It's Official: ATI's R600 Delayed

News of the delay was first rumoured over at the Inquirer, then blogged over at Engadget and finally landed in our Back Page News subforum. According to the original source, the "R600 presentation and introduction is pushed to a later date. It is pushed back for launch in Q2 and this comes officially from AMD." I hesitated to write about this unfortunate report, but now I have no choice. It looks like AMD's first DirectX 10-compatible card isn't yet on its way. According to ExtremeTech's Loyd Case, ATI (AMD's graphics division) representatives personally and officially confirmed that cards based on the chip have been delayed. ExtremeTech's article went on to say that unconfirmed problems hinted at "a respin of the silicon". NVIDIA must have tears in their eyes, from laughing so hard.

Link: Forum Discussion (Thanks Digix)
News source: ExtremeTech

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ATi was always more or less a bit slow with new card generations, but never like this, infact, this is AMD delay level stuff going on. It seems after AMD got ATi, the problems and delays we all know AMD for brushed off on ATi.

While nVidia keeps releaseing DX10 cards (all be it with ****ty drivers), and intel releases new chipsets and cpus earlier then expected (45nm has been pushed forward), AMD is praying they don't have to delay anything else.

Big deal they delayed it. There are no games out (i believe) that even use DX10. Most games won't even use DX10 until late summer probally anyway.

Has anyone ever thought that maybe AMD/ATI knows this and delayed shipping DX10 cards, to um.... I don't know, maybe make them better, smaller, faster, cheaper in cost for consumers.

Grow up ppl. Big deal you can't get a DX10 card for awhile longer. Boo-hoo....lol.

What's with the CONSTANT clarification as to ATi being a division of AMD? It seems everywhere I read about ATI it says "a graphics division of AMD" or I read "AMD is coming out with bla bla under the ATI department.." etc. etc. Say it once and just don't say it again! It's either AMD or ATI don't need to say both!

j0j081 said,
Where are all the ATI rox0rs/Nvidia sux0rs fans now?

1. Probably shocked (as we all are) that the Inq was actually right for once.
2. Probably taking some valium after this news went official.

j0j081 said,
Where are all the ATI rox0rs/Nvidia sux0rs fans now?

Still here, and I'm actually happy it got delayed -- this just means the R600 will be even better than it was going to originally be. Anytime there is a delay it just means they're going back to work on it to make it better than ever.

Considering the difference in the hardware, the GeForce 8800 GTX(http://www.extremetech.com/image_popup/0,1694,iid=154411,00.asp) isn't doing so hot. 13 FPS difference between the X1900 XTX and the 8800 GTX in HL2? Laughable. It's a shame they didn't benchmark the X1950 XTX instead of the X1900 XTX. The R580 is almost as good as the G80; in fact, you can't tell the difference between the two cards performance wise with the naked eye--both cards are able to maintain an amazingly high frame rate.

What is really comes down to is what can play something at a high resolution rate with at least 30 FPS with everything cranked up, and both cards get the job done -- beyond that, it's just bragging rights. For gaming, I prefer 30-40 FPS over 70+; I just think it makes everything look much more fluid. If it can't maintain 60 FPS or higher all the time, I don't want it to go over 35-45ish at all then (in fact, I like to institute about a 45 FPS cap). Not to mention, because something "averages" 100+ FPS, doesn't mean it doesn't dip down to 30 FPS at times, which is very aggrivating, not to mention, which is why being able to benchmark over 100 FPS is effectively, well, pointless.

8800GTX is 10.6" long this OEM card is 12" that how big they are in comparison.

8800GTX 10.6" = 26.9cm

X2800 XTX OEM 12.4" = 31.4cm

Aahz said,
And none of it matters until there are DirectX 10 games on the shelves.

Tell that to the droves of enthusiasts who dropped the green already for 8800 cards and to all the ATI followers drooling with baited breath for a R600 card.

NVidia aren't really laughing right now. Their DX10 line and drivers are worse than having none at all.
So says the major lawsuit people are starting against them.

Their DX10 line and drivers are worse than having none at all.

It's bad, but not that bad. I'm having really nice performance from my 8800GTS already, and TV out on my config has started working too. Now, if you excuse me, I'm just going to start up DX10 Supreme Commander.

chaosblade said,
NVidia aren't really laughing right now. Their DX10 line and drivers are worse than having none at all.
So says the major lawsuit people are starting against them.

I dont see any DX10 games yet, do you?

Jugalator said,
Now, if you excuse me, I'm just going to start up DX10 Supreme Commander. ;)
Wasnt DX10 support only due to arrive in a march patch?

macrosslover said,
why is the oem version longer?

Probably to allow easier and more secure bracing for the card in the chassis to prevent issues when the machines are shipped.

Imnotrichey said,
maybe that will give the manufacturers of cases time to get ready for a fricking 12 inch long video card

uh they already should be? thats a full length card, which all cases should of supported to start with in at least one slot

neufuse said,

uh they already should be? thats a full length card, which all cases should of supported to start with in at least one slot

oh really? I thought it was longer than the 8800 GTX that people been posting the threads about "will it fit"

It seemed a lot longer than the standard card from the picture I saw, but I could be wrong

oh really? I thought it was longer than the 8800 GTX that people been posting the threads about "will it fit"

It seemed a lot longer than the standard card from the picture I saw, but I could be wrong

The OEM version is longer but the retail version is actually a little shorter than a 8800GTX