IE 9 beta leaks to the web [Update]

A new build of IE 9 has leaked to the web and shows a few tweaks and improvements. The build, version 9.0.8027.6000, began circulating the web over the weekend on your favorite sharing sites and it appears that it was compiled on November 19th. 

The leak does include a few new features such as showing transfer speed in the download manager without having to overlay your mouse on the download. According to our forum, members who have downloaded the beta are saying that its a decent improvement over previous betas but it still has its flaws. Some are experiencing issues where webpages will hang for a considerable amount of time. 

As with any beta, install at your own risk as this is not a public release. The few improvements do show a promising sign that Microsoft is listening to user feedback but this beta is primarily a core component update rather than any new eye candy. 

Thanks for the tip R27  

[Update] Microsoft contacted us with a small blub about this leak, "Microsoft has not released this Internet Explorer 9 code to the public and we want to caution consumers and businesses that downloading software (including workarounds) from a non-genuine source can pose risks to their environment. "

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I would say a release candidate but considering how slow it is and how often it crashes then this build isnt it.

Agreed. Seems better than the public beta but still crashes when you close a tab halfway through loading. Pretty big crash bug. RC soon though

Uninstalled this Realised that the installer reads Windows Internet Explorer 9 Release Canditate. You can confirm by navigating to the Updates list.

Hey, I got 15MB update for Internet Explorer 9 Beta, and additional 1.8MB update for IE9 Feedback on Windows Update. So, It's official.

I don't see how the UI doesnt fit into Windows 7. The back button doesnt surely match Windows Explorer but who knows, in Windows 8 it might. Metro has nothing to do with IE9, only the Zune app.

Riva said,
I don't see how the UI doesnt fit into Windows 7. The back button doesnt surely match Windows Explorer but who knows, in Windows 8 it might. Metro has nothing to do with IE9, only the Zune app.

It has everything to do with Metro...

http://imgur.com/1yF7x.jpg

Riva said,
I don't see how the UI doesnt fit into Windows 7. The back button doesnt surely match Windows Explorer but who knows, in Windows 8 it might. Metro has nothing to do with IE9, only the Zune app.

Who are you to decide what Metro is related to? The Zune app was one of the first to adopt it, but that does not mean IE 9 can't.

Goldenlotus said,

It has everything to do with Metro...

http://imgur.com/1yF7x.jpg

If this was metro then the tabs shouldn't be tabs but titles on a flat surface. The rendering surface and shell shouldn't have any visible separation, there should be no drop-downs menus or panels unless its a context menu. Correct me if I am wrong.

Installer is like in Opera 11, but it takes more than 100 times longer to install... Opera 11 installs in a second or two. IE9 takes forever to install.

To the "Back Button". I do believe that is they're actual design, not a cut off circle. From what I was told they will be integrating something below it that will allow real-time blogging.

"Back" button is a big big Design flaw......it is just destroying the whole interface......and as Metro as it may be, it does not seem to be going well with other elements on screen.....and sooner Microsoft realises that....the better!

Favorites chrome isn't as attractive in this internal beta, but maybe that's just because it's internal. Show Desktop Gadget bug still present.

Way way WAY less crashy though. Very pleased I updated to this from the original Beta. Highly recommended to anyone that wants IE9 for everyday use while it's still in the beta phase.

Update is being deliver through Windows Update now.

Design is in the eye of the beholder. Style guide's are out of date mang. I think IE9 is great. For my personal tastes, I would like a smaller back button but I can't say it would make any difference whatsoever in a general sense. Just my preference.

did they fix the problem where if you release click over links, it opens the links? in real it should never open links when you lift the mouse up after you've dragged the cursor over the link.

Javascript performance is slow in this beta compared to the PP7. I am guessing the shell needs some optimisation

I really dont like the back buttion. In fact in some ways the ui looks to sparten no way to get the menu bar back, PS ie9 is nothing to do with metro.

Are you all serious with the back button? I'm sure if they change it then another bunch of people will complain about nothing so why not spare us all the useless comments and say something more useful such as what has changed and improved. The back button has been like that since beta 1, looks just fine and nobody is changing it - get over it.

I was very underwhelmed by the public IE9 beta. The new interface looks kinda nice (some of the buttons could use some attention to padding and margins). But I still prefer Firefox and Chrome more. I even like Safari for Windows more than IE9.

neo158 said,
Has anyone had issues loading neowin without compatibility mode being enabled?

I've never needed Compatibility Mode for Neowin (in the beta or any of the Platform Previews - not even the first one). There are some sites I still need it for (bestbuy.com and some, but not all, Facebook sites), but the number is starting to drop.

PGHammer said,

I've never needed Compatibility Mode for Neowin (in the beta or any of the Platform Previews - not even the first one). There are some sites I still need it for (bestbuy.com and some, but not all, Facebook sites), but the number is starting to drop.

I've never had to use compatibility mode for neowin until I was getting constant crashes with this build of IE9 when on the neowin homepage, did you upgrade from the beta to this version or uninstall the beta first?

I've gone back to the "beta" for now.

Oddly this build identifies itself as an RC when you go to remove it.

Edited by neo158, Nov 23 2010, 5:51pm :

Not a fan of the chopped off back button either though I agree it's entirely aesthetic.
Either way I noticed when I uninstalled this that it was listed as Internet Explorer 9 Release Candidate so I guess this is pretty much what we'll get UI wise.... hey ho

Borix said,
MS should integrate the address/search box with the active tab and fire their UI designer(s) asap!

I highly doubt the UI designer(s) were at fault. They were probably constrained by a large number of system/design parameters...and not given much leeway. I do think they will add the option back to customize/display the tab bar on its own.

Borix said,
MS should integrate the address/search box with the active tab and fire their UI designer(s) asap!

I agree. Talk about Chrome features growing on you.

These times when I'm checking the state of Firefox 4, I install the Omnibox extension on it even before caring for adblockers. Which is saying something, given how the web looks.

Northgrove said,

I agree. Talk about Chrome features growing on you.

These times when I'm checking the state of Firefox 4, I install the Omnibox extension on it even before caring for adblockers. Which is saying something, given how the web looks.

I think you mean "Omnibar".

Night Prowler said,
Some sites are not validating IE9 as an accepted browser. Is there a way to mask IE9 as IE8?

Just click the compatability button? That puts it in IE8 mode

Lamp0 said,

apart from it being unnecessarily GIANT.

It may be a usability or perception thing, as the back button is likely the single most commonly used button in any browser's chrome

Lamp0 said,
The back button works fine, but why is it always giant? I don't understand the reason for that design.

I dunno, I don't think the size matters but it could be so it sticks out more? Also making it bigger makes it easier to move to and click quick without missing it, larger target area, if that matters.

GP007 said,

I dunno, I don't think the size matters but it could be so it sticks out more? Also making it bigger makes it easier to move to and click quick without missing it, larger target area, if that matters.

yea... I don't really buy that though. I mean if someone can't see it at a normal size, then they need glasses. And if someone has trouble clicking it then they'll have issues using everything else in the browser and on the web.

Lamp0 said,
The back button works fine, but why is it always giant? I don't understand the reason for that design.
I agree the back button bigger than the forward one is stupid. I also don't like the fact that they put the tabs on the same toolbar as the address bar, but I guess the performance makes up for the stupid UI.

I don't understand why it being the most used button means it needs to be larger.

Seems to me like a silly novelty design... which looks pretty goofy.


Lamp0 said,
I don't understand why it being the most used button means it needs to be larger.

Seems to me like a silly novelty design... which looks pretty goofy.



It follows a very old and simple design paradigm: elements that are far away should be larger so that they can be hit faster. It is called Fitts's Law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitts's_law

Lamp0 said,
The back button works fine, but why is it always giant? I don't understand the reason for that design.

The same reason why in Firefox 4, the back button is a circle while the forward button is a rounded rectangle. Besides the back button being used more, it makes the UI of the toolbar look like more than just a row of generic command buttons that fade into background of the UI, and instead have it stand out more.

Firefox 4 btw also copies IE's positioning of the stop and reload button (mentioned below). This is partly for the same reason as above, to make the UI less like some generic design, and partly because putting the stop/reload on the address bar gives it visual meaning by tying the command to the address thats shown there.

IE9 still has UI problems and could be a lot better, but its also much nicer and cleaner than IE8

brianshapiro said,

IE9 still has UI problems and could be a lot better, but its also much nicer and cleaner than IE8

I agree with that! For instance they should get rid of the protocol shown in the address bar. Nobody needs this anymore. A simple color or icon to indicate a site uses httpS should be enough, IMO. They should also combine the stop and reload buttons like Google has done it. This would save a lot of screen real estate on the Tab bar. Furthermore the menus and sidebars still look very outdated.

It's bigger so that it's easier to hit with a touch screen. I found this out yesterday when I (finally) managed to play with Windows 7 using touch only.

Frame said,
Microsoft products are leaking all over the place. Someone go get sponge.

Not really, I think it used to be way worse, not that they really care if this got out, it's just a updated version of the beta engine wise, there really isn't any UI changes.

TCLN Ryster said,

Nor with the reply button here on Neowin
The problem with the reply button here on Neowin is that it's too easy to accidently use the wrong box after hitting the reply button, if you're replying to the last post on the page.

Relativity_17 said,
Nothing wrong with the Back button.

There are currently two groups of IE9 users:
1./ First group of amateurs do not understand nothing about UI design and word consistency tells nothing to them. Those are the ones who are masturbating abou IE9 UI - worst looking browser on the world...
2./ Second group of mature, more inteligent users see that IE9 is one big failure from UI standpoint almost in every aspect. Entire UI do not fit into Vista nor Seven with unconsistent buttons which looks like some nasty dejavu of first Longhorn 2005 builds. Huge back button, cut off on bottom is specially lame. Those buttons should look like current IE8 buttons, which look the same like IE7 and all of them blend with buttons of new Explorer file manager from Vista/Seven. Also tabs are beside adress bar - another nonsense and under tabs is ugly white line what is another UI fiasco and we have also new font rendering - totally broken, but MS developers will tell you that this is OK, it is a new, great way how to render fonts, so we all better STFU, because they cannot be wrong. I better stop here... I will not criticize download manager, ugly command bar icons and menus, old ugly personal toolbar and entire amateurish look and feel. It's only a beta

6205 said,

There are currently two groups of IE9 users:
1./ First group of amateurs do not understand nothing about UI design and word consistency tells nothing to them. Those are the ones who are masturbating abou IE9 UI - worst looking browser on the world...
2./ Second group of mature, more inteligent users see that IE9 is one big failure from UI standpoint almost in every aspect. Entire UI do not fit into Vista nor Seven with unconsistent buttons which looks like some nasty dejavu of first Longhorn 2005 builds. Huge back button, cut off on bottom is specially lame. Those buttons should look like current IE8 buttons, which look the same like IE7 and all of them blend with buttons of new Explorer file manager from Vista/Seven. Also tabs are beside adress bar - another nonsense and under tabs is ugly white line what is another UI fiasco and we have also new font rendering - totally broken, but MS developers will tell you that this is OK, it is a new, great way how to render fonts, so we all better STFU, because they cannot be wrong. I better stop here... I will not criticize download manager, ugly command bar icons and menus, old ugly personal toolbar and entire amateurish look and feel. It's only a beta


Whatever. Must be nice being smarter then others. Hope it doesn't go to your head.

6205 said,

There are currently two groups of IE9 users:
1./ First group of amateurs do not understand nothing about UI design and word consistency tells nothing to them. Those are the ones who are masturbating abou IE9 UI - worst looking browser on the world...
Entire UI do not fit into Vista nor Seven with unconsistent buttons which looks like some nasty dejavu of first Longhorn 2005 builds. Huge back button, cut off on bottom is specially lame.


I think it fits in very well. The new back button has the same size as the Start orb and the same margin to the left edge of the screen. The new icon uses the same language as the new Windows 7 apps icons (Explorer, Control Panel, Calculator ...) and it matches the ideas behind the Zune/Metro design.
I especially like the radical approach of making the address bar less important. Because it is less important. You don't need to see everything in it. Make it small so you can see the domain and done! Welcome to the 21st century

I think some people should be more open minded.

Relativity_17 said,
Nothing wrong with the Back button.

It breaks consistency with the rest of the operating system. This is the back button design Microsoft used for Longhorn concepts, but got rid of in the final version of Windows Vista and it didn't make a return in Windows 7 either. So why suddenly in Internet Explorer 9? It makes little sense.

And people ask themselves why developers on Windows use their own custom themes all the time... Here's why: The learned it from Microsoft.

6205 said,

There are currently two groups of IE9 users:
1./ First group of amateurs do not understand nothing about UI design and word consistency tells nothing to them. Those are the ones who are masturbating abou IE9 UI - worst looking browser on the world...
2./ Second group of mature, more inteligent users see that IE9 is one big failure from UI standpoint almost in every aspect. Entire UI do not fit into Vista nor Seven with unconsistent buttons which looks like some nasty dejavu of first Longhorn 2005 builds. Huge back button, cut off on bottom is specially lame. Those buttons should look like current IE8 buttons, which look the same like IE7 and all of them blend with buttons of new Explorer file manager from Vista/Seven. Also tabs are beside adress bar - another nonsense and under tabs is ugly white line what is another UI fiasco and we have also new font rendering - totally broken, but MS developers will tell you that this is OK, it is a new, great way how to render fonts, so we all better STFU, because they cannot be wrong. I better stop here... I will not criticize download manager, ugly command bar icons and menus, old ugly personal toolbar and entire amateurish look and feel. It's only a beta


You forgot

3./ Third group which thinks they know alot but actually know alot less than the second group and even the first group. Simply because they think the other two groups are wrong when they themselfes are problably the most incorrect of the lot.

A example can be found in the mirror.

aftas said,

You forgot

3./ Third group which thinks they know alot but actually know alot less than the second group and even the first group. Simply because they think the other two groups are wrong when they themselfes are problably the most incorrect of the lot.

A example can be found in the mirror.

Win.

6205 said,

There are currently two groups of IE9 users:
1./ First group of amateurs do not understand nothing about UI design and word consistency tells nothing to them. Those are the ones who are masturbating abou IE9 UI - worst looking browser on the world...
2./ Second group of mature, more inteligent users see that IE9 is one big failure from UI standpoint almost in every aspect. Entire UI do not fit into Vista nor Seven with unconsistent buttons which looks like some nasty dejavu of first Longhorn 2005 builds. Huge back button, cut off on bottom is specially lame. Those buttons should look like current IE8 buttons, which look the same like IE7 and all of them blend with buttons of new Explorer file manager from Vista/Seven. Also tabs are beside adress bar - another nonsense and under tabs is ugly white line what is another UI fiasco and we have also new font rendering - totally broken, but MS developers will tell you that this is OK, it is a new, great way how to render fonts, so we all better STFU, because they cannot be wrong. I better stop here... I will not criticize download manager, ugly command bar icons and menus, old ugly personal toolbar and entire amateurish look and feel. It's only a beta

So I, by your logic know nothing of UI design for liking the IE9 beta's UI. I admit to that. I really don't know anything about UI designing. But I do know a little something about correct grammar which is something you seem to have failed to grasp lol

Also I don't see the whole big push behind consistency. Mac crap pulls it off perfectly I will admit...but its also perfectly boring because everything looks basically the same.

6205 said,

There are currently two groups of IE9 users:
1./ First group of amateurs do not understand nothing about UI design and word consistency tells nothing to them. Those are the ones who are masturbating abou IE9 UI - worst looking browser on the world...
2./ Second group of mature, more inteligent users see that IE9 is one big failure from UI standpoint almost in every aspect. Entire UI do not fit into Vista nor Seven with unconsistent buttons which looks like some nasty dejavu of first Longhorn 2005 builds. Huge back button, cut off on bottom is specially lame. Those buttons should look like current IE8 buttons, which look the same like IE7 and all of them blend with buttons of new Explorer file manager from Vista/Seven. Also tabs are beside adress bar - another nonsense and under tabs is ugly white line what is another UI fiasco and we have also new font rendering - totally broken, but MS developers will tell you that this is OK, it is a new, great way how to render fonts, so we all better STFU, because they cannot be wrong. I better stop here... I will not criticize download manager, ugly command bar icons and menus, old ugly personal toolbar and entire amateurish look and feel. It's only a beta

You may be 'smarter' than everyone else - in your own head, if no where else - but your spelling / grammar is atrocious!

-1 just for that monster of a run on sentence at the end. Good lord, man. Find that full stop key and use it!

6205 said,

There are currently two groups of IE9 users:
1./ First group of amateurs do not understand nothing about UI design and word consistency tells nothing to them. Those are the ones who are masturbating abou IE9 UI - worst looking browser on the world...
2./ Second group of mature, more inteligent users see that IE9 is one big failure from UI standpoint almost in every aspect. Entire UI do not fit into Vista nor Seven with unconsistent buttons which looks like some nasty dejavu of first Longhorn 2005 builds. Huge back button, cut off on bottom is specially lame. Those buttons should look like current IE8 buttons, which look the same like IE7 and all of them blend with buttons of new Explorer file manager from Vista/Seven. Also tabs are beside adress bar - another nonsense and under tabs is ugly white line what is another UI fiasco and we have also new font rendering - totally broken, but MS developers will tell you that this is OK, it is a new, great way how to render fonts, so we all better STFU, because they cannot be wrong. I better stop here... I will not criticize download manager, ugly command bar icons and menus, old ugly personal toolbar and entire amateurish look and feel. It's only a beta

I guess that makes you one of the self-dubbed elitist pricks?

hougtimo said,
Sort the ****ing back button out damnit!

It is always so nice when people say to sort something out but never give what in our opinion is wrong with it.

I hear Microsoft are employing some psychics just so they can tailor their products for people like you.

stevember said,

It is always so nice when people say to sort something out but never give what in our opinion is wrong with it.

I hear Microsoft are employing some psychics just so they can tailor their products for people like you.

Haha, +1

Luke777 said,

Hi hougtimo

You can try my design out, will update the the latest ieframe later tonight.
http://nighthawk-f22.deviantart.com/#/d2yuu1c


Thanks - that's much better!

The problem with the back button - which I have documented here on many threads - is the bottom of it is cut off! It. Looks. Horrible.

I'd have been given a bollocking for letting an UX design go to my tutor like that at Uni!

hougtimo said,
I'd have been given a bollocking for letting an UX design go to my tutor like that at Uni!
What an incredibly narrow minded tutor that would be.

Kirkburn said,
What an incredibly narrow minded tutor that would be.

why?

Making a humongous back button that's cut off seems, to me, like a silly design.

Lamp0 said,

why?

Making a humongous back button that's cut off seems, to me, like a silly design.


The entire Metro UI experience is based around elements being cut off...

hougtimo said,

Thanks - that's much better!

The problem with the back button - which I have documented here on many threads - is the bottom of it is cut off! It. Looks. Horrible.

I'd have been given a bollocking for letting an UX design go to my tutor like that at Uni!

The hot area is much bigger when a circle is larger and cut off. So it is unique in design, it fits well with the look of the Metro UI language, with the current Zune client software AND it is much more useful.

hougtimo said,

Thanks - that's much better!

The problem with the back button - which I have documented here on many threads - is the bottom of it is cut off! It. Looks. Horrible.

I'd have been given a bollocking for letting an UX design go to my tutor like that at Uni!

I actually like it's unconventional placing, a lot of designers agree with me btw. The only thing I don't like about it is the fact you can't click to the left of it (although I use backspace most of the time anyway).

The thing I don't like about the design are te strange yellow popups on the bottom. They get in the way, don't look nice and well, I just don't like them

hougtimo said,
Sort the ****ing back button out damnit!

There are far bigger problems with the GUI than a truncated back button.

I don't mind it is cut off. but the fact that it isnt the left-most clickable thing on the window is annoying. I thought that was common sense at this point

hougtimo said,

Thanks - that's much better!

The problem with the back button - which I have documented here on many threads - is the bottom of it is cut off! It. Looks. Horrible.

I'd have been given a bollocking for letting an UX design go to my tutor like that at Uni!


i totally agree with you, it really looks like a mistake and i hope they change it, imho i think that it looks really unprofessional. It looks like someone has messed up the margins or something and I'm surprised at Microsoft for allowing it to be released like that, albeit a beta