Kingston Achieves Unprecedented Memory Speeds with DDR3

Kinston Technology, a leading supplier of memory modules, demonstrated on Thursday its ability to overclock its HyperX DDR3 memory modules to unprecedented clock-speed with the help of a mainboard running Nvidia Corp.'s next-generation core-logic that supports DDR3 memory.

The memory module maker overclocked its HyperX PC3-16000 (KHX16000D2K2/2G) memory modules from their default clock-speed of 2.0GHz to 2.13GHz using a mainboard powered by yet unannounced Nvidia nForce 790i core-logic for Intel Corp.'s processors. At press time it was unclear which latency and voltage settings were set.

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I use to overclock.....back in the p2-p3 days, but hell, I'm too tired to screw with it anymore.
I've been using a P4 HT, 2.8 ghz for four years. Intel mobo, plain ole ddr ram, nvidia 7300GT.
Damn thing is stable as a top! The only "mods" are a water cooler that has been on it since day
one. (personally) I believe that is one of the reasons it is still running. I'm a semi-firm believer
that a stable CPU temperature is a good thing. The CPU gets hot under load, cools off under no
load. With a water cooler, my CPU temps rarely move + or - 15 degrees (F).
I do appreciate the over clockers out there, pushing the envelopes. Makes for interesting reading
what you can do when you push something.

I've always wondered what the benefits are of overclocking DRAM while increasing latencies. It seems that DRAM isn't really capable of "true" overclocking in that respect. Hypothetically speaking, if Kingston increased the latencies by 10% when upping the clock speed by 6%, that seems like it would result in less bandwidth overall. I've seen benchmarks confirming such cases. Much of the higher speed RAM these days increase latencies to a point where it nullifies the clock speed increases. Am I missing something, or is there a real-world benefit to DRAM clock increases that carry a latency penalty?

I think theres some benefit. Say you had a Mobo capable of a FSB of 500 but had a CPU currently at 400 and DDR2 800 (400x2). If you can get a stable performance from both the cpu and ram running them at 500Hz (in the case of ddr that'll be 500x2 so 1000 as opposed to the default 800) then it would allow you to run the cpu faster through an overclock of the ram. Sure, you may take a hit in ram latency but the added benefit of the cpu running considerably faster (given it would be 100Hz in this example multiplied by the CPU's multiplier...so probably verging on a 800Hz - 1Ghz gain) would probably outweight the loss in the ram latency.

I don't admittedly know alot about overclocking but I think thats one scenario where youd gain from losening the latency and increasing the clock. Don't know if those above numbers are necessarily accurate either but they are just for the example. Personally I'd just buy the faster ram from the get go and save myself the trouble.

there were indeed tests of high mhz at loose latencies vs low mhz at tight latencies... they said that in general , high mhz wins out but there were a few special 'theoretical' apps which benefited from tight timings

everything these days s.eems like an excuse for a flame war.

stop it!

re the article, seems interesting, lets wait for it to develop.

if you don't want to overclock something, then, by all means, don't do it. If you want, please go ahead.

stop flaming.

about the news: its great to see what DDR3 is capable right now, sadly the prices remain high and we all need new mobos for it.

thats the issue, price. These things are already WAY faster than most people really need. For mainstream DDR2 @800Mhz is fast enough and for most others I'm sure 1066Mhz will do. I cant even imagine that many enthusiast requiring ram of these speeds but then again, I don't deny its not good to have it there either.

But price is the issue and I'd personally like to see them concentrate on making the slower chips cheaper, or at least have a "value" line so that adoption of the new ram is more feasable and as soon as that happens it will drive prices down accross the board.

Really with the ram costing almost twice as much as DDR2 its not even a smart move to buy it for future proofing since by the time you do need if that 1 or 2GB dimm will likely be relatively small and the price gap over DDR2 too large.

I don't understand the hype of over-clocking everything..other than kids thinking its some big accomplishment in life. If you want a CPU with 2.5g speed or faster ram....duh!.....just have mom or dad buy one at that speed for you..why risk the burning up and possibility of damaging more hardware?..surely there is more to life that being able to add 'I'M LEET' in the title of a post....I see where companies jump on that bandwagon because it sells...just like kids are more adapt to purchase a hamburger that comes with a toy....LOL

You can learn a lot about how hardwares work when overclocking components. I think a lot of people do it because it's fun.

(jwjw1 said @ #4)
I don't understand the hype of over-clocking everything..other than kids thinking its some big accomplishment in life. If you want a CPU with 2.5g speed or faster ram....duh!.....just have mom or dad buy one at that speed for you..why risk the burning up and possibility of damaging more hardware?..surely there is more to life that being able to add 'I'M LEET' in the title of a post....I see where companies jump on that bandwagon because it sells...just like kids are more adapt to purchase a hamburger that comes with a toy....LOL


obviously a post from a child. Why pay $1,000 when my $200 cpu is faster? Lets go waste an extra $800 to have slower parts. Get a clue newb cake.

(Post-It Note said @ #4.1)
Why don't you tell us about some hobbies of yours, and we'll try our best to trivialize it.

LOL....I can understand it being a hobby for some...but the vast majority look at this as permanant fix and then later whine about 'blue screens' and 'over-heating'...Ram gone bad or Won't boot. If you can afford the hobby thats great..but how many explain to mom and dad the real reason why they need have them buy another CPU etc etc.

"Mom...I plugged the hair-dryer into 220v socket because I thought it would dry my hair faster but it melted it..."

Its people like you that ruin the world. If I didn't know anything about the subject I would probably believe you because your good at sounding like you know what your talking about. The truth is overclocking is easy and can save you hundreds of dollars. I was able to overclock a 78 dollar 1.6 ghz proc to 2.4 with a stock cooler I read with a good third party cooler I could get it to 3 easy. As for kids having their parents pay for parts they broke I think thats kinda the beauty of being a young computer nerd the best way to learn is by trial and error. Its people like you who shoot their mouth off and ruin it for them lol.

you dont get it do you? we look down on these blue screens and overheating that you talk about... its not an overclock if its not stable, its called making your mom and dad buy you a new cpu etc etc

(jwjw1 said @ #4)
If you want a CPU with 2.5g speed or faster ram....duh!.....just have mom or dad buy one at that speed for you
Find me a Core 2 Duo Processor that ships at about 4Ghz (or more). You underestimate how far these current processors can overclock on cheap air cooling. People arent taking these things from 2.2Ghz to 2.5, theyre doing ALOT more.

I have my eye on an upcomming Q9450 for instance which ships at 2.66GHz. It's widely regarded that this CPU should be able to get to 3.6GHz and if your Mobo can manage a FSB of 500Mhz, 4GHz should be possible. Thats far beyond anything Intel currently ships, especialy in the quad core field and it's a substantually cheaper CPU than the slightly faster Q9550 (which is at 2.8Ghz or so)

jwjw1's ignorance is almost as astounding as Bill Clinton's "well it depends on what your definition of is, is" defense.

Haha fair enough, but DDR3 seems cool: just clock your Penryn @ 4.26 GHz and run 2:1 timings. It's too bad that memory bandwidth isn't what slows our computars these days.