iTunes 10 available today; new social network Ping

iTunes 10 is available later today, sporting several new features that change how you browse and discover content. This update also comes with a brand new icon, as Apple felt that the CD was outdated and that we as a whole are moving to digital downloads.

Apple has looked more at how screen real estate will be used, and how it can be optimized. With that in mind, the company has decided is that in list view, if there are five or more songs in a row with the same album, then the album art will be shown instead of the repeated text of the album title.

Coming with the new update is Apple's new social network, Ping. Ping is designed to help users find new music, concerts, and connect with friends. This will work much like a hybrid of Facebook and Twitter. You will be able to follow your friends and artists, and they will be able to post images, videos, posts, and show recent activity. Naturally, you will have to setup up a profile associated with your iTunes account to use this feature.

On an artist's page you will be able to see their favorite songs, posts they have made, as well as their next concerts. There will also be a "Follow" button so you can get all of their updates right on your main page.

For your friends, Ping will show their recent songs, posts, concerts they are going to, and people they are following. Privacy however has not been overlooked as you have the option to make all content available to everyone, or you can keep it in a close circle of friends. When viewing profiles and feeds, videos and photos, or photo galleries are able to be accessed right from that page. 

Ping will has over 17,000 concert listings, you will get custom song and album charts based on your friends, and you can post your thoughts and opinions. Ping will also be available on the iPhone and iPod Touch. In the iTunes store on the mobile devices, there will be a "Ping" button. 

iTunes 10 is available today, right here, to 160 million iTunes users in 23 countries.

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Anyone been able to install this without Quicktime?

It won't let me start iTunes X, I'm guessing the latest version doesn't support the old version of Quicktime Alternative.

I thought it was going to be iTunes X like QuickTime X and OS X to be honest. Oh well, not that it changes a lot, but iTunes X would be much cooler to pronounce

Oh and, no FLAC support ? This hasn't been discussed yet. I don't have anything with this format here, but is there any reason why Apple wouldn't support this format? To push their Apple Lossless or what?

PsykX said,
I thought it was going to be iTunes X like QuickTime X and OS X to be honest. Oh well, not that it changes a lot, but iTunes X would be much cooler to pronounce

Oh and, no FLAC support ? This hasn't been discussed yet. I don't have anything with this format here, but is there any reason why Apple wouldn't support this format? To push their Apple Lossless or what?

obviously because they hope to push their close and slower Apple Lossless Apple usually supports open standards and flac is surely the standard in lossless music since it's been adopted by many labels ect. They ditched the cd in the logo because is "old tech" but they still haven't jumped to lossless music that's why i'm ditching iTunes. In 2-3 years with flash memory getting bigger and nets gettings faster i'm pretty sure they'll offer HD-AAC lossless (which should be the universal lossless compatible with everything) or the crappy Apple lossless, i would love flac instead but it's always better than nothing.

Can Ping being accessed without iTunes? If I need to install the bloated iTunes to share my favourite music, why I don't use Facebook for it?

Great. More bloat.

I'd love if Apple went ahead and stopped adding "features" and started actually making the app usable.

Owen Williams said,
Great. More bloat.

I'd love if Apple went ahead and stopped adding "features" and started actually making the app usable.

Your computer must be broken. iTunes is perfectly usable.

Owen Williams said,
Great. More bloat.

I'd love if Apple went ahead and stopped adding "features" and started actually making the app usable.

I'm not sure if there is something wrong with your computer or its just a 'placebo' effect you are having. I have had iTunes installed on Windows and OS X and have yet to have an issue. Though different setups, different results I suppose.

Is it going to be available anytime in the near future? I've been waiting most of the day for it to be available.

DarkNovaGamer said,
Is it going to be available anytime in the near future? I've been waiting most of the day for it to be available.

Hopefully tomorrow, but there are still like 7 hours left in Apple's day.

I will go as far as to agree that iTunes should be more optimized for Windows AND Mac. In my experience, iTunes runs exactly the same in either OS on the same hardware.

But, I don't think it is nearly as bad as many of you make it out to be (in the typical bitch-and-moan rants). It is certainly snappier than Windows Media Player is for me and that is made BY FRIGGEN MICROSOFT. Also, people who say iTunes doesn't "fit in" with Windows...well, maybe Apple is just taking lessons from Microsoft. Since when did MS make anything that "looks" like it belongs in Windows besides Notepad? Last version of Office that "looks" like it belongs in Windows was 2003. WMP, WMM, Windows Live Mail, Windows Messenger, they ALL have different looks and feels.

Anyway, when it comes to Windows I prefer VLC for video and Foobar 2000 for my music. But I don't fall over and nearly die when I need to use iTunes for something....

WMP 12 on 7 is a hell of a lot faster than iTunes

And I think the integration has been explained before. You don't have to make every app look exactly the same. Office uses the new ribbon style because it works better. Windows Live has its own style, with parts using the ribbon. Zune has its metro style. With the exception of the Zune player, the other 2 still fit into 7 quite nicely.

iTunes on the other hand, looks like a mac application.

antsy said,
The CD would be out dated if iTunes did lossless downloads.
Why the **** would they do lossless downloads? Total waste of bandwidth and space.

Elliott said,
Why the **** would they do lossless downloads? Total waste of bandwidth and space.

There is a quality difference with lossless.

DarkNovaGamer said,

There is a quality difference with lossless.

Yeah but how many lossless songs would you be able to fit on a conventional iPod? Not many.

You know, I love my iPod and iTunes (the tunes part at least) works great with that and the store is easy to use and browse, but ffs, I just want my music. I don't want to buy videos to watch on a screen smaller than a credit card. I don't want to buy e-books. I don't want to buy textbooks. I don't want Apple or anyone else to suggest music for me. I don't own an iPhone (yet) so I don't need an app store. And I sure as hell don't want another damn social network, especially one integrated into my MP3 manager that I can't choose not to install.

If I wasn't so invested in the iPod eco-system, I'd dump it. Apple is really starting to **** me off with this stuff.

metal_dragen said,
You know, I love my iPod and iTunes (the tunes part at least) works great with that and the store is easy to use and browse, but ffs, I just want my music. I don't want to buy videos to watch on a screen smaller than a credit card. I don't want to buy e-books. I don't want to buy textbooks. I don't want Apple or anyone else to suggest music for me. I don't own an iPhone (yet) so I don't need an app store. And I sure as hell don't want another damn social network, especially one integrated into my MP3 manager that I can't choose not to install.

If I wasn't so invested in the iPod eco-system, I'd dump it. Apple is really starting to **** me off with this stuff.


Amen!

metal_dragen said,
You know, I love my iPod and iTunes (the tunes part at least) works great with that and the store is easy to use and browse, but ffs, I just want my music. I don't want to buy videos to watch on a screen smaller than a credit card. I don't want to buy e-books. I don't want to buy textbooks. I don't want Apple or anyone else to suggest music for me. I don't own an iPhone (yet) so I don't need an app store. And I sure as hell don't want another damn social network, especially one integrated into my MP3 manager that I can't choose not to install.

If I wasn't so invested in the iPod eco-system, I'd dump it. Apple is really starting to **** me off with this stuff.

+1 I like my iPods a lot, but I'm seriously considering taking the jump now. It's just gotten too ridiculous.

metal_dragen said,
You know, I love my iPod and iTunes (the tunes part at least) works great with that and the store is easy to use and browse, but ffs, I just want my music. I don't want to buy videos to watch on a screen smaller than a credit card. I don't want to buy e-books. I don't want to buy textbooks. I don't want Apple or anyone else to suggest music for me. I don't own an iPhone (yet) so I don't need an app store. And I sure as hell don't want another damn social network, especially one integrated into my MP3 manager that I can't choose not to install.

If I wasn't so invested in the iPod eco-system, I'd dump it. Apple is really starting to **** me off with this stuff.

You have pretty much covered how a lot of us has been feeling for a while now. iTunes has just turned into iComplicated.

Interesting new features, but really why are we still calling this program iTunes? Its no longer just a media manager.

I dislike the fact they've kept the 'iTunes' name, seeing as it handles more than just songs. I understand why they've kept it, but I don't think they would lose users if they changed the name because most people who use iTunes do so because their portable media player requires it.

You know what would be nice? Is a section for Music Videos. I don't like the fact that Music Videos get mixed in with my TV Shows and/or Movies. Oh well. Wishful thinking I guess.

nytiger73 said,
You know what would be nice? Is a section for Music Videos. I don't like the fact that Music Videos get mixed in with my TV Shows and/or Movies. Oh well. Wishful thinking I guess.

I like that suggestion.

Funny the old logo had a CD... and we all know, it was made for online digital format from the beginning... so why the CD?

aludanyi said,
Funny the old logo had a CD... and we all know, it was made for online digital format from the beginning... so why the CD?

When iTunes was new most people had music in CD format. It was popular for ripping and burning CD's

jamesyfx said,

When iTunes was new most people had music in CD format. It was popular for ripping and burning CD's

Thanks man for the really "useful" and creative answer , but I am not stupid (not even a little bit)... my point was: why a CD icon for a new piece of software when the CD (while still popular) was at the end_of_life point. I also find funny that most digital User Interfaces simulates the analogue world especially in smartphones. It is a backward way of thinking... not something I usually expect from Apple at least.

aludanyi said,
Thanks man for the really "useful" and creative answer , but I am not stupid (not even a little bit)...
Nobody's calling you stupid, there's no need for the attitude.
I also find funny that most digital User Interfaces simulates the analogue world especially in smartphones. It is a backward way of thinking...
Not really. Digital user interfaces simulating existing interfaces creates a sense of familiarity with users. It's better to have a friendly, familiar sight than a sterile new environment.

"iTunes 10 is available today, right here, to 160 million iTunes users in 23 countries." ---- Well ermm not just yet anyway...

Follow artists and friends. What if I don't want to? 'Too bad! We're bloating the bloat out of it so you can download it and have to reboot your operating system and have more services running!' Enjoy!

Michael King said,
No x64 release? What a crock!

who said so?...
Damn it!... i need a 64bits, the 32 one crashes a lot a my system

Bengal34 said,
Looks like they took some stuff from Windows Media Player and Zune. Anyone else notice this?

Yes and did you notice that iTunes still s**ks???

goldenlotus said,

Yes and did you notice that iTunes still s**ks???

I don't quite know how they do it, but performace wise it's absolutely terrible. It really shouldn't be any more resource heavy than WMP. Heck, zune with it's graphics settings all the way up runs better.

Bengal34 said,

I don't quite know how they do it, but performace wise it's absolutely terrible. It really shouldn't be any more resource heavy than WMP. Heck, zune with it's graphics settings all the way up runs better.


The Zune desktop software has been my default music player/manager for quite some time now. You are totally right about its performance. WMP 12 and VLC watch my six when it comes to playing videos...

Bengal34 said,

I don't quite know how they do it, but performace wise it's absolutely terrible. It really shouldn't be any more resource heavy than WMP. Heck, zune with it's graphics settings all the way up runs better.

I know. It's like they TRY to make it slow... I mean, WTH is it doing that it is THIS slow? Bizarre...

M_Lyons10 said,

I know. It's like they TRY to make it slow... I mean, WTH is it doing that it is THIS slow? Bizarre...

Maybe its an indirect way of telling... "Get a Mac"

aldago said,
Apple should relase a "lite" version of iTunes, it's becoming 100% bloatware

what exactly would the light version be? no cd buring? no playlists? not exactly a lot of extras on itunes that are not also on WMP and most other media players for that matter. The store can be disabled and unless you plug in a iDevice, nothing else is on there besides your music/videos...

ILikeTobacco said,

what exactly would the light version be? no cd buring? no playlists? not exactly a lot of extras on itunes that are not also on WMP and most other media players for that matter. The store can be disabled and unless you plug in a iDevice, nothing else is on there besides your music/videos...


Besides your music/videos. And then QuickTime. The Bonjour Service. "Genius". "Ping". High RAM use, and God knows how many other crap.

Victor V. said,

Besides your music/videos. And then QuickTime. The Bonjour Service. "Genius". "Ping". High RAM use, and God knows how many other crap.

Bonjour is only installed if you don't uncheck the checkbox when you install. "Genius" can be disabled. High ram use? It uses less than WMP on my system.

That leaves you with QuickTime and Ping. BTW QuickTime can be disabled if you are not using it. "God knows how many other crap" has been pretty well documented to not exist past what it says it installs. So Ping? Something nobody has any experience with yet but if it is anything like what we see on existing social media sites, it will be a nice feature to have for people purchasing online media. And considering it requires internet access, that can be disabled to through Windows 7/Vista's block/unblock settings.

That leaves you with nothing extra and you can only put blame on yourself for not knowing how to use/customize the software.

aldago said,
Apple should relase a "lite" version of iTunes, it's becoming 100% bloatware

Which is why I use the 'switchless' version of iTunes. No Bonjour service, no iTunesHelper or iPodService at startup, no Apple software updater and no MobileMe and the light version of Quicktime only required

mmyon said,
No it says "Itunes 10 coming soon, download itunes 9 now"

It's a shame really, because Steve Jobs said today in his presentation...

Ping? ....*Sigh*
Now I will now have to deal with further miscontext & miscommunication of valid technical terms.

Edyot Speak: "Let moi ping yoo sum more Dee-El-eM's, A.A.Sea's, M-Pee-Free's! I gotta sick wicked cool fart app sinked!"
Translation: "Please sir, allow me to content share demonstrations for your approval. I also have an application for projected flatulence installed, hilarity ensures."

Cheers Apple!

Panda X said,
They're stuffing iTunes with more stuff?

Of course! Bloaty McBloaterson!! What a piece of garbage. If it wasn't for my wife's iPod Touch, that detestable piece of software would never come near my PC.

devHead said,

Of course! Bloaty McBloaterson!! What a piece of garbage. If it wasn't for my wife's iPod Touch, that detestable piece of software would never come near my PC.

Yeah. I wish Apple would spend some time improving iTunes a bit and pairing it down. I used to like it a lot, but anymore it's gotten really out of control. And sloooooooow...

M_Lyons10 said,

Yeah. I wish Apple would spend some time improving iTunes a bit and pairing it down. I used to like it a lot, but anymore it's gotten really out of control. And sloooooooow...

The slowest thing here is actually the webpages in the whole iTunes Store.

rajputwarrior said,
that icon is ugly

Yeah, I agree. And it looks out of date for some reason. Like you expect it to be something from the 90's... I can't put my finger on it exactly. lol

roadwarrior said,

Yeah, and good luck finding anyone you know who has a Zune to connect with.

I have zune120.

You don't need the physical device to connect on the social.
Best thing about Zune social is it shows all of your windows live contacts.
So many of my xbox live friends had zunes that I didn't know.

My ears have been opened by the zune social, and my existing network of friends.

lordcanti86 said,
You can experience all of these "innovations" now: http://www.zune.net/

Welcome to the Social


Haha, I was thinking the same thing!
Way to go Apple, entirely original and revolutionary.
Also, they made the "traffic light" buttons vertical, OS inconsistency, yay!

Omega192 said,

Haha, I was thinking the same thing!
Way to go Apple, entirely original and revolutionary.
Also, they made the "traffic light" buttons vertical, OS inconsistency, yay!

HAHAHA +1

lordcanti86 said,
You can experience all of these "innovations" now: http://www.zune.net/

Welcome to the Social

Oh wait maybe I should go do that.. OH WAIT! Its only for you americans thats right. At least apple is releasing thier product to the world......

The Teej said,
Does 10 offer any decent performance upgrades on the Windows version?

Jobs didn't really mention anything in the keynote. I imagine it's much the same, now with more bloat.

The social stuff really is unstoppable. Everyone is doing it.

The Teej said,
Does 10 offer any decent performance upgrades on the Windows version?

Not sure yet, fingers crossed but i wouldn't get your hopes up.

The Teej said,
Does 10 offer any decent performance upgrades on the Windows version?

Screw windows how about better performance on osx?

Moving from windows and zune or media player to itunes on osx is painfully slow. Itunes on windows is a non standard nightmare of slow. Ms does a lot of work on things like office on osx to make it standard to the os and fast, apple doesn't seem to care how crappy their software works on windows.

thenetavenger said,
Screw windows how about better performance on osx?.

Performance on OSX is awesome. On Windows, it's hell.

thenetavenger said,

Screw windows how about better performance on osx?

Moving from windows and zune or media player to itunes on osx is painfully slow. Itunes on windows is a non standard nightmare of slow. Ms does a lot of work on things like office on osx to make it standard to the os and fast, apple doesn't seem to care how crappy their software works on windows.

Yep, I agree. It would be much appreciated if they could invest some time in improving the speed of iTunes, Apple makes horrible Windows software...

AWBrian said,

Performance on OSX is awesome. On Windows, it's hell.

It's not so bad on OS X, but there's room for improvement. 64-bit. Intel-only. Cocoa.

And about iTunes 9 for PowerPC? Well, at least give them the ability to get the new iPods and iPhones, but they don't need all the rest (Ping, small GUI changes, new icon (they can get this one though), etc.)

If Snow Leopard officially dropped support for PowerPC, I think everything else can follow.

azz0r_wugg said,
Download is still 9.1, anyone have a 10 link?

I think servers are overloaded. It was giving 9th version of iTunes to download and now it doesn't show anything at all. Wait several hours and try again or it should come via Software Update.

ccoltmanm said,
No one else is offended with the name Ping? Rip off of Bing.
A least Ping is a real, English word and has something to do with the service? It's a play on words: there's a "ping" sound and a there's "pinging" like in TCP/IP.

Elliott said,
A least Ping is a real, English word and has something to do with the service? It's a play on words: there's a "ping" sound and a there's "pinging" like in TCP/IP.

Bing is a real English word. It means 'to go', 'a heap' or 'pile' in British dialect. 'To go' seems more appropriate. Get your facts straight.

spenumatsa said,

Bing is a real English word. It means 'to go', 'a heap' or 'pile' in British dialect. 'To go' seems more appropriate. Get your facts straight.


Snap! You just got owned! XD

thenetavenger said,

Nope, especially being a feature copied from zune...

A what? I don't think we have those in Europe yet.

M_Lyons10 said,

Yeah, I don't like it either.

Oh I do. But I thought they would just make the music note bigger and remove the CD. This little orb around it, I don't know why it's there, really. Maybe the music note alone was ugly or something.

.Neo said,
When you think iTunes can't get any worse... I fully saw it happing though.

No iMap section so I can get directions to concert venues from within iTunes? WTF?

.Neo said,
When you think iTunes can't get any worse... I fully saw it happing though.

It just keeps getting better.

.Neo said,
When you think iTunes can't get any worse... I fully saw it happing though.

I hope it's Intel 64-bit Cocoa, and as refined and optimized as Snow Leopard though. I don't care much about the design and features now, it's more about the speed. Even on OS X it can get a lot better and less archaic.

PsykX said,

I hope it's Intel 64-bit Cocoa, and as refined and optimized as Snow Leopard though. I don't care much about the design and features now, it's more about the speed. Even on OS X it can get a lot better and less archaic.


True. At least I've seen a major upgrade in speed in the latest versions, though.