Here's how Samsung plans to implement the fingerprint sensor in the Galaxy S5

It has been rumored for some time that Samsung will be packing a fingerprint sensor in its upcoming flagship smartphone, the Galaxy S5. Now, a new report has confirmed the rumor and detailed Samsung's implementation of the sensor.

According to a report published by SamMobile based on information from their sources, Samsung will be shipping the Galaxy S5 with a fingerprint sensor embedded in the device's home button similar to the one on Apple's iPhone 5s. In order to use the sensor, a user will have to swipe from the top of the home button to the bottom. The report mentions that the sensor would not function with moist or wet fingers and the user will be presented an error. The interesting aspect of Samsung's implementation is that during the swipe, the S5 will show the fingerprint being scanned on the display in real-time.

It is also revealed that the fingerprint sensor will be used for providing security to the apps of the user's choice in addition to the whole device as Samsung has enabled the functionality throughout the operating system on the Galaxy S5. Up to eight fingerprints can be stored on the Galaxy S5 with one mandatory for unlocking the smartphone. The Galaxy S5 will feature a Personal Folder and Private Mode accessible by entering a PIN, unlock pattern or stored fingerprint.

Apple and HTC have already implemented a fingerprint sensor but it is not a must-have feature for most users yet. It will be interesting to see what else Samsung does with the sensor technology when it launches the Galaxy S5 at the Unpacked event on February 23.

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Considering Samsang's history with 'features' the fingerprint sensor will be janky and not work very well, people won't use it and turn it off. Sliding you finger over the button is not natural and not part of an existing workflow like just pressing the button as you can on the iPhone 5S. Will you be able to do the fingerprint slide while holding the phone in one hand? I imagine you can't. It will be interesting to see how this works IRL.

Adding the feature is blatant copying.

derekaw said,
Considering Samsang's history with 'features' the fingerprint sensor will be janky and not work very well, people won't use it and turn it off. Sliding you finger over the button is not natural and not part of an existing workflow like just pressing the button as you can on the iPhone 5S. Will you be able to do the fingerprint slide while holding the phone in one hand? I imagine you can't. It will be interesting to see how this works IRL.

Adding the feature is blatant copying.

Have you ever even used a smartphone? So let me see. I am holding my Note 3. I am going to pretend it has a fingerprint reader on the home button to see if what you said is true.

As I hold it, I realize I can swipe with my thumb. That is using one hand. How if I hld the phone with my left hand which is how I normally use it, my right hand is totally free which means all 5 fingers can swipe the button.

Its not blatant copying. After all, devices have had biometric sensors for nearly 3 decades. You are aware smartphones even before the Motorola Atrix had them. Right? Were you even born at the time?

Where else can you place such a feature on the phone? The back? That is where Motorola did it and it sucked IMO. I know because I bought the phone from ATT and I returned it. But because of the sensor, it was because its main feature the laptop docking feature, really sucked.

If you look at the Validity Biometric Sensor that HP and Dell now use and then look at the Sensor made by Authentec for the ThinkPad, you will see they work and look the same. The reader is a bar that is mounted to a small PCB. You slide your finger because the windows of the sensor is wide.

Apple had Authentic make the snsor round and its also bigger than the iPhone's orginal home button. It si big enough that you don't have to swipe because you can place the needed part of the finger on the button. The Galaxy home button if you haven't notice is not round...its a rectangle with curved corners. Thus the native sensor design can easily be made to fit and yoi slide you finger. YOU KNOW. THE WAY ITS AWAYS BEEN DONE.

So please explain how thy are blatantly ripping off Apple? After all, Apple was not the first to implement this feature. All they did was have the company make a different way to accomplish the same thing. Apple way isn't any better. It fails for the same reason. Wet or greasy hands dull fingerprints and make them impossible to read, that is why your finger needs to be dry and clean.

I watched people in video unlock the 5S. Just like with my laptop sensor, it doesn't always get a good read on the first try. So Apple's way isn't any better.

So I am trying to understand your point. How come none of you call Apple out for copying when they do it?

When Apple finally brought toggles to iOS, why didn't you say they copied what Cydia and Android had for years? When iOS 7 got the Notification windows, why didn't you say Apple blatantly copied this from Android?

Why didn't you say Apple chose to flatten iOS because Microsoft decided to flatten Windows Phone OS. After all, whose idea was it? Was it Apple's? I mean at least be fair and not bias.

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
So please explain how thy are blatantly ripping off Apple? After all, Apple was not the first to implement this feature. All they did was have the company make a different way to accomplish the same thing. Apple way isn't any better. It fails for the same reason. Wet or greasy hands dull fingerprints and make them impossible to read, that is why your finger needs to be dry and clean.

Apple was the first to implement it on a "home" button. Now Samsung is copying them.

techbeck said,

Who cares

Many people do. Last I heard Samsung lost a massive court case for copying Apple. You would think a company would try to introduce different products in the future...

stevan said,

Many people do. Last I heard Samsung lost a massive court case for copying Apple. You would think a company would try to introduce different products in the future...

Many people care about Samsung using the home button? I doubt anyone really gives a damn unless they are using someone elses tech without paying.

And yes, Samsung lost a case against Apple. Doesnt mean everything they do is copying or is a blatant copy. People like to hang on to crap like this the same way they keep calling Google theifs/dont be evile, Apple antenna gate/it just works, and MS prices of their software. It is past old.

stevan said,

Apple was the first to implement it on a "home" button. Now Samsung is copying them.

So what. It only makes sense for it to go there. After all, the iPhone doesn't have any other buttons. Your point is still moot. I support Samsung should have added a ne button just for the sensor? I mean really?

Let me ask you this. When Ford brought the automobile to the USA, how come all the other car companies didn't put the steering wheel SOMEWHERE ELSE? Why didn't they put the horn somewhere else? Why didn't they put all 4 wheels somewhere else?

I guess they are blatantly copying, or maybe...JUST MAYBE, this is the best implementation of the concept. Which is the better answer.

See, the problem with being BIAS, as you are, is you fail to think of things in any direction other than your twisted biased thinking.

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
So what. It only makes sense for it to go there. After all, the iPhone doesn't have any other buttons. Your point is still moot. I support Samsung should have added a ne button just for the sensor? I mean really?

Let me ask you this. When Ford brought the automobile to the USA, how come all the other car companies didn't put the steering wheel SOMEWHERE ELSE? Why didn't they put the horn somewhere else? Why didn't they put all 4 wheels somewhere else?

I guess they are blatantly copying, or maybe...JUST MAYBE, this is the best implementation of the concept. Which is the better answer.

See, the problem with being BIAS, as you are, is you fail to think of things in any direction other than your twisted biased thinking.

The first ford cars were copied by all other companies. Patents worked differently back then. Take a history class...

stevan said,

Many people do. Last I heard Samsung lost a massive court case for copying Apple. You would think a company would try to introduce different products in the future...

The only one I see who cares is YOU. Because you one sided thinkers only see things one way.

What none of you every see/say is simple. If a company makes the best way, and everyone uses it because it is the best way, what is the problem?

When Apple first made a tablet and phone with a centralized home button, why didn't they put the button somewhere else? I mean, after all, oher devices already had the centralized home button. If APple is so innovatve, why didn't they do it a diiferent way? S did they blantantly copy someone else?

See here is what is wrong - "blatantly" makes it sound like a bad thing.

SO using YOUR words, Apple blantantly copied Android Notification Center. They blantantly copied the Toggle from Cydia. They blatanty stole wireless syncing from Greg. They blatantly stole the Siri UI from the Chinese company. They blatantly stole the iPhone and iPad name from the original owners. They blantantly stole the McIntosh name and even the name of their company "Apple". They blatantky stole the Graphical User Interface from HP/Palto Alto. Do you need me to go on.

In fact every industry Apple has entered, they did so by "BLATANTLY" stealing other peoples ideas. I REPEAT. EVERY INDUSTRY APPLE HAS EVER ENTERED THEY DID SO BY BLANTANTLY STEALING OTHER COMPANIES IDEAS.

please try to refute what I said by saying I am wrong.

Samsung didn't blatantly copy. They simply did what was the best option. We have already seen phones with the sensor on the back. How well have there sales been.

This "hate" using YOUR words of Samsung for doing the exact same thing ALL companies in their respective industries so is so mind-boggling.

Laptops don't have a home button do they? So where else on a phone to tablet is the best place to put it? Why is a steering wheel mounted in the exact same location in cars and trucks? Is this blatant copying or is it just an industry standard?

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
The only one I see who cares is YOU. Because you one sided thinkers only see things one way.

What none of you every see/say is simple. If a company makes the best way, and everyone uses it because it is the best way, what is the problem?

When Apple first made a tablet and phone with a centralized home button, why didn't they put the button somewhere else? I mean, after all, oher devices already had the centralized home button. If APple is so innovatve, why didn't they do it a diiferent way? S did they blantantly copy someone else?

See here is what is wrong - "blatantly" makes it sound like a bad thing.

SO using YOUR words, Apple blantantly copied Android Notification Center. They blantantly copied the Toggle from Cydia. They blatanty stole wireless syncing from Greg. They blatantly stole the Siri UI from the Chinese company. They blatantly stole the iPhone and iPad name from the original owners. They blantantly stole the McIntosh name and even the name of their company "Apple". They blatantky stole the Graphical User Interface from HP/Palto Alto. Do you need me to go on.

In fact every industry Apple has entered, they did so by "BLATANTLY" stealing other peoples ideas. I REPEAT. EVERY INDUSTRY APPLE HAS EVER ENTERED THEY DID SO BY BLANTANTLY STEALING OTHER COMPANIES IDEAS.

please try to refute what I said by saying I am wrong.

Samsung didn't blatantly copy. They simply did what was the best option. We have already seen phones with the sensor on the back. How well have there sales been.

This "hate" using YOUR words of Samsung for doing the exact same thing ALL companies in their respective industries so is so mind-boggling.

Laptops don't have a home button do they? So where else on a phone to tablet is the best place to put it? Why is a steering wheel mounted in the exact same location in cars and trucks? Is this blatant copying or is it just an industry standard?

I'm going to quote another user who can clearly see your bias against Apple:

Of all people that have whined about Apple products, your argument has to be one of the most pathetic attempts... Sorry.

Then I'll leave this here:

http://obamapacman.com/wp-cont...ablet-copied-Apple-iPad.jpg

stevan said,

I'm going to quote another user who can clearly see your bias against Apple:

I don't care about that. I asked you to refute what I said. You couldn't because you simply cant because I am 100% right. I personally don't give 2 cents about any personal opinions of any poster. They can say whatever they like. All you fanbois get all like penny in a bunch when someone says something bad about Apple.

Its sad that all of you blatantly just say the same thing each other say, because you don't even have enough guts to think or do things different. The cult following is so strong.

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
I don't care about that. I asked you to refute what I said. You couldn't because you simply cant because I am 100% right. I personally don't give 2 cents about any personal opinions of any poster. They can say whatever they like. All you fanbois get all like penny in a bunch when someone says something bad about Apple.

Its sad that all of you blatantly just say the same thing each other say, because you don't even have enough guts to think or do things different. The cult following is so strong.

http://obamapacman.com/wp-cont...ablet-copied-Apple-iPad.jpg

Please stop using caps letters. It makes you look childish and even more wrong.

stevan said,

http://obamapacman.com/wp-cont...ablet-copied-Apple-iPad.jpg

Please stop using caps letters. It makes you look childish and even more wrong.

Dude seriously? You guys always post that same picture.

Funny how the original iPad looks just like this - http://www.blogcdn.com/www.eng.../03/samsungpictureframe.jpg

Its funny how Siri looks exactly like this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku0H10_G1X4

They even stole the icon.
Or how about Apple stealing this -
Haedrian writes
"Apple is famous for going to absurd lengths to enforce its patents and trademarks. It recently sued Amazon for calling its app store Appstore. And it has publicly lectured competitors to 'create their own original technology, not steal ours.' Last year, UK developer Greg Hughes submitted an app for wirelessly syncing iPhones with iTunes libraries, which was rejected from the official App Store. Fast forward to Monday, when Apple unveiled a set of new features for the upcoming iOS 5, including the same wireless-syncing functionality. Cupertino wasn't even subtle about the appropriation, using the precise name and a near-identical logo to market the technology."

And before you claim corporations don't steal other companies ideas? http://abcnews.go.com/US/MadeI...dea-china/story?id=17720122

So ist not Asian countires steal American ideas, American companies do it as well. Make sure you actually watch the video. Please claim Apple has NEVER done this?

I am done with it now.

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
Dude seriously? You guys always post that same picture.

Funny how the original iPad looks just like this - http://www.blogcdn.com/www.eng.../03/samsungpictureframe.jpg

Its funny how Siri looks exactly like this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku0H10_G1X4

They even stole the icon.
Or how about Apple stealing this -
Haedrian writes
"Apple is famous for going to absurd lengths to enforce its patents and trademarks. It recently sued Amazon for calling its app store Appstore. And it has publicly lectured competitors to 'create their own original technology, not steal ours.' Last year, UK developer Greg Hughes submitted an app for wirelessly syncing iPhones with iTunes libraries, which was rejected from the official App Store. Fast forward to Monday, when Apple unveiled a set of new features for the upcoming iOS 5, including the same wireless-syncing functionality. Cupertino wasn't even subtle about the appropriation, using the precise name and a near-identical logo to market the technology."

And before you claim corporations don't steal other companies ideas? http://abcnews.go.com/US/MadeI...dea-china/story?id=17720122

So ist not Asian countires steal American ideas, American companies do it as well. Make sure you actually watch the video. Please claim Apple has NEVER done this?

I am done with it now.

Haha nice try but big fail. Don't remember Apple loosing a billion dollar copyright lawsuit.

Maybe you should lookup samsung cars, they got them in South Korea. You will see a company that copies across all of its product lines.

stevan said,

The first ford cars were copied by all other companies. Patents worked differently back then. Take a history class...

Totally not true. There is something that beats copyright laws, its called "Standards". When a standard is set as the best option like many ISO standards, it into considered copying to use them, FACT - the location of the steering wheel is simply the optimal location. So any other company doing the same is not copying, it is simply standard.

Theer are standards in communication, there are standards in production, there are standards in lots of things. I guess everyone who makes jeans copied Levi Straus....right?

Also as far as your other post, I was unaware Apple lost in a copyright lawsuit. Oh well, I guess they SHOULD COPY.

But I guess its ok for Apple to do it? After all you have yet to show me one original product that have made where their is NO previous similar product whatsoever. They all copy. I admitted to the fact the first Galaxy S surely does copy the first iPhone. However Samsung already had at that point made 5 devices that had a centralize home button ad was a full screen device. The last being the F700 which predates the iPhone. Apple didn't make their own phone, Sony designed it and Apple used/copied/[aid for the design they got. However ever since then, where has the iPhone gone? Same design for 7 models. AT least for the 5 S models from Samsung, even tho they carry the family look and style, they don't look exactly alike.

there are only so many ways to make a phone. No one should be copying anyone. however, if you going to mention copying, then fairly mention how Apple has copied Android, Windows Phone, Blackberry and more. Then we will be fine.
See it is easy for me to say it, because I have no loyalty to any brand. NONE. I buy what I like and what works, NO more or less. They give credit where it is do and I attack when they deserve it as well. Samsung too.

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
Totally not true. There is something that beats copyright laws, its called "Standards". When a standard is set as the best option like many ISO standards, it into considered copying to use them, FACT - the location of the steering wheel is simply the optimal location. So any other company doing the same is not copying, it is simply standard.

Theer are standards in communication, there are standards in production, there are standards in lots of things. I guess everyone who makes jeans copied Levi Straus....right?

Also as far as your other post, I was unaware Apple lost in a copyright lawsuit. Oh well, I guess they SHOULD COPY.

But I guess its ok for Apple to do it? After all you have yet to show me one original product that have made where their is NO previous similar product whatsoever. They all copy. I admitted to the fact the first Galaxy S surely does copy the first iPhone. However Samsung already had at that point made 5 devices that had a centralize home button ad was a full screen device. The last being the F700 which predates the iPhone. Apple didn't make their own phone, Sony designed it and Apple used/copied/[aid for the design they got. However ever since then, where has the iPhone gone? Same design for 7 models. AT least for the 5 S models from Samsung, even tho they carry the family look and style, they don't look exactly alike.

there are only so many ways to make a phone. No one should be copying anyone. however, if you going to mention copying, then fairly mention how Apple has copied Android, Windows Phone, Blackberry and more. Then we will be fine.
See it is easy for me to say it, because I have no loyalty to any brand. NONE. I buy what I like and what works, NO more or less. They give credit where it is do and I attack when they deserve it as well. Samsung too.

This picture above says the F700 was shown at CeBit 2006, and then released in 2007, making Apple and the iPhone the one that copied them. This is completely false. We here love Android, not Apple, but this is a interesting story and I just felt like sharing either way. Even if Apple is in the right. According to the picture the F700 was introduced in 2006, and Apple stole the design. I'm not going to get to deep on this, but the F700 was never seen until February of 2007 and our very own slashgear had it completely covered. This is AFTER Apple announced and showed the world the iPhone January 9th 2007 at MacWorld.

Everything else is your regular lies.

Co-ords said,
They can't innovate anything, even the OS is from someone else...
Apple can't innovate anything either. After all Sony made their iPhone design. The new features of iOS 7 are all identical to what has been on Android for years. And the design of the iPhone has remain the same for every single model, iPad too.

Apple cant innovate. They bought the company that makes Siri, stole the UI from another application that was made in China, rush to slap it on a phone designed by Sony.

When you cant innovate you buy someone else who can. How did APple get the biometric sensor? Did they innovate and make it? NO. They bought the company that has been making them for over 2 decades. In fact it works nearly identical to the one in both my laptops.

What did Apple actually innovate? Nothing.
So I failed to see your point. OH! Is it because you didn't actually make one?

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
Apple can't innovate anything either. After all Sony made their iPhone design. The new features of iOS 7 are all identical to what has been on Android for years. And the design of the iPhone has remain the same for every single model, iPad too.

Apple cant innovate. They bought the company that makes Siri, stole the UI from another application that was made in China, rush to slap it on a phone designed by Sony.

When you cant innovate you buy someone else who can. How did APple get the biometric sensor? Did they innovate and make it? NO. They bought the company that has been making them for over 2 decades. In fact it works nearly identical to the one in both my laptops.

What did Apple actually innovate? Nothing.
So I failed to see your point. OH! Is it because you didn't actually make one?

Way to fall for it, he didn't even mention Apple...

Co-ords said,
They can't innovate anything, even the OS is from someone else...
So is Apple OS. After all, Apple didn't make BSD, they didn't make Unix. Right?

Samsung at least have their own OS that they made called Bada. Ever heard of it?

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
So is Apple OS. After all, Apple didn't make BSD, they didn't make Unix. Right?

Samsung at least have their own OS that they made called Bada. Ever heard of it?

Bada is BSD. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
Apple can't innovate anything either.

You don't know what that word means apparently. Innovate and invent do not mean the same thing, which is where your argument falls apart.

stevan said,

Way to fall for it, he didn't even mention Apple...

I didn't fall for anything. See you are so quick to correct. The vast majority of the posts are saying Samsung is copying Apple.

His point was, they cant innovate...blah blah blah. How many company's with an OS can claim it is theirs? NONE OF THEM. They all robbed someone else for it or licensed it, bought it or whatever. No one has their own OS.

And I said Bada is Samsung OS. It is..It is made by them. The underlying foundation is BSD? So? What's your point? I made my point and I was correct. Not sure what you call yourself fixing.

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
I didn't fall for anything. See you are so quick to correct. The vast majority of the posts are saying Samsung is copying Apple.

His point was, they cant innovate...blah blah blah. How many company's with an OS can claim it is theirs? NONE OF THEM. They all robbed someone else for it or licensed it, bought it or whatever. No one has their own OS.

And I said Bada is Samsung OS. It is..It is made by them. The underlying foundation is BSD? So? What's your point? I made my point and I was correct. Not sure what you call yourself fixing.

Samsung didn't make their OS. If the underlying foundation is another OS then it's not made by them. Go do some research.

And his original post had nothing to do with Apple, yet like always you fell for it. Just look at how many people are calling you out in this thread...

dead.cell said,

You don't know what that word means apparently. Innovate and invent do not mean the same thing, which is where your argument falls apart.
NO duh. I know exacyly what innovate means.

However, if you just take someone else idea an simply implement it in a slightly different way, that is not innovation in this case.

Here is why. How does a fingerprint reader work? It works by reading your fingerprint as it passes over the sensor. Right? Much like sliding your credit card in a card reader. Right?

What did Apple innovate? Nothing. Authentec simply made the sensor round so that it fits in the home button. Since the button is so big, it doesn't require sliding. You simply can lay your finger on it and it will read because the part of the finger it needs can fit onto the sensor at one time so you don't have to slide it.

What is innovation would be this - I have a credit card. The old way to make a purchase is to slide it in the reader for a scan. The new innovative approach is to take your credit card and simply lay it on a screen or sensor for a read and it still works. Same card, totally different way to handle it. That's innovation.

This is innovation defined - make changes in something established, esp. by introducing new methods, ideas, or products. What did Apple change? NOTHING. You still have to physically touch the sensor with your finger for a read, thus the implementation didn't change.

What would have been an innovation is for example in this case, taking your finger and hovering it over the button and a laser read your finger. That would be innovation because the concept would have been changed as well.

Lets try another. On smartphones you use your finger to slide the home screens from left to right. Now, that phones have special sensors, you can move screens by shaking the phone back and forth, or waving your hand over the screen. That is a total change from the original.

The key words in the definition are NEW METHOD or IDEA. Where is the new method or idea with Touch ID? You have to place your finger on the sensor. On my laptop my HP Envy it has a finger print reader. How do I use it? I have t place my finger on it. On my ThinkPad I have to place my finger on it. So where is the innovation?

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
NO duh. I know exacyly what innovate means.

However, if you just take someone else idea an simply implement it in a slightly different way, that is not innovation in this case.

Here is why. How does a fingerprint reader work? It works by reading your fingerprint as it passes over the sensor. Right? Much like sliding your credit card in a card reader. Right?

What did Apple innovate? Nothing. Authentec simply made the sensor round so that it fits in the home button. Since the button is so big, it doesn't require sliding. You simply can lay your finger on it and it will read because the part of the finger it needs can fit onto the sensor at one time so you don't have to slide it.

What is innovation would be this - I have a credit card. The old way to make a purchase is to slide it in the reader for a scan. The new innovative approach is to take your credit card and simply lay it on a screen or sensor for a read and it still works. Same card, totally different way to handle it. That's innovation.

This is innovation defined - make changes in something established, esp. by introducing new methods, ideas, or products. What did Apple change? NOTHING. You still have to physically touch the sensor with your finger for a read, thus the implementation didn't change.

What would have been an innovation is for example in this case, taking your finger and hovering it over the button and a laser read your finger. That would be innovation because the concept would have been changed as well.

Lets try another. On smartphones you use your finger to slide the home screens from left to right. Now, that phones have special sensors, you can move screens by shaking the phone back and forth, or waving your hand over the screen. That is a total change from the original.

The key words in the definition are NEW METHOD or IDEA. Where is the new method or idea with Touch ID? You have to place your finger on the sensor. On my laptop my HP Envy it has a finger print reader. How do I use it? I have t place my finger on it. On my ThinkPad I have to place my finger on it. So where is the innovation?

Go read reviews on TouchID before spewing garbage. Then you will see exactly how apple innovated. Your argument is completely wrong.

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
NO duh. I know exacyly what innovate means.

Clearly, you don't. It's a two part definition, half of which you're opting to ignore to say Apple doesn't innovate. You don't need to own iDevices, let alone be a fan to understand what Apple's done for the industry. If you can't accept that, then that's your problem.

No sense in writing novels of misinformation simply because you dislike a company.

Apple and HTC have already implemented a fingerprint sensor but it is not a must-have feature for most users yet.

more like... "for any users... ever."

I don't even realize I'm doing the fingerprint on my 5S as I'm so used to it now. Some of us out there do enjoy it.

Then again I would rather have a physical keyboard back too


Here's how Samsung plans to sell the fingerprint sensor in the Galaxy S5: a gold color version and a 64bit CPU! lol.

So it's basically a crappier version of what Apple did... Not that it matters that they're also using the home button, but it's a little sad that they couldn't figure out how to make it work as easy as Apple did.

Astra.Xtreme said,
So it's basically a crappier version of what Apple did... Not that it matters that they're also using the home button, but it's a little sad that they couldn't figure out how to make it work as easy as Apple did.

Apple patented their idea so much that Samsung probably couldn't implement it the same way. But Samsung do what Samsung do best and copy.

The interesting aspect of Samsung's implementation is that during the swipe, the S5 will show the fingerprint being scanned on the display in real-time.

Meaning the Galaxy S5 will store an image of the fingerprint somewhere. That is a no-no. There's no reason to do that.

Astra.Xtreme said,
So it's basically a crappier version of what Apple did... Not that it matters that they're also using the home button, but it's a little sad that they couldn't figure out how to make it work as easy as Apple did.
How is it crappier? Last I checked, All biometric sensor require a swipe of the finger. The only difference with how it was implemented for Apple, is the home button is big enough to get a reading without a swipe. But it still requires you to put the whole finger in place.

Its not crappier. Its just different from Apple, but just like all sensors have been.
Stop cheerleading that Apple is better. All it does right now is unlock the phone. My laptop stores in for for passwords and websites so I can swipe to enter and don't even have to type anything. Can your iPhone do that? NO! Not yet! So if anything Apple's version is crappier because it is a one trick pony, like everything else is on the iPhone.

It is so sad how people like YOU and Stevan hate because someone makes a better product. SAD!!!

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
How is it crappier? Last I checked, All biometric sensor require a swipe of the finger. The only difference with how it was implemented for Apple, is the home button is big enough to get a reading without a swipe. But it still requires you to put the whole finger in place.

Its not crappier. Its just different from Apple, but just like all sensors have been.
Stop cheerleading that Apple is better. All it does right now is unlock the phone. My laptop stores in for for passwords and websites so I can swipe to enter and don't even have to type anything. Can your iPhone do that? NO! Not yet! So if anything Apple's version is crappier because it is a one trick pony, like everything else is on the iPhone.

It is so sad how people like YOU and Stevan hate because someone makes a better product. SAD!!!

Wait, we hate but you have to use caps lock and exclamation marks? This looks just another Samesung copy. No wonder they spend 4x more on advertising than Apple....

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
How is it crappier? Last I checked, All biometric sensor require a swipe of the finger. The only difference with how it was implemented for Apple, is the home button is big enough to get a reading without a swipe. But it still requires you to put the whole finger in place.

Its not crappier. Its just different from Apple, but just like all sensors have been.
Stop cheerleading that Apple is better. All it does right now is unlock the phone. My laptop stores in for for passwords and websites so I can swipe to enter and don't even have to type anything. Can your iPhone do that? NO! Not yet! So if anything Apple's version is crappier because it is a one trick pony, like everything else is on the iPhone.

It is so sad how people like YOU and Stevan hate because someone makes a better product. SAD!!!

What the heck are you going on about? First you completely contradict yourself in the first sentence, and then you randomly go on an angry tangent about what your laptop can do that an iPhone can't... Somebody is a little butthurt...

My car has a subwoofer in it, so it must mean that your laptop is a POS...

Of all people that have whined about Apple products, your argument has to be one of the most pathetic attempts... Sorry.

Rosyna said,
A crappier version with none of the security.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5949

Um, I would just like to point out that you have no idea what security features they have implemented. All you have to go on is a short article that doesn't mention much about security. Don't try and share your speculation as fact.

Rosyna said,
A crappier version with none of the security.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5949

How would you even know? We don't even know who makes the sensor. We also don't know what the encryption is an more. So your statement is nothing more than crap.

Oh and yeah, Apple's TouchID is so secure, it was defeated in less than a few hours with a fingerprint on a piece of tape.

That and hundreds of people posting how the thing doesn't work, most of the time.
I still see my business partner, hit the home buttn more than once to unlock it. He gets so frustrated with it, because he misses calls do to the fact the phone wont unlock when he hits the button.

Sliding the finger on a sensor is also no better. Because your finger needs to be straight. If you do it to fast or out of the tolerance of the angle or not enough pressure for a read, it fails. I like the sensor as added security on my 2 laptops. But fact is, the password is actually faster because unless you mistype it, it will always work the very first time.

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
That and hundreds of people posting how the thing doesn't work, most of the time.

Vs millions sold. I like that ratio.

How things happen. one person comes out with something, the others copy. But Samsung didnt implement this the same way as Apple so I dont see a problem.

Simon Fowkes said,
I sense a disturbance in the law suit coming...

I don't see Apple suing them this time. I can see this as copying but the implementation method is different. Plus Apple patented their version.

Fingerprint scanners are not new tech. They have been around for a long time. The fact that it is now in a cell phone (which has been done before Apple) is insignificant.

Everyone copies, period.

techbeck said,
Fingerprint scanners are not new tech. They have been around for a long time. The fact that it is now in a cell phone (which has been done before Apple) is insignificant.

Everyone copies, period.

You don't have to be the first to do something to be copied. No one said Apple was first to put a fingerprint sensor on a phone, but they were first to make it functional.

stevan said,

You don't have to be the first to do something to be copied. No one said Apple was first to put a fingerprint sensor on a phone, but they were first to make it functional.

It was functional before. Apple just took it a step farther.

still_rookie said,
"Stop copying Apple for $%£$% sake!"

Why? It breeds competition and constantly pushes Apple to introduce new tech.

I would rather Samsung introduce something like an eye scanner. Or fingerprint scanner built into the screen. I think either of those would be more "innovative" than Touch ID.

My Motorola ATIV had a fingerprint scanner long before Apple and it was functional. There are a lot of things Apple copied. Apple is just good at socializing them.

willgill said,
My Motorola ATIV had a fingerprint scanner long before Apple and it was functional. There are a lot of things Apple copied. Apple is just good at socializing them.

ATIV?

stevan said,

No it wasn't. See word: functional.

I know the word. Fact is, fingerprint scanners worked before and were functional. Even if all it did was unlock a device...it was functional as long as it did what was intended. Apple added more function to it and took it farther.

willgill said,
My Motorola ATIV had a fingerprint scanner long before Apple and it was functional. There are a lot of things Apple copied. Apple is just good at socializing them.

Think you meant Atrix, not ATIV.

Simon Fowkes said,
I sense a disturbance in the law suit coming...
How so. Samsung can have a biometric sensor in the home button too. As long as the implantation it not the same or they licensed the tech from Authentec before or even after Apple bought it.

And it isn't copying. After all other phones and laptops have such a feature. What Samsung is copying is making a phone right behind someone else who made one too. Then again, how do we know these other guys weren't already going to do this? We don't.

I think the sensor is a waste.

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
How so. Samsung can have a biometric sensor in the home button too. As long as the implantation it not the same or they licensed the tech from Authentec before or even after Apple bought it.

And it isn't copying. After all other phones and laptops have such a feature. What Samsung is copying is making a phone right behind someone else who made one too. Then again, how do we know these other guys weren't already going to do this? We don't.

I think the sensor is a waste.

Samsung is blatantly copying Apple in this case. Not even trying to hide it.

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stevan said,
Samsung is blatantly copying Apple in this case. Not even trying to hide it.

Welcome to how things work. This is the norm for companies and is NO big deal as long as they are not infringing on Apple's property.

This whole who copied who talk here is getting old and is nothing new to what has been going on for years. People just like to bitch about Samsung since they got in trouble and now anything similar they produce to anyone else, it is copying.

techbeck said,

Welcome to how things work. This is the norm for companies and is NO big deal as long as they are not infringing on Apple's property.

This whole who copied who talk here is getting old and is nothing new to what has been going on for years. People just like to bitch about Samsung since they got in trouble and now anything similar they produce to anyone else, it is copying.

Have you been absent from any topics that deal with Apple's announcements? I agree with you, copying is the way of the future, and implementing features a different way is how manufacturers can differentiate themselves. Features such as screen size, phone colors and most OS features are expected to be copied. Copying "home button" fingerprint sensor is just a bit over the top. But I can't see Samsung being able to implement it any other way.

stevan said,
Copying "home button" fingerprint sensor is just a bit over the top. But I can't see Samsung being able to implement it any other way.

Again, who cares if they put it in the home button. The function and implementation are different.

Its like as a car manufacturer, you place the horn on the center of the steering wheel and then complain that every other car manufacturer put it in the same place. In the grand scheme of things, it makes no difference at all.


Apple was the first to implement it on a "home" button. Now Samsung is copying them.

Still wrong. They were not the first to implement it in a home button. I have an Acer device on my shelf that predates Apple's attempt by several years.

Apple's only innovation is making it friendly.

techbeck said,

It was functional before. Apple just took it a step farther.


It's still functional. Mom's iPhone 5S fails to pick up her fingerprint after 3-4 days. She has to re-register it and it will only work for 3-4 days again.

stevan said,

Have you been absent from any topics that deal with Apple's announcements? I agree with you, copying is the way of the future, and implementing features a different way is how manufacturers can differentiate themselves. Features such as screen size, phone colors and most OS features are expected to be copied. Copying "home button" fingerprint sensor is just a bit over the top. But I can't see Samsung being able to implement it any other way.

I have actually been waiting for a decent new phone with a fingerprint scanner in the home button since before apple released the 5s. The very fact that I wanted this feature before I'd seen a phone with it means that its not hard or innovative to come up with the idea. I don't think they would try and sue Samsung for this because its just not a new idea but I wouldn't be surprised considering they tried to sue them for using rounded corners and bouncy menus lol.

And there's the answer right there. It's the same argument people made about Linux "copying" Windows, GUI-wise, by implementing things like window widgets, taskbar-like docks, etc. Sooner or later, there becomes a tendency to implement things in the same way because they work. In the case of a fingerprint scanner, putting it in the home button is practically and the only real efficient way to do it.

All this was more or less proven in the Apple v. Microsoft case. Copying/borrowing/implementing the same functionality is fine, even doing it in more or less the same manner is fine, the only issue is when you actually steal the code, which none of these companies are doing.

Samsung isn't very innovative, but then neither is Apple, Microsoft, Sony, etc. Everyone copies, and in the end it's the users who win because everyone gets better products.

stevan said,

Samsung is blatantly copying Apple in this case. Not even trying to hide it.

FALSE. Can you please pull up ioS7 on your device and tell us honestly, what features have been blatantly ripped off from Android.

I'll be waiting. If you cant do this in an open forum/blog, then hush please talking about someone ripping off Apple. They simply didn't. PLAIN AND SIMPLE

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
FALSE. Can you please pull up ioS7 on your device and tell us honestly, what features have been blatantly ripped off from Android.

I'll be waiting. If you cant do this in an open forum/blog, then hush please talking about someone ripping off Apple. They simply didn't. PLAIN AND SIMPLE

Last time I checked a Samsung lost a few court cases for copying...

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
FALSE. Can you please pull up ioS7 on your device and tell us honestly, what features have been blatantly ripped off from Android.

I'll be waiting. If you cant do this in an open forum/blog, then hush please talking about someone ripping off Apple. They simply didn't. PLAIN AND SIMPLE

Notification centre, for a start.

stevan said,
No wonder Samesung needs the biggest marketing budget in history to sell their products.
Mind if I bring up something I told you before? Authentec is the company that Apple bought. This is the same company that made the Biometric Sensor in the Motorola Atrix and in many laptops like the HP Envy and IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad.

Now this is obviously an assumption in some way and includes some facts.
When Apple was offering to buy this company, can we assume that this company also told Apple, hey this is a very good move as others are also making this move. Then Apple may have said, hey is their an option we can have solely for our phone? They said Yes.
Once Apple bought the company, they now have access to the following data - They know who this company has made sensors for in the past. They also know who may be planning to get one now and now soon and what phone they may want it for.

Now that they have full info, they easily can plan ahead. Right?
Also, is this not equally the same as, since Apple is a ARM licensee they know what the roadmap was for 64bit chips to be released and they simply made their own so they could be first.

Now in this case is Samsung copying Apple again? Of course they are! But thanks to Samsung thinking out the box, thanks to the fact other OEM's use Android, Samsung is using the feature to a higher degree with better option and capabilities.

I mean after all, APple copies good ideas from Android, Windows and everyone else. Why shouldn't all OEM's get to do it?

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
Now in this case is Samsung copying Apple again? Of course they are! But thanks to Samsung thinking out the box, thanks to the fact other OEM's use Android, Samsung is using the feature to a higher degree with better option and capabilities.

Do you even realize the safety and privacy implications when using fingerprints? And why Apple chose a separate processor for storing them?

stevan said,

Do you even realize the safety and privacy implications when using fingerprints? And why Apple chose a separate processor for storing them?

What are you on about? What does what you said have to do with the quoted text? Are you insinuating that Samsung havn't done this? Because we don't know yet.

M4x1mus said,

What are you on about? What does what you said have to do with the quoted text? Are you insinuating that Samsung havn't done this? Because we don't know yet.

Umm, what?