It's yet another grey day for the colourful iPhone 5c as orders are reportedly cut

Since its announcement and subsequent release, the iPhone 5c has suffered from a sometimes unfair amount of negative press. Neowin previously reported that the 5c hasn’t been performing as well as its slight more expensive sibling, the iPhone 5s.

Last month, Neowin wrote that Apple was planning on cutting production of the 5c following weak sales. Well now, it seems that plan has become a very real implementation.

Foxconn is stopping production of the 5c at one of its factories, switching its focus towards increasing production for the more in demand 5s. Sources, cited by DigiTimes said:

Foxconn Electronics (Hon Hai Precision Industry) will stop production of the iPhone 5c at its factory in Zhengzhou, northern China, and shift the capacity to iPhone 5s, according to industry sources.

While credibility of the story can be questioned, based on DigiTimes spotty accuracy rate, it does seem to be more in line with previous rumours, stories and reports that have been doing the rounds over the past seven weeks following the 5c release.

While this doesn't indicate the device is a failure, and we don’t doubt that many of you will say it’s Apple’s way of gracefully letting the product go, it does prove that the general consumer is prepared to pay for and demand the more expensive 5s handset.

Source: 9to5 Mac | Image via Apple

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From sales figures posted earlier it would seem the iPhone5 is still outselling the 5S and 5C by a factor of 3:1 so overall sales of the latest models are not so hot at all. People just get the , now much cheaper, iPhone5 and Apple is spinning this as if they sell boatloads of the S or C which they don't

paulheu said,
From sales figures posted earlier it would seem the iPhone5 is still outselling the 5S and 5C by a factor of 3:1 so overall sales of the latest models are not so hot at all. People just get the , now much cheaper, iPhone5 and Apple is spinning this as if they sell boatloads of the S or C which they don't

Iphone 5 is discontinued.

This device should never have been released. It's not a budget product, it's still priced in the premium end of the price range and as such does not really represent a real attempt to break into the low and mid range markets. All it does is dilute the brand.

There is such a huge demand for a cheaper iPhone they missed a massive opportunity. £300 off contract and they would have been onto a winner.

It just goes to show that the consumers are smarter than perhaps Apple was giving them credit for. Sure, when looking at an on-contract $200 prices vs $100 prices, OMFGBBQ that is 100% increase for the 5S!?!?!

In reality, $550 vs $650? The iPhone 5S only costs ~18% more but is probably worth quite a bit more than that. That's the real difference and articles like this just show that Apple's consumers know better (despite how ignorant and stupid you think all the iSheep are...).

For $100 more you might as well get the 5S. If they truly wanted to differentiate the two... it's basically a 5... they should have gone the budget route and used cheaper, lower spec parts and cut the price. I could see 4S specs for $299-399 off contract being a pretty nice option for people.

PsYcHoKiLLa said,
Apple, it's supposed to be a budget phone and it STILL costs more than all the other phones, it's not brain surgery!!

Except it's not supposed to be a budget phone. Nice try.

PsYcHoKiLLa said,
Apple, it's supposed to be a budget phone and it STILL costs more than all the other phones, it's not brain surgery!!

it costs more because it has the Apple logo on it!

stevan said,
I think it will still sell more than all of WP

think again buddy. according to the latest IDC data apple only sells about 3X more devices than windows phones and this is with windows phone being pretty much a nacent OS versus the prior juggernaut that was iOS. Given the latest stats, if apple looses 4.5% marketshare to windows phone in the next 12 months, WP and iOS will be essentially tied marketshare wise. The difference is single digits at this point.

crazy no? don't underestimate WP, or apples misfortune in mobile.

next time you want to brag, pick a popular platform

neonspark said,

think again buddy. according to the latest IDC data apple only sells about 3X more devices than windows phones and this is with windows phone being pretty much a nacent OS versus the prior juggernaut that was iOS. Given the latest stats, if apple looses 4.5% marketshare to windows phone in the next 12 months, WP and iOS will be essentially tied marketshare wise. The difference is single digits at this point.

Maybe tied marketshare wise, but what about the install base?

benthebear said,

Maybe tied marketshare wise, but what about the install base?

people upgrade usually every year or two, and lets say even 3. it doesnt take long to totally wipe out a base. look at blackberry and symbian.

vcfan said,

people upgrade usually every year or two, and lets say even 3. it doesnt take long to totally wipe out a base. look at blackberry and symbian.

Exactly. Good thing for Apple is they have a very loyal user base.

vcfan said,

people upgrade usually every year or two, and lets say even 3. it doesnt take long to totally wipe out a base. look at blackberry and symbian.

Which won't happen until the iPhone starts selling as bad as Blackberry and Symbian.

People want the latest and greatest device when they upgrade. Cellular companies heavily discount devices for the most part, so when it comes to a choice of a 5C or a 5S and there is only a $100 difference, we know what people are going to choose. After all, they will likely have this device for the next 2 years as part of a contract. At least that is how things are here in Canada.

People ask me "Why buy the latest and greatest all the time?"

My response: 2 years down the line, it won't be as slow as your phone now (holding iPhone 4 bought in 2012 on iOS 7). Ultimately you won't have to pull your hair out to unlock the thing.

This wasn't the case in previous years when they sold the old model for $100 less. People still actually purchased the old model because it wasn't absolute trash.

Gary ///M said,
Ultimately you won't have to pull your hair out to unlock the thing.

Don't give Apple any ideas! You never know, a hair DNA sample might be their follow up to the thumbprint scan.

Nogib said,

Don't give Apple any ideas! You never know, a hair DNA sample might be their follow up to the thumbprint scan.

DNA alone won't be enough, don't forget facial recognition unlocking

It was a silly idea, they would have been better off to keep their old tradition and sell the old "5" at the current 5C price point

While this doesn't indicate the device is a failure

Need to make sure this is put out there, because we can't tarnish Apple's reputation. If any other phone does not sell as many as the iPhone 5S, then it is a failure. But when the iPhone 5C does not sell as many as the 5S and they are shutting down parts of manufacturing, give Apple a break, it can't be a failure.

WhatTheSchmidt said,

Need to make sure this is put out there, because we can't tarnish Apple's reputation. If any other phone does not sell as many as the iPhone 5S, then it is a failure. But when the iPhone 5C does not sell as many as the 5S and they are shutting down parts of manufacturing, give Apple a break, it can't be a failure.

LOL love it

WhatTheSchmidt said,

Need to make sure this is put out there, because we can't tarnish Apple's reputation. If any other phone does not sell as many as the iPhone 5S, then it is a failure. But when the iPhone 5C does not sell as many as the 5S and they are shutting down parts of manufacturing, give Apple a break, it can't be a failure.

Epic.

Sarcasm duly noted But until Apple say that they would/should have done things differently with the device, it's not a failure just because production is being stopped at one factory. All but one factories, maybe, lol Look at it this way, it's still doing better than the Kin ever did!

yeoo_andy_ni said,
Sarcasm duly noted But until Apple say that they would/should have done things differently with the device, it's not a failure just because production is being stopped at one factory. All but one factories, maybe, lol Look at it this way, it's still doing better than the Kin ever did!


Blackberry is doing better than the kin, blackberry is pretty much a failure. How is this doing compared to the blackberries that keep getting reported as failures ?

HawkMan said,


Blackberry is doing better than the kin, blackberry is pretty much a failure. How is this doing compared to the blackberries that keep getting reported as failures ?

T. Michael Walkley, an analyst at Cannacord Genuity, raised his Q4 iPhone sales forecast to 52 million, from 51.5 million. For BlackBerry, however, he lowered his sales forecast to 19 million from 19.7 million units.

Probably not outsell all of Blackberry, but definitely every individual model.

stevan said,

Who said that? Or is this one of those silly things trolls spread around, like apple calling all of their products revolutionary?

Are you F-ing serious? Try looking here: http://www.neowin.net/news/app...on-iphones-over-the-weekend

Here is a quote:

LOL... they sold in a weekend more phones than Microsoft/Nokia sold since WP launch. :-)

To which Ben, who here denies it, proudly puts his smile face in there to show that Apple beat Microsoft.

In that same article there is this quote:

Let's see, there haven't been that many WP sales in a whole *QUARTER* since its release. Talk about a failing product.

Here it is explicitly claimed to be a failing product, and I don't see you nor Ben jumping in to tell them to stop such talk.

That was the only article I looked for, knowing I read it recently. And there you are laughing (sorry, LOLing) about the sales of WP, Ben agreeing, and someone blatantly calling WP a failure.

WhatTheSchmidt said,

Are you F-ing serious? Try looking here: http://www.neowin.net/news/app...on-iphones-over-the-weekend

Here is a quote:
To which Ben, who here denies it, proudly puts his smile face in there to show that Apple beat Microsoft.

In that same article there is this quote:
Here it is explicitly claimed to be a failing product, and I don't see you nor Ben jumping in to tell them to stop such talk.

That was the only article I looked for, knowing I read it recently. And there you are laughing (sorry, LOLing) about the sales of WP, Ben agreeing, and someone blatantly calling WP a failure.

I'll quote Ben again. He sums it up nicely...

A few people have probably said that, so that means everyone thinks that in Schmidt's world.

yeoo_andy_ni said,
Sarcasm duly noted But until Apple say that they would/should have done things differently with the device, it's not a failure

It is not a failure until Apple admits that it is a failure? Unbelievable how far people will go to give Apple a break.

WhatTheSchmidt said,

It is not a failure until Apple admits that it is a failure? Unbelievable how far people will go to give Apple a break.

You see, it has to be compared to something to be able to say it's a failure. What we don't know about Apple strategy here is whether this phone was created to sell well or to drive sales of the 5s up. Since the 5s has higher margins, that could be the case.

Just look at how many people used to think, and by reading this page, still think the 5C was supposed to be a budget phone, yet Apple themselves stated that it isn't.

WhatTheSchmidt said,


To which Ben, who here denies it, proudly puts his smile face in there to show that Apple beat Microsoft.

Was that what that was? I thought I was correcting someone who made a false statement. It might help if you read my reply again.

Mortis said,
LOL... they sold in a weekend more phones than Microsoft/Nokia sold since WP launch. :-)

Then my reply.

benthebear said,
8 million Lumias were sold last quarter. I think .5 million in America.

Window Phone launched in October 2010, and Nokia sold 8 million Lumias last quarter. That means that Windows Phone, in fact, has been sold on way more than 9 million devices since its launch.

Finally, the smiley face was to show that I don't have to be a butthole when I correct someone. But thanks again for proving that you have to fabricate stuff just to argue a point.

illegaloperation said,
Just call the iPhone 5C what it is: an iPhone 5 in a cheaper shell.

Of cause the demand is not going to be that high.


isn't that what the 5c is for? iPhone5cheap

I think they'd say it stands for colour, maybe that way they can convince people that colour is worth spending twice as much as other comparable phones, you know, the same way Apple has convinced people that because something is white you have to pay twice as much.

PsYcHoKiLLa said,
I think they'd say it stands for colour, maybe that way they can convince people that colour is worth spending twice as much as other comparable phones, you know, the same way Apple has convinced people that because something is white you have to pay twice as much.

Looks like they only convinced you.

timster said,

isn't that what the 5c is for? iPhone5cheap

not really. Only $100 less for a device that is already too expensive for the average Joe is not being cheap, just slightly less expensive.

A friend of mine has one and I have to say, I was very impressed with its build quality. Solid and weighty to be fair. And not in a bad way. Doesn't feel like it's plastic in any way.

My mother has one, her first smartphone in fact. I actually recommended it to her since she likes her stuff with a touch of color. It's actually pretty nice. Great quality as Apple products typically are.

Lord Method Man said,
Still have yet to see one of these in the wild.


We have three in boxes at the store. No ones asked about them.

Unlike other apple products shipped in clear plastic cases they also don't have the transport plastic wrapping and the cases are scratched to hell...

Lord Method Man said,
Still have yet to see one of these in the wild.

I saw a white one at the Austin airport on Saturday. I thought it looked nice. Had a classic iPod look to it even though the back was white.

It's cause there's no point in buying one. If you want a cheaper iPhone buy an iPhone 5, not the 5C. Get an excellent condition/refurbished one if you can't find brand new. The 5C just blows and is more expensive than the 5.

it should be free on contract and a maximum of $300 off contract. Both are impossible, which makes me pass on any Apple device.

Just wait when iPhone 6 comes out, everyone with an apple product will feel inferior and inclined to purchase the new iPhone.

nothing will explain what I'm trying to convey more than this video: http://vimeo.com/79695097

Fawzi Breidi said,
Wait when iPhone 6 comes out, everyone with an apple product will feel inferior and inclined to purchase the new iPhone.

I would have to say that's absolutely not true. Most people, at least in the US, buy a new phone when their cellular contract expires. I just got the 5S about a month ago, and I won't care about the 6 in the slightest. A phone is a phone, and there's nothing to feel inferior about.