Israel uses Facebook to blacklist airline passengers

Maybe Julian Assange was onto something when he called Facebook an “appalling spy machine.” The social media site that is used for sharing personal tidbits of information is also used to bring groups of like-minded people together. According to the AP, someone created a group urging Palestinian supporters to travel to the West Bank through Tel Aviv and protest Israel’s control of the area.

Israeli officials found the group’s plans on Facebook and then compiled a list of roughly 300 people who were planning on participating in the protest. The government sent this list out to the various airlines and told them that the passengers would not be accepted into the country. Many of the passengers were barred from boarding flights in their home countries while those who managed to fly were diverted to a secure area of the Tel Aviv airport and quickly deported. The Israeli government claims that the protestors were planning on causing disruptions in the country, but the protestors say that they were simply on a “fact finding mission.”

We’ve all heard stories about people being fired from their jobs because of their activity on Facebook, but this is an entire government making decisions based on the social media site. This should be a constant reminder that while the Internet is great at bringing people together from across the globe, there are people watching that you might not want to share with.

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"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"
-Asimov (my favorite author, and he was a jew).

For this matter, discriminating a group of person is not only illegal but counter-productive. Over-reacting is showing a big degree of incompetence.

Also, strategically is idiot. For instance, and if you are a real terrorist (that i hate), they are advised to not to use facebook (or any social network) for their evil deeds.

Magallanes said,
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"
-Asimov (my favorite author, and he was a jew).

For this matter, discriminating a group of person is not only illegal but counter-productive. Over-reacting is showing a big degree of incompetence.

Also, strategically is idiot. For instance, and if you are a real terrorist (that i hate), they are advised to not to use facebook (or any social network) for their evil deeds.


I'm thinking Israel took the Facebook crap seriously because of the recent Syrian border incident (and Lebanese) as the folks involved planned that crapfest on Facebook and Israel ignored.

Also, yeah it is somewhat counter-productive in the sense that it causes more exposure than it might have originally gotten, but in what universe is that illegal ? I'd LOVE to see a single lawsuit being filed and WON by those retards, I'm willing you bet my life on it that not even one will get to "court". Also, there's no discrimination, they made their intentions clear and Israel has every right to reject entrance to anyone they want. Don't like it ? No one is asking you to come here, stay in America or France or wherever the hell you're from.

stupid people everywhere.. one fight another and kill each other .. other protest
about damn time the world unites and starts exploring and conquering worlds outside earth.. instead they are fighting and killing each other here and there (chechnya, israel, bosna & herzegovena.. etc) for 10 meters of land and some horse poo on it

allwynd said,
stupid people everywhere.. one fight another and kill each other .. other protest
about damn time the world unites and starts exploring and conquering worlds outside earth.. instead they are fighting and killing each other here and there (chechnya, israel, bosna & herzegovena.. etc) for 10 meters of land and some horse poo on it

The world probably won't ever unite peacefully unless faced with some scary external threat.

Laughable how Israel is supposed to be the only democracy in the Middle East yet they disallow protests which are the cornerstone of democracy. Shame on those here who support such a fascist regime.

Ricky65 said,
Laughable how Israel is supposed to be the only democracy in the Middle East yet they disallow protests which are the cornerstone of democracy. Shame on those here who support such a fascist regime.

Wait...I thought these people were coming from out of country to protest. Why should they be allowed the same privileges?

Ricky65 said,
Laughable how Israel is supposed to be the only democracy in the Middle East yet they disallow protests which are the cornerstone of democracy. Shame on those here who support such a fascist regime.

Shame that you're so ignorant, brush up on current events or something, there are plenty of protests in Israel, about all sort of things, it's all allowed but at the same time Israel has the right to disperse any protest that they deem dangerous.

It was the right choice, 300 retards can easily create a mess in an airport and cause incredible damage in terms of money lost to both companies and individuals.

Inclined said,

Shame that you're so ignorant, brush up on current events or something, there are plenty of protests in Israel, about all sort of things, it's all allowed but at the same time Israel has the right to disperse any protest that they deem dangerous.

It was the right choice, 300 retards can easily create a mess in an airport and cause incredible damage in terms of money lost to both companies and individuals.

Oh yeah right Money damage! That's very important to prevent than letting a group protest about damage to innocent lives.
And actually, i think protesting is kind of stupid against a state that doesn't give a **** about what UN says.

Inclined said,

Shame that you're so ignorant, brush up on current events or something, there are plenty of protests in Israel, about all sort of things, it's all allowed but at the same time Israel has the right to disperse any protest that they deem dangerous.

It was the right choice, 300 retards can easily create a mess in an airport and cause incredible damage in terms of money lost to both companies and individuals.

Yes, that's right, if you're against fascism you must be "ignorant". If you criticise Israel you must be "ignorant". Err, no. As an Israeli you are blinkered on this issue, you have a deep bias in favour of Israel. Unlike people with an outside perspective, I know of few Israelis who can tackle this issue rationally.

Your comment that protesting in Israel is "allowed" is ludicrous. Peaceful Palestinian protests are routinely squashed by the military, a clear violation of their human rights. Only fascist regimes engage in such activity.

You mentioned that the protestors "can" cause damage. There is no such thing as a pre-crime. That's the equivalent of me arresting you now because you "could" cause damage to property in the future. That logic is so flawed, only the terminally stupid can use it.

Ricky65 said,

Yes, that's right, if you're against fascism you must be "ignorant". If you criticise Israel you must be "ignorant". Err, no. As an Israeli you are blinkered on this issue, you have a deep bias in favour of Israel. Unlike people with an outside perspective, I know of few Israelis who can tackle this issue rationally.

Your comment that protesting in Israel is "allowed" is ludicrous. Peaceful Palestinian protests are routinely squashed by the military, a clear violation of their human rights. Only fascist regimes engage in such activity.

You mentioned that the protestors "can" cause damage. There is no such thing as a pre-crime. That's the equivalent of me arresting you now because you "could" cause damage to property in the future. That logic is so flawed, only the terminally stupid can use it.


I'd love to see you in RWI, haha, I heard all those things before and we tore those arguments apart time and time again, do come over and start a thread.

gzAsher said,
Oh yeah right Money damage! That's very important to prevent than letting a group protest about damage to innocent lives.
And actually, i think protesting is kind of stupid against a state that doesn't give a **** about what UN says.

Hmm, and here I was just reading about how the citizens in Israeli governments generally have better conditions than those in some neighboring territories.

"Oh yeah right Money damage!"
People can be killed too, lol.

"And actually, i think protesting is kind of stupid against a state that doesn't give a **** about what UN says."
Maybe the UN is biased against Israel, or the UN is wrong.

LaserWraith said,

People can be killed too, lol.
Wow thats really such a ridiculous excuse. You're telling me that israel, who doesnt blink an eye when it comes to shooting civilians, isn't properly equipped to ensure a peaceful demonstration by the Unarmed protestors?! Why is it that israelis think only Jewish life is valuable, the rest of humankind being expendable.
LaserWraith said,

Maybe the UN is biased against israel, or the UN is wrong.
Ofc the UN and the whole world is wrong because israel can never be wrong correct? Pointing out the countless human rights voilation by israel makes you biased. No other state dares defy the order of the International Court of Justice or the superpowers will be all over it, impose sanctions and whatnot. Why treat israel differently? About time you wake up.

gzAsher said,
Wow thats really such a ridiculous excuse. You're telling me that israel, who doesnt blink an eye when it comes to shooting civilians, isn't properly equipped to ensure a peaceful demonstration by the Unarmed protestors?! Why is it that israelis think only Jewish life is valuable, the rest of humankind being expendable.

Ofc the UN and the whole world is wrong because israel can never be wrong correct? Pointing out the countless human rights voilation by israel makes you biased. No other state dares defy the order of the International Court of Justice or the superpowers will be all over it, impose sanctions and whatnot. Why treat israel differently? About time you wake up.

"You're telling me that israel, who doesnt blink an eye when it comes to shooting civilians"
Apparently, many of these so-called citizens are often terrorists.
Why are you supporting terrorists?
http://www.americanthinker.com...st_maligns_israel_with.html

"Why is it that israelis think only Jewish life is valuable, the rest of humankind being expendable."
Wrong again.
http://www.americanthinker.com...disproportionate_respo.html
BTW, as the article says, none of the 25 Arab League nations sent anything to help. Lol.

It seems to me much of Israel's problems are exaggerated and twisted to make them seem worse. Beside, as to the whole thing that Israelis are occupying Arab territory, Israel existed back around 6th century B.C. http://www.americanthinker.com...y_63rd_birthday_israel.html

Inclined said,

I'd love to see you in RWI, haha, I heard all those things before and we tore those arguments apart time and time again, do come over and start a thread.

lol is that the best you can do? I was expecting at least some kind of response to the points I made. All you can write is you "tore those arguments apart time and time again". If so, why didn't you post any here? I would suggest it's because they're weak and don't stand up to scrutiny. It does't matter anyway, you can justify anything, it's the morality of the situation which counts.

Ricky65 said,

lol is that the best you can do? I was expecting at least some kind of response to the points I made. All you can write is you "tore those arguments apart time and time again". If so, why didn't you post any here? I would suggest it's because they're weak and don't stand up to scrutiny. It does't matter anyway, you can justify anything, it's the morality of the situation which counts.

Let's pretend you're Israel. You are a small country, only recently back in repossession of its land (recently compared to the age of most countries). You are surrounded by more or less hostile nations. Many of the Muslims in those countries hate Israel. Furthermore, some of the governments of the big nations (like the U.S., maybe) are starting to dislike you a bit (and, looking at some old news, some unfair UN actions).

You've been the target of terrorists who like to blow up your citizens. The media targets you when you retaliate to protect your country, calling many of the terrorists civilians.

You know what, I see tons of reasons to not allow a bunch of very potential trouble into a country that is basically at something like a defensive war.

Ricky65 said,

lol is that the best you can do? I was expecting at least some kind of response to the points I made. All you can write is you "tore those arguments apart time and time again". If so, why didn't you post any here? I would suggest it's because they're weak and don't stand up to scrutiny. It does't matter anyway, you can justify anything, it's the morality of the situation which counts.


You are more than welcome to try your luck in RWI, I'm not arguing on purpose, it is off-topic.
Seriously, just copy & paste your "arguments" and you're done.

KingCrimson said,
Go Israel, smash 'em!

Do you think that this measure will lower the anti-isreal sentiment?. I think it is the opposite.

Honestly, its silly to assume it hasn't been used for this before. All you data is out there and for a vast majority of users its not set to private. All you say and do is there for the public to see. And people willingly put it up there without a notion of just how public everything they say is.

efjay said,
So did the Isreli govt actually hack into facebook or just join the group to see who was a member?

From everything I could find, it sounds like they just joined the group.

efjay said,
So did the Isreli govt actually hack into facebook or just join the group to see who was a member?

You know how it is, if Israel did it, it's automatically seen as sinister.

Fezmid said,

From everything I could find, it sounds like they just joined the group.
I take it you can see group activity without joining no?

episode said,
Is this an editorial or a news story?

It's pretty clearly a news story, no? "People organize on Facebook. Israel notices this and blocks their plans. Be careful what you write in public forums." I don't see any opinion...

Fezmid said,

It's pretty clearly a news story, no? "People organize on Facebook. Israel notices this and blocks their plans. Be careful what you write in public forums." I don't see any opinion...

Agreed. This is indeed a news story.

episode said,
Is this an editorial or a news story?

Well it's starts as a news story, and then ends as an editorial.

FMH said,

Well it's starts as a news story, and then ends as an editorial.

Exactly my point. First line is obvious editorializing, then some news, then more editorializing. Doing one or the other is perfectly fine, but they shouldn't be combined.

kingius said,
Not to take sides on an Israeli-Palestanian issue, but the 'protestors' got what they deserved!

Well you just did take sides. You are doing a very unfortunate thing, which is equating supporters of the 'Palestinian cause' with supporters of terrorism, which is at all not true. One can protest occupation without supporting suicide bombers. The majority of those who sympathise with the palestinians think that way. Neowin is not the platform for political debate, so I don't care about starting one, but I wanted the different (more accurate) view represented: this is a complex conflict and if we think anyone who protests the other does not deserve to do so then we are fooling ourselves.

EyasSH said,

Well you just did take sides. You are doing a very unfortunate thing, which is equating supporters of the 'Palestinian cause' with supporters of terrorism, which is at all not true. One can protest occupation without supporting suicide bombers. The majority of those who sympathise with the palestinians think that way. Neowin is not the platform for political debate, so I don't care about starting one, but I wanted the different (more accurate) view represented: this is a complex conflict and if we think anyone who protests the other does not deserve to do so then we are fooling ourselves.

Strawman. kingius wasn't talking about suicide bombers or Palestinian cause, he specifically mentioned that the PROTESTERS THEMSELVES got what they deserve. Try to keep up.

Clearly the protesters were foolish to use a public forum like Facebook to conduct business, as anyone, including the Israeli government, could see it and use it against them.

kingius said,
Not to take sides on an Israeli-Palestanian issue, but the 'protestors' got what they deserved!

Agreed, although I'm a bit surprised at the overall positive response in the comments. If the US did something like this, I could only imagine the criticism people could be whining about.

testman said,

Strawman. kingius wasn't talking about suicide bombers or Palestinian cause, he specifically mentioned that the PROTESTERS THEMSELVES got what they deserve. Try to keep up.

Clearly the protesters were foolish to use a public forum like Facebook to conduct business, as anyone, including the Israeli government, could see it and use it against them.


I tried to give kingius the benefit of the doubt by my statement, assuming he opposed the protesters or thought they got what they deserved for a legitimate political reason. Otherwise, if his point is as you say it, then there are huge flaws: the protesters are supposed to be able to publically proclaim that they will protest: freedom of expression, peaceful protest, and assembly dictates that israel must respect protesters. If people are visiting a protest to show their agreement, Israel has no business blacklisting these people. By simply saying that they got what they deserved because they used a public forum which israel can use, you are either making a horrible statement about Israel as a coutnry contrary to these freedoms, or a statement about yourself as someone who doesn't believe in these freedoms.

Simon- said,
They were on a fact finding mission and the facts were found ... don't mess with the Israelis.

+1 - God bless the Israelis

Amen! Israel doesn't go for that "PC" garbage. The profile those MOST LIKELY to cause problems.

Simon- said,
They were on a fact finding mission and the facts were found ... don't mess with the Israelis.

naap51stang said,
Amen! Israel doesn't go for that "PC" garbage. The profile those MOST LIKELY to cause problems.

Yeah. Non-Jew = Blacklist..............