iPhone 5 announced


The iPhone 5 features an elongated 4-inch screen as well as other hardware and software improvements.

After months of speculation, Apple has announced the iPhone 5 at a press event in San Francisco on Wednesday. The features of the new iPhone match images and information leaked in recent months, including an elongated 4-inch screen with a 16:9 aspect ratio.

Phil Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of worldwide marketing, announced the new phone at the event, saying the new phone "is made entirely of glass and aluminum – it's designed and built to an exacting level of standard unlike anything we, or anyone in our industry, have made before."

The most noticeable change compared to previous versions of the iPhone is the iPhone 5's new 4-inch, 1136x640-resolution display which features a pixel density of 326ppi. Touch sensors have also been integrated into the display, as previously rumored, creating a thinner profile and more responsive input.

From a performance perspective, Apple's new iPhone will be powered by an A6 processor, which the company says will be twice as fast for both general processing and graphics rendering when compared to the A5 processor in the iPhone 4S. Schiller introduced Rob Murray, an executive producer at EA Studios, who agreed with Apple's performance claims and said the A6 will provide graphics that are "full console quality."

The iPhone 5 will support the same networks as the iPhone 4S – HSPA+ and DC-HSDPA – and will also support LTE. Additionally, the iPhone 5 will support the 802.11n WiFi standards of 2.4GHz and 5GHz. Battery life is largely unaffected by the new network support, as Apple claims the iPhone 5 will last for up to eight hours of web browsing on either 3G or LTE networks; talk time is also eight hours on 3G networks (LTE talk time information was not released).

Other improvements in the iPhone 5 include an enhanced microphone array and higher quality cameras. Audio quality on the iPhone 5 has been improved compared to previous iPhone iterations through the inclusion of a three-microphone array – one microphone on the bottom, a second on the front and a third on the back. The phone will feature a rear-facing, 8-megapixel camera with a dynamic low light mode and precision lens alignment. Panorama photographs of up to 28 megapixels will be possible through the rear-facing camera. The front-facing camera has also been improved and is capable of 1080p FaceTime calls.


Apple's new Lightning connector replaces the company's previous 30-pin connector.

Besides the phone's new hardware, Apple announced a new digital connector for the device called "Lightning." The Lightning connector will replace the 30-pin connector Apple has used since the original iPod and features an easy-to-use design that's 80 percent smaller than the 30-pin connector. For devices that use the old 30-pin port, however, Apple has created an adapter to connect through the new interface. Also being updated for the first time since the original iPod are the company's earbuds. The company says the new earbuds, which it's calling "EarPods," will offer improved audio quality and comfort.

From a software perspective, the iPhone 5 will run on Apple's iOS 6 platform and include new features that make use of the longer display. Safari, for instance, has been improved to make use of the iPhone 5's elongated display with a "fullscreen mode" when the device is horizontal.

The iPhone 5 will be available in white or black and come in 16GB, 32GB and 64GB versions. Pricing with a two-year contract begins at $199 for the 16GB version and increases $100 for each increase in storage size. Pre-orders begin Friday, and the device will be available to customers in the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Australia, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore on Sept. 21.

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I think Apple have screwed up BIG-TIME with this! They and the general public may realize that their hardware/software is not so great and how limited you are with it! - That is why they tried to screw Samsung over, they knew how much better they were so tried to make some cash out of it!!!

Steve Jobs said,
This site is really sad. You should all go shoot yourselves honestly.

lmfao
Steve, it's newWin. GTFO and go to engadget.

or the ones who missed it. The iPhone 5 is notthe thinnest model phone sold. The Galaxy S is thinner. However, you need to be aware thre are 4 models of the Galaxy S III:

The are as follows based on this link - http://www.gsmarena.com/result...;sName=Samsung+Galaxy+S+III

i9300 is the International version and it i 8.6MM thick - GSM
T999 for T-Mobile USA, 8.6MM thick - Also GSM
i747 for AT&T USA, 8.6MM thick - Also GSM
i535 for Verizon USA, 7.6MM thick - CDMA/LTE.


Here is my support fo myrant - http://www.gsmarena.com/result...;sName=Samsung+Galaxy+S+III

My assumption is for somereason the GSM model are thicker because maybe the GSM hardware is larger vs CDMA. Either way, th GS3 is equally as thin as the iPhone 5 thus APple doesn't have the thinnest phone. They lied. I am not saying they did so on purpose. I am just showing you they liekly lookedat one mode and say we have them beat.

Wow, Apple now really has Samsung by their balls... No matter how many patents, no matter how many bad patent offices, no matter how many lawsuits or jury verdicts. Samsung will never copy this.... :-)

Plus, I feel sorry for all the people that simply cannot afford an iPhone. Wish I could give you all some $$ so you can truly experience what a great environment has to offer. I guess you can keep using the Android Beta for a while longer.

stevan said,
Plus, I feel sorry for all the people that simply cannot afford an iPhone. Wish I could give you all some $$ so you can truly experience what a great environment has to offer. I guess you can keep using the Android Beta for a while longer.

A lot of us can afford it.. Its just preference. I personally prefer Android. But financially, I can buy unlocked from apple anytime. A lot of users on here can.. Just don't want it.

stevan said,
How can Neowin have so many idiots that think that Galaxy 3 is 7.6 mm think?

I was going to ask the same thing.. Its 8.6mm..

Looks like a SGS III (wannabe)

time to put up the signs in town again around the CrApple store

"Careful Sheeple cross here"

Edited by , Sep 13 2012, 12:47pm :

you should have heard all the bull**** hype over all the radio stations about it in australia, **** i had to keep switching stations it was just full of absolutle bull****.

my last apple product was a quick refund asap
refuse to buy fruit based products.. no oranges, apples whatever.
I'd rather buy an <insert type of product> that is cheaper and has MORE features.

This company is the Pinnacle of products for Grandma / Noobs etc
And MS is playing catch up with the whole angle.
..products and services designed for morons
while those that crave advanced features options etc are left out in the cold !

When i pass by people on the street with those white headphones in
i laugh to myself because i paid probably a small minute fraction of what they did
and i have more features and options they they will ever have lol
Enjoy the fruit stuff but sorry I'll pass..

edit:
A perfect example of what i was saying is when i went to a pawn shop
last year and inquired to see if they would take my player with after market headphones.
The person said NO before i could take it out of my pocket..
They said is it an Apple brand one ? ..then NO
I laughed and said my player can play flac files, and about 10 other things
and i also added i have high quality Sony head phones.
The person said sorry nothing else sells but Apple crap
LOL what a joke.. people are idiots

To be honest, I don't like the new design that much. Looks like someone took the 4S and stretched it. They should have increased the width also a bit. Also, the 2 tone colour at the back looks a bit tacky. I have no problem with 2 tone colour designs per se, but they could have done a better job.

guess i better go sell my gs3 and get this ..lmao!

they call this revolutionary? welcome to a phone size that was popular 2 years ago. i cannot believe people will waste their money on such minor spec bumps. ill stick to my galaxy s 3 with jellybean.

smooth3006 said,
guess i better go sell my gs3 and get this ..lmao!

they call this revolutionary? welcome to a phone size that was popular 2 years ago. i cannot believe people will waste their money on such minor spec bumps. ill stick to my galaxy s 3 with jellybean.


Not just revolucionary, also is magical and it have andvanced stuff never seen before... like 4G LTE!!1 do u know what is dat btw??? k nevermind, i just know apples invented it and its good and it just works

WinRT said,

Not just revolucionary, also is magical and it have andvanced stuff never seen before... like 4G LTE!!1 do u know what is dat btw??? k nevermind, i just know apples invented it and its good and it just works

For your information: Apple currently gets it's 4G LTE Technology for The New IPad from Qualcomm, NOT Samsung! I suspect that the IPhone 5 will be no different, which means that Samsung won't have Legal Standing if they do Sue Apple over 4G LTE! Get your facts straight! Just FYI!

Jose_49: I was NOT bashing Apple, as I am an Apple Developer Program Member, I was simply letting the News Department know that 4G LTE is Data Only according to Apple's Webite.

kevpan815 said,
Jose_49: I was NOT bashing Apple, as I am an Apple Developer Program Member, I was simply letting the News Department know that 4G LTE is Data Only according to Apple's Webite.

For most providers, it is.. Even in Canada, you make a call, it drops. A lot of providers are using circuit switched so, GSM or CDMA.

kevpan815 said,
Jose_49: I was NOT bashing Apple, as I am an Apple Developer Program Member, I was simply letting the News Department know that 4G LTE is Data Only according to Apple's Webite.

I didn´t specify name .

If you read most comments on this site, you'll know what I'm talkinga about

I don't know what's all this fuss about. Seriously. I can't seem to understand why people would bash this phone much. (Yes, a reason can be fanboism to an extent) But the phone itself is not bad.

It is not going to run android, but iOS. Which means that the hardware inside will perform incredibly well with it.

So really the iPhone 5, is 10cm instead of 9cm, is a little thinner, has a new doc connector and that's about it? Also I love the way US companies, who are only catching onto the sim idea now are changing the way sims have been for a long time. NO ONE wants nanosim or picosim, we actually want the ability to be able to change it at some point

Neowin, there is an error in your news article. If you go to a certain page on Apple.com: It clearly tells you that LTE issued for Data Only, and that Only GSM is used for talking on the Telephone for the AT&T Model, and Only CDMA is used for talking on the Telephone with Verizon Wireless and Sprint Models. Please correct your News Article A.S.A.P. Just FYI.

Looks like samsung SG3 is outdated now. It using old arm cpu that does have power efficiency that iphone 5 will have.

Melfster said,
Looks like samsung SG3 is outdated now. It using old arm cpu that does have power efficiency that iphone 5 will have.

spoken like a true isheep. you must be nuts to think the galaxy s 3 is outdated. it's the best phone out there and will be for quite awhile.

smooth3006 said,

spoken like a true isheep. you must be nuts to think the galaxy s 3 is outdated. it's the best phone out there and will be for quite awhile.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

omgben said,

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

Response expected from yet another purebreed iSheep. Lumias FTW anyways... ur welcome 8)

Reminds me of MS releasing IE7.
Starting to play catch-up.

The Hare is starting to run after the Tortoise.
And its at the same time throwing banana peels hoping to slow the Tortoise down or paralyse it.
One Hare against many Tortoises.

The only thing i didn'treally liked it, is the change in the bus connector, cuz i have to get the new 30 pin adapter. But somehow it's worth it, faster data transfers. but still ugly with old speakers set and car stereos.

I was hoping there would be a major change, I wanted to change my blackberry to a nice new iPhone but now I'm certain it'll be the Lumia 920.
Each new phone in the UK has been priced £499 for the 16GB model, but apple have decided to charge us MORE £529. Not that they don't make enough money out of the UK with their silly price conversions! apple have disappointed me, and everyone else on the release of this 'new' phone. If Steve Jobs were here still, I reckon this would be a different scenario. Things need to change.

Well the most exciting thing out of Apple today was a slim possibility that the new major version of iTunes won't suck as much as the current version.

How is safari performance on this? most notably with things like image uploads and media handling?

Edited by bucko, Sep 12 2012, 10:11pm :

Couple things.

Most people I know do not upgrade their phone every year. Many of the people I know who are going to be getting the iPhone 5 are still using a 3GS and for them, this is a huge upgrade.

Secondly... wait, sorry wrong audience. I'll continue as I should:

OMG Apple! My Sony Rezound Vibrant Z XXXI has had these features for the past sixty years... Innovation! Nothing new here, a disaster! I bet no one will buy this!

Tiresome. Thank goodness no company makes phones to please the likes of technology site commenters.

There's significant truth to this. But there's about the same degree of truth to everything above it. Worth making the point, though.

Is it me or have Apple recent advertisement made all the Android haters think that Apple was such an innovative company? Most of the comments here are like "Nothing innovative, move on...." like you guys expected something new yet year after year you say the same thing....

On a side note, I probably be upgrading to this from my SGS II. Basically the android specs with the iOS goodness. Haters gonna hate.

Anyone know whether the iPhone5 works in either hand now without the need for a bumper?? If so a proper reason for iPhone4 users to upgrade but then again... same old tired interface from years gone by.....

I bet even the fanbois are feeling a bit humiliated by what Apple have churned out this time.

a1fie said,
Anyone know whether the iPhone5 works in either hand now without the need for a bumper?? If so a proper reason for iPhone4 users to upgrade but then again... same old tired interface from years gone by.....

I bet even the fanbois are feeling a bit humiliated by what Apple have churned out this time.

My iPhone 4 never had that issue, nor has my wife, nor my friends. Always had good reception.

As for the humiliated, from what? Do I like Apple products, yes. Do I get humiliated because it didn't live up to the hype I thought it would have, no, that would be stupid.

Bit confused, they have a wallet type app (passbook i think) in iOS 6 but no NFC to go with it....kinda seems pointless

I don't get it. I'm very anit-apple and while there's little "innovation" this seems like a solid iteration of a very well selling product. Especially the new microphone array seems good, will make my life better with finally being able to hear what iPhone users are saying to me.

So, bigger screen, 4G, faster processor, better microphone and bigger battery(?). This is pretty much what I'd call a decent upgrade. Heck I would buy one if I didn't hate iOS with a passion.

(Imagine if Apple were to license WP and made a parallel iPhone, costing more of course due to the lack of income from its app-store, vanilla Android version should be possible too)

Coolicer said,
I don't get it. I'm very anit-apple and while there's little "innovation" this seems like a solid iteration of a very well selling product. Especially the new microphone array seems good, will make my life better with finally being able to hear what iPhone users are saying to me.

So, bigger screen, 4G, faster processor, better microphone and bigger battery(?). This is pretty much what I'd call a decent upgrade. Heck I would buy one if I didn't hate iOS with a passion.

(Imagine if Apple were to license WP and made a parallel iPhone, costing more of course due to the lack of income from its app-store, vanilla Android version should be possible too)

You're right. It is a solid feature set. It would have been up there with the best if they'd released it like 9 months ago.

The problem is apple, as usual, calling it the greatest thing since sliced bread and trying to dress it up as something exceptional. All they've done is nearly catch up with phones that have been on the market for months already.

I specifically say "nearly" because they still screw people with omissions like fixed storage and no expansion options. Their new connector and SIM card sizing is dumb too.

Considering people wait a long time due to Apple only releasing phones like once a year, by September 2013 this phone will be comically out dated.

That Apple products are reaching mythical levels of hype and are advertised as the second coming of Christ comes with buying Apple gear. That's the company, this is what they do when you give them money.

I don't care, it's not that outdated and frankly, I actually have to give Apple credit for a yearly iteration on a product. This way your shiny toy at least feels relevant for a full year before a new version (which usually isn't _that_ much better to warrant a sudden upgrade) comes out.

Heck, I'd say that even Nokia should stick with like 4-5 tiers of Windows Phones and update them yearly. (Absolute top-end, high-end, mid-end, low-end and very-low end).

Also I would be a complete hypocrite if I gave flak to Apple for non-user swappable storage. The "nano-sim" is going the wrong way and I hope that every other vendor will stick to micro-sim for a while.

The new connector is a way forward and must have been introduced at some point. Plus I'm pretty sure they wanted more space for speakers and whatnot.

I just find that people are overreacting at the unfulfilled mythical hype. And the rest is Apple, which is a marketing company by heart.

Seriously!
Only a few LTE networks in Europe is using the iPhones choice of frequencies.
Nokia atleast used a fat penta-band LTE chip in their Lumia X20.

Easy choice!

I think that Apple wanted to release this design with LTE last year instead of the 4S. The LTE version 1 was not efficient enough or small enough at the time to release and instead of having poor battery life and an IOS that wasn't really offering anything really great outside of "Siri" they took a small step and upgraded the Iphone 4. The iPhone 5 looks to be last years ideas with very little way in innovation or design changes.

The dock connector and nano-sim is not actually helping the market but instead its making it change to fit Apple's world. They were able to push the standard over Microsoft, Nokia and the likes to use the nano-sim design. They have not given in to Micro-USB standardizations either.

I am sure they will sell a record number of them as they usually do but then again I hope I am wrong. I hope a weak sales number will get them off their high horse and innovate. The market is not acting negative on the news but its not exactly going bullish on it either.

- 2 times the performance
- Better battery life than 4s
- Bigger screen with 44% better color saturation (full sRBG) than the 4s (which has the best screen on the market)
- Better cameras including a 720p front facing
- 3 Microphones for better noise cancellation paired with higher magnet count earphone piece for more natural voice tones.
- Takes pictures so fast you can just swipe the camera across the skyline quickly to make a panorama.
- Smaller reversible connector
- Huge upgrades to Siri
- Maps is extremely useful now with full on navigation for vehicle or walking and 100 millions points of interest.

Thats "it".

Absolutely getting one.

spedanden said,
- 2 times the performance
- Better battery life than 4s
- Bigger screen with 44% better color saturation (full sRBG) than the 4s (which has the best screen on the market)
- Better cameras including a 720p front facing
- 3 Microphones for better noise cancellation paired with higher magnet count earphone piece for more natural voice tones.
- Takes pictures so fast you can just swipe the camera across the skyline quickly to make a panorama.
- Smaller reversible connector
- Huge upgrades to Siri
- Maps is extremely useful now with full on navigation for vehicle or walking and 100 millions points of interest.

Thats "it".

Absolutely getting one.

Sure, compared to the iPhone 4S, it's an upgrade (though a very minor one). The iPhone 5 should have been what is now the iPhone 4S. If you compare the iPhone 5 to the competition, it is falling behind in terms of hardware, and features. What a disappointing release...

spedanden said,
- 2 times the performance
- Better battery life than 4s
- Bigger screen with 44% better color saturation (full sRBG) than the 4s (which has the best screen on the market)
- Better cameras including a 720p front facing
- 3 Microphones for better noise cancellation paired with higher magnet count earphone piece for more natural voice tones.
- Takes pictures so fast you can just swipe the camera across the skyline quickly to make a panorama.
- Smaller reversible connector
- Huge upgrades to Siri
- Maps is extremely useful now with full on navigation for vehicle or walking and 100 millions points of interest.

Thats "it".

Absolutely getting one.

Enjoy those features that many of us with our android phones have had for months already. I'm sure you don't mind paying more for the apple logo though

technikal said,

Enjoy those features that many of us with our android phones have had for months already. I'm sure you don't mind paying more for the apple logo though

It's not about first for me, It's about best. I don't like lag between switching apps, and I don't like the camera on any android phones. Also if the screen now has full sRBG then it KILLS anything out right now, period. AMOLED just doesn't hold up to IPS. I guess well see when it comes out how it compares.

spedanden said,

It's not about first for me, It's about best. I don't like lag between switching apps, and I don't like the camera on any android phones. Also if the screen now has full sRBG then it KILLS anything out right now, period. AMOLED just doesn't hold up to IPS. I guess well see when it comes out how it compares.

Your choice and your money.

Rest assured though, you'll definitely be forking out more money for a similar or inferior product from apple. Not even close to the pinnacle any more.

technikal said,

Your choice and your money.

Rest assured though, you'll definitely be forking out more money for a similar or inferior product from apple. Not even close to the pinnacle any more.

At least I will not have to hand out money every year to assure I get the latest OS though. Will see what Microsoft does with updates with WP8, but kind of sad my girlfriends Droid 3 will never see Android 4.x and it's a 13 month old phone. I would like a little bit of OS upgrade insurance from the phone, sucks for the WP7 crowd but completely different architecture so understandable. If I am going to have the phone for 2 years, I want OS upgrades for at least that mount of time, and Apple is even pulling a new one with the 3GS getting iOS 6, usually a phone that old from them wouldn't. I'll be following the mobile OS market closely in about 2 years when my upgrade from the iPhone 5 is ready for subsidized pricing. I'm already looking to ditch my iPad 2 for a Surface tablet, might be getting whatever WP product is out at the time. I've already jumped to Windows 8 on my desktop and laptop and like the new UI changes so WP series might be to my liking.

Apple is starting to lag behind yes...will see where things are at in a couple of years, upgrading my 4 to the 5 will be a solid upgrade. I'm mostly interested in the Windows Phone, but will have to see where things are at.

That and there is just something when the software and hardware is made for each other, making a great fluid experience. It seems Microsoft manages it with WP devices as well, which is nice.

If they have any sense Nokia should do an all-out marketing blitz with a side-by-side comparison pitching the Lumia series against the iPhone 5

No NFC, i think ill pass on this phone. Looks like the Nokia phone is the one i want. Now when does it get released?

Edited by The_Observer, Sep 12 2012, 7:40pm :

First I should tell you my theory about Apple. Apple has had two goals in the last 10 years. One was to make Microsoft look dated, and the other was to copy Windows success with the iOS. And over the course of the last 10 years, Apple accomplished both of those goals. And now they are completely lost.

Sebastian Swann said,
First I should tell you my theory about Apple. Apple has had two goals in the last 10 years. One was to make Microsoft look dated, and the other was to copy Windows success with the iOS. And over the course of the last 10 years, Apple accomplished both of those goals. And now they are completely lost.

That was the main moto of steve jobs and that he's gone they lost it.

hahahahahahaha how PATHETIC a release in comparison to the competition!!!!! Blown out of the water apple, **** you.

And the nanos? GET A GRIP YOU LUMIA COPYING D1CK5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is disappointing. Was expecting a whole lot of features. Only slightly bigger screen, a new connector and the rest is plain blah blah. Sticking with my Old Galaxy S II until Lumia 920 comes out.

lt8480 said,
http://www.apple.com/

I believe Steve Jobs passing away, and Microsoft partnering with Nokia were both more significant to the development of the iPhone.

Now that Steve Jobs is gone, things have changed. Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs and I fear the Capt of the failboat.

ahinson said,
Now that Steve Jobs is gone, things have changed. Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs and I fear the Capt of the failboat.

I'd imagine that Steve was probably working on this. We might've gotten a smoother presentation with Steve still around, but I don't think the device would be that different if he were still here.

Never thought i would see this day come but the iPhone 5 was as much of a disappointment as i was expecting, part of me was hoping for that one more thing or a few more hidden features. That presentation was boring and safe.

So the new iPhone 5 is slightly bigger, twice as fast with a new dock connector. Wow that is poor.

Ive been an iPhone user for 5 years since the release of the original iPhone in 2007. I went from iPhone to 3G to 4 and each one felt like a hefty upgrade.

The iPhone 4 was a great upgrade, it was massively redesigned, had a massively superior camera, retina display, face time, etc.. it was a big upgrade for a full release.

The 4S was kind of meh to me but then it is a S release so it follows the tick tock / revolutionary evolutionary so i didn't expect much.

I am surprised apple haven't done more and are simply resting on their laurels, it's ok the masses will buy em because it's an iPhone we only have to make a couple of safe changes.

Ive used an Samsung S3 and i was blown away, there are so many refinements and features in the phone. I used a Lumia Windows 7 phone, it was fresh and very very fluid/fast i liked it.These are the phones that Apple are up against and they just haven't responded at all.

Of course it's easy to critise, however i will add what i would have expected from apple.

NFC top of my list, it's being rolled out slowly but surely across the UK, Boots (pharmacy/food shop) and McDonalds support it as a method of payment, an product as a big as the iPhone would have forced other high street shops to roll this out for micro payments.

However i would also add that NFC is needed for phone to phone communcation. S-Beam on the S3 is immense, i loved it. Got a Map location/destination, a photo, a video, a contact etc.. simply tape the phones and tap the screen, the most painless method of communication ive ever seen on a phone. NFC would have opened up a massive market in Apps. I would have loved to be able to share things quickly with friends and colleagues with a tap of the device.

However again this could be taken further, look at the Lumia 920 simply tap the hardware in their case a boombox and the music is automatically transfered and streamed to the device wow, the applications of NFC are simply endless, apple missed a big trick with this.

The next is a redesign, simply stretching the iPhone is not enough, i would have expected them to push it further and even perhaps take on the looks of the iPad with a nice alminum phone, this would also keep it in design with the rest of apple products such as the mac.

Faster charging/better battery, i don't care about my phone being thin and like someone else said on macrumors im not interested in this race to make phones as thin as a piece of paper. The thickness of a phone is not a problem, however a battery that would last a good 2 days would have been nice whilst also not taking hours to charge.

Better camera controls in the software, the S3 had burst firing, best picture mode, visual effects, better controls over the camera such as exposure, the iPhone controls look so basic when compared.

If possible a method of optical zoom on the camera, no other phone (as far as im aware does this) they only do digital zoom which is rubbish.

Widgets or something, one this i noticed on the S3 is that just by glancing i could see a lot of information, weather, whats playing etc.. the same can be said of the Windows phones as well. However we are still limited to the basic icon grid view.

More of a software thing, but quick access through the notification screen to toggle, bluetooth, wifi, data and volume, it's annoying having to go through the settings.

I could go on by won't bore anyone much longer.

What i will say is that after this poor announcement and after being an iPhone user for 5 years my next phone is going to be a Samsung Galaxy Note2. All of the features of the S3 with the ability to write down lots of notes and view media on a nice big screen, i can't wait.

REM2000 said,
<snip>
Welcome to the dark side

The iPhone 5 is truly playing catch up. In fact, all the features they have just added have existed in many other phones for a couple of years. Apple is starting to fall behind...

REM2000 said,
snipped

Agree about NFC, it is a mush have feature on any new high end device.

Paying, travelling and communicating with other devices without having to "connect" or "login" and without carrying a wallet will be the future.

<snip />

I applaud you for being unbiased in your dedication to Apple. Unfortunately, you're rare amongst the Apple sheeple community.

I own an Android device, but may I suggest you look into the Lumia 920. The Android space doesn't need your support.

ahinson said,
<snip />

I applaud you for being unbiased in your dedication to Apple. Unfortunately, you're rare amongst the Apple sheeple community.

I own an Android device, but may I suggest you look into the Lumia 920. The Android space doesn't need your support.

It's not so much the support it's just that the Note2 ticks a lot of boxes for me, i love the size of the screen (carrying it is not a problem) and more importantly i like the idea of the stylus and using it as a notepad.

I watched the Nokia event and it's an exciting device. I like the social aspects of the phone and if i was a more social person on my phones then it would have been a perfect fit. I liked the wireless charging and the fresh interface but i jotted down what i wanted from a phone. The chief way i communicate to my friends and family is through SMS and email, whilst the nokia can easily do this, the rest of the social integration had no hold, where as the note taking and information management was a big draw, i am also looking forward to the larger screen for viewing web pages, video and photos.

My Sammy S3 blows this thing away. This is what all the Apple fans have been waiting for............. fail big time.

paesan said,
My Sammy S3 blows this thing away. This is what all the Apple fans have been waiting for............. fail big time.

Oh ****! You already compared their performance. You're lucky!

Dot Matrix said,
Lumia > iPhone. Apple has truly l;ost their edge.

I really don't see the edge that the Lumina has! It's a matter of preference here!

JHBrown said,

I really don't see the edge that the Lumina has! It's a matter of preference here!

Better OS, better camera, wireless charging, wireless accessories... No iTunes....


Dot Matrix said,
Lumia > iPhone. Apple has truly l;ost their edge.

Perhaps they should have shown off the camera while using 6000 dollar SLR pictures and passed them off as being taken with the phone with no disclaimer.

spedanden said,

Perhaps they should have shown off the camera while using 6000 dollar SLR pictures and passed them off as being taken with the phone with no disclaimer.

We'll talk once we see hands-on for BOTH

This is why I'm ****ed off of Nokia's "deception". Now idiots will go on blabber thinking they have a weapon by saying "It's fake! The device can't do **** because it's fake!"

Did someone forget to send the NFC memo to Apple?

However they did get the wrist strap memo, but I thought Samsung owned that patent.

Rudy said,
NFC is over rated

In some places yes, but in cities NFC is a method to make small purchases, travel about and it can also act as store cards... thus removing the need for a wallet. Which with limited pockets in a suit (which I detest using the pockets for anyway) can only be a good thing. In time it will be how everywhere accepts small purchases being much more efficient than carrying change, and shops processing cash.

ahinson said,
Of course it is, but only because Apple didn't invent it, or even steal it and claim they did like most things they do. If they had NFC though, it would be the bee's knees. Am I right?

Oh the Sheeple.

I love NFC in my credit card but I fail to see why I would want it in my cell phone

Rudy said,
I love NFC in my credit card but I fail to see why I would want it in my cell phone
actually in downtown salt lake within the next few months you will be able to pay for parking (no more parking meters) using NFC. that's a pretty damn nice way to pay for parking instead of trying to dig in your unused ashtray to find quarters in a meter ۞

So basically the hipsters will get offended when you ask "Is that an iPhone 4S" because it looks the same to the naked eye.

Nexus69 said,
So basically the hipsters will get offended when you ask "Is that an iPhone 4S" because it looks the same to the naked eye.

NOPE, they just pull out the lightning charger and say "See, this is the ifruit5" /s

All this for a few more pixels that still fall short of other phone resolutions. They do this so that the next phone they can add a few more pixels and get all of their followers to buy a new phone. This ensures the success of the next phone.

Really that is all they have to do is sell the same phone with the new iPhone # and people will buy it.

I dunno. I tend to think nothing can beat plain squares ... but that's just me it seems Neowin is full of people who think plain squares are revolutionary.

lt8480 said,

iPods - it is truly hideous

Imo the iPod is hands down the best mp3 player avalaible in Canada.

I dunno. Not to be negative, but I really tire of more of the same. Every Apple release anymore is an improvement, but nothing revolutionary, no changes to the design, etc. It's kind of getting boring...

M_Lyons10 said,
I dunno. Not to be negative, but I really tire of more of the same. Every Apple release anymore is an improvement, but nothing revolutionary, no changes to the design, etc. It's kind of getting boring...

Same with most phones nowadays!

I was expecting this release to be ripe for trolling but really it's just too easy.

They seriously want $199 on a contract for the 16GB version?

MONTHS ago I got my HTC Raider for $0 and it already had LTE, 1080p camera, and I can actually add storage to it if I decide too. As usual it seems the iphone is locked down to try to make you pay even more for the higher storage.

ttterminator said,
Did it just say $199 for 16GB IPhone or i'm mistaken????
It's always been the price, the 4S was the same price. But yes it's will be $199 for the iPhone 5 (with contract of course)

Rudy said,
It's always been the price, the 4S was the same price. But yes it's will be $199 for the iPhone 5 (with contract of course)

Then they sell there phones in india for 6 times greater price. Right now IPhone 4s is 57000 rupees that is over $1000.. Man i'm never gonna buy this ****.

ttterminator said,

Then they sell there phones in india for 6 times greater price. Right now IPhone 4s is 57000 rupees that is over $1000.. Man i'm never gonna buy this ****.

$199 is with a contract.

riot said,
Was the fingerprint reader rumor true?

Can't remember seeing anything about it on the presentations but then again I didn't saw the first minutes...

I think it looks great, I was planning on sticking with my 4S for a while longer but I might try to sell it to get the 5

While I respect your opinion entirely, it might do the rest of the community some good if you could elaborate on just what it is that keeps you coming back to Apple for more.

For example, if you think the iPhone is the best looking device available, the way I just love the VW Golfs, that'd be a perfectly valid reason to choose it over others.

I'd like to know if someone in your position could also acknowledge that hardware from other manufacturers is, in this case, superior, but you choose to stick to an iPhone because you're heavily invested i the ecoystem, or can't bear to switch to an unfamiliar UI.

If what I see is it, then I'm dissapointed with Apple. I thought iPhone 5 was going to be something big. This is exactly what TechieXP said, iPhone4XL.

Boring Design..!! Nothing new or innovative.. This makes Windows Phone 8 even more interesting..!!

I am afraid.. people still rushed to buy this piece of crap...!!

GoodBye Focus, hello IPhone 5! The reason I'm going back is because of the quality Apple puts into the device. My Windows phones have all felt like cheap plastic junk!

JHBrown said,
GoodBye Focus, hello IPhone 5! The reason I'm going back is because of the quality Apple puts into the device. My Windows phones have all felt like cheap plastic junk!
Stopping buying Samsung and then throwing Windows under the bus! Ever heard of Nokia?

Nexus69 said,
Stopping buying Samsung and then throwing Windows under the bus! Ever heard of Nokia?

In the US, I believe Nokia Lumias are only under AT&T, which is a garbage carrier and thus, not really an option.

dead.cell said,

In the US, I believe Nokia Lumias are only under AT&T, which is a garbage carrier and thus, not really an option.

HUH?

dead.cell said,

In the US, I believe Nokia Lumias are only under AT&T, which is a garbage carrier and thus, not really an option.

T-Mobile sells them as well. Focus was a great phone BTW. Loved mine. Just hold out to the Lumia 920.

JHBrown said,
GoodBye Focus, hello IPhone 5! The reason I'm going back is because of the quality Apple puts into the device. My Windows phones have all felt like cheap plastic junk!

I'm about to contemplate a change from a long line of HTC phones to a Lumia, 920 of course, but I have to agree - Apple, and finally Microsoft (Surface) are the only players really forcing the industry to stop churning out cheap crap. Until Nokia, that is, who are pushing hard now perhaps out of desperation.

The build quality of other devices does leave much to be desired. Kudos to Apple for maintaining high manufacturing standards on ALL their hardware - in my opinion it's their only redeeming quality.

Shouldn't this just be called the iPhone 4SS? Apple is quickly falling behind, a year from now they will need a big change. Can they do it, will they even attempt to (next year)? They could just keep living off outdated software just providing small updates until they end up like Blackberry or Nokia.

Next year they can do something entirely different. I'm at a loss to understand why they're not pushing other aspects of the phone further, but there's no reason so believe they can't do something amazing any time they please. If this one doesn't sell well, they could even push out a iP6 in 6 months.

Of course this doesn't change the fact that this iteration seems lackluster, and it'd surely be interesting to find out what lead them to this.

So far many of the listed features only equal my Galaxy S III - shoot pictures while recording video? Already have. Panoramic shots? Already have. 720P camera on the front, already have and its at 30FPS, which is the same as Apple saying 720P HD.

1136 x 640? LOL @ 326PPI? They increased the screen size, but the pixel density remained the same. Well thats because the screen only gained 0.05" of more space. LOL. Even tho the PPI of 306 on my SGS3 is lower, i have bigger screen at 4.8" and higher res at 1280 x 720.

They claimed the iPhone is the thinnest phone at 7.6 MM...LIARS...its one of the thinnest. the GS3 is also 7.6mm thin.

Apple, a whole 8hrs of talk time? I get at least 11hrs. My standby time is nearly 3x's as long,

I also can add 64GB of storage and it will cost me less vs the iPhone 5 with it. The retail cost of 64GB is about $75 vs Apple charging $100. So based on retail cost of the iPhone 5 at 899.99 for 64GB, I paid $650 for my phone and it will cost me $75more for 64GB of more storage in addition to my 16GB onboard. SGS3 wins here. I can't wait to do a side by side comparison to show how Apple comes up short yet again.

Enjoy the iPhone 4XL...errr 5

Finally someone who takes the time to explain why he thinks the iPhone 5 is boring.

Kudos to you TechieXP

TechieXP said,
They claimed the iPhone is the thinnest phone at 7.6 MM...LIARS...its one of the thinnest. the GS3 is also 7.6mm thin.

You might want to call Samsung 'cause they seem to think that their Galaxy S III is 8.6 mm thick
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxys3/specifications.html

The iPhone 5 is 7.6 mm thin, as mentioned in the press release and the specs sheet:
http://www.apple.com/pr/librar...le-Introduces-iPhone-5.html
http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html

jubbbird said,

I may be wrong, but that 8mm on the diagram isn't the thickness. It seems to be the bezel width or something.

Cser look? You seem correct. Doesn't matter though, they still lied. The Motorola Droid Rzr is 7.1MM thick. The Galaxy S III comes in country/carrier variants.

Let me explain

The i9300 is the International one which sports the Quadcore package us the new Sxynos processor. It is 8.6MM thick. So yes the iPhone 5 is thinner than this model. The phone is thicker to make room for a larger SoC.

However the i747 model is the dualcore model that isfr AT&T USA it is also 8.6MM thick. Not sure why tho.

The T999 went t T-Mobile USA, and it is also 8.6MM thick.
The i535 went to Verizon USA, and it is 7.6MM thick

I can only assume GSM based hardware is somehow bigger CDMA/LTE hardware. As al 3 GSM based models are all thicker vs the CDMA model.

So anyways, the iPhone 5 is ONE of the thinnest model phone sold, it sint THE thinnest model sold. Aple is such liars and the fans just sit with their mouths wide open as Apple just craps in their face and they lick their lips with love.

a0me said,

You might want to call Samsung 'cause they seem to think that their Galaxy S III is 8.6 mm thick
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxys3/specifications.html

The iPhone 5 is 7.6 mm thin, as mentioned in the press release and the specs sheet:
http://www.apple.com/pr/librar...le-Introduces-iPhone-5.html
http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html

I am aware...there is more than ONE Galaxy S III
The one you are looking at is teh i9300 which si the Internaional model. It si not the only model. See below.

However the i747 model is the dualcore model that isfr AT&T USA it is also 8.6MM thick. Not sure why tho.

The T999 went t T-Mobile USA, and it is also 8.6MM thick.
The i535 went to Verizon USA, and it is 7.6MM thick

a0me said,

You might want to call Samsung 'cause they seem to think that their Galaxy S III is 8.6 mm thick
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxys3/specifications.html

The iPhone 5 is 7.6 mm thin, as mentioned in the press release and the specs sheet:
http://www.apple.com/pr/librar...le-Introduces-iPhone-5.html
http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html

http://www.gsmarena.com/result...;sName=Samsung+Galaxy+S+III

Yes the i9300 is 8.6
There are 3 other variations...the i535 that went to Verizon is 7.6MM.
The other 2, ae also 8.6. The CDMA version is thinner than the other 3.

TechieXP said,

I am aware...there is more than ONE Galaxy S III
The one you are looking at is teh i9300 which si the Internaional model. It si not the only model. See below.

However the i747 model is the dualcore model that isfr AT&T USA it is also 8.6MM thick. Not sure why tho.

The T999 went t T-Mobile USA, and it is also 8.6MM thick.
The i535 went to Verizon USA, and it is 7.6MM thick


You're probably right.
I was assuming that the official Samsung website would have the most accurate info about their own products, but apparently if you're an Android customer, you need to scour the web in order to get such basic info as the thickness of your phone. Appalling.

briangw said,
225 hours of standby life? Heh, that must not include real-world usage.

Do you understand the meaning of "standby"?

a0me said,

Do you understand the meaning of "standby"?

Yeah, meaning locked and not doing anything and I'm sure by their definition, nothing running in the background. Still, if there are apps resident in the background memory, I dare you to prove to me that the phone will stay on for 225 hours.

cant wait for it, when they talk about innovation it's more to do with design... of course this means little to us as it's 'just a bit thinner' but they obviously try to sell it with the work they done to make it how it is.

i think the longer aspect is great, i totally agree about it supposed to fit in your hand, the galaxy 3 phone is an absolute outrageous size.

My upgrade is here in a month, cant wait.

what a disappointment.. still can't wait for the stupid media to celebrate this revolutionary device
Lumia 920 here I come

srslykev said,
what a disappointment.. still can't wait for the stupid media to celebrate this revolutionary device

In Portugal it already did... It's tagged has being breaking news in one of the biggest online newspapers...

Is that it!

And this

"iPhone 5 and iOS 6, the biggest things to happen for iPhone since iCloud. I am so incredibly proud of everyone at Apple."

Edited by Riggers, Sep 12 2012, 6:14pm :

Ok so its basically the 4S with a longer screen, yeah thats innovation for ya. Im getting more and more dissapointed with apple. Was expecting something totally new designwise but they keep on treading in old tracks with the design. Made up my mind, it will be a Nokia 920 instead, now THATS innovation.

This is so **** it's actually funny.

Literally nothing exciting or better about it.

LTE? got it.
1080p camera? got it.
maps? lol k.
lightning connector? a must have feature!

The new iPhone will run on iOS 6 and comes with A6 processor and it is the 6th generation of iPhone. No one really knows why it is called iPhone 5. If it is because iPhone 4S was just an iteration of iPhone 4 and therefore it doesn't count, then by this logic iPhone 3GS was an iteration of iPhone 3G and iPhone 4 should have been called iPhone 3.

AtriusNY said,
The new iPhone will run on iOS 6 and comes with A6 processor and it is the 6th generation of iPhone. No one really knows why it is called iPhone 5. If it is because iPhone 4S was just an iteration of iPhone 4 and therefore it doesn't count, then by this logic iPhone 3GS was an iteration of iPhone 3G and iPhone 4 should have been called iPhone 3.

I hope sony sues them for this. They have been using this feature for over a year now.

Soldiers33 said,

I hope sony sues them for this. They have been using this feature for over a year now.

oops was mesant to be comment above this one.

AtriusNY said,
The new iPhone will run on iOS 6 and comes with A6 processor and it is the 6th generation of iPhone. No one really knows why it is called iPhone 5. If it is because iPhone 4S was just an iteration of iPhone 4 and therefore it doesn't count, then by this logic iPhone 3GS was an iteration of iPhone 3G and iPhone 4 should have been called iPhone 3.

No one is going to bring out phone names in this order: iPhone (1) > 3G (2) > 3GS (2.1) > 3 (2.2)

AtriusNY said,
The new iPhone will run on iOS 6 and comes with A6 processor and it is the 6th generation of iPhone. No one really knows why it is called iPhone 5. If it is because iPhone 4S was just an iteration of iPhone 4 and therefore it doesn't count, then by this logic iPhone 3GS was an iteration of iPhone 3G and iPhone 4 should have been called iPhone 3.

The numbering refers to each major redesign. They shot themselves in the foot when they named the first major redesign the '3G' (because of adding 3G), and since then they have been incrementing the number by one with every major redesign. It's really not hard to understand. Expect a 5S next year..

AtriusNY said,
The new iPhone will run on iOS 6 and comes with A6 processor and it is the 6th generation of iPhone. No one really knows why it is called iPhone 5. If it is because iPhone 4S was just an iteration of iPhone 4 and therefore it doesn't count, then by this logic iPhone 3GS was an iteration of iPhone 3G and iPhone 4 should have been called iPhone 3.

It's really not that hard to understand why they called it the iPhone 5. It's the next major redesign after the iPhone 4. It doesn't make sense to jump to the iPhone 6 because the version of the OS and name of the CPU both happen to contain the number 6. And the fact that it's the 6th iPhone is irrelevant.

Anaron said,

It's really not that hard to understand why they called it the iPhone 5. It's the next major redesign after the iPhone 4. It doesn't make sense to jump to the iPhone 6 because the version of the OS and name of the CPU both happen to contain the number 6. And the fact that it's the 6th iPhone is irrelevant.

iPhone 4 was the 3rd major redesign not the 4th. It was the 4th generation phone though.

Anaron said,

It's really not that hard to understand why they called it the iPhone 5. It's the next major redesign after the iPhone 4. It doesn't make sense to jump to the iPhone 6 because the version of the OS and name of the CPU both happen to contain the number 6. And the fact that it's the 6th iPhone is irrelevant.

Logic fail.

By that reasoning, the 4 should've been the 3 because the 3GS was a minor iteration to the 3G (which was the iPhone 2). I agree that it's not hard to understand why 5 comes after 4, what IS hard to understand is why some people (including Apple) insist on seeing the 3G as being the same as "iPhone 3" just because it has a 3 in the name.

TCLN Ryster said,

Logic fail.

By that reasoning, the 4 should've been the 3 because the 3GS was a minor iteration to the 3G (which was the iPhone 2). I agree that it's not hard to understand why 5 comes after 4, what IS hard to understand is why some people (including Apple) insist on seeing the 3G as being the same as "iPhone 3" just because it has a 3 in the name.


I don't see how that follows from my comment. Apple obviously decided to keep raising the number after the iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS in order to avoid consumer confusion. If they released the iPhone 6 instead of the iPhone 5, a lot of people would question why Apple skipped a number. The mistake you're making is assuming that Apple follows a logical naming scheme but the truth is, they don't. Also, the iPhone 3G was never called the iPhone 2 despite the fact that it was the 2nd generation iPhone. If anything is illogical, it's to assume that Apple's product names have to be linked with its generation.

Edited by Yusuf M., Sep 13 2012, 7:48am :

"There are some great enhancements to the phone app, including the ability to send an SMS or iMessage back if you can't take the call."

/sarcasm
Patent this innovation!!!
/sarcasm

Andrewoid said,
"There are some great enhancements to the phone app, including the ability to send an SMS or iMessage back if you can't take the call."

/sarcasm
Patent this innovation!!!
/sarcasm

Thanks, now my boss thinks I'm a mental case after I burst out laughing out loud to myself.

Apple, go die in a fire.

Andrewoid said,
"There are some great enhancements to the phone app, including the ability to send an SMS or iMessage back if you can't take the call."

/sarcasm
Patent this innovation!!!
/sarcasm

Cue lawsuit against Android makers in 3...2...1, since this was added to Android in 4.0.

SharpGreen said,

Cue lawsuit against Android makers in 3...2...1, since this was added to Android in 4.0.

This was in Samsung's TouchWiz on my S2 running 2.3.5.. When it rang, I had Answer, Ignore or Reject Call with message.... It would give me a few options such as,
- I am driving
- I am at the cinema
- I am in class now
- I am in meeting
- Sorry, I am busy. Call back later.
- or -
- Tap Create new message to compose a new message.

no-sweat said,

CURRRRRRRRRRRSEEEEEE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But it.... "just works" which is great for me

Now that this has been announced Apple will start suing manufactures that have LTE, 4" screens and thin profile phones because remember Apple can do no wrong and invents everything and owns everything even if someone else already did it years ago... Real shame at what Apple has become.

NoLiMiT06 said,
Now that this has been announced Apple will start suing manufactures that have LTE, 4" screens and thin profile phones because remember Apple can do no wrong and invents everything and owns everything even if someone else already did it years ago... Real shame at what Apple has become.
Actually the other way around. 4" device have been avail since 2009. LTE has been avail on phones since 2009. iPhone claimed the iPhone 5 is the worlds thinnest at 7.6MM, yet the Galaxy S III is also 7.6MM thin. Samsung will sue them for copying everything from them.

I think Motorola made the first 4" smartphone, and Samsung can sue for the rest.

Zeikku said,
I think I'll stick to my HTC One X.

and I think I'll stick with my HTC Raider which already has LTE, 1080p camera and other useful features like extendable memory

technikal said,

and I think I'll stick with my HTC Raider which already has LTE, 1080p camera and other useful features like extendable memory

Still rocking me Sensation, now running Jelly Bean

HTC FTW

from what I have seen so far, comparing it to nokia920, nokia wins. sorry apple ur playing catch up to android and nokia.

I can handle all these little changes but a new connector!
What is the point in that?
Also have you seen the adapter so it works with old devices?
"here have a block of ugly for your phone".

Lingwo said,
I can handle all these little changes but a new connector!
What is the point in that?
Also have you seen the adapter so it works with old devices?
"here have a block of ugly for your phone".

When will their loyal masses get SICK of changing all their items to the new connector, all those sound docks etc etc and sound systems with i-device connectors are redundant.......

Mando said,

When will their loyal masses get SICK of changing all their items to the new connector, all those sound docks etc etc and sound systems with i-device connectors are redundant.......

Not to mention cars. If I bought an iPhone 5 (which I'm not going to do, but bear with me) I would not want to buy an adapter that pushes the phone out of the cradle in the armrest by almost a whole inch, leaving it open to wobble and damage. No thanks.

Mando said,

When will their loyal masses get SICK of changing all their items to the new connector, all those sound docks etc etc and sound systems with i-device connectors are redundant.......


This connector had been around for almost 10 years, get over it.
It's not as if all your hardware is going to stop working because Apple is using a new connector for their new devices.

technikal said,
OMFG NEW CONNECTOR!

with adapter for the old style...probably be $29.95 for the privilege!

Pretty sure it'll be $49.99

ahhell said,
I don't get this. They are praising the new connector like it's some great new feature.

i'll explain it for you.

there is so little meat to this event that they had to mess around with stuff like connectors and earphones (that finally look like they'll fit in your ears) just to fill up time.

helpfully they neglected to mention the $35 you'll have to pay for the adapter on this new connector just to allow it to work with your other kit. i wonder why that didn't get a few minutes of coverage....

Seriously this is boring - just like the old one. incremental changes - the magic days are over if this is the standard. It's all been done elsewhere already.

Most of the announcements so far explain how its an upgrade from the 4S, but not much here takes it above the competition... perhaps it will have a higher price than anything else on the market though.

Wait... all this sounds like right now is Apple playing catch up with Android phone makers! haha where the hell is this so called innovation Apple does every year? This is pathetic.

EvoFlux said,
Wait... all this sounds like right now is Apple playing catch up with Android phone makers! haha where the hell is this so called innovation Apple does every year? This is pathetic.

Agree, My Sony Xperia ion has a 4.6" 720p display(323ppi), 12megapixal camera with Panorama support, 4G LTE, micro usb and micro HDMI ports. And was only $29.99!

Andrewoid said,
"But perhaps the most amazing new feature in the iPhone 5 is called panorama."

This says it all...

I've never seen a panorama mode where you just swipe the phone left to right (pretty fast too) and it takes all the pictures for you and searches for moving/distorted stuff and removes it for you.

spedanden said,
I've never seen a panorama mode where you just swipe the phone left to right (pretty fast too) and it takes all the pictures for you and searches for moving/distorted stuff and removes it for you.

Sony point-and-shoot cameras have been able to do this for at least two, if not three, years.

DonC said,

Sony point-and-shoot cameras have been able to do this for at least two, if not three, years.

Were talking about a PHONE.

DonC said,

Sony point-and-shoot cameras have been able to do this for at least two, if not three, years.

And Sony cameras have had image stabilization for at least two, if not 5 years. So I guess Nokia's Lumia is nothing cool.

spedanden said,

I've never seen a panorama mode where you just swipe the phone left to right (pretty fast too) and it takes all the pictures for you and searches for moving/distorted stuff and removes it for you.


The camera app that comes with Android 4.0 has a single-motion panorama mode.

Anaron said,

The camera app that comes with Android 4.0 has a single-motion panorama mode.

This, the stock one. Plus I was emphasizing the "most amazing new feature part".

“You can imagine the challenge our team faced: thinner, smaller… but we've added HSPA+, DC-HSDPA, and yes, LTE. How'd we do this? It took a lot of incredible engineering.”

No it didn't Tim. It took 2010 engineering. You just deliver late as usual!

technikal said,
“You can imagine the challenge our team faced: thinner, smaller… but we've added HSPA+, DC-HSDPA, and yes, LTE. How'd we do this? It took a lot of incredible engineering.”

No it didn't Tim. It took 2010 engineering. You just deliver late as usual!

It would be a challenge if they stopped using glass.

technikal said,
“You can imagine the challenge our team faced: thinner, smaller… but we've added HSPA+, DC-HSDPA, and yes, LTE. How'd we do this? It took a lot of incredible engineering.”

No it didn't Tim. It took 2010 engineering. You just deliver late as usual!


Could you provide a link to that fabulous 7.6 mm thin device that supported UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA/GSM/EDGE and LTE?
I was only able to find this http://www.apple.com/iphone/ and it looks like it's just been announced.

xbamaris said,
"Full console quality"

Doubt it. Even if, the battery would die pretty quickly.

You'd be surprised what these devices are *capable* of. Now, what developers take advantage of, that's a different story...

ahhell said,
They didn't say WHICH console. EA is probably talking about the Genesis.
I was thinking the Gameboy Color actually, just with enhanced graphics.

THolman said,

You'd be surprised what these devices are *capable* of. Now, what developers take advantage of, that's a different story...

My laptop can easily do 10 times that, for sure. (talking about consoles and this ridiculous comparison that is)

Arceles said,

My laptop can easily do 10 times that, for sure. (talking about consoles and this ridiculous comparison that is)

Consoles definitely hold PCs back

SHoTTa35 said,
So far, pretty boring gotta say. Seems all of the same, a little changed.

So boring, it sold out faster than any other iPhone in history. And what was it you wanted ? Don't say NFC.

Saying something sold out without knowing how many units were available to be sold means nothing. For all we know they could have had 10,000 units ready for pre-order while the rest will be on store shelves. If last year they had 100,000 units for pre-order and this one sold out faster then you are comparing apples to oranges.

What was I expecting though, dunno - was just waiting to be wowed. I guess if I already expected something it wouldn't wow me. I was waiting for something that was new and exciting. Didn't see any of that.

Now not saying the iPhone 5 isn't a good phone, hell i'm always impressed with their engineering and attention to detail and all that. Just saying it's basically more of the same which in that case I could keep my 4S if I had one (still).

zikalify said,
In all seriousness, the rumours killed this announcement xD

Actually no, the device killed the announcement and **** advertising.

Nokia leaks were far more informative and had more then the iphone but people went mad over the release date

Inertia said,
Is the press release not streamed or anything ?
Uhm no, it's apple. You can watch twit.tv talking about it tho but leo laporte is slamming everything they say xD

Orange Battery said,
Love the new UI, finally done away with the rows of apps.. no wait

At least they've still got all that faux-leather

AbandonedTrolley said,
Not even hitting 720? Apple at the forefront of technology.

No real reason to go to 720 without making the screen bigger, like 4.3 or 4.5 inches. This looks a lot more compact than a lot of the other LTE smartphones.

ditoa said,

I am quite surprised by this also.

Apple wants to keep a ratio on resolution that allows for apps to scale up without rewriting them entirely. Thus, from a resolutions of 960 c 640, the resolutions would have to be 1136x640. 640 that means 3 devices that cant support 720P.

So they are suing over looks, because they need to slow the compatition that is already 2 years ahead.

Everyone criticize MS for support mostly 800 x 600 resolution. but 800 supports 720P nicely.

The only plus I saw with the new iPhone, I do like the unibody shell. The rest is just a improved 4S. Out of all the features and capabilities they listed, my Galaxy S 3 does all of them so far.

Now all the Sheeple need to stand in line for the iPhone 4XL. At least the 4 means something this time. Support for 4G/LTE, 4" screen finally (so Apple now has a hummer-like phone) and 2x CPU power 2x GPU power for 4x's useless power where full multi-tasking is not supported. 1GB of RAM is still pathetic. The iOS6 apps use nearly 512MB of memory space, unlike iOS4.x/5.x apps with were confined to 256MB of memory space.

AbandonedTrolley said,
Not even hitting 720? Apple at the forefront of technology.

right? so that means they won't have a 1280x720 phone for at least a year maybe? i read the 1136x640 rumors, but i thought for sure they'd surprise everyone and go more... but at least now they'll sell more of the 5s!

Buttus said,

right? so that means they won't have a 1280x720 phone for at least a year maybe? i read the 1136x640 rumors, but i thought for sure they'd surprise everyone and go more... but at least now they'll sell more of the 5s!

Do you really need more than 326 dpi????

TechieXP said,
Everyone criticize MS for support mostly 800 x 600 resolution. but 800 supports 720P nicely.

Say what? How does one 'nicely' fit 1280×720 pixels in a 800×600 display?

Dean Wagner said,

Say what? How does one 'nicely' fit 1280×720 pixels in a 800×600 display?
I should have put the /S because it was sarcasm. MS was criticize for a resolution that didnt support 720P, but so far the only people criticizing Aple for it, is us. Understand now?

TechieXP said,
I should have put the /S because it was sarcasm. MS was criticize for a resolution that didnt support 720P, but so far the only people criticizing Aple for it, is us. Understand now?

but we'll make fun of anyone who comes out with a new phone without 1280x720, because it's dumb for a flagship device to not have it!

Buttus said,

but we'll make fun of anyone who comes out with a new phone without 1280x720, because it's dumb for a flagship device to not have it!

PPI is more important. Stop focusing on status, tie your shoelaces, and feel my ecosystem !

New features? I'd like to see what new features they are bringing to this... I have a feeling we're going to see more of a mix of Android now.

EvoFlux said,
New features? I'd like to see what new features they are bringing to this... I have a feeling we're going to see more of a mix of Android now.

It has a new dock connector - just what everybody needs.... but wait, there is an new adapter too!

/s

lt8480 said,

It has a new dock connector - just what everybody needs.... but wait, there is an new adapter too!

/s

On a more serious note there was no announcement about any of the benefits this new connector brings to the consumer apart from it is smaller. Does it charger faster/slower? Does it transfer faster/slower? - surely this is what logical people would care about if there is a new connector not the damn size.

lt8480 said,

It has a new dock connector - just what everybody needs.... but wait, there is an new adapter too!

/s

another site was giddy about the panoramic thing. yeah Asus Transformer has that. pretty good too. matches all the pics up great.

lt8480 said,

On a more serious note there was no announcement about any of the benefits this new connector brings to the consumer apart from it is smaller. Does it charger faster/slower? Does it transfer faster/slower? - surely this is what logical people would care about if there is a new connector not the damn size.

It's got a faster-sounding name, so that has to count for something, doesn't it?

lt8480 said,

On a more serious note there was no announcement about any of the benefits this new connector brings to the consumer apart from it is smaller. Does it charger faster/slower? Does it transfer faster/slower? - surely this is what logical people would care about if there is a new connector not the damn size.

The only thing they mentioned was that its allowed them to make the phone thinner (along with stuff like the nano sim), and it's reversible to easier to use

lt8480 said,

It has a new dock connector - just what everybody needs.... but wait, there is an new adapter too!

/s

That adapter costs 29 Euros. I LOL'd.

lt8480 said,

On a more serious note there was no announcement about any of the benefits this new connector brings to the consumer apart from it is smaller. Does it charger faster/slower? Does it transfer faster/slower? - surely this is what logical people would care about if there is a new connector not the damn size.


Benefits are that it's 8 times smaller, more durable and it's reversible.
On a device of this size, size does matter.

Apple hasn't said anything about the impact on charge time. I'd be OK even if it's the same as the current one, which is already pretty damn fast.

As for transfer speed, at least 75% of iOS devices can sync over the air. I would assume that most people with an iOS device don't really care about wired transfer.

lt8480 said,

On a more serious note there was no announcement about any of the benefits this new connector brings to the consumer apart from it is smaller. Does it charger faster/slower? Does it transfer faster/slower? - surely this is what logical people would care about if there is a new connector not the damn size.

That's so that all of your existing cables are useless and you have to spend more money

PatrynXX said,

another site was giddy about the panoramic thing. yeah Asus Transformer has that. pretty good too. matches all the pics up great.

Windows Phones has had that too - Microsoft Photosynth does really cool panoramic shots...

Tom said,
INNOVATION BABY, INNOVATION.

what innovation. it's all copied. off about 1/2 a year. Shouldn't they be ahead of the came. Especially with all the lawsuits??

PatrynXX said,

what innovation. it's all copied. off about 1/2 a year. Shouldn't they be ahead of the came. Especially with all the lawsuits??

So is WP and Android then. Every idea is borrowed from something before it. Live with it.

Tom said,
INNOVATION BABY, INNOVATION.

If theyd copy everyones use of Gorilla glass id consider the iphone. But most of my friends have broken iphones for a reason, the wind blows and the screen cracks.

andrewbares said,

So is WP and Android then. Every idea is borrowed from something before it. Live with it.

Yep! but I think that this is negative innovation on apple's part.

From a comparison standpoint I think...
iPhone 5 = Nokia Lumia 820
Nokia Lumia 920 (and some Android devices) = Best Smart Phones!!!

This is the beginning of Apples EPIC FALL.....

Simon said,
The iPhone was the first phone to use Gorilla Glass. And it still does. They just don't brand it as such.

See: http://9to5mac.com/2012/03/02/...lass-2-likely-for-iphone-5/

I think the first commercial device was the ZuneHD.

Additionally, Apple negotiated for Gorilla Glass and decided they could do it themselves cheaper. This resulted in near the scratch resistance, but not the flexibility of Gorilla Glass from Corning.

This is why iPhones snap crack and pop so easily. Just the width of a coin in your pocket with an iPhone 'flexing' it can crack the screen.

Apple may have renegotiated for Gorilla Glass for the iPhone5, but even the iPhone4S is not using real Gorilla Glass.

Apple dropped rumors that they WERE using Gorilla Glass last year, but this was a PR incident to imply the iPhone glass was a strong as competitors, but as any dime store test can clarify, it is NOT even close to Gorilla Glass.

Inside note: Apple licensed technology from Corning for the Aluminosilicate process that they used on the iPhone, but it is NOT official Gorilla Glass v1, or v2, and does not and will not carry the Corning Gorilla Glass moniker.

This could change with the iPhone5, but with the touch integration, I doubt this will happen.

Go to Youtube and check out iPhone vs tests, and also check out the ZuneHD when it was released, as the size of the screen and Gorilla Glass thickness make it especially impressive.


Beyond Godlike said,

If theyd copy everyones use of Gorilla glass id consider the iphone. But most of my friends have broken iphones for a reason, the wind blows and the screen cracks.

It is true, I have 2 broken ones sitting in a drawer. I've dropped my Lumia 800 that I got for free from Microsoft face down 3-4 times now (twice on the tiles, once outside on the driveway) and the damn thing doesn't even have the tiniest scratch on it. Both iPhones (one with a case mind you but no screen protector) fell once and were done. The Lumia also doesn't have a screen protector (only a thin soft skin for the body) and still going strong...

Simon said,
The iPhone was the first phone to use Gorilla Glass. And it still does. They just don't brand it as such.

See: http://9to5mac.com/2012/03/02/...lass-2-likely-for-iphone-5/

Yet the 4 and 4S break like its using cheap glass. It cant even stand up to a simple drop, imagine what a gorilla would do to it. Oh wait, those models didnt use the better glass, it used a cheap Ceramic glass which was heat treated and anodized which is why if it cracked, the gas excaping would cause the gass to shatter.

Really smart innovative concept...LMAO!!!

If you guys actually read the source I linked, it covers the allegations that iPhones don't use Gorilla Glass. Corning has moved some manufacturing to China. It just so happens that glass sometimes breaks, even if it's Gorilla Glass.

The problem with Apple phones is that the edge of the glass is exposed, which is something other phones don't do. So if you drop your phone on its edge, the glass gets the full brunt of the force on an iPhone - you don't get that on other phones. It's bad design on Apple's part. But the glass is still the same one you know and love.

Beyond Godlike said,

If theyd copy everyones use of Gorilla glass id consider the iphone. But most of my friends have broken iphones for a reason, the wind blows and the screen cracks.

Your friends are clumsy drunks