Hacker says Windows is more secure than Mac; calls Apple fans "ignorant"

Lifehacker pointed to an interesting piece over at CNet. In a Q and A interview by Elinor Mills, hacker extraordinaire, Marc Maiffret, has said what no one before him dare say--Windows is more secure than Mac OS. While Apple likes to claim a higher security standard than their rival Microsoft, Maiffret, who is now the Chief Security Architect at FireEye, begs to differ.

When asked about the current state of security in Microsoft products, Maiffret responded:

"Now when you look at Microsoft today they do more to secure their software than anyone. They're the model for how to do it. They're not perfect; there's room for improvement. But they are definitely doing more than anybody else in the industry, I would say"

In a follow up question, Maiffret was asked if he feels Apple is taking security seriously. In his response, Maiffret calls out Apple and its "ignorant" community saying:

"It's even a little scarier with them because they try to market themselves as more secure than the PC, that you don't have to worry about viruses, etc. Anytime there's been a hacking contest, within a few hours someone's found a new Apple vulnerability. If they were taking it seriously, they wouldn't claim to be more secure than Microsoft because they are very much not. And the Apple community is pretty ignorant to the risks that are out there as it relates to Apple. The reason we don't see more attacks out there compared to Microsoft is because their market share isn't near what Microsoft's is"

Marc Maiffret began hacking as a teenager. He was a lad of 17 when he started eEye--a company focused on product development and vulnerability research. Since then, Maiffret has become a revered expert in the world of software security.

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Security through obscurity / not a "big" target may make you safe in some cases, it doesn't however make your system "more secure" however.

etempest said,
Security through obscurity / not a "big" target may make you safe in some cases, it doesn't however make your system "more secure" however.

I agree! If I were to make on operating system and be the only person to use it, would that make my operating system the most secure since its never been hacked? Of course not! Just because there aren't enough Mac users to make it worth hackers time doesn't make the OS more secure, but it might make the users safer.

"The reason we don't see more attacks out there compared to Microsoft is because their market share isn't near what Microsoft's is"
Thats what i say to my mac lover pals, exactly the same thing.

Apple has knowingly lulled its users into a false sense of security. Many of their users do in fact have malware on their machines it's just that they have no idea what to look for so they never realize it and therefore never report it.

Apple users are, in effect, just as ignorant as Apple itself.

I've been saying the same thing for years.... The reason Mac is "more secure" is because hackers don't want to bother taking out "hundreds of thousands" of Macs, or maybe "several million" Macs.... THey are looking for numbers in the TENS of millions. It's much more "impressive" and FAR more inconvenient to compromise MILLIONS of PCs than it is to take out a much lower number of Macs.... Windows hacking provides greater bragging rights.

Now, if the trend of Macs gaining marketshare continues, or even multiplies faster than it is currently, hackers will definitely start working the exploits. But until then, whoever is on top will always be the biggest target.

i say do it, why dont they put their money where their mouth is? The mac market is so easy to hack why not just do it, they will get a lot of exposure as being one of the first to hack the platform.

REM2000 said,
i say do it, why dont they put their money where their mouth is? The mac market is so easy to hack why not just do it, they will get a lot of exposure as being one of the first to hack the platform.

They do, all the time.

Did you read the story? They don't release a virus or some sort of Malware that targets Apple products because they don't want to break the law, cause trouble and cost people money.

These are security professionals, not simply h4x0rs who hack whatever has the most market share.

I'm tempted to suggest comment rating (at least a like or dislike button) so the most relevant or most community approved comments can be at the top and the rest can kind of float around.

my experience with apple leads me to say, "it's more relaxed in terms of security because there's a low risk in usage." it's safer of course, but i've tested visiting infected pages and have had "no damage or infection."

windows is in truth, "more secure" because it has to be. visiting that same page lead me to get infected as it even bypassed UAC. so in blunt, it's more secure, but higher risk.

i still favor windows though, it's just that it feels like "home" to me...

I think its high time for someone to make a virus to take advantage of all the apply fan boys bank accounts though. I mean, they obviously have money to pay such high prices for their equipment, might as well take the rest with one good undetectable virus.
Of course, there already are virus and malware against macs, just how many who are infected don't know about it due to the lack of security?

I'll be the first to say it here. (meabe not, I didn't read every single post), but I wish to God someone would write a virus that would really put the hurt on Apple. Just once will someone please show the world the arrogance of Jobs and his followers?

Obviously the misery and cost to innocent users guilty only of ignorance and naivety is well worth getting one over on someone. *rolls eyes*

Not all folks who enjoy using Macs are ignorant nor rich. I live on a fixed income yet I can still buy a Mac. I just save my money until I have enough to buy one. I also practice safe computing through using antivirus software that I keep updated and using Lil Snitch to watch outgoing messages from third party software I try out from time to time. I really think this war between Mac users and Windows users is really silly and a waste of time. We should be working together to combat the real problem which is the creeps out there trying to victimize society.

Mac777 said,
I live on a fixed income yet I can still buy a Mac.
What has a fixed income got to do with it? Do you mean low income?

Apple's main vulerability is the level of complacency in its userbase. Imagine sending off warning letters to the owners of infected machines on your network, only to get replies back saying that "No, you must be wrong about my computer being infected, I own a Mac."

You people that b***h about people's spelling and what the title "suggests" and stuff are totally irritating. This whole thread should be deleted.

To each his own on what OS they want to use.

As I am no computer expert I can only speculate but it makes sense to me that hackers would create undetectable exploits for Apple many corporate people use it for data and corporate information is as much or more valuable than personal.
Not to mention no VS or Firewall present you would hardly notice anything.

Now that alot more people have started using Apple's products, they will have to beef up the security. Hackers prior to this didnt see a point to hacking OSX. Now, they do. lol

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