Intel to phase out Core i7 940 and 965 Extreme

This may come as a surprise to some, but reports state that Intel is looking to phase out its Core i7 940 and 965 extreme processors, just barely 6 months after their release. The Core i7 940 and 965 Extreme CPUs, which are based on Intel's new Nehalem microarchitecture and have a clock rate of 2.93 Ghz and 3.2 Ghz respectively, will be officially "unavailable" after September 4th, 2009.



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Intel has not revealed any reasons for stopping the production of the 2 out of their only 3 desktop Nehalem based processors. Reports suggest that Intel may be making way for their successors, the rumored Core i7 950 3.06 Ghz and 975 Extreme 3.33 Ghz CPUs. This could mean that the current Core i7 processors were not really meant to be mainstream products, but rather as a way to meet the launch date and a taste for all that is to come.

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oh i forgot

i get the feeling

intel going to re-release 965 as 960 (yea you guessed locked multi)

i went online and people are talking about a 930 soon? anyone hear any trusted sources about that? i was thinking of buying a 920 but if the 930 is around the corner...

@jjraambo

your statement are laughable

those new part not only have better clock

they got the better stepping 'D0'

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it is normal to phaseout part in favor of better chips

The word obsolete is being used quite a bit here, when that isn't the correct term to use.

"Owners of the current Core i7 processors may feel betrayed by the fact that Intel's greatest desktop line of processors will soon be rendered obsolete, but that is a price one must pay to keep up with the pace of technology. "

Obsolete means, no longer useful, or no longer in use.

xendrome said,
The word obsolete is being used quite a bit here, when that isn't the correct term to use.

"Owners of the current Core i7 processors may feel betrayed by the fact that Intel's greatest desktop line of processors will soon be rendered obsolete, but that is a price one must pay to keep up with the pace of technology. "

Obsolete means, no longer useful, or no longer in use.


They are not obsolete cause they will use same socket and no problem there.

Airlink said,
The problem with the word: "Obsolete" is that it's subjective in nature. How people define the term varies widely.

Technically that's not subjective, it's still people using the term wrong. Go look up the definition.

jjrambo said,
They are not obsolete cause they will use same socket and no problem there.

Well exactly, but also Obsolete would say that the chips will no longer work correctly or can no longer be put into use. Which isn't true.

This is called progress, apparently...
Well as long as these super high end-expensive chips for enthusiasts are replaced with something even more impressive then it's good. Hope suppliers sell these 'obsolete' chips at recession friendly prices!

It's a good thing I waited. I was waiting for DDR3 to get better before upgrading to iCore7. The latency for DDR3 is double of that DDR2. Once DDR3 gets better latency, iCore7 should be ready.

java2beans said,
It's a good thing I waited. I was waiting for DDR3 to get better before upgrading to iCore7. The latency for DDR3 is double of that DDR2. Once DDR3 gets better latency, iCore7 should be ready.


You have not seen the memory benchmarks for the i7, have you? Memory bandwidth is one of it's strong points.

Anyone with a brain can look at the roadmap and see this coming a mile away. I do not get the journalistic style in this "editorial", it doesn't make any sense.

September 2009 is not 6 months after the release, September is still 5-6 months away.

But going by this article, I think they are also saying you should have felt betrayed buying an 8080 as it was only a "taste of what is to come".

September is still 5-6 months away, but the astonishing fact is that Intel seems to have plans to phase them out right now.

This was never meant to be an editorial. I apologise if you think my article is sloppy work.

Man I love my i7 920! For $230 it is great

This could make sense too, a while ago Asus released a new bios patch for 'new processors' even though it already supported the three current i7s, and they didnt list what the new ones were...

Owners of the current Core i7 processors may feel betrayed by the fact that Intel's greatest desktop line of processors will soon be rendered obsolete,

nonsense

it would be obsolete when westmere 32nm come out

Well, there are many ways to look at the word 'obsolete'. What I meant was that the specified Core i7 processors will no longer be on the frontline of desktop processors despite being released barely 6 months ago.

However, to end the argument, I have removed the statement entirely.

Owners of the current Core i7 processors may feel betrayed by the fact that Intel's greatest desktop line of processors will soon be rendered obsolete, but that is a price one must pay to keep up with the pace of technology.

never understood this, it's not like your processor will suddenly stop working because intel decides not to make them anymore. Sure, you will not have the latest processor when intel comes with something new, but that's always the case

Exactly. People wanting technology to slow down to stay on the edge longer are idiots, plain and simple. Every single time I buy technology, I do it with the expectation to only be on the edge for the moment. If you think otherwise, you're, once again, an idiot, potentially also with a big ego, or childish thoughts about it all like envy. It's so stupid and so obvious why people come up with those opinions that I don't understand why they want to embarass themselves by even voicing them.

Technology should move ahead as quick as possible, of course. Always. However, it should preferrably also be reasonably backwards compatible. That's where it matters. But THANK GOD, these new CPU's uses the exact same x64 instruction set as those being obsoleted now, and the older ones won't stop working, and existing owners of the former generation won't see a damn difference, other than not being on this ridiculous "edge".

Not to mention if you wanna be on the bleeding edge, expect to change your stuff every six months. If you bought it on January, you can call yourself "January's Bleeding Edge" but it doesn't sound threatening .

I honestly think intel can, if they wanted to, release a Ci7 at 4Ghz right away. But it seems that 3Ghz-3.33Ghz is more than enough for them to fight off AMDs best attempt.

So unless they feel any pressure, I don't see stock speeds going much higher anytime soon. While core count will regardless.

Perhaps this is more likely a case of better yields than expected on the new processors, rendering the need for the current batch obsolete? Or perhaps they were being conservative, and it's turned out the 950's are ready sooner than expected with better stats?

We'll know soon enough.

true, so should I throw my 920 away and buy a 950 as soon as it comes out :P

Personally this doesn't affect me at all... One can easily achieve the performance of a 950 out of the 920 on stock voltages.

Well, from what I remember the new i7s are just a new stepping which also lets intel up the clocks more like we see while keeping the same TDP.

But 3.33Ghz at the top end has been done time and again. I'm waiting to see a stock clock go higher. 3.8Ghz should be doable while still keeping temps within respectful levels.

GP007 said,
Well, from what I remember the new i7s are just a new stepping which also lets intel up the clocks more like we see while keeping the same TDP.

But 3.33Ghz at the top end has been done time and again. I'm waiting to see a stock clock go higher. 3.8Ghz should be doable while still keeping temps within respectful levels.


Why does it matter if 3+GHz has been done before? the whole point of CPU's now is to get my instructions per clock cycle... heck I'd rather see the number of instructions at 3.0GHz CPU can do, done in 1.5GHz...

Unfortunatly, that is the way companies work.
Like Microsoft pushing Vista so hard and telling everyone its the way to go, even for businesses.

In reality, it was/is just a stepping stone to Windows 7

Well everything is a stepping stone to something else, it just depends on how you look at it Well yeah, the IT industry is fast paced (and at times cut throat) world and we all know that whenever we buy anything tech the next best thing is just around the corner, it's the risk we all take really.

Xerxes said,
Well everything is a stepping stone to something else, it just depends on how you look at it Well yeah, the IT industry is fast paced (and at times cut throat) world and we all know that whenever we buy anything tech the next best thing is just around the corner, it's the risk we all take really.


Exactly. +1

Atlonite said,
so why do they not just drop the i7 920 and 940

They need to keep the 920 around for the more budget minded customers.