Image of ZTE Mango Windows Phone appears

Earlier this week, we were shown some of the future ‘Mango’ Windows Phone devices, however predictably there wasn’t much information about the devices released.

Yesterday we learned that the first Mango phone would be released in August, the Fujitsu IS12T comes with a 3.7 inch screen and is waterproof, however there isn’t many other details known.

Today, Dr. Luo Zhong Sheng, General Manager of Mobile Communications at ZTE gave us a better look at the upcoming ZTE device that will also be running Mango out of the box. The image he posted on Weibo (Chinese version of Twitter) seems to be quite a lot different than the image taken at Microsoft’s Worldwide Partner Conference 2011 last week. He also mentioned that whilst ZTE produce Android devices already, he believes Windows Phone will eventually outperform Android in terms of market share.

At this point, it’s known that ZTE will release multiple Mango devices that will be released around a similar time. Additionally Zhong Sheng suggested that the devices produced by ZTE will be tailored for a worldwide consumer base.

Mango is looking promising and the new set of phones make the excitement grow even quicker. As the update is apparently bringing front facing camera support, it’s likely we’ll see such feature on some of the upcoming devices, for now however the images being provided show no signs of such a feature. At this point however, it's probably expected to see it as Microsoft would almost be officially announcing front facing cameras coming this fall. As the devices are still in development we may see some more prominent features in future leaks.

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This is pretty big news given that ZTE is a major supplier of handsets to many carriers (usually sold by the carriers under their own brand) which also opens the chnce to lower cost wp7 device when mango is released. I agree with the CEO's sentiments - android to me always felt like a bag of disjointed code thrown at a problem and the problem been made worse the the likes of Samsung sending out memos to a major carrier where they said they would not provide android updates in favor of pushing new phones instead. I don't know about you but given the crap way in which Android handset vendors (across the board) support their hardware, I'd sooner see wp7 be strong alternative to iOS than Android.

Mr Nom Nom's said,
This is pretty big news given that ZTE is a major supplier of handsets to many carriers (usually sold by the carriers under their own brand) which also opens the chnce to lower cost wp7 device when mango is released. I agree with the CEO's sentiments - android to me always felt like a bag of disjointed code thrown at a problem and the problem been made worse the the likes of Samsung sending out memos to a major carrier where they said they would not provide android updates in favor of pushing new phones instead. I don't know about you but given the crap way in which Android handset vendors (across the board) support their hardware, I'd sooner see wp7 be strong alternative to iOS than Android.

Android had promise if Google would have put a little more thought into what they had acquired, instead of just going with it.

MFRs and Carriers honestly thought Google would get a handle on it, and as technology was progressing, bring Android into what it could have been; however, this wasn't happening and probably won't ever happen.

As 2.2 hit, and the update nightmares the MFRs and Carriers got 'hit in the head' with, not only did they realize Google wasn't improving Android as was expected and also realized that Google didn't care about the update costs that were starting to 'hurt' MFRs and carriers a lot.

This also when WP7 was getting ready to be shipped in the fall, and MFRs were seeing the cost of licensing WP7 was extremely tiny in comparison to just maintaining and updating the code base for an Android based phone.

As the year rolled to a close with a lot of WP7 uncertainty, earlier this year, the pending 2.3 update from Google was showing regression as instead of Android being a more thought-through OS, it was getting worse by Google themselves.

This is when MFRs like Samsung and other started talking about the advantages of WP7 in terms of cost, as Microsoft was handling all the code, and the MFRs only had to test and assist with any specific drivers to their devices. Microsoft also was taking responsibility and the costs of getting the update out to consumers. (And even though it wasn't a smooth first update for WP7, it was far easier on MFRs and far cheaper.)

With Microsoft managing the OS code and updates, it created a device agnostic system with a unified OS. This was really nice for MFRs as it was simple and cheap.

It is also great for consumers as they get the iPhone OS consistency experience, and centralized updates, and still can have the same choice in hardware that Android was initially offering. And unlike Apple's iPhone, users could get a slide out keyboard, the screen size that fits their pockect and type of use.

So OEMs like WP7 because they don't have to 'modify/build/compile' the OS, like they do with Android, and go through this process with every bug fix and update to the phone. They also like the fact that WP7 is not fragmented all over the place, even from the OEM viewpoint with keeping a specific code base of Android for each phone they make. Which is why they gave up on future version updates after the 2.2 nightmare, and all Android phones are basically now sold as is, and won't see a newer version of Android released for them. Which is already becoming a consumer level problem with just 1.6, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 versions, wait a couple of years with 3 or 4 more versions running around.

So ya, WP7 is cheaper for MFRs, gives consumers consistency, and is a pretty good OS design, as it is very flexible, without breaking backwards compatibility (like Microsoft does well), and even has some inherent development and performance advantages over Android.

(Samsung's Android with the awesome GPU was another wake up call, as it was putting out real world performance on Android that was about 1/3 of the technical capabilities of the hardware. Where WP7 phones were putting out real world 3D performance that was beyond the Qualcomm technical numbers of the GPU, because Qualcomm's test numbers were based on an optimized Linux running OpenGL ES, which is not as fast as WinCE and Mobile DirectX.)

Nailed it lol. You should write a review for Neowin. Titled "A hundred and one reasons why WP7 is better than any other OS in the market"
Would love to see what those quad core Nvidia Kal-El based WP7s and Win8 tablets have to offer. Would probably beat PS Vita hands down in terms of gaming capabilities.

In term of the smoothness of the OS, Android falls way behind Apple iOS and Windows Phone 7. When I used it, I have a feeling like the same old Windows Mobile 6. May be Linux core is not good enough for mobile device.

satus said,
In term of the smoothness of the OS, Android falls way behind Apple iOS and Windows Phone 7. When I used it, I have a feeling like the same old Windows Mobile 6. May be Linux core is not good enough for mobile device.

I must admit, that comparing to my Symbian s60v3/s60v5, my sister's android phone is a lot lot smoother. Nothing to complain about it...

trumphil said,

I must admit, that comparing to my Symbian s60v3/s60v5, my sister's android phone is a lot lot smoother. Nothing to complain about it...
Yeah Android vs WP7 is the same as Chrome vs IE9 lol. iOS is Safari and Meego is Firefox.
Oh but now with WP7.5, i think we'll see some real competition. Mango is like IE15 or something, way above the others.

GP007 said,

No one cares about some silly test you found, give it a rest.

I expected such a response :-)

When invited tests/reports show :
IE9 decimates competition at malware prevention
or
IDC : WP7 will surpass Android in 2015
or
IE9 decimates competition at HTML5 test.... these aren't silly reports/ tests.

An unbiased neutral security & compatible tests are silly.

satus said,
In term of the smoothness of the OS, Android falls way behind Apple iOS and Windows Phone 7. When I used it, I have a feeling like the same old Windows Mobile 6. May be Linux core is not good enough for mobile device.

1) Linux is too heavy for a device. Why? Monolithic kernel, with a unix-like OS model.
2) Android bypasses the memory mangement and many other aspects of Linux.
3) #2 is a direct result of #1, as Android can't implement the full Linux stack of services, as it would be even slower than the Android version of managing the specfic systems it still needs.
**Because of this, Android has no real virtual memory system, and no way for an App to self page out nor can Android properly shift processes to virtual RAM as needed.)
4) Android has no UI acceleration. It doesn't use the GPU nor even any CPU based tricks.
5) Android uses a slow VJM.
6) Android has limited API functionality, which requires developers to 'recreate' code for features the OS should be providing. Which also makes Apps use more RAM, and factor back into #3
7) Google is not an OS company. Even Apple has a better grasp of OS design, and they are still using OS theory and models from the 1980s for OS X and iOS.
8) Android has poor OpenGL ES performance. (See #3 and look how it gets OpenGL to the GPU)
9) Android has very little 'intelligence' in what is running on the OS because it continues to follow the unix-like OS model in Dalvik, even though they shouldn't be.
**This means that if an App is getting shut down and restarted 50 times a minute, Android never notices, and just lets it eat performance and the battery - which is very real on 2.2 and newer builds of Android.


However, users mainly notice the RAM fighting, and lack of the GPU accelerated UI that WP7 has throughout, and iOS has partial implementation.

If you have a newer Android device with a lot of system RAM, it can be ok. Also on older devices, if you know the right tricks with forsaking the lifespan of your microSD card, you can add in a 'pretend' Swap file, so that at least Apps that have a lot of initialization to process when they load will be reopen much faster and background processes will have less of a fight to stay alive sucking the performance and battery.

Unless Google does a revamp from the ground up with REAL OS engineers, Android won't sustain itself, and it will become the OS/2 of the 1990s. Which is a good analogy, as IBM also didn't have the quality of OS engineers on the OS/2 and thus used the mindsets of 'path of least resistance' and 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it', just like we watch Google do today.

Viper550 said,

the whole patent nonsense will wipe everyone else out unless someone acts.

This is why Apple should have been stopped with it 30 years ago when they started off suing Franklin computers and shoved for an overreaching definition that all software patents are based on today.

In the recent lawsuits Apple has issued, if they get the lines blurred on the copyright/patent and the redefinition of the constructs of a patent being as viable as the 'idea' that the constructs are in place to convey, it will be even more of a nightmare.

Sadly, this will hurt Apple as much as anyone, as they don't seem to remember that they didn't create everything and even the 'look and feel' crap applies to them as well.

('look and feel' is another patent/copyright term that has legal precedent which was coined by Apple in a lawsuit.)

For this all to end, it will take someone like a large patent holder with a lot of prior art and innovation under their belt with a focus on software and some hardware. You know a company like Microsoft. However, when they got shoved down the anti-trust rabbit hole, it tied their hands with credibility in the courts and the US/EU govts to address the patent nightmares. Even the recent patent lawsuit against Microsoft over the Word container nonesense left them with little room to even defend the lawsuit, as even the US Supreme Court used the Anti-Trust ruling agains them and restricted their submission of evidence showing that Word and the concept in question was something in use by Microsoft several years before the patent was applied for. And they lost.

Now that ZTE will start to produce WP7 phones, Microsoft sure to demand ZTE to pay for each Android phone sold due to Patent infringements. /s

ZTE Now- July 11
"He also mentioned that whilst ZTE produce Android devices already, he believes Windows Phone will eventually outperform Android in terms of market share."

ZTE then.. (March 11)

"Chinese smartphone maker ZTE, fifth largest in the world, has publicly criticized Microsoft for the lackluster market reaction to its Windows Phone 7 operating system and said that ZTE has no plans to develop a WP7-powered phone. That's bad news for Microsoft for its well-regarded but not well-received mobile OS."
http://wp7lab.com/news/zte-launch-wp7-device-future/

I wonder if they had a meeting with Ballmer LOL

guru said,
ZTE
I wonder if they had a meeting with Ballmer LOL

Quite possible, since Windows Phones just don't sell in bulk the money lost compared to producing an Android model should be provided by Microsoft, that would be a great incentive to get Windows Phone moving, would probably cost billions though.