HP: Teen Edition

HP's director of future innovations, Ameer Karim, has announced that HP will be launching a fall line of "Teen" PC products. HP has hired a council of teenagers who will help design the products, and even HP's website.

"That's a major transformation for a company like HP, which has been much more focused on an older crowd," said Karim.

Going from business friendly to teen friendly is a big step. Currently the devices that will be designed are unknown, however more details will be available in the future.

Does HP have some new innovations up their sleeves, or will we see a price hike for standard PC specs?

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Well the tag of "designed for teens" is what makes this comedic.

I hope it inst stupid changes - like "laptop with denim exterior" or "audible myspace/facebook alerts" that someone updated

I can see their new TV ads - "Dude, you're gettin' a Hewlett Packard!" I don't know, it just doesn't have the same ring...

This is going to turn into an excuse to make computers which feature cases you'll NEVER be able to fit a replacement mainboard into, because the design looks cooler.

I know I'm not a teenager anymore, but what I want is a really good out-of-the-box experience, which means:

* No 50 "free trial antimalware" programs. Instead, how abouyt a leaflet on best-practice computing?

* No 20 "ISP signup offers" (the first-time market is now small, so people have an ISP of choice).

* When I get it out of the box and plugged in, I want to be up and running in five minutes. I've seen machines which take like 20 minutes just to do the first boot "preparing your desktop" and loading all the OEM's "assistant" software. Aside from all the lovely "agree to a 90 page EULA" screens.

* Speaking from when I was a student, I wish they'd bring ribbon printers back. The all-or-nothing nature of inkjet print is a huge liability when it's the night before your term paper is due, and you run out. A dot-matrix ribbon, you can always get 5 more pages out of it in an emergency. They'll hate the lack of people HAVING to immediately buy new cartridges, but they can go to hell in this regard.

* Give us some open-source goodies to stock your bundles. Nobody wants Microsoft Works or WordPerfect Suite, but we'd gladly accept OpenOffice. And who exactly are we capitulating to by not bundling the GIMP?

* On a similar vein, can we make sure the legitimate 'mandatory' stuff is installed? Things like the Flash plugin and a PDF reader? I'd also love to see somehow they ticked all the "don't tell me how a secure page works again" boxes.

Yep people dont want this crap... but like the lower prices. Thats why computers from better high end manufactures cost more when you turn it on you are welcomed with just a recycle bin on your desktop and a nice short programs menu.

(Xilo said @ #18.2)
#1 rule of buying a Windows OEM computer is to first format the drive and reinstall Windows.

Unfortunately that's becoming impossible, as OEMs don't tend to bundle a Windows disc any more, instead relying on a "recovery" disc that accesses a hidden recovery partition on the HDD. And if you do that, then you're back to square 1 with all the annoying proprietary software.

(Gilly said @ #18.4)

Unfortunately that's becoming impossible, as OEMs don't tend to bundle a Windows disc any more, instead relying on a "recovery" disc that accesses a hidden recovery partition on the HDD. And if you do that, then you're back to square 1 with all the annoying proprietary software.


.. and that's why you build your own! If you're going the laptop route... get a white box.

I work at an office and I support 100 people they bring me their home computers when they need help with them. I can tell you without a doubt that teenagers using file sharing software slow windows to the point that it is unuseable. If you run a spyware scan on the computer it finds a ridiculous amount of stuff. The only way to fix it is to do a system restore. I am not trying to hate on teens but more on the companies that make this software. They are the real problem.

Is it going to come preloaded with every file sharing spyware application om the market? I am sick to death of having to reload computers because teenagers destroy them in a day by downloading everything they shouldn't be. If HP wants to make a real teen computer take off IE and put on Firefox. That would at least be a start. Make sure that any program with the words Donkey, Mule, Kazaa, or Lime will not install while they are at it.

I used to hide my pot stash in my old PC years ago when I smoked in high school... so I think there a potential market here if they do small things like integrated stash bins or quick release panels :P

(Budious said @ #10)
I used to hide my pot stash in my old PC years ago when I smoked in high school... so I think there a potential market here if they do small things like integrated stash bins or quick release panels :P


I'll do you one better, a place inside the case to put DVDs full of porn.

(Oxuyoska said @ #10.2)


I'll do you one better, a place inside the case to put DVDs full of porn.

Isn't that what the hard disk is for?

(Smigit said @ #10.3)
Isn't that what the hard disk is for?

My dad had one of his cop friends come over when I was about 15 years old, they searched my hard drive (all 420 megs) and deleted my porn stash. I was kinda ****ed. I even did the old ALT 255 in DOS when I made the directory. :-(

I miss my old HS porn stash.

(RAID 0 said @ #10.4)

My dad had one of his cop friends come over when I was about 15 years old, they searched my hard drive (all 420 megs) and deleted my porn stash. I was kinda ****ed. I even did the old ALT 255 in DOS when I made the directory. :-(

I miss my old HS porn stash.

use "true crypt" and put all your porn on an encrypted virtual drive

Where's the division consisting of people who've been using pc's for longer than those kids have been alive? The same people who'd be able to actually afford the new designs?

I believe you're talking about the people who work for the company already. Business people need stuff for only work, teens often need a computer for school, and anyone else either uses a crappy PC they picked up at Best Buy (for sending emails), build their own (if they actually care), or pick up a computer for students or business people.

I have a feeling that when they refer to "teens", they mean first and second year college/university students. Those are the people who will be able to afford them. And quite honestly, the student market is much bigger than the one you're a part of (laptops are becooming more and more of a requirement in many colleges and universities).

Anything labeled as "teen" is almost always patronizing crap.

Most teenagers don't like thinking of themselves as "teens" and think teen spirit is a joke invented by adults.

The teens that do talk about themselves as teens are tools.

anyone see that special ARTIST edition laptop... it was god awful ugly, and if this is what the Teen Editions are going to be about... this is going to suck

Hopefully they're picking some practical teenagers. Not the "Let's impress our friends!" ones, but the ones who have some sense of design and what a product actually needs. For example, laptops with big logos, etc. that look "cool" don't necessarily look good. And please, PLEASE put in a reasonable keyboard and trackpad! The current HP laptops are uncomfortable to put your hands on. Why did they decide to replace a smooth trackpad with a bunch of small dents?

My guess is that we'll end up with something Macbook-y out of this. My friends definitely like Macs more than regular laptops, mainly because they're beautifully designed compared to a majority of other laptops out there.

Don't ask why, but I don't see a desktop coming out of this. And I somehow doubt you can make a teen-friendly camera or printer.

Do they come with extra sharp edges so they can cut themselves while writing about how much their life sucks on their LJ's at the same time?

(Kushan said @ #2)
Do they come with extra sharp edges so they can cut themselves while writing about how much their life sucks on their LJ's at the same time?

This thread is now about sweeping generalisations. Oh, wait - it was already! My bad.

(Cierro said @ #2.3)
Not funny, at all. :(

*gives Cierro a blade* go off and listen to My Chemical Romance/AFI/Fall Out Boy.

(^_^ Silly Willy said @ #2.5)
What's an LJ?

It's like a BJ, but better!

Oh.. and if you have to ask.... you can't afford it.

I think it COULD be a good idea. And that's a big could because they could end up turning out really good or they could be heading in a really wrong direction with how they are designing them and how much they cost.