Google puts gay rights front-and-center with Olympic homepage doodle

As the eyes of the world gaze upon Sochi today for the opening of the 2014 Winter Olympics, the minds of many will be focused not upon the magnificent sporting achievements soon to be celebrated by Olympians from across the globe, but on the many controversies that have tarnished the Games before they have even commenced.

From allegations of corruption and embezzlement, to appalling conditions in official accommodations – including an absence of clean running water – media outlets and social networks have been overflowing with stories that portray Sochi 2014 in a less than flattering light.

But perhaps the greatest controversy is one that is much larger than the Games themselves – and one against which Google has today taken a very public stand with the ‘doodle’ on its homepage.

Today’s Google Doodle - which, notably, also features on the Google Russia homepage - showcases a selection of Olympic events, against a colourful backdrop that closely mirrors the rainbow flag, an international symbol of gay pride. Below this, Google included an excerpt from the Olympic Charter: 

The practice of sport is a human right. Every individual must have the possibility of practicing sport, without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play.”

Legislation introduced in Russia last year by President Vladimir Putin is, according to its proponents, intended to prevent the dissemination of homosexual “propaganda”, with the intention of protecting minors. But opponents of the laws claim that, in practice, they go much further, effectively subjugating all lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people and preventing them from any form of self-expression in public that does not conform with the state’s view of what is acceptable.

Many across the international community - individuals and organisations alike - have condemned Russia's anti-LGBT laws in recent months, adding to the controversy that has dogged the Sochi 2014 Games. Earlier this week, AT&T - partner of the US Olympic and Paralympic Team, and sponsor of the US Olympic Committee - spoke out against the legislation, calling it "harmful to LGBT individuals and families, and...harmful to a diverse society."

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Whatever happend to seperation of Church and State? Marriage is religious by nature. So if someone gay wants to get married let their religion marry them. Get the government out of marriage and we wouldn't have all these problems.

I suppose you're all for getting rid of marriage based incentives from the government then. Also, I think you assume that everyone gets married in a church or temple.

One thing I miss about growing up (late 70's and 80's) is this kind of stuff was much fewer and far between, and it was definitely a strange thing. Man...how times have changed.

Nigeria, Uganda, Saudi Arabia, Jamaica, Kenya, Zimbabwe, probably all of Africa and the Middle East & religious fruit cakes seems to have a problem with one human being of the same sex being attracted to another human being of the same sex.

I could not care less, my best friend is a Lesbian, I don't find males attractive, some males do.

About 40% of all adult humans are attracted to the same sex, but, only 8% actually do
something about it.

I wonder if these morons that preach hate and tell the world that homosexuality is evil are in
fact doing it to cover up their own latent homosexuality.

Saying: 'He whom shouts the loudest, has the most to hide'.

leesmithg said,

About 40% of all adult humans are attracted to the same sex, but, only 8% actually do
something about it.

I wish that it was true (I think that the world is overpopulated) but not, it is BS!

leesmithg said,

I wonder if these morons that preach hate and tell the world that homosexuality is evil are in
fact doing it to cover up their own latent homosexuality.

Saying: 'He whom shouts the loudest, has the most to hide'.

It is another BS without any basement. I don't like the nazi... oh wait, so then i am a nazi in disguise, shocking shocking!.

I think his point was that we all lie on a spectrum of sexuality. Being attracted to someone of the same sex doesn't exclude being attracted to someone of the opposite sex.

Brony said,

It is another BS without any basement. I don't like the nazi... oh wait, so then i am a nazi in disguise, shocking shocking!.
You don't seem to understand what that statement means.

Being color-blind, I tend to ignore color-coding and stuff like that. A LGBT protest is the last thing I would have thought of from that doodle, simply because my brain tends to ignore the idea that color=information. I was more focused on trying to figure out what each of the figures were doing . . .

ExplodingKnees said,
I'd have preferred Google to focus on the sports rather than politics.

IMHO, what google is doing is simply a clickbait for people that:
a) are pro of the movement.
b) are against this movement.
c) or people, like me, that want to watch the spectacle. :-)

The level of homophobia in the tech community is really sobering. And it comes out every time an article like this is written.

The level of homophobia in the tech community is really sobering. And it comes out every time an article like this is written.

Why would you expect it to be different than the world in general? We're just a cross section of folks that happen to be interested in tech (so the level of homophobia in the world in general is astounding).

jay_max said,
The level of homophobia in the tech community is really sobering. And it comes out every time an article like this is written.

Everybody (minus a small group of people) hate show-off people. So, may be we aren't giving a crap about this movement (and several other) not because his content but how it is exposed, or more specifically,how it is over exposed.

jay_max said,
The level of homophobia in the tech community is really sobering. And it comes out every time an article like this is written.
And the willingness to push it under the rug to save face for mother Russia.

And what about being born in such a country? You're born gay and than some ridiculous people say you can't hold hands in public without any good reason. Believing in some non-existent god person is totally normal though!

Jundor said,
. Believing in some non-existent god person is totally normal though!

Come on Jundor, show us your true color.

Why are people being so extra about this gay rights thing. They ask to be equal yet, when something doesnt go their way suddenly its wrong. You are going to their country you follow their law. And people who say get on with the times, just cause we dont live in the past doesnt mean homosexuals are okay.

Soldiers33 said,
They ask to be equal yet, when something doesnt go their way suddenly its wrong. You are going to their country you follow their law. And people who say get on with the times, just cause we dont live in the past doesnt mean homosexuals are okay.
Do you not understand what the word "equal" means?

Brony said,
"Same rights" IS NOT THE SAME than "equality".
What does that comment even mean? Applied to many things those phrases are the dictionary definition of identical. Care to elaborate?

This whole thing is blown out of proportion. It's not illegal to be gay in Russia (in fact there are many that do choose to live that lifestyle there). However, it's the propaganda that's illegal (i.e. trying to 'convert' people to it, abusing in washrooms, public display of affection, etc.). That's not unnormal for many countries. I'm sorry but there's no such thing as 'gay rights' because gay people (just like every other human in the world, with exception to women in some countries) have equal rights, often they are just attention getters and news grabbers, when there's so much more important things in the world like people dying of famine. If you don't like Russia's stance, then simply don't go to that country... you have to respect the country's culture as well. I hate when I see tourists in countries and they disrespect the local culture. Do that in your own country, but not at someone else's home. Just be peaceful, have the true Olympic spirit and enjoy the games!

j2006 said,
...public display of affection, etc....
When did displaying affection towards your partner become propaganda?

j2006 said,
because gay people (just like every other human in the world, with exception to women in some countries) have equal rights
Do you know what 'equal' means?

j2006 said,
If you don't like Russia's stance, then simply don't go to that country... you have to respect the country's culture as well.
To an extent. Are you advocating that apartheid in South Africa was beyond criticism?

j2006 said,
This whole thing is blown out of proportion. It's not illegal to be gay in

It wasn't illegal to be black during Jim Crow;
j2006 said,
i.e. trying to 'convert' people ... public display of affection

WTF ?

j2006 said,
I'm sorry but there's no such thing as 'gay rights' because gay people (just like every other human in the world, with exception to women in some countries) have equal rights

Except they cant get married to the person they love or hold hands in public.

j2006 said,
If you don't like Russia's stance, then simply don't go to that country...

No thanks! Any human rights abuses should be criticized.

@j2006. The fact that you used the phrase "choose to live that lifestyle" immediately discredits everything you say.

jay_max said,
@j2006. The fact that you used the phrase "choose to live that lifestyle" immediately discredits everything you say.

So then, "forced to live that lifestyle" is correct, or not?

Pick your poison, pick any but pick one.

Brony said,

So then, "forced to live that lifestyle" is correct, or not?

Pick your poison, pick any but pick one.

How about born that way/immutable characteristic? Is it really that hard of a concept?

Jazirian said,
When did displaying affection towards your partner become propaganda?
As far as I have read the law is directed against propaganda specifically aimed at minors. PDA between same-sex couples isn't counted as propaganda unless you've read something else? (In which case I'd like to see a link, and that too from someone who has actually read and understood the law, not some idiot facts-be-damned news anchor/writer looking for a sensational story.)

Edited by Romero, Feb 7 2014, 5:33pm :

I have a feeling that if any other company did this, it would be hailed as the greatest thing ever.

And really all the comments in this thread...people need to grow up.

I wonder if Google will say anything once the World Cup takes place in Qatar.

And I also wonder if Obama will say anything about Saudi Arabia's anti-gay laws once he goes there this year.

Or is it OK for Arabs to be anti-gay, because they have oil (and other things...).

In the end, I understand why the West is all up in arms other this. After all, the West has always been pro-homosexual, since the beginning of time. Look in to the record books of the West, you won't find not a single anti-homosexual law. Not a one!

Whoa! Hold the hell up there!

I think you'll find it was illegal to be homosexual in Britain up until a fee decades ago.

Look up Alan Turing, the father of computing, and see how well that turned out for him?

Pro homosexual since the beginning of time my ass...

Sarcasm, my friend :-)

I guess I should have added a "/s," with regards to the West and anti-homosexual laws condemnation of Russia.

A340600, kinda sound like you're saying you can't take a stand on an issue because of "history". As far as I recall, most people alive today did not implement the laws against homosexuality - but because their country once did, they can't take issue with it now?

I'm sure that's not what you're implying.

Kirkburn said,
A340600, kinda sound like you're saying you can't take a stand on an issue because of "history". As far as I recall, most people alive today did not implement the laws against homosexuality - but because their country once did, they can't take issue with it now?

I'm sure that's not what you're implying.

I still beat my wife, deny her the vote, keep a small african child to pick my fields and send my kid into the mines for coal. AND I'LL BE DAMNED IF I'LL LET ANYONE TAKE THAT FROM ME #proudtobebritish #lolsjkbants #proudtobegay

Kirkburn, let's not forget the US as a whole is far from being included in the "once did" category, since such laws are very much in force in many states to this day, and moreover actively enforced too. I think what A340600 is trying to point out is the hypocrisy here, with the US protesting against a single country but having no qualms cozying up to others that have even worse laws. And speaking about this Russian law, a look at the PDF Atlantico shared above might provide you some clarity about what it truly proposes as opposed to what the American mainstream media is trying to propagate.

That was a lengthy but interesting read and I thank you for sharing it. I see lots of outraged keyboard warriors here who unfortunately don't and wouldn't say a word or raise a finger when it comes to atrocities perpetrated against the community in their own countries. It is far easier to condemn others and pretend/believe one is morally superior, is it not?

Romero said,
That was a lengthy but interesting read and I thank you for sharing it. I see lots of outraged keyboard warriors here who unfortunately don't and wouldn't say a word or raise a finger when it comes to atrocities perpetrated against the community in their own countries. It is far easier to condemn others and pretend/believe one is morally superior, is it not?

Yeah I mean its not like 2013 was the biggest year in the history of gay equality and 2014 is already off to a massive start with Scotland.

No clearly this is just picking on poor old mother Russia. Waah leave Russia alone, Leave her aloneee...

TPreston said,
Yeah I mean its not like 2013 was the biggest year in the history of gay equality and 2014 is already off to a massive start with Scotland.

No clearly this is just picking on poor old mother Russia. Waah leave Russia alone, Leave her aloneee...

So just because important advances have been made in other parts of the world gives American media the right to misinterpret and sensationalize the issue when it comes to Russia? Did you read the PDF linked to above? If you disagree with its interpretation of the law and how US mainstream media reacted to it, then I request you to provide links to opposing analyses by other (in your opinion) reliable people.

Romero said,
So just because important advances have been made in other parts of the world gives American media the right to misinterpret and sensationalize the issue when it comes to Russia? Did you read the PDF linked to above? If you disagree with its interpretation of the law and how US mainstream media reacted to it, then I request you to provide links to opposing analyses by other (in your opinion) reliable people.

You want me to police the press now ? Americans have as much right to criticise this Russian law as Russians have to protest the war in Afghanistan

TPreston said,
You want me to police the press now ? Americans have as much right to criticise this Russian law as Russians have to protest the war in Afghanistan
Who's asking you to police the press? And don't try to side-track the issue by bringing in Afghanistan. What's wrong has to be protested, no matter where. If this law is wrong, protesting against it is absolutely valid. All I'm saying is, from the source above it doesn't seem at all like the actual law is anywhere close to what the American media has been painting it to be. If you claim otherwise, again I ask you to provide trustworthy sources. I have no rigid stance either way and am still trying to make up my mind about it, instead of parroting some idiot's words which is what most others seem to be doing (I hate mob mentality). So if you can convince me this law as actually intended (and not as some fame-hungry moron misinterpreted it) is worth protesting, I'll gladly join you.

Im not protesting what the "American media" call this law, I don't need to I have the source and I know where it came from (America through years of work by the worst of the worst like Scott Lively).

TPreston said,
Im not protesting what the "American media" call this law
Well then what's the issue here? All I'm saying is that it seems this particular law has been wildly misinterpreted by the American media to be something other than what it really is, and so many people seem to be using the opportunity to gleefully jump in, point fingers and take the moral high ground as if their own country is perfect in this regard. I wasn't making a general comment on the current state of gay rights in Russia, or in the US for that matter. However, clearly hateful ****s like Scott Lively and many anti-gay state laws show how lots of Americans view this issue. All countries should look inwards first and fix themselves before pointing fingers at others for doing the same thing.

Romero said,
Well then what's the issue here? All I'm saying is that it seems this particular law has been wildly misinterpreted by the American media to be something other than what it really is, and so many people seem to be using the opportunity to gleefully jump in, point fingers and take the moral high ground as if their own country is perfect in this regard. I wasn't making a general comment on the current state of gay rights in Russia, or in the US for that matter. However, clearly hateful ****s like Scott Lively and many anti-gay state laws show how lots of Americans view this issue. All countries should look inwards first and fix themselves before pointing fingers at others for doing the same thing.
And then ill respond with my

Russians cant criticise the war in Afghanistan because they "should look inwards first and fix themselves before pointing fingers at others for doing the same thing."
Brits cant criticise any war because they "should look inwards first and fix themselves before pointing fingers at others for doing the same thing."
etc etc etc

Double standards.

TPreston said,
Russians cant criticise the war in Afghanistan because they "should look inwards first and fix themselves before pointing fingers at others for doing the same thing."
...
Double standards.
Just how can it be "double standards" when I never made the claim that Russia was free to be a hypocrite either? When I said don't point fingers before getting your own house in order I meant it as applying to "all countries" (quoting myself), not some specific country. Do not try to put words in my mouth, and if you want to repeat your BS claims against me then prove where I gave Russia or anyone else a free pass.

It's gone from gay pride, to pride now, to include everyone what ever they consider is their status in life, my Suzie visits pride in Brighton every year, even when it was called gay pride she attended.
I thought when I saw it was retro 1970's

Not pride.

Google should leave international sexual politics to those who are the only ones globally-empowered to adjudicate - BBC Breakfast & Radio4 presenters.

Andy, I'm not sure this topic should be placed on the front page. This is more of a community topic. Religion, tech, and sexual preference don't mix well.

I've completely lost sympathy with gay rights douchebags trying to co-opt the Olympics to further their agenda. It is not illegal to be gay in Russia.

Atlantico said,
I've completely lost sympathy with gay rights douchebags trying to co-opt the Olympics to further their agenda. It is not illegal to be gay in Russia.
It wasn't illegal to be black during Jim Crow;

TPreston said,
It wasn't illegal to be black during Jim Crow;

Setting aside that nonsense analogy, we have established that it is not illegal to be gay in Russia.

So what is your problem then?

Atlantico said,

Setting aside that nonsense analogy, we have established that it is not illegal to be gay in Russia.

So what is your problem then?

And that's what we call an appeal to ridicule, How about the lack of equal rights ?

Because the world is more complicated than simply fun events. And because all that all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Ignoring problems because you want to enjoy an event is the pinnacle of doing nothing.

Agree. However, that doodle really does nothing to help the cause. As a matter of fact, most people who search with Google will just see a colorful doodle with athletes. There are other ways to fight this evil you speak of. Let me just enjoy the games without the BS. Matt, I totally understand your post.

JHBrown said,
Why can't we just enjoy the events? Why must everything be scrutinized and political?

One of the main things about the Olympics is diversity in people. It's perfectly acceptable for people to be against the Russian Olympics.

Then look at all the corruption and 50 billion spent on the Russian games, that has somehow gone to Putins friends. And the Russian reporters attacked and arrested for writing about this stuff. Who the **** would want to support this and watch the games? What is wrong with you.

JHBrown said,
Why can't we just enjoy the events? Why must everything be scrutinized and political?

Because these games are against the Olympic charter, as conveniently linked to by Google above.

JHBrown said,
As a matter of fact, most people who search with Google will just see a colorful doodle with athletes.

It's not there for most people. It's there to show solidarity with the LGBT community.

I agree with President Vladimir Putin 100%. When on Google this morning, I didn't even think about LGBT (gross - why would I?). Glad Microsoft hasn't shown any support - they're a tech company for goodness sakes. Focus on technology, not social issues. There's a reason for me to buy a Windows Phone over and Android or Apple device. LGBT is sin. I strongly believe in the uniting of man to woman only, and NO ONE will change that. Now, let's try Bing for once...

68k said,
I agree with President Vladimir Putin 100%. When on Google this morning, I didn't even think about LGBT (gross - why would I?). Glad Microsoft hasn't shown any support - they're a tech company for goodness sakes. Focus on technology, not social issues. There's a reason for me to buy a Windows Phone over and Android or Apple device. LGBT is sin. I strongly believe in the uniting of man to woman only, and NO ONE will change that. Now, let's try Bing for once...

Take that crap back to the 19th century where it belongs.

I hope that comment is meant to be the most sarcastic ever if not that is definitely the most ignorant post I have read on neowin in the last 8 years.

Actually 68k makes some valid points. He was just very blunt about it. I hope everyone understands that we are a world made up of many different religions, morals and values. 68k has a right to feel the way he feels. Gays and Lesbians have a right to feel the way they feel. I believe this topic is touchy and should really not be a headline on a tech site.

Shane Ekanayake said,
[bigot detected]
No, he is just a human who has own personal values and beliefs. Just because someone doesn't agree with something you might agree with, doesn't make them a bigot. It just makes them different. We all are different.

JHBrown said,
Actually 68k makes some valid points. He was just very blunt about it. I hope everyone understands that we are a world made up of many different religions, morals and values. 68k has a right to feel the way he feels. Gays and Lesbians have a right to feel the way they feel. I believe this topic is touchy and should really not be a headline on a tech site.

no, JHBrown, he does not make valid points. Hiding behind the excuse of cultural/religious reasons is still hiding behind something.
it doesn't matter where they come from, if a view is backwards, bigotted, and belongs in an era 409 years ago, it deserves as much ridicule as it can get, not respect

We don't condone flat earth teaching in science do we (well, maybe in some bible belt US states that haven't got the message via horse and cart the world is round and we evolved from apes!)

siah1214 said,

Take that crap back to the 19th century where it belongs.
Wrong attitude my friend. He can feel the way he feels as long as he doesn't hurt anyone. Diversity, it's what will be around long after we are dead.

ZipZapRap said,

no, JHBrown, he does not make valid points. Hiding behind the excuse of cultural/religious reasons is still hiding behind something.
it doesn't matter where they come from, if a view is backwards, bigotted, and belongs in an era 409 years ago, it deserves as much ridicule as it can get, not respect

We don't condone flat earth teaching in science do we (well, maybe in some bible belt US states that haven't got the message via horse and cart the world is round and we evolved from apes!)

Who are we to say his views are bigoted or backwards? Gays and lesbians expect to be heard, so can this man. It's best just to accept that we are all different and that will never change no matter how many doodles Google puts up.

JHBrown said,
Who are we to say his views are bigoted or backwards? Gays and lesbians expect to be heard, so can this man. It's best just to accept that we are all different and that will never change no matter how many doodles Google puts up.

You are confusing critisim with censorship deliberately because your position is untenable.

TPreston said,

You are confusing critisim with censorship deliberately because your position is untenable.
Wrong. You have no idea what my position is. I have not stated my position. You cannot attack another human being for believing in what they believe.(68k)

JHBrown said,
Who are we to say his views are bigoted or backwards? Gays and lesbians expect to be heard, so can this man. It's best just to accept that we are all different and that will never change no matter how many doodles Google puts up.
Sexual orientation isn't a value or a belief, it's an attribute of a human being. People aren't born with a religion, and people use it as a tool to push their bigoted values; and his views most certainly are bigoted.
edit: I'm not referring to all people with a religion, just those who choose to use it this way.

68k said,
I agree with President Vladimir Putin 100%. When on Google this morning, I didn't even think about LGBT (gross - why would I?). Glad Microsoft hasn't shown any support - they're a tech company for goodness sakes. Focus on technology, not social issues. There's a reason for me to buy a Windows Phone over and Android or Apple device. LGBT is sin. I strongly believe in the uniting of man to woman only, and NO ONE will change that. Now, let's try Bing for once...

http://i.imgur.com/I6GSf.gif

Points taken fellas! I will respectfully bow out of this conversation. Not really a topic I normally get involved with. Let's just be kind to one another and remember that we can not change people.

To be honest, you have a fair point. People should respect one another's views. Just because being gay is a personal human attribute doesn't mean I shouldn't listen to other people's opinions. It's their human right to have an opinion just as much as it is for me to live a peaceful life.

That's not me giving a free for all for anyone to spew hatred comments/thoughts, I just think it's important we don't forget everyone has opinions. I'm also glad that companies, whether they be media broadcaster (Channel 4 the other night) or internet organisations are taking an interest in the rights of human beings.

Your beliefs aren't protected from criticism. 50 years ago we believed a black person shouldn't date/marry a white person, but we pulled our heads out of our asses and realized that made no sense. We'll realize this with homosexuality soon enough.

Can critize him all you want guys and take the moral high ground.
But as long as western countries like the US of A don't have homo-lesbian rights and are also still living in medieval times..... Who are Americans to complain about Russia?......

Unless your country accepts homos and lesbians to be PEOPLE like the rest of us.... shut up.

JHBrown said,
Wrong. You have no idea what my position is. I have not stated my position. You cannot attack another human being for believing in what they believe.(68k)

Im NOT attacking him nor is anyone else You are now deliberately confusing attack with criticize. People are critised for their stupid belifs all the time, Thats the price you pay for posting them online.

siah1214 said,
Your beliefs aren't protected from criticism. 50 years ago we believed a black person shouldn't date/marry a white person, but we pulled our heads out of our asses and realized that made no sense. We'll realize this with homosexuality soon enough.

qft

JHBrown said,
You cannot attack another human being for believing in what they believe.(68k)

Really? Then i believe in raping new born babies /s

Thats exactly the same kind of disgusting thing as saying what 68k did. Are you also fine with that? And publicly posting that view? No one should be attacked for believing that right?

JHBrown said,
No, he is just a human who has own personal values and beliefs. Just because someone doesn't agree with something you might agree with, doesn't make them a bigot. It just makes them different. We all are different.

This isn't a case of labeling someone a bigot just because someone doesn't agree with what they've said. This is labeling someone a bigot because they are a bigot. You know, looks like a duck, walks like a duck.

JHBrown said,
No, he is just a human who has own personal values and beliefs. Just because someone doesn't agree with something you might agree with, doesn't make them a bigot. It just makes them different. We all are different.

Still I prefer Voltaire approach...

68k said,
I agree with President Vladimir Putin 100%. When on Google this morning, I didn't even think about LGBT (gross - why would I?). Glad Microsoft hasn't shown any support - they're a tech company for goodness sakes. Focus on technology, not social issues. There's a reason for me to buy a Windows Phone over and Android or Apple device. LGBT is sin. I strongly believe in the uniting of man to woman only, and NO ONE will change that. Now, let's try Bing for once...

Uh.

These guys helped work on your beloved Windows Phone:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-u...y/programs/ergen/gleam.aspx

I hope you also enjoy news like this:
http://www.theatlantic.com/tec...in-washington-state/251680/

Or ads like these from your favorite company:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...look-gay-ad-_n_2867545.html

Have a nice day...

benthebear said,

This isn't a case of labeling someone a bigot just because someone doesn't agree with what they've said. This is labeling someone a bigot because they are a bigot. You know, looks like a duck, walks like a duck.

Oh don't bother next he will say you cant criticize this because we could all be brains in a vat, Anything to defend the indefensible.

@Shadowzz. I don't think you can paint the USA in such a broad brush...we're more akin to the entire EU rather than individual member states. Example, I live in Washington (home of Microsoft), and we GLBT have full rights, including marriage. Other states (a diminishing number), are like Italy or other EU countries that don't have full protections. So telling the USA to get its act together nationally invites criticism that the EU as a whole needs to do the same.

And the whole EU does need to, okay with EU I usually mean north-west Europe. But I am aware the eastern part is quite set-back when it comes to accepting people of different 'flavors'. But they only had 10 years of freedom, it's getting hell of a lot better at a good fast pace. In the USA I don't really see this improvement though, few states do it but to me it feels like charity "Look we accept gay marriage, look at us being modern and cool". While from personal experience, the Americans I know are generally more anti-homo (or homofoob) than the eastern Europeans I know.

And here and everywhere what I see is often Americans talking against Russia's gay-issues with a high level of moral supremacy, while the USA has those problems too. Fix your own before pointing fingers.

Shadowzz said,
And here and everywhere what I see is often Americans talking against Russia's gay-issues with a high level of moral supremacy, while the USA has those problems too. Fix your own before pointing fingers.

And when I read this my palm smashes into my face, Do you not understand by this bonkers logic that Russians have to shut up and let America go on a middle ease rampage because Russia dun done it before ?

Two wrongs DONT make a right. This is a kindergarten discussion

JHBrown said,
Wrong attitude my friend. He can feel the way he feels as long as he doesn't hurt anyone. Diversity, it's what will be around long after we are dead.

You think his position doesn't hurt anyone? Kids are killing themselves because of people with this exact positon. I don't remember the last time I heard of someone committing suicide because they felt thier religion was being personally attacked.

Shane Ekanayake said,
[bigot detected]

I think most "bigot" related posts are also bigoted.


This isn't a case of labeling someone a bigot just because someone doesn't agree with what they've said. This is labeling someone a bigot because they are a bigot. You know, looks like a duck, walks like a duck.

Bigoted - having or revealing an obstinate belief in the superiority of one's own opinions and a prejudiced intolerance of the opinions of others.

I feel like people throw this word around as an insult and demeaning to a person, then go off and fall right into it themselves...

Looks more like some sports against coloured backgrounds. most of which can be found in the Olympic rings themselves. In fact the most prominent colour in the gay pride flag is the purple/pink. A colour that's not represented in the Google doodle.

Reading to much in to it.

There is no pink in the rainbow flag - it's purple, and it is no more or less prominent than the other colours in the flag.

The colours of the Olympic rings are, in order: blue, black, red, yellow and green.

The colours of the rainbow flag are, in order: red, orange, yellow, green, blue and purple. Note that this is the same combination and order of colours used in Google's doodle.

Seems to me that Google's doodle has everything in common with the rainbow flag and very little in common with the Olympic rings. And I'm not sure what colours you're seeing, but the last colour in the Google doodle - the one backing the 'E' - is purple.

gcaw said,

The colours of the rainbow flag are, in order: red, orange, yellow, green, blue and purple. Note that this is the same combination and order of colours used in Google's doodle.

i never noticed before, but a real rainbow isn't those colors, it's red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet. ala the ROY G BIV way to remember it...

so it's not a true rainbow colored flag

Atlantico said,
http://www.sochi2014.com/en

yeah you can find all those colors right there on the Sochi website. Representing each sport.


The hues aren't all in the Google logo (there's no yellow, Google's logo only has one hue of green, Google's logo lack magenta, etc), and the sports on that site don't match the sports backing the colors on the Google logo either.

Meanwhile, Google's logo is an identical match in hues and sequence as the LGBT flag along with a quote of the Olympic charter which is condemning discrimination and a lack of understanding.

In the end, this isn't rocket science and Google has previously been outspoken about these matters. Tech companies are often quite progressive when it comes to these things, thankfully.

Microsoft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...bian_Employees_at_Microsoft
Google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayglers
Apple: http://www.macrumors.com/2008/...8-ban-on-same-sex-marriage/

The pride flag has always been missing one of the blues (not sure it's blue or indigo). I'm assuming it was intentional.

a diverse society

a diverse society is not always good, less diversed like japan shows the world that they can be great too.

Are you saying that Japan has no gay people ? because I'm sure they do or are you saying they don't have any black people ? because I'm sure they do or are you saying they don't have any Jews because again I'm sure they do or maybe your just saying all Japanese people look the same.

Whatever you're trying to say you sound like a stupid bigot.

Torolol said,

a diverse society is not always good, less diversed like japan shows the world that they can be great too.

I've read your comment several times, but I still do not understand what you're trying to say.

I think the point was that Japan is a very ethnically-homogenous country, and is a top-ranked country. I've no idea why that makes being diverse "not always good" though.

Well played Google. I've decided not to watch any Sochi telecasts because of Russia's stance against our LGBT friends.

I hope you have the same attitudes towards the USA, because what makes you think they're ANY better?

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/HS/2/H/163/163.002

"Instruction relating to sexual education or sexually transmitted diseases should include . . . emphasis, provided in a factual manner and from a public health perspective, that homosexuality is not a lifestyle acceptable to the general public and that homosexual conduct is a criminal offense.”

And Texas isn't the only state with garbage like that on its statute books.

One who lives in glass houses, should not throw stones.

FloatingFatMan said,
I hope you have the same attitudes towards the USA, because what makes you think they're ANY better?

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/HS/2/H/163/163.002

"Instruction relating to sexual education or sexually transmitted diseases should include . . . emphasis, provided in a factual manner and from a public health perspective, that homosexuality is not a lifestyle acceptable to the general public and that homosexual conduct is a criminal offense.”

And Texas isn't the only state with garbage like that on its statute books.

One who lives in glass houses, should not throw stones.

QFTW.
In fact homosexuality was only legalised in the UK in the late 60's. I'm not saying Russia's stance is the correct one, however there's a lot of people taking a holier than thou attitude without any of the knowledge.

FloatingFatMan said,
I hope you have the same attitudes towards the USA, because what makes you think they're ANY better?.

what are you talking about? Where did I imply anything about the US or what is "better"?

I've taken a stance against these games and will condemn LGBT discrimination wherever it exists in the world

FloatingFatMan said,
Then I presume you don't watch any Aamerican TV either, then?

Not the same analogy. One is a boycott of a specific event because of laws passed for the entire country.. The other is the premise of boycotting an entire country's TV output because of laws in one state?

MikeChipshop said,

QFTW.
In fact homosexuality was only legalised in the UK in the late 60's. I'm not saying Russia's stance is the correct one, however there's a lot of people taking a holier than thou attitude without any of the knowledge.

I think people are taking offence to the fact that they have stated gay will be arrested for being gay. And it will be enforced.

ZipZapRap said,

Not the same analogy. One is a boycott of a specific event because of laws passed for the entire country.. The other is the premise of boycotting an entire country's TV output because of laws in one state?

It's not "just" one state. As I said in my post, there are multiple states with similar laws.

FloatingFatMan said,

It's not "just" one state. As I said in my post, there are multiple states with similar laws.

Also Russians don't protest the war in Afghanistan, Because Russia is guilty of invading there too.

This is so so stupid.

ExplodingKnees said,

Only parts of the UK.

Sorry. To clarify, i meant it started to be challenged in 1966. It by no means suddenly vanished in 1966.

While i despise this new law by Putin team i think we should look at ourselves in the mirror before throwing any rock. There's still places in developed countries where sams-sex marriage is not allowed.

MikeChipshop said,

QFTW.
In fact homosexuality was only legalised in the UK in the late 60's. I'm not saying Russia's stance is the correct one, however there's a lot of people taking a holier than thou attitude without any of the knowledge.


Stop living in the past. Times change... so 50 years ago the laws were different? well 70 years ago Germany was killing jews and LGBT... pretty certain we dont really hold that against the germans too much these days

Yea that's right... I brought up the nazis... As stated in interweb law... debate is officially over

FloatingFatMan said,
^ Exactly, this is just media making up a story to whip up resentment towards Russia, nothing else.

Are you actually insane?

There is only one group of people the doodle is aimed at and so it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks it means. It's a message of solidarity aimed at the LGBT community. And it's the only message to be interpreted here.

AdmiralRooster said,

Stop living in the past. Times change...

The problem is with LGBT rights it's not only the past. LGBT are still not 100% accepted (specially the T part) in many countries other than russia. It doesn't mean russia is right to hate and pass laws by any means. It just makes use a little bit hypocrite about our desire to boycott the game while at the same time we deal economically with countries far worse than russia. We in north america tend to look away when there's money to be made. It's the sad and plain truth.

I think we should got off our high horses and enjoy the games. Lot of athletes trained hard the last 4 years for this moment. We can deal with other subject matters after the game.

Keep the insults to yourself, Rooster. No I'm not insane, do you understand what this whole thing is about?

Google are coming out in solidarity with the LGBT community. That's absolutely great and all, but it's being done as a jibe against Russia's recently rule that bans the promotion of homosexuality to children. The media are taking this rather simple law (a law with many US states have a similar equivalent too), and making out that it's illegal to be gay in Russia and all other sorts of nonsense. This is a lie.

FloatingFatMan said,
Keep the insults to yourself, Rooster. No I'm not insane, do you understand what this whole thing is about?

Google are coming out in solidarity with the LGBT community. That's absolutely great and all, but it's being done as a jibe against Russia's recently rule that bans the promotion of homosexuality to children. The media are taking this rather simple law (a law with many US states have a similar equivalent too), and making out that it's illegal to be gay in Russia and all other sorts of nonsense. This is a lie.

Which is a gag order for anyone even trying to advocate for equal rights. You cant promote homosexuality its just to shut down discussion.

Two wrongs don't make a right, Most of learned that at play school.

TPreston said,

Which is a gag order for anyone even trying to advocate for equal rights. You cant promote homosexuality its just to shut down discussion.

Two wrongs don't make a right, Most of learned that at play school.

Wrong. You can promote homosexuality. You just can't promote it to children. If you object to that, then I hope you object to the US states that do it, also.

FloatingFatMan said,

Wrong. You can promote homosexuality.


No you cant, I watch sal and Richard acting gay all the time its hilarious comedy, It doesn't make me want to screw them.

FloatingFatMan said,
You just can't promote it to children. If you object to that, then I hope you object to the US states that do it, also.

Yes I certainly do, Speaking of which you shouldn't criticize America for its wars, We all know the UK has a bloody history. Oh and Russians too because of their middle eastern adventure.

Gotta love this wacky apologist4evil logic lol.

It's probably because we have a ton of laws that do not align with the attitudes today, with each state differing from one to the next. Hell, Texas has been due for a rewrite of our state constitution for some time now, but has never seemed to get it finalized and out the door. Government is full of red tape like this.

Meanwhile, our city mayor is openly gay with a partner and all, and no one really seems to make a big deal about it. Yes, I know there is still plenty to be done regarding rights and all that, but we're moving in the right direction for the most part; time is just not on our side unfortunately.

This is not to excuse it, but maybe reason as to why some of us don't sit here with buckets of anger.

However, I'm not sure why you're criticizing him for being upset with Russia.

It reminds me of when someone does something nice for another human being, but someone comes in to say, "Oh, that's cool, you helped someone pay their rent, but did you think about the people who are already homeless or the kids starving in Africa?!!"

AdmiralRooster said,

Stop living in the past. Times change... so 50 years ago the laws were different? well 70 years ago Germany was killing jews and LGBT... pretty certain we dont really hold that against the germans too much these days

Yea that's right... I brought up the nazis... As stated in interweb law... debate is officially over

Except we are still making policy changes, in fact a large major one was passed in 2010. So you're pretty wrong that i'm living in the past as that was a whopping 4 years ago
Nice try though.

dead.cell said,
However, I'm not sure why you're criticizing him for being upset with Russia.

There's a difference between being upset and boycotting. Boycotting serves no purpose. It never had and never will. It doesn't work. Russia is retrograde. I think we can mostly all agree on that. But it's not like the iron curtain felt 50 years ago. It's a country that has been destroyed by many years of wars, cold war and communism. Maybe we should give them some time to turn around ? Maybe ? We often forget it took us many years to evolve to what we are today and we still have a lot of work to do. I'm sorry to say we did not do that in 25 years not even close to it.

It's okay to tell Rusia we are upset about the law and other things. But boycotting the games will do nothing to help good people living in Russia. It will only do the opposite. The best thing we can do is to open a discussion about it, even if the discussion is one way, and hope they will change their mind about it one day. It's not like they are killing homosexual people on sight. We should let them handle their own changes and fight their own battles.

We collaborate with far worse countries than russia for not really the good reason.

Hello,

I saw that Doodle and the LAST thing I thought it was about is about gay rights.

Google hasnt technically mentioned anything about being related to LGBT.

I dont know; I think its just media outlets twisting the story and Google getting praise when it wasnt its intentions.

riahc3 said,
Hello,

I saw that Doodle and the LAST thing I thought it was about is about gay rights.

Google hasnt technically mentioned anything about being related to LGBT.

I dont know; I think its just media outlets twisting the story and Google getting praise when it wasnt its intentions.

I actually didn't "get" it either when I first seen it, but I got the feeling there was some kind of point behind the message that I had just missed. As soon as I read the news articles about it, claiming that it was a pro-gay message, I felt like hitting myself for not realising sooner. It's so obvious now.

The colours they use are rainbow colours, not those from the Olympic logo or anything and the message about non-discrimination completes the picture without directly stating it.

However, I think that's exactly the point. Google wants to make a protest, but they can't use homosexual "propaganda" legally in Russia - so it has to be somewhat subtle. And I think Google has pulled that off spectacularly well.

riahc3 said,
Hello,

I saw that Doodle and the LAST thing I thought it was about is about gay rights.

Google hasnt technically mentioned anything about being related to LGBT.

I dont know; I think its just media outlets twisting the story and Google getting praise when it wasnt its intentions.

The first thing I thought was gay rights. It's a rainbow flag, and the opening of Sochi, which has of course been caught up in Putin's laws against homosexuals.

It's exactly what it is, and the message is lost on anyone who doesn't "get it". It's very good to see a company basically advertise on behalf of everyone who wants equal rights for all humans.

riahc3 said,
Hello,

I saw that Doodle and the LAST thing I thought it was about is about gay rights.

Google hasnt technically mentioned anything about being related to LGBT.

I dont know; I think its just media outlets twisting the story and Google getting praise when it wasnt its intentions.


I guess you missed the quote from the olympic charter then..

I hide in a hole, I had no idea the Olympics were starting today. I also had no idea what the image was on Google. But now I've been educated I applaud Google for doing this; not something I do very often.

Russia's attitude to gays is disgusting, but it is systematic about their attitude towards the world in general. They are living in the dark ages in so many ways; so lets hope the controversy over gay rights helps open their eyes to the rights of gays and people in general.

riahc3 said,
Hello,

I saw that Doodle and the LAST thing I thought it was about is about gay rights.

Google hasnt technically mentioned anything about being related to LGBT.

I dont know; I think its just media outlets twisting the story and Google getting praise when it wasnt its intentions.


No, you're wrong and aren't aware of the LGBT flag. They even quote the Olympic charter to make their discrete protest extra obvious. Also note that they are avoiding a link to the current olympic games or Sochi. Again, it's a protest.

Hello,

riahc3 said,
Hello,

I saw that Doodle and the LAST thing I thought it was about is about gay rights.

Google hasnt technically mentioned anything about being related to LGBT.

I dont know; I think its just media outlets twisting the story and Google getting praise when it wasnt its intentions.


Talk about HEAVY editing....

I just want to say that I did not see the connection because there is nothing about the LGBT movement there. Just when you click on it and the Olympic Charter's meaning comes up and a bunch of stories of Google making a nudge to LGBT movement. Thats it.