IE 10 preview coming to Windows 7 in November

We all have been waiting for Microsoft to give us an update on when IE 10 would be coming to Windows 7 and Microsoft has finally broken the silence on the topic and it will arrive in November. Microsoft has been touting IE10 on the "preview" editions of Windows 8 for many months but has been quiet on Windows 7 up until today.

A preview edition of the platform will launch in mid-November and that's about all that we know, as of now. Microsoft has stated the following:

As we approach general availability of Windows 8, we want to provide an update on IE10 for Windows 7. We will release a preview of IE10 on Windows 7 in mid-November, with final availability to follow as we collect developer and customer feedback.

The browsers wars have been heating up with Chrome making solid grounds in the past few years on Microsoft and with Firefox releasing a new version every other week, Microsoft knows that IE10 must deliver on all fronts and provide end users with the best browsing experience on the web if it wants to stem the market-share bleeding. 

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I guess MS must make it ready for another kernel in Windows 7, test it, there might be some issues with this... that's why the preview.

But... if you guys would like to have IE10 already, why don't just use Windows 8? Or just wait 1-2 months for IE10 on Win7.

Besides some modifications, I don't really see the use of IE10 on Windows 7.
Brings me to... what's really different between IE9 and IE10, besides the 'latest and greatest' IE version?

kiddingguy said,
Besides some modifications, I don't really see the use of IE10 on Windows 7.
Brings me to... what's really different between IE9 and IE10, besides the 'latest and greatest' IE version?

Better compatibility with the latest standards!? IE10 has better support for HTML5 and CSS3 than IE9 does!

I quite enjoy reading about IE, which is strange cos I stopped using it in mid-2005.

I've stopped using IE hacks for HTML. Users with IE version < 9 gets sent to browserchoice.eu and so far zero complaints.

Frankenchrist said,
I quite enjoy reading about IE, which is strange cos I stopped using it in mid-2005.

I've stopped using IE hacks for HTML. Users with IE version < 9 gets sent to browserchoice.eu and so far zero complaints.

IE has come a long way since 2005. Might be worth trying it again.

So, let me get this right, when Windows 8 goes on general sale on October 26th this will include the full release edition of IE10... users of Windows 7 however will have to wait a further month and then only get a "preview" release of IE10??? ...if a full release is available with Win8, why can't a full release of IE10 be made available to Win7 users in Nov instead of another "preview"?? ...or have I missed something? ...is the version of IE10 included with Win8 only a preview version as well?

GreatMarkO said,
So, let me get this right, when Windows 8 goes on general sale on October 26th this will include the full release edition of IE10... users of Windows 7 however will have to wait a further month and then only get a "preview" release of IE10??? ...if a full release is available with Win8, why can't a full release of IE10 be made available to Win7 users in Nov instead of another "preview"?? ...or have I missed something? ...is the version of IE10 included with Win8 only a preview version as well?

Its what happens when you tie a program that is suppose to be just a program into huge components of the operation system...

togermano said,

Its what happens when you tie a program that is suppose to be just a program into huge components of the operation system...

Yeah, you're right - same with Apple and Safari 6 not being available to Windows users due to its tight integration to iOS

Sub_Zero_Alchemist said,
Really, Nov? why even bother. MS really drop the ball on this.

It's just a few days after Windows 8 GA ¬¬ .......

I had assumed that Win7 was just excluded from the Preview program and once Win8 (thus IE10) was officially launched (Oct. 26th) IE10 would be available for download for Win7 as well. To hear we have to wait until next month just to get a PREVIEW on Win7 is very disappointing.

Asmodai said,
I had assumed that Win7 was just excluded from the Preview program and once Win8 (thus IE10) was officially launched (Oct. 26th) IE10 would be available for download for Win7 as well. To hear we have to wait until next month just to get a PREVIEW on Win7 is very disappointing.

Yet you couldn't assume that MS put most of its available developing manpower on Windows 8. And that Win7 hasn't seen any improvements besides security fixes and some minor adjustments for months already wasn't a good indicator aswell?

Shadowzz said,

Yet you couldn't assume that MS put most of its available developing manpower on Windows 8. And that Win7 hasn't seen any improvements besides security fixes and some minor adjustments for months already wasn't a good indicator aswell?

There is very little difference between Windows 8 Desktop mode and Windows 7. MS continuously stresses this to set aside fears of compatibility issues. Furthermore IE10 on Win8 went gold months ago in order for them to press the disks and fill the supply chain. IE10 on Win7 would require none of that as it would be a download only and thus they could work on it right up to launch for whatever little differences there may be (if any) between Windows 8 Desktop mode and Windows 7.

Finally! But why a preview? And does Microsoft really listen to "customer feedback" anymore? From what I've seen and read, no.

Still, I'm looking forward to IE10!

A340600 said,
Finally! But why a preview? And does Microsoft really listen to "customer feedback" anymore? From what I've seen and read, no.

Still, I'm looking forward to IE10!

The reason is simple. It's not RTM ready on the old Kernel, so they'll offer the preview and get people to sign up for the CEIP to collect telemetry data on the application to hammer out some of the edge case bugs.
THEN, they'll be able to offer an RTM release. It's not about users voicing feedback, it's about the application feeding back its health.

A340600 said,
Finally! But why a preview? And does Microsoft really listen to "customer feedback" anymore? From what I've seen and read, no.

Still, I'm looking forward to IE10!


MS has always and will always listen to user feedback. With IE10 there is absolutely NO need for user feedback except application performance feedback.
MS has always been very open with developer discussions on their OS. This wont change.
Or are you still mad because of Modern?

Shadowzz said,

MS has always and will always listen to user feedback. With IE10 there is absolutely NO need for user feedback except application performance feedback.
MS has always been very open with developer discussions on their OS. This wont change.
Or are you still mad because of Modern?

METRO! I like Metro!

No I meant user feedback as in taking input from users about a feature or a suggested change. From what I have read, from people like Paul Thurrott, Microsoft now ships almost finished products.

deadonthefloor said,

The reason is simple. It's not RTM ready on the old Kernel, so they'll offer the preview and get people to sign up for the CEIP to collect telemetry data on the application to hammer out some of the edge case bugs.
THEN, they'll be able to offer an RTM release. It's not about users voicing feedback, it's about the application feeding back its health.

I see. I thought "customer feedback" meant user feedback, as in suggestions from users about this and that.

A340600 said,
I see. I thought "customer feedback" meant user feedback, as in suggestions from users about this and that.

Microsoft have a cycle of feedback, dictate.
repeat.

guess which part of the cycle we're in.

torrentthief said,
WHAT! this is awful, i thought the rtm would be out on 26th with windows 8 being released in shops. Not impressed microsoft!

The RTM version of IE10 on Windows 8 is already in Windows 8, and yes, will be available on October 26th in shops.

The RTM version of IE10 on Windows 7? No idea why you thought that was a priority to be released in October.

rfirth said,

The RTM version of IE10 on Windows 8 is already in Windows 8, and yes, will be available on October 26th in shops.

The RTM version of IE10 on Windows 7? No idea why you thought that was a priority to be released in October.

Yes i obviously mean't win7 not windows 8. I thought that it would be released in october because Win8 went rtm months ago, it makes sense for win7 and win8 to both have ie10 on the same day. It would be easier for web developers that way.

torrentthief said,

Yes i obviously mean't win7 not windows 8. I thought that it would be released in october because Win8 went rtm months ago, it makes sense for win7 and win8 to both have ie10 on the same day. It would be easier for web developers that way.

While it would make sense there were people already months ago moaning that MS was going to release IE10 for Win7 without any further testing and that it'd be broken and so on. So now MS does the right thing, obviously IE10 on Win8 had the teams priority so they had to hold off on Win7 testing till after. Now they'll release this RC and if it's fine it'll go final soon after, I don't expect a big delay between RC and Final for this actually.

I don't like that this isn't available for Vista, as vista is virtually the same as 7, it's just not as new. It may not matter, as I am probably updating to win8, but, I think it's kind of a crappy move anyway.

Invizibleyez said,
I don't like that this isn't available for Vista, as vista is virtually the same as 7, it's just not as new. It may not matter, as I am probably updating to win8, but, I think it's kind of a crappy move anyway.

Yep, it is bad news for web developers to not release IE10 on vista

Invizibleyez said,
I don't like that this isn't available for Vista, as vista is virtually the same as 7, it's just not as new. It may not matter, as I am probably updating to win8, but, I think it's kind of a crappy move anyway.

Just upgrade to Windows 7.

Vista won't do you any good. Consider this one as an example.

Invizibleyez said,
I don't like that this isn't available for Vista, as vista is virtually the same as 7, it's just not as new. It may not matter, as I am probably updating to win8, but, I think it's kind of a crappy move anyway.
LOL virtually the same. Nope, they are not.

Invizibleyez said,
I don't like that this isn't available for Vista, as vista is virtually the same as 7

Wrong. The reason its not available for vista is because vista lacks WDDM 1.1 (WDDM 1.1 being introduced in Win7 and 1.2 being introduced in Win8)

nub said,

Wrong. The reason its not available for vista is because vista lacks WDDM 1.1 (WDDM 1.1 being introduced in Win7 and 1.2 being introduced in Win8)

they could easily backport it, so that isn't a valid reason. They backported win7 technologies to vista sp2.

torrentthief said,
they could easily backport it, so that isn't a valid reason. They backported win7 technologies to vista sp2.

Vista's been out of mainstream support since April, security related updates only.

torrentthief said,

they could easily backport it, so that isn't a valid reason. They backported win7 technologies to vista sp2.

Windows Vista is currently sitting at 6% usage share. Is it really worth it?

torrentthief said,

Yep, it is bad news for web developers to not release IE10 on vista


IE is bad for web developers no matter what version.

fobban said,

IE is bad for web developers no matter what version.

It's the stock OS web browser, just like every OS on the market has a stock browser.

The stock browser is always going to be the only browser the OS maker can provide support for to end users. This means an enormous chunk of users will continue to use the stock browser, just like a huge chunk of Apple users stick to Safari. Microsoft cannot provide support for Chrome, nor can Apple.

As integration between web technologies and the OS continues into the future, this pairing is NOT going to magically become less significant. If anything, Windows and IE will, by necessity this time, become more intertwined.

As the web becomes a platform, if Microsoft continues to be a major player in the platform market, supporting Microsoft's web client will remain a priority for web developers.

The whining and betching and crying is because developers think it's somehow always a better idea to abandon everything and start over again from scratch (change browsers, change OS, ditch desktops, whatever necessary) rather than embrace, improve, extend, and take ownership.

Ironically, many of the same developers still have a hard on for Java. Talk about a kludge.

Invizibleyez said,
I don't like that this isn't available for Vista, as vista is virtually the same as 7, it's just not as new. It may not matter, as I am probably updating to win8, but, I think it's kind of a crappy move anyway.

IE9 wasnt available on XP, why should IE10 be available for Vista?

TCLN Ryster said,

IE9 wasnt available on XP, why should IE10 be available for Vista?

The only reason anybody ever wants anything for an old OS is because it's their OS.

"Why isn't it coming to Vista?" == "I'm using Vista."

Oops, double posted because internet was crapping out and I didn't think my earlier comment was saved.

IGNORE THIS

Heres a simple answer for you.
XP used ie 6, 7 and 8.
Vista used 8 and 9. See whats missing here?

[edit]oops, nevermind, vista started with 7, point null.

TCLN Ryster said,

IE9 wasnt available on XP, why should IE10 be available for Vista?

Edited by Invizibleyez, Oct 17 2012, 7:59pm :

I'll take that argument one step further. Vista is only at 6% marketshare, which is clearly insignificant says nub, so, why not just give us a free OS upgrade since it was neglected prematurely?

nub said,
Windows Vista is currently sitting at 6% usage share. Is it really worth it?

fobban said,

IE is bad for web developers no matter what version.

I'm a web dev and disagree. It's not 2001 any more you know. IE10 is great.

NoClipMode said,

I'm a web dev and disagree. It's not 2001 any more you know. IE10 is great.


Even in 2001, at the time no other browser matched IE6 at release day in terms of functionality and standards compliance.

torrentthief said,

they could easily backport it, so that isn't a valid reason. They backported win7 technologies to vista sp2.


Backport it? Then they have a bucketload of work on their hands. They cannot change the inner workings of a launched OS. They wont.
Any changes from Win7 that even made it back to Vista had no impact on any backwards compatibility. And most (almost all) changes Vista had thanks to Win7, where optimizations. Not kernel overhauls.
Win7 kernel differs incredibly much Vista that it is actually NT7.0
The only reason Win7 had a kernel version of 6.1 and Win8 of 6.2, is due to backwards compatibility. And mainly so for drivers and stupid developers that tied their software to the kernel version(you'd be surprised how many developers still do so). Other then that, we're at NT8.0 if MS would've stuck to the old NT version numbering.

finally, I just don't like how they change the scroll bars in IE10 to be like Windows 8, yet on windows 7 they aren't the native themed ones... just looks a bit out of place

neufuse said,
finally, I just don't like how they change the scroll bars in IE10 to be like Windows 8, yet on windows 7 they aren't the native themed ones... just looks a bit out of place

What do you mean? IE on Windows 7 has scrollbar that looks exactly like Aero scrollbars.

Nazmus Shakib Khandaker said,

What do you mean? IE on Windows 7 has scrollbar that looks exactly like Aero scrollbars.

I think he mixed up his are's and aren'ts

Nazmus Shakib Khandaker said,

What do you mean? IE on Windows 7 has scrollbar that looks exactly like Aero scrollbars.


the latest IE10 preview on windows 7 for me does not have the native aero theme scrollbars, they are the flat gray ones that you get in windows 8

I know this is a windows 8 screen shot, but in windows 7 IE10 has the exact same scrollbars for me on all my systems

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...ng/300px-IE10_Wikipedia.png

neufuse said,


the latest IE10 preview on windows 7 for me does not have the native aero theme scrollbars, they are the flat gray ones that you get in windows 8

I know this is a windows 8 screen shot, but in windows 7 IE10 has the exact same scrollbars for me on all my systems

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...ng/300px-IE10_Wikipedia.png

So you are already using software that won't be available until next month? To my knowledge, the only version of IE10 available is the Windows 8 version, so it would make sense that it uses the Windows 8 style UI.