IE Struggles to Be Compatible

There's a new browser war brewing, and it's not between Microsoft and Mozilla. Internet Explorer is in a state of conflict with itself and Web standards. The conflict will expand next month, when Microsoft sends enterprises an Internet Explorer 7 Valentine. On February 12, IE 7 will dispatch through WSUS (Windows Server Update Services). The days of enterprises blocking the browser will end.

Desktops running Windows XP and IE 6 will get the update. Those running Windows Vista already have it. IE 7 is notorious for breaking applications and some Web sites, and the reasons for both calamities are somewhat different. Security architectural changes, mainly around ActiveX controls, are the compatibility killer for many homegrown applications and for some Web sites. Microsoft's efforts to make Internet Explorer a standards-based browser has caused Web site compatibility problems.

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True IE7 is a good update, rendering issues???, Firefox, Opera, now defunct (as I recall) Netscape have them, W3C standards man thats what its all about, besides I hear a lot of people saying go with firefox man, but uhh download the IE rendering engine addon ok, so where's the whole independency and I'm better than you?

IE too late to come to the game???, a regular joe gives jack squat about that and so do I, comes preinstalled on every windows machine a couple of clicks away, then it tells you that a new version is available, well yeah sure new is good huh?

The web standards need to bee fine tuned, they are going in a good direction, css has been a huge relief on that part, but its no harm to make web browsers to be upgraded and necessary like IE7 to be the standard, it actually makes life easier to web designers less problems delivering what they want to the bigger audience possible, there's always going to be problems with websites, the web is always changing and evolving thats a fact, problems are gonna arise, no matter what, and solutions come there after.

Just try it, you won't go blind, I use firefox also I like it and respect it, its good, but firefox as well as many browsers has issues and also some working solutions.

peace


Theres nothing wrong with IE7 its a major step forward, why would you want to use obsoloete IE6 in favour of IE7 or even firefox? It really wound me up the other day when I was helping someone with there laptop and she turned arround and told me she dosent like this new internet explorer (refering to IE7) and wanted the old one back...... Why oh why lol

That is the price people pay when they code software to work in piece of garbage like IE. Do the right thing. In the beginning it will be very hard but in the end it will be totally worth it. If people haven't learned this already this will help. Taking shortcuts might be easier and cheaper for near future but in the long run its going to be expensive and painful. This goes for developers of websites too.

"IE 7 is notorious for breaking applications and some Web sites, and the reasons for both calamities are somewhat different."

Ya, IT people are too lazy and corporations are too cheap to bother updating their systems to software from this century. Think about it, what home user still has IE6? Most have either made the update themselves or it was done automatically and you don't see very many articles about compatibility problems. In fact, I know of more sites that have compatibility issues with IE6, than IE7. Internet sites have done something amazing, called adapting! Geeze this browser has been out for close to 2 years, get your act together people, upgrade your software!

Well said. Nice to see someone actually gets it!

IE6 is obsolete and less secure than IE7. There is no reason to not upgrade.

The idea that "IE 7 is notorious for breaking applications and some Web sites" could only come from someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Learn how to use a piece of software before you crap all over it for no reason.

/me wonders which hat to put on first, the developer one or the experience-of-corporates one...

Fancy reworking an internal application knowing that you'll have to do it on your own time, with no recompense, whilst still retaining backward compatibility until the upgrade rollout (which you will ALSO have to do on your own time, with no recompense and the slightest screw-up will get you fired) is completed? Didn't think so.

It costs serious money to roll out IE7 across all machines in a large company. These companies also tend to have in-house applications that work just fine in IE6, but need alteration to work in IE7.

If you feel like giving tens, maybe hundreds, of thousands of dollars to cover redevelopment, redeployment, testing and rollout costs (as the company has no financial reason whatsoever to do this) then go right ahead. However, you are the one who doesn't know what you're talking about.

There are plenty of companies who are still on Windows 2000. They also use IE5.01 or IE5.5, maybe IE6 if you're lucky. In that list are government departments. Perhaps you'd like to pay more tax so they could upgrade?

IE's too late to come to the game, I think. As hard as the IE dev team is working, I really think they should just pack it in, say IE7 is the last version of IE, and be done with it. To update IE for standards is to break compatibility with applications that require IE's problems; that's inevitable. A sad truth, but a truth that needs to be made more public. That way, things like Firefox, Opera and Safari can start being used more.

On a side note...

This site is not viewable with the outdated browser you are using (Internet Explorer 7). Please update to one of the following browsers:
Firefox Opera Safari K-Meleon Flock SeaMonkey
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(rpgfan said @ #5)
IE's too late to come to the game, I think. As hard as the IE dev team is working, I really think they should just pack it in, say IE7 is the last version of IE, and be done with it. To update IE for standards is to break compatibility with applications that require IE's problems; that's inevitable. A sad truth, but a truth that needs to be made more public. That way, things like Firefox, Opera and Safari can start being used more.

I dont think its too late at all, the IE dev team have seen what quality browsers are coming out, and it was inevitable for them to get back into the race. Competition is good, and that includes competition from Microsoft.

(rpgfan said @ #5)
On a side note...

This site is not viewable with the outdated browser you are using (Internet Explorer 7). Please update to one of the following browsers:
Firefox Opera Safari K-Meleon Flock SeaMonkey
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Go away troll.

If the WSUS administrator is worth anything, they'll either:

  1. Follow the update news, so they know this is coming
  2. Turn off automatic approvals for everything but definition updates, so IE7 will just sit there

I have to say, it's pretty annoying hearing all the "news" about how IE7 is going to be forced and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop it. Pfft.

Personally I'm glad it is coming back to WSUS, we've had a hard time using their IEAK to create a usable MSI for our district.

IE7 is being released as an Update Rollout, which means WSUS wont automatically push it to clients without confirmation first. I wish the people would stop misinterpreting this action.

That's a bit misleading, it is still very easy for a WSUS administrator to block the update roll-up. They don't automatically authorize unless set that way. Then that's the fault of the WSUS admin as no proper admin should distribute updates without some testing first.