Is Microsoft Cracking Down on DVD Ripping?

Is Microsoft trying to thwart DVD-ripping on PCs using Windows Vista with the new beta of Vista Service Pack 1? As I tested the public beta release of Vista SP1, I noticed the update crippled a popular DVD cracking program called DVD43. DVD43 is a free utility that disables a DVD's Content Scramble System (CSS) copy protection technology. Once a DVD's copy protection is disabled, you can copy its content using one of several third-party programs. You may be using DVD43 and not realize it, because it often is the engine of other ripping programs.

When I updated my Windows Vista operating system with the beta of Vista SP1, DVD43 wouldn't load. Instead, I saw an error message about a missing driver--even after I uninstalled and then reinstalled DVD43. A colleague of mine had a similar experience on a PC that also had been updated with the latest beta release of Vista SP1. Stripping DVD copy protection (CSS) from a DVD is illegal but many people do it.

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This is somewhat off-topic, but I've had such great results that I like to make the suggestion when I can. Try FairUse Wizard. Works great on Vista SP1 (the latest beta of it), and it does a fantastic job compressing with x264. For those of you with Netflix, this is perfect for ripping three DVDs before bed (only takes a few minutes per disc), and then letting it encode all three without needing to swap discs.

If microsoft were to disable dvd ripping..well, then would'nt you think anydvd would be disabled as well?

With updates comes compability problems, can remember when service pack 2 broke my sound card driver (XP),
maybe that was because microsoft did'nt want me to hear sounds in xpsp2? :p

this sounds like theinquirer.net-like news:p


PS:

Testet anydvd for fun on latest vista sp1, just to see if there was any trouth in this...
nope,works right out of the box:p

maybe the two at PC-world had the same computer (same brand,same model), and there were other
drivers/applications in combination with SP1 that broke DVD43.

Oh ****! Some program doesn't work with Vista! Surely, MS must have purposefully ruined it! That's the only god damn logical explanation! THE ONLY EXPLANATION I SAY!

Get a Grip Neowin...

I'll see your sensational title and raise it:

"Vista forces PC World blogger to admit illegally ripping DVDs"

Remember, Neowin Journalism rule #1: never blame anyone or anything else if you can place the blame on Vista.

"Vista forces PC World blogger to admit illegally ripping DVDs"

I'm sure you could have worked a terrorism reference in there somehow.

(winmoose said @ #32.2)
I'm sure you could have worked a terrorism reference in there somehow.

What, and pre-empt an upcoming article? Fat chance! We're saving the "Vista Helps Terrorists Win" article for the next couple of days. Don't worry, Steven Parker and I have a plan to do and say anything to sink Vista...be patient.

(winmoose said @ #32.2)

I'm sure you could have worked a terrorism reference in there somehow.

hehe...

As well as the all loved american First Amendment.

"PC-world employed goes to jail after VISTA SP1 forced him to reveal his illegal DVD ripping;
It says so in the First Amendment, it's my right to rip dvd's, i'm not going to jail, this is a conspiracy
that Osama Bin Laden is behind!"


(ok, it's maybe not all that funny, and maybe somewhat over the line...but still:p)

Exactly. The blogger would do well to actually TEST his hypothesis on other systems in the future, lest he show the entire world just how little he knows about his own home computer...ahem.

Can we expect even slightly accurate journalism anymore? WTH?

In our lab, DVD43 works properly with Vista SP1 (all SP1 builds to date).

I am sure there is some circumstance that would cause it to stop working or not work, but the idiot writing the article is really 'leaping' to conclusions by accusing MS of purposely causing one piece of software to not work, especially when DVD43 is NOT the only application like this.

The author needs to freaking reinstall DVD43 or find out what he 'feked' up and stop going on a witch hunt when the facts don't even support his initial conspiracy theory attempt.

DVD43 is a 32bit only application, so a lot of Vista users (64bit) are using something else already. This program does not strive to be fully compatible with Vista, and is just one of SEVERAL products on the market that do the same exact thing. From AnyDVD to other products, if MS was trying to stop DVD ripping all of these applications would fail, not just DVD43 on one idiot's computer.

A Side note... Microsoft actucally SUPPORTS DVD ripping, and it was originally a planned feature of Vista to be able ot Rip your DVD collection to the system as you do CDs now. This feature was ONE of the reasons MS put its support behind HD-DVD because it allowed for its contents to be ripped from the original media, where blu-ray strictly forbids this in the licensing, so that with blu-ray the content HAS TO stay on the physical Disc and cannot be copied, ripped, or archived. HD-DVD actually allows for its contents to be archived to your Hard Drive and not kept just on the HD-DVD, even though they require the copy protection to remain in place.

The final thought on this, is the opening of DVD ripping in the eyes of the industry and the laws surrounding this, it is now more 'legal' to rip or archive your DVDs than it has ever been.

Anyway, this whole article is crap, the author needs to be flamed back to obscurity for shoving a stupid idea based on bad facts in an article like this.

It's pure FUD.
Get a life.... I really mean it. Or learn to use and configure your system properly.
(and don't forget the terms of agreement on using beta/non-final software or updates).

never heard of dvd 43,a freeware called dvd shrink is a good app,i dont think Steven Parker is a noob or a moron,you cant expect all to work on vista and the rc isint even final so i bet his results will change when sp1 officialy is released,to all you moaners get a life and actualy try vista and dont post fud about sp1 it aint even officialy out yet.

DVD 43 was used a long time ago. It's not really needed anymore with all the other programs out there to accomplish this task. Also the author could take two seconds and find freeware, not just pay for software like anydvd that works perfectly with vista sp1 and accomplishes exactly what he is talking about for nothing just like his ancient dvd43.

> When I updated my Windows Vista operating system with the beta of Vista SP1, DVD43 wouldn't load. Instead, I
> saw an error message about a missing driver--even after I uninstalled and then reinstalled DVD43.

Wouldn't be the first time an OS update breaks something that some third-party program relies on.

But what do I know, it's more fun to spread these wild conspiracy theories.

Hi,

Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.

Either the program needs updating or there is a bug in SP1.

Kind Regards

Simon

This is not news, it's a ****ing retarded user with a problem with some random program on a non-final service pack spreading FUD about vista.

Funny, I just downloaded this to see for myself. This app works fine on SP1 RC and SP1 RC Refresh.

So basically this guy has a OS load or software/hardware issue.

What is it that they call false information spread by some type of media outlet? Propaganda?

Sounds like a lot of people didn't know what DVD43 was.... now they do. Perhaps someone fooled the right people to get their program on a few popular sites.

OMG vista sp1 broke my ati drivers... they must hate ati now. Can someone delete this from the front page news? lol

This is a joke and not news.
The software in question is incompatible with vista sp1, vista sp1 does not in any way limit this type of functionality.

Please dont post this as news.

This truly is NOT news. I mean:

"MICROSOFT IS BLOCKING TORRENTS. WITH NEW SERVICEPACK MY APPLICATION XYZ DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE!"

Give us a break.

(Harbinger said @ #1)
This truly is NOT news. I mean:

"MICROSOFT IS BLOCKING TORRENTS. WITH NEW SERVICEPACK MY APPLICATION XYZ DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE!"

Give us a break.

What!? When!? How!? ..... I have installed all the beta releases of Vista SP1 and no problem with my torrents apps

(daniel_rh said @ #9.1)

What!? When!? How!? ..... I have installed all the beta releases of Vista SP1 and no problem with my torrents apps

he was being sarcastic :P

that is no excuse,vista is fine just the apps need to be updated to work with it and viola no problems just like anything else,what do you have against vista?have you even tried it?if not try it and give it time,all oses go through this even xp did.vista is fine but alot of older apps need to updated for it to work.

(Redant751 said @ #7)
Yet an other reason not to use Vista. :angry:

Because some guy is too stupid to realize that just because SP1 broke A SINGLE ripping app, that doesn't mean there's a conspiracy?

Since when is user stupidity a news item nowadays?

Oh right, it's Steven Parker vigorously pushing his anti-Vista agenda again. Seriously, somebody get this guy a real job.

Anti-Vista? I am pretty sure he uses Vista. He must also hate Apple and Linux, since he doesn't use those. So, what do you think he uses? BeOS?

(markjensen said @ #4.1)
Anti-Vista? I am pretty sure he uses Vista. He must also hate Apple and Linux, since he doesn't use those. So, what do you think he uses? BeOS?

XP

(markjensen said @ #4.1)
Anti-Vista? I am pretty sure he uses Vista. He must also hate Apple and Linux, since he doesn't use those. So, what do you think he uses? BeOS?

ReactOS, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, BeOS, FreeDOS... There are quite a few operating systems that aren't even Windows, Mac or Linux. :)

I won't even get into things like IBM's AIX operating system...