iPhone 5 will have A5, 8MP camera, small design updates

For Apple, June is typically the month that they unveil their latest smartphone. But if rumors hold true, the month may pass without any new hardware. New reports are suggesting that the iPhone 5 will go into production in September with a launch following closely afterwards.

Appleinsider is quoting Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo with Concord Securities that the iPhone 5 will only have slight modifications when compared to the iPhone 4, will feature an A5 processor, an 8MP camera, and Apple will switch to a Qualcomm baseband for all models (CDMA/GSM). The iPhone 5 will also have an updated antenna design.

The updates seem modest at best but are also a safe bets for any analyst. The Apple A5 is almost guaranteed as it is Apple's latest generation CPU, currently found in the iPad 2. The 8MP camera also seems plausible as it is simply a bump in spec compared to the previous generation iPhone, and by switching to a Qualcomm baseband, Apple will only have to produce one variant of the iPhone (along with separate models based on storage size).

If the rumors hold up, we should see the iPhone 5 sometime this Fall (rumors suggest September), with a high probability that it will land before Black Friday to help Apple move the older iPhone 4 off shelves at a considerable discount.

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Kinda funny and sad that the portion about the updated antenna design seems to be getting a lot of attention LOL. Although I am certainly no Apple fanperson, some need to just let it (antenna issues) go.

Sorry apple... Iphone 4 was not worth the upgrade costs over the 3gs, so ill ditch my 3gs and opt for an android.. bored of the iphone OS.. I want widgets and multiple homescreens, not just rows of icons!

DrScouse said,
Sorry apple... Iphone 4 was not worth the upgrade costs over the 3gs, so ill ditch my 3gs and opt for an android.. bored of the iphone OS.. I want widgets and multiple homescreens, not just rows of icons!

iPhone 4 looks much better with its glassy design and it is faster than the 3GS, with LED Flash, dual camera for facetime,etc.

I wish iOS 5 tweaks the UI a bit to put in the option to add widgets on the homescreens.

DrScouse said,
Sorry apple... Iphone 4 was not worth the upgrade costs over the 3gs, so ill ditch my 3gs and opt for an android.. bored of the iphone OS.. I want widgets and multiple homescreens, not just rows of icons!

Be careful though, as you might find all the Android features must have features, when it comes to reality, there is a performance cost of these features. Also when Android is not using GPU accelerated screen drawing and has a heavier VM and kernel than iOS, a high end Android phone that should be a performance monster will often feel slow in comparison to iOS.

Now that iOS has multi-tasking, and fairly smart implementation of multi-tasking, you will also find yourself cursing the Android phone when it starts randomly terminating applications with them completely losing their 'state' as you flip between just a few applicaitons. (Absolutely stay away from any Android phone with less that 512mb of system RAM for this reason.)

Right now, I favor WP7, but if I were to have to use only one phone and had my choice of Android or iPhone, I wouldn't even hesitate to chose the iPhone. Just the way it handles multi-tasking is a lot smarter and won't shut down Skype or even the SMS messaging features of the phone because you open a large game or are just flipping beteen an App and the browser.

(I truly have a major issue with Android when it just terminates processes like it is an OS from the 1980s and does so without any indication or notice. Especially when it has the nerve to shut down even Apps that are essential to what a Cell phone is, like the Messaging App for MMS/SMS.)

PS Android needs to implement smarter SD card reading and writing methods that don't wear out flash devices when doing a lot of writes, so that it can use your large SD card for 'virtural' RAM, and be able to put the swap/page file on the SD card.

I think they should redesign the iPhone 5 so that it is at least as rugged as the iPhone 3G/3GS. The iPhone 4 (although I think it looks great) was a giant leap backwards in terms of fragility. Seriously, it is the daintiest phone on the market. Glass front and back with the edge of the glass exposed on the edge of the phone was just a terrible idea. Drop it from any standing height on just about anything has a high probability of crackings the screen or the back.

I just wish they would introduce wifi syncing, sometimes I just dont want to hook the phone up and start half charging it. Plus with the wifi sync they could allow you to choose the media you want to sync from the iPhone/iPad. Say open shared library stream a song/video, think mmm I wouldn't mind continuing to list to this as i go to work and the click sync or something for it to sync it onto the iOS device.

REM2000 said,
I just wish they would introduce wifi syncing, sometimes I just dont want to hook the phone up and start half charging it. Plus with the wifi sync they could allow you to choose the media you want to sync from the iPhone/iPad. Say open shared library stream a song/video, think mmm I wouldn't mind continuing to list to this as i go to work and the click sync or something for it to sync it onto the iOS device.

There is an app for wi-fi syncing.

alexalex said,

There is an app for wi-fi syncing.

In both the Android and iOS world though, there is still nothing as simple as the WiFi Syncing that originated on Zune devices and exists now on WP7.

I have my last ZuneHD mounted to the dash of my car, and all I have to do is come home and put the car in the driveway. The next morning when I drive away, my Zune is updated with the latest podcasts, music, video etc. (And this also works for items you manually sync.)

It is odd that with so many car stereos supporting inherent iPod/iPhone controls and interfaces, that you still have to drag the phone in the house to get its content updated from what is on your PC.

This is one area that Apple needs to pay attention to better, as it is an area they could add more functionality to the iPhone.

And Android, networking/syncs are a mess even with some of more 'well' intended Apps that try to offer this functionality. The Apps don't work well with Mac or Windows based networks or t\the existing media access or sync concepts on either platform. Even the network file managers on Android have trouble accessing most computers and devices, which is a very old school method of manually managing content. The OS itself needs to offer more features in the networking stack, like inherent support of Windows and Mac network environments, instead of just the base *nix style NFS concepts.

Good, this wont make me feel bad when I get myself the iPhone 4 next month. If the iPhone 5 came out a month afterwards I'd probably feel regret for not waiting a little bit longer.

Capric0rn said,
Good, this wont make me feel bad when I get myself the iPhone 4 next month. If the iPhone 5 came out a month afterwards I'd probably feel regret for not waiting a little bit longer.

That's the downfall with hardware. You can always but something but what if next month there's something new. Sometimes we just have to take the step...

Capric0rn said,
Good, this wont make me feel bad when I get myself the iPhone 4 next month. If the iPhone 5 came out a month afterwards I'd probably feel regret for not waiting a little bit longer.

I'd wait for the conference in June before I'd buy an iPhone. That will be the only time you'll know for definite, the iPhone 5 won't lunch.

article said,
The updates seem modest at best but are also a safe bets for any analyst.

Well, is there much they can change in their hardware anyway? Processor, baseband IC, camera and antenna design are basically all the stuff they can change from a generation to the next.

The display they use is great and the form won't be changed in any meaningful way. They won't put any ports on it (they haven't done it in the last 4 years, won't do it now), so there's really not much else to change really.

joker999 said,
iPhone4 is fine for now, right? I mean fast enough.

Its only fast enough because its illogical to make most software too demanding for current specs. If faster hardware is released then software will be more demanding which will run slow on old hardware. Remember this so you never make that comment again.

joker999 said,
iPhone4 is fine for now, right? I mean fast enough.

Its only fast enough because its illogical to make most software too demanding for current specs. If faster hardware is released then software will be more demanding which will run slow on old hardware. Remember this so you never make that comment again.

joker999 said,
iPhone4 is fine for now, right? I mean fast enough.

Just like computers. They will get faster, better specs, and apps will come out to take advantage of that

techbeck said,

Just like computers. They will get faster, better specs, and apps will come out to take advantage of that

And Apple has a history of releasing OS updates that are optimized for the next gen hardware while taxing on older hardware. I.E., the performance hit 3GS phones got when multitasking was released in iOS 4. I suspect that iOS 5 will bring widgets that will be taxing on iPhone 4 hardware....

Shadrack said,

And Apple has a history of releasing OS updates that are optimized for the next gen hardware while taxing on older hardware. I.E., the performance hit 3GS phones got when multitasking was released in iOS 4. I suspect that iOS 5 will bring widgets that will be taxing on iPhone 4 hardware....

3GS didnt get the performance hit, it was the 3G, my 3GS has multitasking running smoothly and perfectly.

Dr Pepper said,

3GS didnt get the performance hit, it was the 3G, my 3GS has multitasking running smoothly and perfectly.

+1. It did get a battery hit, but the performance remained the same.

Wishlist:
Standard miniUSB port for charging and for syncing.
Ability to sync music/video/photos etc without having to use iTunes :-(
Ability to use as an external USB drive.
More storage (64G, 128G ...).
Radio.
Why not?

gb8080 said,
Wishlist:
Standard miniUSB port for charging and for syncing.
Ability to sync music/video/photos etc without having to use iTunes :-(
Ability to use as an external USB drive.
More storage (64G, 128G ...).
Radio.
Why not?

The only one you have half a chance of getting is more storage. But I suspect they will be staying the same as well

gb8080 said,
Wishlist:
Standard miniUSB port for charging and for syncing.
Ability to sync music/video/photos etc without having to use iTunes :-(
Ability to use as an external USB drive.
More storage (64G, 128G ...).
Radio.
Why not?

Keep wishing.

gb8080 said,
Wishlist:
wish it wasn't Apple
wish it wasn't Apple
wish it wasn't Apple
wish it wasn't Apple
wish it wasn't Apple
Where's Android?

Fixed!

gb8080 said,
Wishlist:
Standard miniUSB port for charging and for syncing.
Ability to sync music/video/photos etc without having to use iTunes :-(
Ability to use as an external USB drive.
More storage (64G, 128G ...).
Radio.
Why not?

At least in Europe I think it's now mandatory to have an universal charging port being Micro USB the chosen, so I think Apple will have to change it if they want to sell iphones here.

MountainSnake said,

At least in Europe I think it's now mandatory to have an universal charging port being Micro USB the chosen, so I think Apple will have to change it if they want to sell iphones here.

Won't happen since Apple want to use their ports for their special adaptors which will only mostly work for that generation of device until the year after where a new adaptor will be released but won't support options for the older device and this just goes on and on and on and on.

Yes, I wrote that on purpose.

MountainSnake said,

At least in Europe I think it's now mandatory to have an universal charging port being Micro USB the chosen, so I think Apple will have to change it if they want to sell iphones here.

Standard - Yes
Mandatory - No

It's a recommended guideline, which most people will follow, except Apple.

JustinN said,

Standard - Yes
Mandatory - No

It's a recommended guideline, which most people will follow, except Apple.


I thought Apple signed up to it though? Or was I just imagining that a few years back?

MountainSnake said,

At least in Europe I think it's now mandatory to have an universal charging port being Micro USB the chosen, so I think Apple will have to change it if they want to sell iphones here.

it's not mandatory, it's up to the manufacturer, but apple has joined the program.

updated antenna design? gee wonder why? </s>

no really though to have a dual protocol (gsm/cdma) you'd defintaly have to change the design

Pugalenthi Iniabarathi said,
So will the iPhone 4 price will be reduced after the release of iPhone 5 ??

Read much? There is "a high probability that it [iPhone 5] will land before Black Friday to help Apple move the older iPhone 4 off shelves at a considerable discount".

Go look at the price of the 3GS, $49 on AT&T, surely Apple wouldnt sell the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 5 at the same price, the iPhone 4 will turn into Apple's low-cost option.

bdsams said,
Go look at the price of the 3GS, $49 on AT&T, surely Apple wouldnt sell the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 5 at the same price, the iPhone 4 will turn into Apple's low-cost option.

Hope so !! planning to get an iPhone 4 at this yr end bcoz got an iPhone 3G last december Since am in INDIA its very default to get an iPhone 4 for $1000

bdsams said,
Go look at the price of the 3GS, $49 on AT&T, surely Apple wouldnt sell the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 5 at the same price, the iPhone 4 will turn into Apple's low-cost option.

This is standard for Apple. They tend not to lower the price of their "current gen" throughout the lifetime of that gen. Once the next thing is out they lower their price on the now previous gen to get them off the shelves.

Pugalenthi Iniabarathi said,
So will the iPhone 4 price will be reduced after the release of iPhone 5 ??

who cares. get a wp7 device and profit. iOS is old ass