Lawyers target thousands of illegal file-sharers

ACS:Law said it will be sending thousands of letters to alleged file-sharers of copyright infringement. The lawsuits will go out in the New Year to thousands of suspected file-sharers, asking them for a compromise to avoid dealing with it in court, averaging for several thousand pounds as a settlement.

ACS:Law said each case will be different, based on the amount of illegal copyright material downloaded, ranging between several thousand pounds, but said the compromise will typically be between £300-500.

Jaclyn Clarabut, from Which?, told BBC News that, "A lot are accused of downloading pornography," while other cases will be based on illegally distributing movies, games, and music.

"Many have never heard of peer-to-peer file sharing," said Jaclyn Clarabut, in reference to the 15,000 suspected file-sharers.

ACS:Law recently acquired two high court orders to obtain 30,000 IP Addresses with account details, including their name and address of the account owner, and is in the process of preparing three more court orders.

However, the technology to hide or spoof an IP Address, disguising the users true IP Address, is available on the Internet, which could cause for many consumers to be false accused of file-sharing. Andrew Crossley from ACS:Law said that this does not apply for file sharing purposes.

There are also cases where consumers do not password protect their router, and makes it easy for near-by users to simply connect to their Internet connection and illegally download copyright material.

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People who pirate will make all sorts of excuses for their behavior, but it doesn't change that it is wrong and illegal.

It all comes down to a sense of entitlement. People who pirate usually say things like "I can't afford it", "It was priced too high", "It isn't high enough quality for me to buy". Then don't get it. If you can't or don't want to pay, you should not get the product. You are not entitled to anything.

Downloading from rs should be 100% safe unless your hacked by eg RIAA.

Rapidshare must be the biggest source of warez, it will be targeted after p2p becomes dud.

It was targeted before I thought? I think the compromise was that rapidshare have to delete any copyrighted material which is reported to them, but there is so much of it that it doesn't make a difference :P

greatestfall said,
i didn't know looking at porn was illegal..

Depends on the the type of pr0n you want to look at ... some of it is extremely illegal!

They never said the porn was illegal? If the porn is not released freely then the people downloading it are infringing copyright just like downloading movies.

Would i be right or wrong? in the uk it is illegal to upload not download, so using any form of p2p you might get busted because you are uploading? so what happens if your downloading a copyrighted file from a legal file host site like Rs etc?

You are right that is why they are after file sharers, torrents and other such p2p apps. In the UK it is currently not illegal to download copyrighted materials but only to share them

The issue here is the potential for 1) Pinning alleged offences on the innocent. 2) then treating them as guilty before fair trial.

It's not my fault I steal from others, its the greedy governments fault, its the greedy corporations fault, it can never be my fault. Darn I work hard to down load illegal stuff. Hell, who do they think they are taking away my right to steal from others it just isn't right.

Why should they come after me they are the ones who are in the wrong.

This isn't right people, the government is yet again slaving us to the corporations, just, it's like the hemp vs oil thing again, humanity is currently run by corporations, the stock market changes the law at will.

Before the government starts bringing out radical plans they should start some investigations, I haven't seen any good investigations done yet.

How are they gonna prove that somebody actually shared or downloaded something? Provide some kind of log files? I can create them in notepad and put there any IP I want. Question is can log file be considered as an evidence?

Good luck with that, how long did it take to finally shut down PirateBay? Someone should let these people know IPs change, most people have free accounts, and welcome to the internet its 2009.

vette said,
Good luck with that, how long did it take to finally shut down PirateBay? Someone should let these people know IPs change, most people have free accounts, and welcome to the internet its 2009.

TPB isn't shut down changed methods to make harder for this to occur or them to keep having retarded companies trying to close them down and wasting everyones time.

vette said,
Good luck with that, how long did it take to finally shut down PirateBay? Someone should let these people know IPs change, most people have free accounts, and welcome to the internet its 2009.

Thats completely irrelevant. If the case gets to court, then it's it doesn't matter one iota that you don't have a fixed IP address. Your ISP has records of which customer has which IP address at any point in time and the prosecution can get those records.

I'd quite happily refuse to pay anything and go to court! .. coz I'm almost certain the software they use to find your ISP address is illegal.

Good luck fighting that in court. Whether the software they use is legal or not it won't make your illegal downloads magically be lawful. But please, go argue that to a judge.

C_Guy said,
Good luck fighting that in court. Whether the software they use is legal or not it won't make your illegal downloads magically be lawful. But please, go argue that to a judge.


As far as I know, you can not use illegal means to produce evidence, under the risk of said evidence be considered invalid.

What does this mean - "Andrew Crossley from ACS:Law said that this does not apply for file sharing purposes" when talkin about hiding/spoofin IP addresses?

Does that mean they know if some is usin a fake ip and can find out their real one? or does it mean u cant actually use fake ips to file share?

chemaz101 said,
What does this mean - "Andrew Crossley from ACS:Law said that this does not apply for file sharing purposes" when talkin about hiding/spoofin IP addresses?

Does that mean they know if some is usin a fake ip and can find out their real one? or does it mean u cant actually use fake ips to file share?


Yes, Andrew Crossley was saying that even if people 'spoof' their IP these days, their ISP can still see exactly what they are downloading, and makes no difference to the software.

It's not really an excuse, it's a fact, also it's a little known fact that people just don't like buying software/games. I purchase things I really want but there aren't really any excuses for it, people just do what they want/like

Not really. This is just another whore lawyer who has decided to take the 30 pieces of silver the MAFIAA offers to people without scruples.