HTC Mondrian specs leak; Windows Phone 7, 1.3 GHz processor?

HTC Mondrian

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As pointed out by Engadget, XDA-Developers has posted a chunk of code from a Windows Phone 7 ROM leak, which made its way to the Internet over the weekend. The phone is manufactured by HTC and will have specs, the likes of which have yet to be sold in today's smartphone market. The phone is said to be called "Mondrian" and was referenced within the leaked code. According to what was found in the ROM, the device is expected to have the following specs:

  • 1.3 GHz Scorpion processor (Snapdragon chipset)
  • Both CDMA and GSM 3G support
  • 4.3" screen WVGA (480x800)
  • Virtual only keyboard
  • Digital compass

Keep in mind that none of this information is rock solid proof that the Mondrian will be the powerhouse stated above. However, the evidence is sure piling up. Should this device be as it says, it could finally mark the age where a single phone has the ability to run on any carrier without the need to create multiple hardware versions. This sort of hardware could be the very thing that keeps Microsoft alive in the smartphone game. The Mondrian would basically be a superpowered HD2 running Windows Phone 7. Such a device is sure to excite the Windows Mobile community.

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While this device does look sweet this statement is not true:
"Should this device be as it says, it could finally mark the age where a single phone has the ability to run on any carrier without the need to create multiple hardware versions."

Nokia N8 will be the first to do that. Unless this is going to be out in the next month... which I doubt.

Raa said,
If it doesn't have a memory slot, don't want.

Sadly, that will be the same on all WP7 phones. Microsoft are trying hard to be the anti iPhone, yet aiming at the same customer base, and using a lot of the same limitations.

It's a confusing strategy to say the least

Raa said,
If it doesn't have a memory slot, don't want.

I remember reading that there will not be any limitations or specifications on slots and ports, but my memory isn't the best.

However, like mentioned above, apps cannot be installed from the memory slot. Apps can only be installed from the online app market.

Edited by JaykeBird, May 18 2010, 2:39am : Changing my wording...

Subject Delta said,

Sadly, that will be the same on all WP7 phones. Microsoft are trying hard to be the anti iPhone, yet aiming at the same customer base, and using a lot of the same limitations.

It's a confusing strategy to say the least

None of you apparently understand that as much success Android and WebOS have...they are still open-source and Linux deep down. Microsoft competes against Apple with PCs and now Windows Phones. They aren't copying restrictions, they said the approval process won't be bad like Apple's AppStore approvals... They are using the same customer base because they never went against Linux.

With Xbox Live games, incredible hub apps like internet radio for the Zune hub, and Facebook/Twitter/you-name-it integration, and a great selection of apps to come, they are going against Apple's iPhone OS, not Android or WebOS. Yes they do compete a bit with Android since it's so successful, but the app markets are totally different, one will feature Xbox Live and one not at all really...

thealexweb said,
Grrr it's got a massive screen but because its running Windows Phone so it'll have a tiny screen resolution, why?

Huh? Where's the logic in that?
Very few phones have >480*800 resolution.

codename.venice said,
Can we do a dual-boot on this phone with android? That will be the best of both worlds. But the question is, is this even possible?

Well, I'm sure xda-dev will figure something out. It works for current WM6.x devices (albeit some features in Android don't work correctly)

There's a drinking game hiding somewhere behind how long it takes for Android posts to show up in WP7 threads. It's pretty amazing.

*hugs his HTC Desire*
Android has completely won me over and I love my Desire. While Win7 Mobile looks nice and those specs sure sound sexy; Android and the Desire do everything (and more) I want from my pocket pc...because thats what it is.

It looks like the HD3 will arrive. I think the ability to a phone that can carry multiple networks is more and more important. It will lower costs to have both into one unit. Sure the carriers can spec out phones to their liking like Verizon did with the Incredible, Sprint with the EVO 4G and TMobile with the HD2. Microsoft knows the single UI experience is key and by not allowing Carriers to muck it up they can control the user experience very early on. Apple has done this and for the most part Android has as well. Yes you can customize the Android UI experience but at its initial offering its basic and common UI.

Verizon hsa the GSM SIM cards in some of their Blackberry's. I am not too update to date with Verizon but doesn't the phone perform both on both Networks if they wanted to? I heard they can make it work on GSM with the SIM card when you are out of the country? - Anyone knows for sure how this works?

Looks like Zune will make its debut to the rest of the World via Mobile Phones

Skwerl said,
Mondrian! Ha! That definitely fits with the Windows Phone 7 UI!

Definitely +1, I was thinking that was a vbery apt name for a WP7

Sounds good and I'm sure that there will be some awesome apps that will take advantage of the speed.

Having cdma and gsm would be a good step for consumer based phones.

For the enterprise world, the capability has been there for a little bit and more is to come. Intermec's CN50 supports cdma and gsm but you have to send it back to a service center to change it. It runs 2 processors and a software defined radio. It runs windows mobile 6.1.

Motorola is coming out with the ES400 and the MC65 which also are able to switch back and forth among gsm and cdma, but it is purely configurable, so you can change networks by just switching a setting in windows. I think it runs two processors also, but I'm not sure. They run windows mobile 6.5.3.

While these devices are not designed for common consumers, they are a life saver for companies that need rugged devices that can scan barcodes, capture signatures, and survive being dropped 6 foot onto concrete.

Farchord said,
That thing's gonna eat through batteries like I eat through a chocolate cake....

That's the only problem I find with my HTC desire that has a 1GHz processor. Battery is 1 day tops. Hope that phone has a big battery in it.

cashman said,

That's the only problem I find with my HTC desire that has a 1GHz processor. Battery is 1 day tops. Hope that phone has a big battery in it.

Have you gone past 6 charges yet, though? I've heard during the first few initial charges the battery dies quicker then normal.

Edited by The Teej, May 17 2010, 5:30pm :

The Teej said,

Have you gone past 6 charges yet, though? I've heard during the first few initial charges the battery dies quicker then normal.


Had it since it was released. Still pretty bad, but I probably am using it more than my laptop at the moment!!

The Teej said,

Have you gone past 6 charges yet, though? I've heard during the first few initial charges the battery dies quicker then normal.


I've heard that as well, waiting for mine to get better lol

daniel_rh said,
No physical keyboard :-(

If this HTC model doesn't have one then you know for sure another one will. Or some model from samsung, or LG, or toshiba or whoever else.

alfaaqua said,

+1

On my HTC Desire I can type quicker with the touch keyboard than I could on any other phone before it. It is quite amazing and needs to be tried to be believed.

Singh400 said,
-1

most phones will have no hardware keyboard anymore. i think this has to do alot with hardware malfunction and the cost of repairs.

Edited by fixxxer2014, May 17 2010, 4:30pm :

cashman said,

On my HTC Desire I can type quicker with the touch keyboard than I could on any other phone before it. It is quite amazing and needs to be tried to be believed.

Yeah same with my desire too, I was a bit skeptical of an OSK but I can type really fast on it, the auto-correction is -very- good.

daniel_rh said,
No physical keyboard :-(

There was a Dell model announced on here a few weeks ago with physical keyboard - they will be coming from all manufacturers.

cashman said,

On my HTC Desire I can type quicker with the touch keyboard than I could on any other phone before it. It is quite amazing and needs to be tried to be believed.

I've got the Hero, and at first I was like, no real keyboard, ehh. Now I can type faster on it than i could on a physical one, at least I think i can... And there is built in speech to text, so if you cant type, just speak.

Edited by shakey, May 17 2010, 11:19pm :

Im glad most of you have gotten use to on screen keyboard but 90% of the population can still write better/faster on a physicial keyboard (software help such as autocomplete do not count)

Liaqat_ali said,
just when I almost made up my mind to buy HTC Desire.

Same here !! I made up my mind yesterday when I read tha Orange isn't messing too much with the ROM.
Microsoft should just hurry up and give us some Win Phone 7.

Kwanza said,

Same here !! I made up my mind yesterday when I read tha Orange isn't messing too much with the ROM.
Microsoft should just hurry up and give us some Win Phone 7.

Doesn't matter how much they mess with the ROM just get over to XDA and use a custom one, better speed, looks and no crap from the operator

Well, I really hope HTC (and to a lesser extent, Microsoft) make it so. Looks awesome, and I'm glad I'm not in a contract right now.

laz45 said,
The only question left is can we put android on this thing?
LoL. I'm sure someone will port it over eventually, but you can always get the EVO 4G if that's how you feel.

yardman said,

Why would you want to do that

Native code, removable SD card support, fully open market, larger installed base, shall I go on?

Asmodai said,

Native code, removable SD card support, fully open market, larger installed base, shall I go on?


Eh? All these things existed before Android.
I think perhaps you got your terms confused between "native code" and "open" code. Windows Mobile always was native code.

Hackersoft MS MVP said,

Eh? All these things existed before Android.
I think perhaps you got your terms confused between "native code" and "open" code. Windows Mobile always was native code.

Thank you.

dead man said,

I thought the only question left was will it blend?

+1 My friend's dad has an Apple store, and they legitimately got one of the blenders and blended an iPad.

Hackersoft MS MVP said,

Eh? All these things existed before Android.
I think perhaps you got your terms confused between "native code" and "open" code. Windows Mobile always was native code.

Yes they existed in WM but they will disappear with WP7.
You are aware that WP7 will not allow removable storage, aren't' you?
This is the main, although not the only one, reason why I decided to move to Android when my HD2 will be retired.

smartin0115 said,

+1 My friend's dad has an Apple store, and they legitimately got one of the blenders and blended an iPad.


Ok, first of all your friend's dad does not have an Apple store cause Apple store is corporate and not franchise. Second, if your friend's dad did blend an iPad just for fun, he must be a freaking retard.

Edited by Cryptomatoes, May 17 2010, 4:22pm :

Hackersoft MS MVP said,

Eh? All these things existed before Android.
I think perhaps you got your terms confused between "native code" and "open" code. Windows Mobile always was native code.

I never said Android did these things FIRST but the question was why would you want to put Android on a device that is already running windows phone 7. I did not get "native code" and "open" confused. Windows Phone 7 does NOT allow developers the ability to compile applications to native code, to quote Verizon marketing "Droid does". You are correct PRIOR versions of Windows Phone do allow native code development but we are talking Windows Phone 7 here and it does NOT.

Hackersoft MS MVP said,

Eh? All these things existed before Android.
I think perhaps you got your terms confused between "native code" and "open" code. Windows Mobile always was native code.

Yeh Windows Mobile did Windows Phone can't install native apps, one of the many lost features.

laz45 said,
The only question left is can we put android on this thing?

Jealous much? android this android that, it's laggy as hell on the droid and inconsistency design menu everywhere. I don't want that iphone-wannabe on this spec phone.

laz45 said,
The only question left is can we put android on this thing?

how about you buy an android phone instead of a wm7 phone and put android on it so you can tell people its not an android phone but has android and think anyone cares.

Asmodai said,

Native code, removable SD card support, fully open market, larger installed base, shall I go on?

Technically Android apps aren't native code, they are java applications

vice le von said,

Jealous much? android this android that, it's laggy as hell on the droid and inconsistency design menu everywhere. I don't want that iphone-wannabe on this spec phone.

It seems that you really don't like Android. Personally I love it, I'm using an HTC Desire, one of the best Android phones available.

Edited by neo158, May 17 2010, 8:01pm :

neo158 said,

It seems that you really don't like Android. Personally I love it, I'm using an HTC Desire, one of the best Android phones available.

Its not a matter of jelousy and hatred. Why mention android in the first place? If you want android get an android phone. Simple (albeit, people somehow fail to grasp this). There is a vast selection and most probably HTC will be releasing a 1.3ghz version pretty soon after they release this

vice le von said,

Jealous much? android this android that, it's laggy as hell on the droid and inconsistency design menu everywhere. I don't want that iphone-wannabe on this spec phone.

+1
I'm tired of people acting like Android is this godsend. For a modern OS it sure is laggy and inconsistent. I wish Google would just call it Android OS beta.

vice le von said,

Jealous much? android this android that, it's laggy as hell on the droid and inconsistency design menu everywhere. I don't want that iphone-wannabe on this spec phone.

iPhone wannabe? nope. Android is designed far more elegantly than the iPhone OS. Push notifications vs integrated notification system (any application can deliver a notification very easily), App drawer all apps listed in alphabetical order vs chucking them on an endless number of home screens in install order rather than alphabetical order, integrated notification system that delivers an alert then leaves it hidden. You can then take action any time (and close them all at once) via a pulldown menu, vs the iPhone system where they pop up, irritate you, interrupt what you are doing, and refuse to go away till you dismiss them (and you have to dismiss one by one as well).

The Droid is the unfortunate result of putting a high resolution screen with a slow processor and inadequate amount of ram. That is the fault of the manufacturer, not the OS. If you want to see what Android can do, use a Nexus One, HTC Desire, or one of the next up and coming HTC Android devices.

asdavis10 said,

+1
I'm tired of people acting like Android is this godsend. For a modern OS it sure is laggy and inconsistent. I wish Google would just call it Android OS beta.

I agree on the godsend part. It definitely isn't a godsend and I'm surprised anybody who used Android would be a Android fanboy... I didn't think the two mixed... I thought it was a PC and Mac thing... Linux guys never act like this but they do act immature sometimes when they help you figure out their complex OS.

I'm tired of this. Go get an Android phone if you want to so badly. Stop complaining and saying this should run Android because it isn't designed for it.

Wow so my topic with a genuine question gets closed with barely any posts yet the mods here allow this flamewar to go on.

NICE GOING GUYS, YOU ARE SO BRILLIANT /s.

Asmodai said,

I never said Android did these things FIRST but the question was why would you want to put Android on a device that is already running windows phone 7. I did not get "native code" and "open" confused. Windows Phone 7 does NOT allow developers the ability to compile applications to native code, to quote Verizon marketing "Droid does". You are correct PRIOR versions of Windows Phone do allow native code development but we are talking Windows Phone 7 here and it does NOT.

"native" code implies code that is compiled for the processor - which is true for WM and WP7. If you're referring to accessing the Win32API then that's a very different thing - and the abstraction from it in WP7 isn't necessarily a bad thing!

Subject Delta said,

Technically Android apps aren't native code, they are java applications

Technically Android apps are not Java because they don't use a JVM instead they use a Dalvik VM. While you are correct though that that code is not native it is not what I was referring to. There is in fact an additional Android Native Development Kit that allows developers to write native code such as in C for the platform. No similar native code option exists in Windows Phone 7.