Is 640 x 1136 the new screen resolution of the iPhone 5?

In case you missed it, there are rumours that somewhere around September Apple is going to launch the next version of the iPhone. And by that time, iOS 6 should be ready too. Among the rumours are hints of a larger screen, and in one of the development tools for iOS, some evidence has been found supporting the rumour that Apple is changing the iPhone's screen size for the first time since the launch back in 2007. Although Apple introduced the retina display with the iPhone 4, the aspect ratio never changed.

When running the iOS simulator included in the development tools at a specific screen resolution of 640 by 1136 pixels, the home screen in iOS 6 shows five rows instead of the standard four found on iOS 5.1. This doesn't happen when running the simulator at a different resolution. This could indicate that the new iPhone will have a bigger screen as expected, or that Apple just left some code in while experimenting with different screen sizes. Apple's own apps seem to be modified to fully use the available screen size, although it's unsure how non-optimized third party apps will behave to the changed aspect ratio. The current (non-retina) resolution of the iPhone is 640 by 960 pixels, so only the screen's height would change if the rumour is true.

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Phouchg said,
What kind of idiotic dumbass uncommon pricknumbered resolution is that?

It's 16:9 - the standard widescreen aspect ratio used on TVs and monitors. Looks like Apple decided to keep the same horizontal pixels (640) and change the vertical to match the 16:9 format. Still would have seemed more sensible to go with the proper HD resolution of 720 across and eliminate downscaling, but then you probably won't notice that too much in the end.

Whats ultimately amusing is that Apple WILL lose this war. How do I know this? Well because in the 80's they were doing quite well too with their closed format and then came along an inferior but more open platform known as Windows. Hardware open platforms eventually win out and if they don't then you have a bad situation of a monopoly.

Oz. said,
I want something like this for iPhone 5

Toshiba 4-inch 367ppi 1280x720 display

Considering you can't really see the pixels on the current resolution, there wouldn't be much benefit in that.

Believe it or not, this screen resolution will surely **** off the long gone steve jobs for sure..how can you even call the next iPhone as a retina display when it isn't even a HD resolution...HAha!

The two have nothing to do with each other. "Retina" has to do with not being able to distinguish separate pixels from the regular operating distance.

adiaga said,
innovation stopped a long time ago for iphone

Oh really? Please enlighten me about when it stopped. Was it 5 years ago when it single-handedly reshaped what mobile phones are today? No, maybe it 4 years ago when it introduced a great app ecosystem and made other manufacturers scramble to open their own app stores too. Or maybe it was 2 years ago, when it randomly quadrupled the resolution on phones, and made other manufacturers scramble to start producing high resolution phones? Or no, you must mean last year, when it upped the ante on voice activation and sent every other manufacturer scrambling to improve their voice activation.

TL;DR: Shut the **** up.

Fry said,

Oh really? Please enlighten me about when it stopped. Was it 5 years ago when it single-handedly reshaped what mobile phones are today? No, maybe it 4 years ago when it introduced a great app ecosystem and made other manufacturers scramble to open their own app stores too. Or maybe it was 2 years ago, when it randomly quadrupled the resolution on phones, and made other manufacturers scramble to start producing high resolution phones? Or no, you must mean last year, when it upped the ante on voice activation and sent every other manufacturer scrambling to improve their voice activation.

TL;DR: Shut the **** up.

Single handedly turned people into mindless drones. Made people feel inadequate if they werent part of the iCult.

You have an apple centric vision of the world, infact you talk about perceived innovation, without considering that for example nokia had applications and a store way before 2007. Many things like unholy resolution on small screens or fashion are for who has personal problems, maybe it reshaped the way people try to compensate something and forced some cheap idea in people, but that are marketing milestone, not technological one.
On top of that, siri was a regular app integrated in the os and skrewed up, google is the one that is making real investment in natural language.

(sorry for my english, not my primary language)

Fry said,

Oh really? Please enlighten me about when it stopped. Was it 5 years ago when it single-handedly reshaped what mobile phones are today? No, maybe it 4 years ago when it introduced a great app ecosystem and made other manufacturers scramble to open their own app stores too. Or maybe it was 2 years ago, when it randomly quadrupled the resolution on phones, and made other manufacturers scramble to start producing high resolution phones? Or no, you must mean last year, when it upped the ante on voice activation and sent every other manufacturer scrambling to improve their voice activation.

TL;DR: Shut the **** up.

Here here, well said...

PurpleHaze420 said,

Here here, well said...

Not really...
iPhone wasn't the first, it was just the most popular.
Before hating on me, keep in mind that I dont really give a crap, I dont like any smartphones because like the very first guy said, they're facebook phones. The actual PHONE part of them sucks. I prefer my 6 yo flip phone

PS its hard to take you seriously when you cant spell 'hear' correctly.

Fry said,
Shut the **** up.

Sums up what I was thinking about most of the comments on here, and excellent points. Well said sir.

Fry said,

Oh really? Please enlighten me about when it stopped. Was it 5 years ago when it single-handedly reshaped what mobile phones are today? No, maybe it 4 years ago when it introduced a great app ecosystem and made other manufacturers scramble to open their own app stores too. Or maybe it was 2 years ago, when it randomly quadrupled the resolution on phones, and made other manufacturers scramble to start producing high resolution phones? Or no, you must mean last year, when it upped the ante on voice activation and sent every other manufacturer scrambling to improve their voice activation.

TL;DR: Shut the **** up.

Thank you!
See the thing is, Apple doesn't innovate in the same fashion as everyone else. They just pounce on others failures per say. What made the iPhone so successful is many things including the Apple EcoSystem, and Apples Marketing. Sure there were other smartphones out there at the time of the iphone, nothing was packaged well, including the crappy software for Windows. People flock to simplicity and with the iPhone you get a full package that others didn't have at the time. For the first year or so others were trying to catch up and change their smartphones to fit what Apple discovered as what the users wanted

Iridium said,
Single handedly turned people into mindless drones. Made people feel inadequate if they werent part of the iCult.

Sounds like you're the one feeling inadequate here, hating people for how they choose to spend their own money. Does bashing them help you feel better about yourself?

Fry said,

Oh really? Please enlighten me about when it stopped. Was it 5 years ago when it single-handedly reshaped what mobile phones are today? No, maybe it 4 years ago when it introduced a great app ecosystem and made other manufacturers scramble to open their own app stores too. Or maybe it was 2 years ago, when it randomly quadrupled the resolution on phones, and made other manufacturers scramble to start producing high resolution phones? Or no, you must mean last year, when it upped the ante on voice activation and sent every other manufacturer scrambling to improve their voice activation.

TL;DR: Shut the **** up.

WinMo had 800x480 resolution phones back in like 2007. Pretty sure that was considered high-red then

nik louch said,
That extra screen space will be "innovative" and "magical".

Apple will surely patent this whole new icon layout and sue anyone who dares to adopt a similar interface..

yo popcaan said,
Still a $800 Facebook phone for most. Sorry, I just find most people dumb these days.

Same here. And you know what the funny thing is? Windows Phone actually makes a better Facebook phone than the iPhone, but people don't want that, they want this!

FalseAgent said,

Same here. And you know what the funny thing is? Windows Phone actually makes a better Facebook phone than the iPhone, but people don't want that, they want this!

100% agree the whole point of people getting an iPhone (not all obviously, it does have a decent OS and a great variety of "apps") was because you looked rich or "special" I think now that too many people have them, that kind of prestigous association has warn off

yo popcaan said,
Still a $800 Facebook phone for most. Sorry, I just find most people dumb these days.

I remember the days when neowin.net wasn't that full of complete idiots. People could actually think before posting.

Deniss said,

I remember the days when neowin.net wasn't that full of complete idiots. People could actually think before posting.

Yeah what are you doing here?

I love the predictable posts trash-talking Apple, the iPhone, iPhone users and even "most people". When it comes to Apple news, the comment section might as well be auto-generated around here.

yo popcaan said,
Still a $800 Facebook phone for most. Sorry, I just find most people dumb these days.

This would be true if the $800 figured hadn't been proven as a RUMOUR.

Iphone 4s costs $849 for the 64GB version unlocked. How's that a rumour?

And do not bring the carrier locked price in there.. Over you contract you're paying same price plus interest.

yo popcaan said,
Still a $800 Facebook phone for most. Sorry, I just find most people dumb these days.

... and the most stable OS of any phone on the market, and the best camera, best screen image, best headphone sound quality, most quality apps.... ect, ect, ect.

Deniss said,

I remember the days when neowin.net wasn't that full of complete idiots. People could actually think before posting.

I agree mate, it's a real shame.

paulheu said,
Iphone 4s costs $849 for the 64GB version unlocked. How's that a rumour?

And do not bring the carrier locked price in there.. Over you contract you're paying same price plus interest.

And getting service for that price. So the carrier pricing is the real $$ not the unlocked value.

Deniss said,

I remember the days when neowin.net wasn't that full of complete idiots. People could actually think before posting.

Yep, and now there's people like you...

spedanden said,

... and the most stable OS of any phone on the market, and the best camera, best screen image, best headphone sound quality, most quality apps.... ect, ect, ect.

Past do you want to buy he Brooklyn Bridge? Because I do believe I could sell you anything.

yo popcaan said,
Still a $800 Facebook phone for most. Sorry, I just find most people dumb these days.

Sounds to me that you are butthurt that the iPhone is popular. I, for one, bought the iPhone because it's the best phone on the market. I'd rather have stability and a huge app selection plus update support beyond 5 minutes after buying it...

FalseAgent said,

Same here. And you know what the funny thing is? Windows Phone actually makes a better Facebook phone than the iPhone, but people don't want that, they want this!

Ahhhh... Windows Phone. Includes automatic obsolescence. Every model you can buy is already a dead end.

Deniss said,

I remember the days when neowin.net wasn't that full of complete idiots. People could actually think before posting.

ditto

yo popcaan said,
Still a $800 Facebook phone for most. Sorry, I just find most people dumb these days.

After using both iOS and Android, there isnt anything Android cant do better. More features, more capabilities, and despite what people think, the Apps crash less on My Android phones.

The issue is that people compare $700 iphones to the $300 androids most of the time and base their opinions on that. My GSII X Trumps an iphone in every department. Saw a good forum post on neowin recently where someone compared , over like 5 videos, usage of iOS vs Android, and simple things like sharing links is 10x easier on Android.

iPhone users just have no idea what theyre missing.

Clamdigger63 said,

Past do you want to buy he Brooklyn Bridge? Because I do believe I could sell you anything.

Hey as long as It's not something with a terrible camera and build quality such as a crash-prone Android phone or crap app/screen/sound Windows phone (which I own).... then yeah, you could!

Beyond Godlike said,

After using both iOS and Android, there isnt anything Android cant do better. More features, more capabilities, and despite what people think, the Apps crash less on My Android phones.

The issue is that people compare $700 iphones to the $300 androids most of the time and base their opinions on that. My GSII X Trumps an iphone in every department. Saw a good forum post on neowin recently where someone compared , over like 5 videos, usage of iOS vs Android, and simple things like sharing links is 10x easier on Android.

iPhone users just have no idea what theyre missing.


More features? Such as? I can only think of 3 (widgets, live wallpapers and NFC functionality), with only the last one being really useful.
About apps crashing it's a well-known fact that apps crash a lot more on Android. Check reviews on Google Play and it's full of people for who the app either won't work or keeps crashing.

Beyond Godlike said,

After using both iOS and Android, there isnt anything Android cant do better. More features, more capabilities, and despite what people think, the Apps crash less on My Android phones.

The issue is that people compare $700 iphones to the $300 androids most of the time and base their opinions on that. My GSII X Trumps an iphone in every department. Saw a good forum post on neowin recently where someone compared , over like 5 videos, usage of iOS vs Android, and simple things like sharing links is 10x easier on Android.

iPhone users just have no idea what theyre missing.

I owned an iPhone 4, and thought that there might be something better out there. So I sold it and got the SGS2 Skyrocket. The 4G LTE was awesome, other than that it was a terrible phone as apps crashed all the time, the camera was TERRIBLE and slow and the screen looked bad compared to the (albeit) smaller iPhone screen. So I sold the Skyrocket and bought a Samsung Focus S (Windows Phone). The OS is great, although perhaps too simple with the black backgrounds and white text. But there are NO good apps hardly and again the build quality and camera quality is terrible.

I will be buying the iPhone 5 and do not plan to mess with any other phones ever again.

spedanden said,

... and the most stable OS of any phone on the market, and the best camera, best screen image, best headphone sound quality, most quality apps.... ect, ect, ect.


You are hilarious... Best camera? Best screen image? You've clearly only ever used an iPhone.

omganinja said,

You are hilarious... Best camera? Best screen image? You've clearly only ever used an iPhone.

And you clearly didn't read the post I made DIRECTLY above yours.