Internet Explorer 8 wins the October PC browser war

The web browser wars is still dominated by a version of Microsoft's Internet Explorer. NetMarketShare.com reports that IE 8 from Microsoft is still the leader worldwide with 29 percent of the market share for PC browsers for the month of October. The latest versions of Google's Chrome (14.0) and Mozilla's Firefox (7.0) are in second and third place with 13.65 percent and 10.18 percent of the market, respectively.

Microsoft loves to spin the numbers a bit on its official Internet Explorer blog and in October it is no different. 34.9 percent of Windows 7 users now use Internet Explorer 9 here in the US, followed by Chrome with 14.3 percent and Firefox at 11.8 percent. Microsoft has continued to try to get Internet PC users to dump Internet Explorer 6, which still has 7.49 percent of the browser market. It is still close behind IE 9 which has 9.79 percent.

While Microsoft sees getting rid of IE 6 as a priority, due to security issues with malware creators, we think the real issue is with Chrome and Firefox. Microsoft continues to stick with slow releases of new versions of its browser, while Firefox and Chrome keep releasing new versions with major new features and performance improvements. Chrome handles these software updates automatically while Firefox is constantly releasing new versions of the web browser.

We think Microsoft needs to start to do the same, with rapid releases of major new software updates for Internet Explorer. Browser users are expecting such things at the moment and Microsoft needs to move with the tide towards faster updates of major new Internet Explorer software versions.

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I don't like the way Google Chrome
1) installs itself in User Data folder and you cannot change it ==> THIS IS RIDICULOUS!
2) installs a service which autonatically starts with Windows. ==> SHAME ON GOOGLE!
3) invades privacy
4) Tries to install together with many other applications such as Skype, Avast! Antivirus, ...
5) Even tries to install Google Chrome Frame for my browser when I access some websites.

Edited by iwillneverstop, Nov 2 2011, 5:17am :

OK, I may not be the "general population representative" but I do work in IT. I am writing this comment in MY browser [Chrome] BTW..

I have to say as I work on different machines and see many computers and see lots of posts.. IE is NOT mentioned or seen from. The fact that IE is high on the list tells me one thing, that since people spend 60% or more of their waking hours at work, and since corporate politics dictate that everyone at a company follow a "standard", it's easier to use something that you MUST use for work, because of internal sites and company policies, than 2 different browsers.

I say that IE stats are slanted, and NOT what the users truly use if they had a choice, because I may not be a fan, but Firefox is generally more visible than IE. People even go out of their way to FORCE using something else other than IE when they can, and I have to say that those stats that show IE is "faster" is complete and utter BS!

Facebook, play some games.. TELL me IE is faster! BS! Go to a page with lots of graphics and sounds.. pop-ups..and convince me IE is faster, NO! It is NOT. I don't know whose idea this is that we be given this useless drivel.. but it's NOT, repeat, NOT TRUE!


IE has not "won" any war.. at ALL

Eberton Sobreira said,
As I say MS FTW. IE is in version 10.... Chrome is in version 14 and yet not achieved IE's success. FF, oh boy... what a pity on it.

Care to elaborate on your claims?

Eberton Sobreira said,
As I say MS FTW. IE is in version 10.... Chrome is in version 14 and yet not achieved IE's success. FF, oh boy... what a pity on it.

First of all version means zip. Just means they decided to release that many versions. Secondly IE is version 9 not 10, don't know where you got that.. IE9 JUST came out.

IE has sucked, will suck and has always sucked since DAY 1 (I remind everyone netscape vs IE.. ).. the war continues to this day. Why are so many alternatives to IE successful hmmm -- one doesn't stand out but as a group they all beat IE? Yeah ask yourself WHY are there so many OTHER alternatives to IE if IE is soooooo goood.. yeah, nice one dumb ass.

go work for MS since they are so good, the rest of us know the better browser and it's NOT IE.

rijp said,

First of all version means zip. Just means they decided to release that many versions. Secondly IE is version 9 not 10, don't know where you got that.. IE9 JUST came out.

IE has sucked, will suck and has always sucked since DAY 1 (I remind everyone netscape vs IE.. ).. the war continues to this day. Why are so many alternatives to IE successful hmmm -- one doesn't stand out but as a group they all beat IE? Yeah ask yourself WHY are there so many OTHER alternatives to IE if IE is soooooo goood.. yeah, nice one dumb ass.

go work for MS since they are so good, the rest of us know the better browser and it's NOT IE.

IE9 came out 8 months ago.

IE9 Surpasses Chrome, Firefox Next, Usage-wise - on Windows 7

http://news.softpedia.com/news...e-on-Windows-7-231287.shtml

IE's RSS reading and bookmarks bar customization is the best and most natural. No other browser has still gotten reading, subscribing and syncing RSS feeds right yet. Now if only the IE team can make desktop IE10 an all-powerful browser with full customizable UI and put back removed features and keep the dumbed down minimalist approach in Metro IE, it will be the best of both worlds for all types of users.

Chrome: 29.35%
IE: 28.58%
Firefox: 25.50%

My website which has a young demographic has the stats above for October ^

It's not that they need faster updates, IMO the release schedule for Firefox was way too rapid from 4 to 6.

What MS needs to do is have silent automatic updates in the background that update not only the browser but especially the rendering engine. The user shouldn't have to be constantly asked to reboot to just update the browser, it should happen in the background in the same way Chrome does it - it shows an indicator when an update is available but it installs and downloads it automatically.

raindrop said,
What surprises me, is that IE drops it total percent in the desktop (all IE versions)
and soon to be under 50% marketshare
Now the total chart is:
IE: 52.5%
Firefox: 22.5%
Chrome: 17.5%
Safari: 5.5%
Opera: 1.5%

Source: http://www.netmarketshare.com/...spx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0


Oh, IE has been under 50% for a long time. 95% of the counters agree that IE makes up 39% or less.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/w...Usage_share_of_Web_browsers

Netmarketshare has always inflated IE's stats.

TruckWEB said,
Still running FireFox here, no plan on moving back to IE. I love all the Add-on you can have on FF.

Me too. Nothing beats Adblock Plus, NoScript, Skipscreen, HTTP Everywhere, and Stylish.

Worldwide browser statistics are interestingly skewed. A large proportion of IE6 usage is in China, which dramatically alters the figures.

If we take Europe alone, using StatCounter, we find IE7 now languishing at 3% and IE6 less than 1%. IE8 is still on top with 18%, but when versions are combined, IE and Firefox tie for 33% with Chrome still on the rapid rise at 23%.

Timble said,
Worldwide browser statistics are interestingly skewed. A large proportion of IE6 usage is in China, which dramatically alters the figures.

Very true. Also, most IE users are businesses. Ordinary people are moving to Firefox/Chrome/Opera in their droves.

Timble said,

If we take Europe alone, using StatCounter, we find IE7 now languishing at 3% and IE6 less than 1%. IE8 is still on top with 18%, but when versions are combined, IE and Firefox tie for 33% with Chrome still on the rapid rise at 23%.

In most of Europe, IE does far worse than in the US. In Germany for example (according to most stats), Firefox decimates IE.

cleverclogs said,
I swear the majority of Chrome installs were from Skype bundles. Would be amusing if Skype now reset defaults to ie9...

Microsoft is using the same tactics with IE9 already. Many programs as now bundling it, as well as the Bing bar.

cleverclogs said,
I swear the majority of Chrome installs were from Skype bundles. Would be amusing if Skype now reset defaults to ie9...

and all sony computers sell with chrome. i think some others do as well

cleverclogs said,
I swear the majority of Chrome installs were from Skype bundles. Would be amusing if Skype now reset defaults to ie9...

If computers were sold without a browser pre-installed IE9/Chrome, and the user was to choose which browser after seeing the pros and cons of all browsers during setup, I think we would see a much different story. But since many PC users just do basic web viewing, they use what's already installed and don't care about what's under the hood of their browser.

Comon.. Really.. Chrome?? Firefox?? We get a new version every month. Do you lot understand the cost envolved in upgrading a Browser in a business.. EG 76% of the entire Computer Market is business based computing, of which 74% use a PC, with Windows XP or 7, connecting to a mass of mixed content from .net, to Java, HTML5, HTML4 and so one.. and you know why business Chooses IE, even after extensive Trials of Chrome or Firefox... its the Security.. The Group policy control with AD.
The ability to manage your browser centrally as well as ensure settings are locked and work with the OS Security is paramount in todays business IT.

Hey at home.. go for it.. use what you want.. After performing the tests at work on browsers/security/ and what gets fed back to the vendor ill be sticking with IE.

rxsoob said,
Comon.. Really.. Chrome?? Firefox?? We get a new version every month. Do you lot understand the cost envolved in upgrading a Browser in a business.. EG 76% of the entire Computer Market is business based computing, of which 74% use a PC, with Windows XP or 7, connecting to a mass of mixed content from .net, to Java, HTML5, HTML4 and so one.. and you know why business Chooses IE, even after extensive Trials of Chrome or Firefox... its the Security.. The Group policy control with AD.
The ability to manage your browser centrally as well as ensure settings are locked and work with the OS Security is paramount in todays business IT.

Hey at home.. go for it.. use what you want.. After performing the tests at work on browsers/security/ and what gets fed back to the vendor ill be sticking with IE.

Says you.. browsers are SELF install, user preference. You want to control your users and prevent them from using what they WANT, your problem.

A browser either works or it doesn't. you can publish your proxy settings, it's not going to let them surf until they have it set properly. It's not a big deal, therefore ZERO cost.. the only cost is because you INSIST on pushing preference to a users that YOU want and your company want to impose your choice.

Still doesn't mean IE is the BEST solution, just means some big whig at your company has too much power to CONTROL his little fish bowl.

Microsoft continues to stick with slow releases of new versions of its browser, while Firefox and Chrome keep releasing new versions with major new features and performance improvements.

I started using Chrome last year as my regular browser, and since then the changes that have happened have been so subtle that I haven't noticed them... the biggest ones I can think of off the top of my head are decent printing functionality and the new New Tab page.

Firefox's new releases seem to break more things than they fix... most of the time I have issues with add-ons after a new version is updated. That said, since 4, I think the biggest change is "now no longer goes crazy and eats memory when left idle for too long", so we may as well be on 4.5... this would probably have reduced plug in issues too, no doubt.

I see no reason to rush out releases like nobody's business, unless meaningful features are being added to each one.

Exactly what I thought when reading this. I'm on FF 9.0a2 right now, and I can hardly tell the difference between that and FF 4.

I know they have a heavy marketing machine, but I still find it incredible the growth that chrome has experienced. I use it (and love it) but I'm still surprised at the time it's taken for it to climb so dramatically - even overtaking Firefox.

empty said,
I know they have a heavy marketing machine, but I still find it incredible the growth that chrome has experienced. I use it (and love it) but I'm still surprised at the time it's taken for it to climb so dramatically - even overtaking Firefox.

It hasn't overtaken Firefox yet, but it probably will. I've checked NetMarketShare.com and their latest statistics show Firefox at 22.51% and Chrome at 17.62%. This article said that Chrome 14 (that specific version) has higher market share than Firefox 7, that means there are still a lot of users using older versions of Firefox.

I like Safari on Lion because it's integrated with the OS, but on Windows hands down for Chrome it's fast secure and responsive. Firefox is great, if you like the slow motion effect ...

Marius F said,
I like Safari on Lion because it's integrated with the OS, but on Windows hands down for Chrome it's fast secure and responsive. Firefox is great, if you like the slow motion effect ...

Faster Javascript sure, but Chrome is horribly slow at times when it comes to the GUI. Feedly for example can be painfully sluggish when scrolling, etc, a real slow motion effect.

Taranaich said,

Faster Javascript sure, but Chrome is horribly slow at times when it comes to the GUI. Feedly for example can be painfully sluggish when scrolling, etc, a real slow motion effect.

I've just did some tests on Sunspider and the results are as below (all the latest stable versions no beta etc..)
1. Safari 289 ms
2. Firefox 294 ms
3. Chrome 355 ms
4. Opera 363 ms

but if I went to the IE test drive page Firefox came last on these tests
- Particle Acceleration
- Flying Images


When I said you'll experience the slow-motion effect I meant on the responsiveness of the browser, the start-up times, memory hog . Maybe it's just me, but I had bad experiences with Firefox, since version 3 ...

Maybe the time is over, when the user want (or must) adjust anything? I can use Chrome and IE without any addon and I am sure a lot of users do this. (Apart from "default" addons, like Flash). But Firefox? Who use Fx without addons?

Marius F said,
When I said you'll experience the slow-motion effect I meant on the responsiveness of the browser, the start-up times, memory hog . Maybe it's just me, but I had bad experiences with Firefox, since version 3 ...

Well with version 3 I do agree, it's painfully slow. The latest builds however are very quick and fluid. At least on my system, startup is near instant, and memory usage is quite good. Sunspider is pretty close between the two, Chrome really pulls ahead by a good margin with PeaceKeeper though... but between the sluggish UI and mediocre addons (especially the ad blockers, meh at best), I'll stick with Firefox. I can live with a slower benchmark score when "real world usage" seems much quicker overall. The one thing I think that IE9 does very well though its its jumplist handling, none of the others can touch it currently.

Lastwebpage said,
Maybe the time is over, when the user want (or must) adjust anything? I can use Chrome and IE without any addon and I am sure a lot of users do this. (Apart from "default" addons, like Flash). But Firefox? Who use Fx without addons?

The browser alone is a very speedy browser, which is the topic at hand, the addons are what "slows it down" but the add-ons are also very useful. For instance the main add-ons I use are Ad-block Plus and WOT. Which are not buit in to IE or Chrome, and need to be added post-install.

Thus completely offsiding the business market which requires a standardised (not necessarily standards compliant) browser for their applications internally.

By the way, who is we? We the communist party?

SikSlayer said,

Yeah, who is this 'we' he speaks of?

The voice of Neowin. It seems to be part of this new writing style that Neowin has adopted as of a couple of weeks ago. I like it.

articuno1au said,
Thus completely offsiding the business market which requires a standardised (not necessarily standards compliant) browser for their applications internally.

If the browser is standards compliant and the applications are written to conform to standards, then updating the browser should not break anything. In an ideal world of course but even in the real world it's not all that common. Web apps shouldn't be made to target specific browsers anyway.

articuno1au said,
By the way, who is we? We the communist party?

I hope you're kidding and just choose that for the sake of a joke, cause seriously it would be very sad that jesus' freaks-gun-totting-Obama's-a-communist kind of people are invading this forums. Sorry if I sound as a D-Bag but I'm getting tired of all that people talking crazy on the TV and polluting everything with their apocalyptic vision.

BTW I think that a standards compliant browsers are way more practical and feasible than a standardized browser, the former give us options, the later would be indeed communism like

articuno1au said,
Thus completely offsiding the business market which requires a standardised (not necessarily standards compliant) browser for their applications internally.

No one cares about the business market anyway. They all use IE. If business IE use is discounted, IE's real share would drop about 10%. I seriously doubt IE even leads when it comes to actual internet users.

Timble said,

The voice of Neowin. It seems to be part of this new writing style that Neowin has adopted as of a couple of weeks ago. I like it.

I don't see why everyone at Neowin needs to agree. If I wrote here, I wouldn't want anyone proverbially "putting words in my mouth". John may think everyone agrees with him, but that doesn't mean anyone else actually does. I'm willing to bet he didn't ask either. It's just a childish way to give his statement authority.

Edited by SikSlayer, Nov 1 2011, 5:26pm :

LaXu said,
Web apps shouldn't be made to target specific browsers anyway.

Tell that to ORACLE whose acquisition companies' web apps are all tailored specifically to work with the quirks of IE6. IE7 compatability mode breakes these sites as well.

Meconio said,

I hope you're kidding and just choose that for the sake of a joke, cause seriously it would be very sad that jesus' freaks-gun-totting-Obama's-a-communist kind of people are invading this forums. Sorry if I sound as a D-Bag but I'm getting tired of all that people talking crazy on the TV and polluting everything with their apocalyptic vision.

BTW I think that a standards compliant browsers are way more practical and feasible than a standardized browser, the former give us options, the later would be indeed communism like

Umm... what? What does Communism have to do with Apocolypses? And please explain what a "jesus' freaks-gun-totting-Obama's-a-communist" is. He was just saying that using "We" in a news report is very improper, as the world is based on opinions, I for one could care less what Microsoft does to IE9, as I use both Firefox and Chrome depending on the application. I have never liked IE. So if the author is saying "We" as in the whole of Neowin, then he is wrong. As at least one person disagrees.

SSCorporal said,

Umm... what? What does Communism have to do with Apocolypses? And please explain what a "jesus' freaks-gun-totting-Obama's-a-communist" is..

The people who claim that the US communist president is behind a conspiracy to take away their guns and their american way of life, and always manage to use Jesus or the Lord as an ally of them. It sound stupid and crazy but just watch any Rep. debate or that Lapierre guy....obviously I overreacted but to associate with communism anything that remotely refers to any association or even the pronoun "we" is also an hyperbole.