Is Verizon going to release new Windows Phones?

Verizon has been somewhat cool toward Windows Phone in the past but that may finally be changing. News.com reports that during Verizon's quarterly conference call with financial analysts today, the wireless carrier's chief financial officer, Fran Shammo, claimed that the company was "fully supportive" of Microsoft's efforts with Windows Phone.

Shammo said that Verizon helped to launch the Android OS with the success of its Droid line of smartphones and added that the company is "looking to do the same thing with a third ecosystem."

Standard & Poor's equity analyst Todd Rosenbluth said that Shammo's remarks today could be an early signal of more Windows Phone releases from Verizon, saying, "It hints that there's a Nokia device that could appear on the Verizon network in the near future."

Verizon currently only sells one Windows Phone device, the HTC Trophy which was first launched in October 2010. Verizon didn't sell any of the smartphones released as part of the Windows Phone 7.5 update in 2011.

A few months ago, a Verizon executive said, "We've communicated to Microsoft that LTE is critical to us. We need to see a timeline that makes sense if we want to continue to represent them." With the newly launched Nokia Lumia 900 supporting LTE on AT&T's network, it's more than possible than Verizon that could finally be jumping back onto the Windows Phone train, especially with the early sales success of the Lumia 900.

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If true I hope it's soon. My current Android phone is a slow, crashy headache and I am anxious to upgrade. I'm eligible for a discount in about a month and was going to just get another Android device but after my miserable experience with the Galaxy S I'd gladly try something new.

BigBoy said,
I do not expect anything before WP8 release. But then... that will be just in time to replace my HTC Trophy!

The original article said that Verizon Wireless is looking at Windows Phone 8.

deadonthefloor said,
This is just MS getting even for KIN.

You've almost paid your dues, Verizon.

It seemed to me like it was Verizon trying to get even at Microsoft. It's really very juvenile.

M_Lyons10 said,

It seemed to me like it was Verizon trying to get even at Microsoft. It's really very juvenile.

It was the lack of LTE. Nothing more than that.

deadonthefloor said,
This is just MS getting even for KIN.

You've almost paid your dues, Verizon.

Unfortunately, MS needs Verizon more than Verizon needs MS.

UndergroundWire said,

It was the lack of LTE. Nothing more than that.


Really? LTE Windows Phones are available. How come Verizon Wireless has't release any yet?

Enron said,

Unfortunately, MS needs Verizon more than Verizon needs MS.

You're kidding, right? The are hundreds of carriers around the planet. USA is NOT the world. Yes, I know Verizon is important for the US market, but it's not THAT important to MS.

UndergroundWire said,

It was the lack of LTE. Nothing more than that.

And then it came and they still did not release a phone. Somehow that just doesn't add up. lol

illegaloperation said,

Really? LTE Windows Phones are available. How come Verizon Wireless has't release any yet?

Name all the Windows Phones with LTE? The Lumia 900 and?

M_Lyons10 said,

And then it came and they still did not release a phone. Somehow that just doesn't add up. lol

It just came out. Are you one of those people when the light turns green you honk your horn?

Drossel said,

You're kidding, right? The are hundreds of carriers around the planet. USA is NOT the world. Yes, I know Verizon is important for the US market, but it's not THAT important to MS.

Well I'm not sure what the rest of the world is using for high speed data transfer. If it's not LTE, let me know what it is. As for the US, it's a big market, and Verizon is a major player. With Windows Phone coming from 1% market share, I would say it is important for MS to meet the demands of the carrier right now, as long as that doesn't mean having them muck up the OS with intrusive carrierware.

UndergroundWire said,

It was the lack of LTE. Nothing more than that.

Really? Want to wager on this?

Has Verizon added any non-LTE phones in this time period? Say, an new iPhone, or several new Android phones? (Yes they have.)

WP7 LTE devices have been available for a while now as well.

The Verizon and Microsoft issues have a lot of background politics, and Apple played a role in it as well. With both Verizon using WP7 as a threat to Apple and then Apple demanding Verizon to sideline WP7. There is also the Microsoft being POed at Verizon for dropping their commitments and Verizon getting POed with Microsoft later on.

CDMA would have been available at the WP7 launch if Verizon was going to 'play', bu they refused, so the CDMA version was delayed as only Sprint had minor interest in it. (Microsoft instead was working on a Global strategy to get some market inroads - which is why even the HTC Trophy had a quad/tri band radio when released in Europe with only the GSM functional. It is one of the few 'Global' phones Verizon offers still, as it fully supports GSM in addition to CDMA.)

Technology politics is like watching children slapping each other, in a pure narcissistic tantrum.

johnnyq3 said,

HTC Radar 4G

You're joking? Right? Read my question again.

illegaloperation said,

HTC Titan II

And when did that come out? Oh April 8th You say.

thenetavenger said,

Really? Want to wager on this?

Has Verizon added any non-LTE phones in this time period? Say, an new iPhone, or several new Android phones? (Yes they have.)

WP7 LTE devices have been available for a while now as well.

The Verizon and Microsoft issues have a lot of background politics, and Apple played a role in it as well. With both Verizon using WP7 as a threat to Apple and then Apple demanding Verizon to sideline WP7. There is also the Microsoft being POed at Verizon for dropping their commitments and Verizon getting POed with Microsoft later on.

CDMA would have been available at the WP7 launch if Verizon was going to 'play', bu they refused, so the CDMA version was delayed as only Sprint had minor interest in it. (Microsoft instead was working on a Global strategy to get some market inroads - which is why even the HTC Trophy had a quad/tri band radio when released in Europe with only the GSM functional. It is one of the few 'Global' phones Verizon offers still, as it fully supports GSM in addition to CDMA.)

Technology politics is like watching children slapping each other, in a pure narcissistic tantrum.

If you knew anything about the company you wouldn't say such foolish things. Apple is the exception to the rule as well as Push to talk devices since they are nowhere near compatible to 4G LTE.

The non LTE devices they added for Android were planned for release before Verizon put that stipulation.

Let me guess Verizon is Evil too? They kill babies? The whole world, is against Microsoft? Any new conspiracy theories for me today? My tinfoil hat needs to be used today.

UndergroundWire said,

It just came out. Are you one of those people when the light turns green you honk your horn?

Microsoft came out MONTHS ago and stated that LTE was available to any carrier and OEM that wanted it. This was before Verizon even criticized the lack of LTE. Please don't confuse the release date of a phone for the completion and availability of a feature... Particularly one that would have required a tremendous amount of testing by Microsoft, Nokia, AT&T, and any other carrier interested in it. The Lumia 900 wasn't released 2 days after LTE support was baked in.

M_Lyons10 said,

Microsoft came out MONTHS ago and stated that LTE was available to any carrier and OEM that wanted it. This was before Verizon even criticized the lack of LTE. Please don't confuse the release date of a phone for the completion and availability of a feature... Particularly one that would have required a tremendous amount of testing by Microsoft, Nokia, AT&T, and any other carrier interested in it. The Lumia 900 wasn't released 2 days after LTE support was baked in.

Again, like I said before, the MANUFACTURERS ARE TO BLAME. Why is this so hard to understand? I never said Windows Phone or Microsoft didn't support LTE. So again, I'll ask you when was the first LTE device for Windows Phone released?

Do you guys purposely overlook what I write? I did say manufacturers. Why are you ASSUMING I meant Microsoft?

I stated this yesterday on this thread:
http://www.neowin.net/news/is-...dows-phones#comment-1751071
http://www.neowin.net/news/is-...dows-phones#comment-1751423

The HTC Trophy came out in May 2011. Before Mango, but still not part of the original launch, which did not support CDMA.

Oh god, I hope this is true. My contract is up in May, and i was extremely worried i would have to get another Android phone - i've yet to have a good experience with android across the two phones i've owned.

Tharp Daddy said,
Oh god, I hope this is true. My contract is up in May, and i was extremely worried i would have to get another Android phone - i've yet to have a good experience with android across the two phones i've owned.

You might want to wait for the fall regardless though, if WP8 devices are going to be shipping then. My contract is up in the fall and I can't wait to see what comes to Verizon that I can upgrade to.

Tharp Daddy said,
Oh god, I hope this is true. My contract is up in May, and i was extremely worried i would have to get another Android phone - i've yet to have a good experience with android across the two phones i've owned.

The HTC Trophy is a solid device, and even if you have to eat an additional $150 upgrade fee when the next series of phones come out, it is better than resigning for an Android phone.

efjay said,
As always, when these execs see money, they start salivating.

Yep. They see that the Lumia is selling well, and all of a sudden want a piece of the pie.

primortal said,
Lets hope they aren't waiting for WP8 to continue to offer more phones.

At this rate, with WP8 apparently shipping this fall, I would imagine they probably are. Nothing I've seen has indicated that they had any devices in the wings and they've known about LTE support for quite some time as well and done nothing.

primortal said,
Lets hope they aren't waiting for WP8 to continue to offer more phones.

I am afraid Verizon Wireless is.

"We're really looking at the Windows Phone 8.0 platform because that's a differentiator. We're working with Microsoft on it," Shammo said in an interview following Verizon's earnings conference call.

They better be releasing new Wp7 phones for Verizon.

I don't see how people can take Microsoft and WP7 seriously if they don't have decent phones on big red's network.

Yoofie said,
I don't see how people can take Microsoft and WP7 seriously if they don't have decent phones on big red's network.
That was more Verizon's fault than Microsoft's though

Brando212 said,
That was more Verizon's fault than Microsoft's though

How is it Verizon's fault that no/little compatible hardware has been launched running WP

thealexweb said,

How is it Verizon's fault that no/little compatible hardware has been launched running WP

because Verizon decided that they didn't care enough to launch anything else besides that one phone

Brando212 said,
because Verizon decided that they didn't care enough to launch anything else besides that one phone

Exactly. Verizon was the one that didn't want to launch Windows Phone on their network.

Yoofie said,
They better be releasing new Wp7 phones for Verizon.

I don't see how people can take Microsoft and WP7 seriously if they don't have decent phones on big red's network.

You mean like how no one took Apple serious with no phones on Verizon. Big Red just waited for someone else to spend the marketing bucks.

pwgarner said,

You mean like how no one took Apple serious with no phones on Verizon. Big Red just waited for someone else to spend the marketing bucks.

And take the risk. Verizon has shown themselves to be a company that expects money to be thrown at them, but that doesn't want to take any of the risk necessary to drive that growth...

Brando212 said,
That was more Verizon's fault than Microsoft's though

Verizon doesn't want any new phones on their network that doesn't have LTE. It is more of the manufacturers fault for not bringing any LTE Windows Phones.

UndergroundWire said,

Verizon doesn't want any new phones on their network that doesn't have LTE. It is more of the manufacturers fault for not bringing any LTE Windows Phones.

True, but it's more the fact that, AFAIK, Windows Phone didn't support LTE initially.

UndergroundWire said,

Verizon doesn't want any new phones on their network that doesn't have LTE. It is more of the manufacturers fault for not bringing any LTE Windows Phones.

Yeah well now they finally have LTE Windows Phones so hopefully they'll have one soon on Verizon, unless they're just waiting for Windows Phone 8. WP8 sounds like it'll finally shut some people up about hardware specs, but they'll never please everybody.

UndergroundWire said,

Verizon doesn't want any new phones on their network that doesn't have LTE. It is more of the manufacturers fault for not bringing any LTE Windows Phones.


Windows Phones support LTE.

Enron said,

Yeah well now they finally have LTE Windows Phones so hopefully they'll have one soon on Verizon, unless they're just waiting for Windows Phone 8. WP8 sounds like it'll finally shut some people up about hardware specs, but they'll never please everybody.


"We're really looking at the Windows Phone 8.0 platform because that's a differentiator. We're working with Microsoft on it," Shammo said in an interview following Verizon's earnings conference call.

illegaloperation said,

"We're really looking at the Windows Phone 8.0 platform because that's a differentiator. We're working with Microsoft on it," Shammo said in an interview following Verizon's earnings conference call.

And there we have it. That's what I figured would be the case...

M_Lyons10 said,

And there we have it. That's what I figured would be the case...

Yeah no one is surprised. But Windows Phone 8 looks promising for a few reasons. The tiles will be customizable, and if the rumors are correct, carriers can customize these phones (which is highly needed if they expect carriers to push it.)

Yoofie said,
They better be releasing new Wp7 phones for Verizon.

I don't see how people can take Microsoft and WP7 seriously if they don't have decent phones on big red's network.

Because Verizon was gearing for WP7, and per Apple's request to get the CDMA iPhone, shelved more WP7 support.

Verizon leveraged WP7 as becoming their focus product, to get the iPhone deal, and in return shelved WP7 support to get the iPhone deal.

(Go look at the product announcements, products and dates if you don't have access to Verizon sources to put the puzzle together.)

Shadrack said,

Exactly. Verizon was the one that didn't want to launch Windows Phone on their network.

They probably didn't, but used WP7 as leverage to get the iPhone...

thealexweb said,

How is it Verizon's fault that no/little compatible hardware has been launched running WP

A Bing/Google search before you make up something and post it would save you future embarrassment.

UndergroundWire said,

Verizon doesn't want any new phones on their network that doesn't have LTE. It is more of the manufacturers fault for not bringing any LTE Windows Phones.

Like another commenter, you do realize you can do a Bing/Google search to quickly verify how insane your conjecture is before you post it.