iPad Mute switch here to stay

Steve Jobs has been back at his iPhone replying to some emails from users, this time in relation to an upcoming change that will come with iOS 4.2 when it is released next month. In the current version of iOS for the iPad, you have a screen rotation lock. When iOS 4.2 comes out, this will change to a mute button. While some may feel this is how it should have been in the first place, a number of users are unhappy about the change and would like to see either a reversal on the decision or an option to choose how to use the hardware button.

According to site 9 to 5 Mac, they have seen an e-mail correspondence from Steve Jobs between himself and one of their readers. In the email, Steve is asked if the decision to change it is permanent, to which Steve replied "Yep." The user then asked if there is the chance of a changeable option being part of iOS, and in a typically short Steve answer, he replied "No."

So, it looks as if iPad users will now have to get used to having a hardware mute switch just like you have on an iPhone. The option to lock orientation will still be in iOS though, on the far left of the multitasking dock once you install iOS 4.2 next month.

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onebadolepuddycat said,
What was his rationale?

He has no rationale.....He's Steve Jobs, the Great and Fearless leader.....so sick of the bull****! I think from now on the only products from Apple I will consider will be their notebooks or desktops. Their mobile devices are just awful toys!

Ha ha! Yeah right! Jobs allowing a user to use their
device how THEY want to and not how Jobs wants to?
Fat chance!


"option to choose how to use the hardware button.

Orange Battery said,
I think its a shame when an operating system has such strict control over key configuration.
I am almost used to it with all these ****ty ported console games coming to PC where you cant rebind a damned thing.

Jobs has come such a long way from his old days of "For the rest of us" in early 1980s -.-. Now its all about the money cause Apples been such a success he knows even if their products suck there's always going to be a demand for them. Whether its old long term customers or new ones..

Goddamnit! I use that orientation lock button a lot. In fact, multiple times during the day. I'm telling you now, if this cancerous moron doesn't start listening to his customers, sooner or later people are going to get fed up with his stuck-up, dictatorial attitude and move on to different platforms like Android which are better anyways.

Little aggressive way of saying it but yeah. I'm pretty fed up with the direction apple are heading both hardware and software. Our way or the highway.

Edited by Nicholas-c, Oct 25 2010, 3:32pm :

I really prefer if it stayed as rotation lock, i need to lock rotation more than muting it and if its at full volume for example hold down the volume down for a second and it jumps down.

Ah well. Of course apple know best for me though!

just jailbreak the damn thing and map your buttons how you want.

man, people cry over the stupidest bs these days...

Ruciz said,
just jailbreak the damn thing and map your buttons how you want.

man, people cry over the stupidest bs these days...

Not everyone wants to jailbreak their hardware, y'know.

I am also one of those ****ed off at the change. My iPad is usually muted 99% of the time. If it is not holding volume down for like 1 second does this. Rotation lock however i use well over a 12 times a day. I don't what to have to go through the stupid process of locking/unlocking that is on the iPhone all the damned time on my iPad.

Ya know, you can just hold down the "volume down" button for a sec and it'll mute. Kinda stupid really, especially since you can't choose the function of that hardware button. Personally, I prefer the screen lock as it can get annoying in some games or applications when you use the accelerometer and the screen flips. Us Android and WinMo users have the option easily accessible from the notification bar whereas on the iPad and iPhone, you don't.

Billus said,
Ya know, you can just hold down the "volume down" button for a sec and it'll mute. Kinda stupid really, especially since you can't choose the function of that hardware button. Personally, I prefer the screen lock as it can get annoying in some games or applications when you use the accelerometer and the screen flips. Us Android and WinMo users have the option easily accessible from the notification bar whereas on the iPad and iPhone, you don't.

Yeah...you have to double click the home key and move the springboard to the left and click a button.

one thing that irks me about companies, they put a button on something you get use to what it does, then boom they change it... like I have a device that has a speaker icon from a few years ago (A tablet) that does muting also, but they changed it to be a ctrl+alt+del button...... which it still has a speaker with an X through it... talk about stupidly confusing... and it was done in a bios update they removed previous revisions for ugh...

As an iPad and an iPhone 4 user, I can see why this is being done and appreciate it. I prefer for all of my Apple devices to function similarly. The iPhone switch is for mute, and always has been. The only reason that switch was ever used for orientation lock is because Apple wanted that feature, but didn't have any other triggering mechanism. iOS 4.2 will fix that. This is a step forward, people.

M. Sullivan said,
As an iPad and an iPhone 4 user, I can see why this is being done and appreciate it. I prefer for all of my Apple devices to function similarly. The iPhone switch is for mute, and always has been. The only reason that switch was ever used for orientation lock is because Apple wanted that feature, but didn't have any other triggering mechanism. iOS 4.2 will fix that. This is a step forward, people.
Apple wants to make things alike for simple people who get confused. To boot the switch is on the WRONG SIDE compared to the phone. There is nothing wrong with the switch doing rotation lock. To boot why can there not be a option to change it back?

Sounds like a die hard Apple fanboy where Apple can do no wrong.

necrosis said,
Apple wants to make things alike for simple people who get confused. To boot the switch is on the WRONG SIDE compared to the phone. There is nothing wrong with the switch doing rotation lock. To boot why can there not be a option to change it back?

Sounds like a die hard Apple fanboy where Apple can do no wrong.

You are hilarious! So an identical switch next to an identical volume rocker was CLEARLY intended for a separate function because it was put on a DIFFERENT SIDE. Good try, but you can save your ad hominem and surely other fallacious arguments for someone else.

It makes sense to me..
The Mute will work regardless of the state of the device, which is important when you are going into a meeting or talking to someone.
The Screenlock, well you'll already have the device on, which means you can enable it easily in the dock..

Seems like the best really.

Ryoken said,
It makes sense to me..
The Mute will work regardless of the state of the device, which is important when you are going into a meeting or talking to someone.
The Screenlock, well you'll already have the device on, which means you can enable it easily in the dock..

Seems like the best really.

Agreed. You won't need to lock the screen rotation if you're not currently using the screen in the first place. A hardware mute switch, in my opinion, is always welcome.

Now... why we can't have the option to change it back... that's just because it's Apple.

I don't know if this is good or not, I don't have an ipad and I can see the reason they're done it to keep it the same across the iphones and pads to come...but I can also see it being annoying....I do think I'd use the rot-lock more then mute if I had on.

Wow, you aren't kidding... spent a while talking to one of my die-hard Mac friends this weekend and he was like 'Well... can you show me how to use Windows 7? Since that's now my only choice...'.

I'm actually for the change. It unifies all the idevices button/switch behaviours.

Yes, they shouldn't have made it rot-lock in the first place then changed it after months of usage. It'll be confusing to previous owners of the device; however it was confusing to new users when it wasn't a mute switch like on all the other idevices.

Binary said,
...like on all the other idevices.

My iPod doesn't have a mute switch. So it's not exactly 'like on all other devices.'

I too use the Rotation Lock button every day. It will get rather annoying to have to do it on screen instead of a very quick and accessible button press.

chadlachlanross said,

My iPod doesn't have a mute switch. So it's not exactly 'like on all other devices.'

I too use the Rotation Lock button every day. It will get rather annoying to have to do it on screen instead of a very quick and accessible button press.


That's because your ipod touch is too thin for a switch...

chadlachlanross said,

My iPod doesn't have a mute switch. So it's not exactly 'like on all other devices.'

I too use the Rotation Lock button every day. It will get rather annoying to have to do it on screen instead of a very quick and accessible button press.

I didn't realize the touches didn't have a switch.

I'm glad for the change to make it as it was planned form the beginning. I can mute the system sounds with the switch when I go into a meeting without having to turn the device on first like before just so I could use the volume control.

but but but.... they managed to very cleverly implement it already! there is a mute button (holding down the 'down volume', and there's a switch to hold the orientation, which is so useful.

The number of times i'm using my iphone in bed now and mute the thing trying to lock the screen because *i* happen to be horizontal annoys me! If anything I was hoping they'd port the functionality to iPhone, not remove it from iPad

Why not just make a single button press act as screen lock and holding it down act as mute? - Stevie boy can then claim it as a new revolution feature, perhaps he could even patent it.

lt8480 said,
Why not just make a single button press act as screen lock and holding it down act as mute? - Stevie boy can then claim it as a new revolution feature, perhaps he could even patent it.

Because it's a switch, not a button.

Binary said,

Because it's a switch, not a button.

It could still be flicked on then off (with less than 2 second duration) to act as mute or something.

I don't understand why you can't have an option on how to use the button.... Can someone perhaps explain to me why the consumer can't be given the option? Or is this just Jobs saying "We do what we like, if you don't like it, screw you"?

It just seems to me Apple is always treating its consumers with contempt, or atleast little respect, but people keep falling over themselves to buy their products and defend their actions. Is it because Apple is seen as trendy? If you own an iPad you're an awesome go-getter? Almost like tech-based elitism?

Yup, that is exactly Apple's policy; "Our way, or the highway".

And a lot of people continue to buy their products because they THINK they look cool. Someone on this forum once said that even if Steve were to crap in a bag and call it iCrap or iPoop, people would still buy it!

I think this is silly when it's just next to the volume buttons anyway. How hard is it to press the volume down button?

And if it has to work like that, they could at least give it one of those dual function behaviors, like click = mute, press and hold for 2 secs = lock. It's such a simple problem to solve that I don't understand why there has to be a problem.

Why is a Mute switch even necessary? It's not like it's hard to just turn the sound all the way down. I always have mine all the way down unless I am specifically listening to something. I do use the orientation lock on a pretty regular basis though.

RichardK said,
Why is a Mute switch even necessary? It's not like it's hard to just turn the sound all the way down. I always have mine all the way down unless I am specifically listening to something. I do use the orientation lock on a pretty regular basis though.
Seriously! I found out all you have to do is hold the volume down for like half a second and it will go from wherever it is to mute.

RichardK said,
Why is a Mute switch even necessary? It's not like it's hard to just turn the sound all the way down. I always have mine all the way down unless I am specifically listening to something. I do use the orientation lock on a pretty regular basis though.

If you're using headphones and the sound needs to be at a certain level (e.g more sensitive) it's much easier to mute/unmute than fiddle with volume. I still don't see why he wouldn't want to allow people to program the button.

carmatic said,
more reason to have the iPad jailbroken, i guess
Nope, no thanks. I have never understood why anyone would trust these people that use exploits to bypass the built-in protections put in place by Apple. You are just asking for information to be stolen, or your device to be rendered unusable.

RichardK said,
Nope, no thanks. I have never understood why anyone would trust these people that use exploits to bypass the built-in protections put in place by Apple. You are just asking for information to be stolen, or your device to be rendered unusable.

Err yeah OK then Richard.....

RichardK said,
Nope, no thanks. I have never understood why anyone would trust these people that use exploits to bypass the built-in protections put in place by Apple. You are just asking for information to be stolen, or your device to be rendered unusable.

And information isn't stolen from normal app store apps? good luck with that one LOL

RichardK said,
Nope, no thanks. I have never understood why anyone would trust these people that use exploits to bypass the built-in protections put in place by Apple. You are just asking for information to be stolen, or your device to be rendered unusable.

Quick, everyone get the tin foil hats!

RichardK said,
Nope, no thanks. I have never understood why anyone would trust these people that use exploits to bypass the built-in protections put in place by Apple. You are just asking for information to be stolen, or your device to be rendered unusable.

You should lay off the koolaid.

RichardK said,
Nope, no thanks. I have never understood why anyone would trust these people that use exploits to bypass the built-in protections put in place by Apple. You are just asking for information to be stolen, or your device to be rendered unusable.

No...it's called using what you bought (and paid money for) the way YOU want to. Who are these companies to tell us what we can do with what we've purchased? And honestly, as someone has already pointed out, you have more privacy concerns with app store apps, than with hacker tools.

RichardK said,
Nope, no thanks. I have never understood why anyone would trust these people that use exploits to bypass the built-in protections put in place by Apple. You are just asking for information to be stolen, or your device to be rendered unusable.

lol

RichardK said,
Nope, no thanks. I have never understood why anyone would trust these people that use exploits to bypass the built-in protections put in place by Apple. You are just asking for information to be stolen, or your device to be rendered unusable.

Where do you get such crazy ideas and this paranoia from?