Leaked images allegedly show Motorola Droid 5

It's been a while since Motorola has released a new smartphone in its flagship Droid series. The last such phone was the Droid 4, which came out in early 2012. This weekend, someone using a Weibo account (the Chinese version of Twitter) has posted images of the alleged next version of the series, the Droid 5.

As you can see, the basic design of the Motorola Droid 5 hasn't changed a whole lot from its four predecessors. It still has its trademark slide-out QWERTY physical keyboard, although its buttons may have done away with the capacitive features from previous versions. The display looks to be between 4.3 and 4.5 inches, and the Weibo account leak claims it will have features like NFC, wireless charging and a case that's been made to resist water and dust better than other smartphones.

The case clearly shows the Verizon Wireless logo, which would seem to confirm that the Droid 5 will be sold at that wireless carrier, again just like previous versions. However, there's no other information on what hardware might be inside the device, nor when it will be released. Regardless, it does seem that Motorola is not yet ready to abandon its original QWERTY Droid design under its new owners at Google.

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Alistair Luckman said,
I don't care for physical keypads on mobile phones anymore.

Then why post in a comments section about a news article about a mobile phone with a physical keypad?

Because if he doesn't care for physical keypads on mobile phones anymore then no one else should be able to have one, duh! /s

Because I was interested in what the Driod 5 would look like? The slide out keyboard just makes the phone fatter than it needs to be.

Alistair Luckman said,
Because I was interested in what the Driod 5 would look like? The slide out keyboard just makes the phone fatter than it needs to be.

Understood.

And the "fatness" you get used to, its not that bothering. Reviews said that on my phone and to tell you the truth anything thiner just gives me the creeps that I am going to break it....

Depending on ROM development, Ill probably get this phone so have a look out on a review of this phone in the future

I have a Droid 4 and love it. I had the Droid 2 before it. I was told once I got used to touch I'd never use the keyboard but while I do use touch for Navigating the OS and small messages like tweets and texting I do 90% of my email now on my phone and find the keyboard invaluable for longer email messages. As mobile office applications continue to improve I'll likely shift more of that work to the phone too and typing word documents will almost certainly be easier with a physical keyboard. My contract isn't up until June but I hope there is a not too dated option such as this available to me then.

Asmodai said,
I have a Droid 4 and love it. I had the Droid 2 before it. I was told once I got used to touch I'd never use the keyboard but while I do use touch for Navigating the OS and small messages like tweets and texting I do 90% of my email now on my phone and find the keyboard invaluable for longer email messages. As mobile office applications continue to improve I'll likely shift more of that work to the phone too and typing word documents will almost certainly be easier with a physical keyboard. My contract isn't up until June but I hope there is a not too dated option such as this available to me then.

The problem is the Droid 4 didnt have much ROM development.

I don't think that's a problem for most people. The vast majority of users don't use alternate ROMs. I've been very happy with the official OS updates. I bought my phone with Gingerbread and it's running Jelly Bean now. The jump from OS versions 2.3.x to 4.1.x was non-trivial. That said it's old now and Key Lime Pie isn't out so it will likely not receive any further updates. Personally I'm fine with that, I expect my next phone to run Key Lime Pie not this one.

Asmodai said,
I don't think that's a problem for most people. The vast majority of users don't use alternate ROMs. I've been very happy with the official OS updates. I bought my phone with Gingerbread and it's running Jelly Bean now. The jump from OS versions 2.3.x to 4.1.x was non-trivial. That said it's old now and Key Lime Pie isn't out so it will likely not receive any further updates. Personally I'm fine with that, I expect my next phone to run Key Lime Pie not this one.
Again, I know 10 users that have flashed their phones. They arent even tech users. Their phone was slow, they wanted more, I told them how and they did it. It is not that hard or weird. And 4.1 IMO is not true Jelly Bean (a S2 I know was updated and now Bluetooth does not work) 4.2 is really Jelly Bean with bugs ironed out. Yet Motorola will never give you that 4.2 update.

Because you know 10 people that have done it doesn't mean a significant percentage of Android users do it. Do you seriously think it's over 50%? Over 20%? I don't have any statistics myself but I seriously doubt it's anywhere near even 10% of Android users.

As for what is or is not Jelly Bean I'm going to have to go with Google over you on that one. I'm a tech person and I've yet to install a ROM. I'll install a ROM when a new "named" version of Android comes out and my phone isn't going to support it. So far from my Droid 2 to Droid 4 that hasn't happened though because my 2 year contract has expired and I got a new phone before an unsupported upgrade came out. My Droid 2 went from Froyo to Gingerbread and my Droid 4 has gone from Gingerbread to Jelly Bean. I suspect I'll get a new phone before Key Lime Pie is out on non-nexus devices... if not though, THEN I'll try installing a ROM to get it on my D4 but I doubt it will come to that.

Asmodai said,
Because you know 10 people that have done it doesn't mean a significant percentage of Android users do it. Do you seriously think it's over 50%? Over 20%? I don't have any statistics myself but I seriously doubt it's anywhere near even 10% of Android users.

As for what is or is not Jelly Bean I'm going to have to go with Google over you on that one. I'm a tech person and I've yet to install a ROM. I'll install a ROM when a new "named" version of Android comes out and my phone isn't going to support it. So far from my Droid 2 to Droid 4 that hasn't happened though because my 2 year contract has expired and I got a new phone before an unsupported upgrade came out. My Droid 2 went from Froyo to Gingerbread and my Droid 4 has gone from Gingerbread to Jelly Bean. I suspect I'll get a new phone before Key Lime Pie is out on non-nexus devices... if not though, THEN I'll try installing a ROM to get it on my D4 but I doubt it will come to that.


Because you know 0 people (from what I see) does that mean that most people do not flash their phones?

I would say at it is less than 50% and more than 20%. Remember that there a lot of Android devices out there.

And you consider going from Froyo to Gingerbread a big jump and thats ALL Motorola should give you? Now I KNOW you are not a "tech user"

iOS lovers love to comment about fragmentation which IMO does not exist and is solely up to the carriers. But attitudes like going from Froyo to Gingerbread is enough doenst help either.
No offense but I dont think you are too much of a "tech person" if you stayed with the vanilla version of Android of your phone instead of ASOP or Cyanogenmod or etc. Any version is better than the stock ROM (even a ROM based on stock)

ilovetonetwork said,

Because you know 0 people (from what I see) does that mean that most people do not flash their phones?

I know people who have installed mods but they are tech geeks not the norm and as I said I seriously doubt the overall percentage is anywhere near 10%. It would be interesting to see the results of some study on that.
ilovetonetwork said,

And you consider going from Froyo to Gingerbread a big jump and thats ALL Motorola should give you? Now I KNOW you are not a "tech user"

I didn't say the move from Froyo to Gingerbread was a big jump. Stop creating straw men. I just said that is what my Droid 2 made that switch. It went from Froyo when it was released in Aug 2010 till I replaced it in April of 2012 with my Droid 4. I did say the jump from Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich was a huge one so I didn't really expect a 2.x device that launched before Honeycomb even to make that jump. My Droid 4 launched with Gingerbread which was a bit behind as ICS was out at the time but Motorola updated it past ICS to Jelly Bean which is still the current "named" OS version right now. The Droid 4 launched in Feb of 2012 and I expect them to keep them up to date for 2 years as that's the contract length here in the US. So if Key Lime Pie comes out before Feb. then I'd expect them to update it to that but if it comes out after then no I don't. At that point if I don't buy a new phone anyway I will go to the mod community and try to get Key Lime Pie but I bet KLP won't come out before then and in 4 more months my contract will be up and I'll get a new phone anyway.

As for if you think I'm a "tech person" or not I don't really care. I know I am because I've worked professionally as both a network administrator and now systems programmer. I don't just play video games and screw around with linux in my spare time and call myself a tech person. I can build/repair program and network a PC and have been paid to do so professionally for over a decade. If installing a mod on your cell phone is all it takes to make someone a tech person then your bar is far lower than mine. I CAN install mods, I CHOOSE not to. Isn't that what Android is all about, choice?

Asmodai said,

I know people who have installed mods but they are tech geeks not the norm and as I said I seriously doubt the overall percentage is anywhere near 10%. It would be interesting to see the results of some study on that.

I didn't say the move from Froyo to Gingerbread was a big jump. Stop creating straw men. I just said that is what my Droid 2 made that switch. It went from Froyo when it was released in Aug 2010 till I replaced it in April of 2012 with my Droid 4. I did say the jump from Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich was a huge one so I didn't really expect a 2.x device that launched before Honeycomb even to make that jump. My Droid 4 launched with Gingerbread which was a bit behind as ICS was out at the time but Motorola updated it past ICS to Jelly Bean which is still the current "named" OS version right now. The Droid 4 launched in Feb of 2012 and I expect them to keep them up to date for 2 years as that's the contract length here in the US. So if Key Lime Pie comes out before Feb. then I'd expect them to update it to that but if it comes out after then no I don't. At that point if I don't buy a new phone anyway I will go to the mod community and try to get Key Lime Pie but I bet KLP won't come out before then and in 4 more months my contract will be up and I'll get a new phone anyway.

As for if you think I'm a "tech person" or not I don't really care. I know I am because I've worked professionally as both a network administrator and now systems programmer. I don't just play video games and screw around with linux in my spare time and call myself a tech person. I can build/repair program and network a PC and have been paid to do so professionally for over a decade. If installing a mod on your cell phone is all it takes to make someone a tech person then your bar is far lower than mine. I CAN install mods, I CHOOSE not to. Isn't that what Android is all about, choice?


I believe there was a old study about how many ROMs were installed. And again: There are millions of Android devices out there. 10%? IMO I believe there are more. I have no proof of that but then again neither do yo.

In your words, you stated that your droid 2 went from a to b and then stated your droid 4 went from b to d. The way you wrote it I understood it as you saw both phones making huge jumps....

Honeycomb isnt actually a "legal" version of Android because Android is released under the Apache Licence which states that all software released under it is free for modification but Android never AFAIK released the source code. If it finally did, I apoligize.

I dont understand this "Ill just get a new phone" Why? That makes no sense at all. The phone Im typing on right now started at 2.2 and went only to 2.3 and Im running 4.3 So lets say your PC has a 500 GB HDD. The operating system you had requires 400 GB A new operating system comes out but it requires 600 GB HDD and a 1TB HDD only cost 30$; You would just buy a new PC worth thousands with a 600GB + HDD? A system programmer (technically the term is system administrator but lets not get picky on that) is also suppose to work with the IT budget he has. Sounds to me like you dont really get 100% out of the equipment you have.

And yes, Android is about choice. The choice to have a old device stay old or to bring all the potential out of your device using open source code, tools and information. But hey, you know you are a "tech person"...

ilovetonetwork said,


Honeycomb isnt actually a "legal" version of Android because Android is released under the Apache Licence which states that all software released under it is free for modification but Android never AFAIK released the source code. If it finally did, I apoligize.


For clearification purposes, Google was finally forced to release the source code.

ilovetonetwork said,
In your words, you stated that your droid 2 went from a to b and then stated your droid 4 went from b to d. The way you wrote it I understood it as you saw both phones making huge jumps....

Then you misunderstood me. Consider yourself corrected.
ilovetonetwork said,

I dont understand this "Ill just get a new phone" Why? That makes no sense at all.

Because cell phone technology is going through a boom right now and there is significant increases in tech in 2 years time. I don't just get every new device, that's why I went from a Droid 2 to a Droid 4 and skipped the Droid 3. There are a lot of meaningful upgrades from Droid 2 to 4. Furthermore the way the contracts work in the US your phone is subsidized by your monthly fee. When your contract is up they don't lower your monthly fee so if you don't get a new phone you are paying the subsidy for nothing. If I'm going to have to pay the subsidy anyway I may as well get something for it and grab a new phone.
ilovetonetwork said,
The phone Im typing on right now started at 2.2 and went only to 2.3 and Im running 4.3 So lets say your PC has a 500 GB HDD. The operating system you had requires 400 GB A new operating system comes out but it requires 600 GB HDD and a 1TB HDD only cost 30$; You would just buy a new PC worth thousands with a 600GB + HDD?

No I wouldn't. I don't buy new phones just for the OS, that would be silly. I buy the new phones for the upgraded hardware and a new OS just happens to come with it. Again there is a HUGE hardware difference between the Droid 2 and Droid 4. Comparing the rapidly advancing smartphone market with the current PC market is also invalid as the PC market is mature thus not advancing at anywhere near the same rate.
ilovetonetwork said,
A system programmer (technically the term is system administrator but lets not get picky on that)

No, it's not. I used to be a network/system administrator at a small company but now I'm a programmer at a defense contractor (my contract specifically lists it as "Systems Programmer"). They are not the same thing at all. One deals with networks and doesn't need to know how to program at all (scripting ability can be a huge asset though) and the other writes software/programs. I was did networks for 5 years then switched to software development which I've done professionally now for over 10 years. That's just professionally, not counting what I did in school and for fun before I got an IT job.

Asmodai said,

Then you misunderstood me. Consider yourself corrected.

Because cell phone technology is going through a boom right now and there is significant increases in tech in 2 years time. I don't just get every new device, that's why I went from a Droid 2 to a Droid 4 and skipped the Droid 3. There are a lot of meaningful upgrades from Droid 2 to 4. Furthermore the way the contracts work in the US your phone is subsidized by your monthly fee. When your contract is up they don't lower your monthly fee so if you don't get a new phone you are paying the subsidy for nothing. If I'm going to have to pay the subsidy anyway I may as well get something for it and grab a new phone.

No I wouldn't. I don't buy new phones just for the OS, that would be silly. I buy the new phones for the upgraded hardware and a new OS just happens to come with it. Again there is a HUGE hardware difference between the Droid 2 and Droid 4. Comparing the rapidly advancing smartphone market with the current PC market is also invalid as the PC market is mature thus not advancing at anywhere near the same rate.

No, it's not. I used to be a network/system administrator at a small company but now I'm a programmer at a defense contractor (my contract specifically lists it as "Systems Programmer"). They are not the same thing at all. One deals with networks and doesn't need to know how to program at all (scripting ability can be a huge asset though) and the other writes software/programs. I was did networks for 5 years then switched to software development which I've done professionally now for over 10 years. That's just professionally, not counting what I did in school and for fun before I got an IT job.


Yes, I misunderstood you.

Cell phone technology is going thru a boom? Incorrect. Low powered SoC is going thru a boom right now. Cell phone technology is pretty much a stand still except features such as NFC and wireless charging (Qi) which really isnt taking off in the western world.

Yes but AFAIK they dont lower/raise your monthly fee but they still charge you for a new phone where your phone and perfectly do the same thing. And yes, your Droid 2 can do the same things as the Droid 4. My phones was almost released 3 years ago and it can do the same things as a latest Nexus, just as smooth and quick. Why? Because the ROM I have is optimized for the phone I have.

Better (note better, not faster) processor, more RAM, and 1080 recording (pretty much all the better hardware you can get in a phone) is nice but WP has shown you that a quad core is not neccesary in Android.....using a optimized ROM.

I actually looked up your job title (as it sounded old) and basically you are the same thing as a system administrator. A system administrator should be able to write his own scripts for clients to seamlessly integrate his clients into AD into (for example) automatically mounting network drives at login. Historically, system programmers wrote custom code for mainframes and such. Unless you are working in a company with really old hardware, you are a system admin.

ilovetonetwork said,

Cell phone technology is going thru a boom? Incorrect. Low powered SoC is going thru a boom right now.

Low powered SoC being one component of a cell phone. I don't know what you consider to be cell phone technology then.
ilovetonetwork said,
Yes but AFAIK they dont lower/raise your monthly fee but they still charge you for a new phone where your phone and perfectly do the same thing.

Not necessarily. You can get "free" phones for renewing your contract you just have to pay more for better phones. Even top end phones typically cost only around $200 for a phone that's worth around $600. Why? Because over the course of your 2 year contract you are paying the other $400 in subsidies in your monthly bill. That is why they can give free phones (if they're less than $400 phones) and if you do NOT upgrade then you are throwing that $400 away because it is still in your monthly bill even if you don't resign a contract.
ilovetonetwork said,

And yes, your Droid 2 can do the same things as the Droid 4.

No, it can't. No ROM is going to get my Droid 2 on Verizons LTE network. Going from the Droid 2 to the Droid 4 got me off of Verizon's crappy CDMA network (I was on AT&T before the Droid 2 but switched to get an Android phone... I was not happy with CDMA) and onto their very nice LTE one. Fortunately where I live got LTE pretty early so I've had LTE since day 1 on my Droid 4. I also actually use the micro-HDMI slot that the Droid 4 has and the 2 does not as well as the front facing camera. No ROM will add those things for me.
ilovetonetwork said,

I actually looked up your job title (as it sounded old) and basically you are the same thing as a system administrator. A system administrator should be able to write his own scripts for clients to seamlessly integrate his clients into AD into (for example) automatically mounting network drives at login. Historically, system programmers wrote custom code for mainframes and such. Unless you are working in a company with really old hardware, you are a system admin.

No I'm not. I write programs in Visual Studio for the U.S. Navy. I do nothing at all with AD or scripting or mounting network drives or anything network related at all other then the front-end software I write communicating with the Oracle servers. I did admin work at my prior job but that was over a decade ago and now I'm a programmer. I don't know where you're looking it up but my contract with clearly states "Systems Programmer" so you can go tell the company I work for that my title is wrong, I didn't make it up and quite frankly they can call me "computer dweeb" if they want as long as they keep signing my paycheck. You googling a title doesn't mean anything, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Asmodai said,

Low powered SoC being one component of a cell phone. I don't know what you consider to be cell phone technology then.

Not necessarily. You can get "free" phones for renewing your contract you just have to pay more for better phones. Even top end phones typically cost only around $200 for a phone that's worth around $600. Why? Because over the course of your 2 year contract you are paying the other $400 in subsidies in your monthly bill. That is why they can give free phones (if they're less than $400 phones) and if you do NOT upgrade then you are throwing that $400 away because it is still in your monthly bill even if you don't resign a contract.

No, it can't. No ROM is going to get my Droid 2 on Verizons LTE network. Going from the Droid 2 to the Droid 4 got me off of Verizon's crappy CDMA network (I was on AT&T before the Droid 2 but switched to get an Android phone... I was not happy with CDMA) and onto their very nice LTE one. Fortunately where I live got LTE pretty early so I've had LTE since day 1 on my Droid 4. I also actually use the micro-HDMI slot that the Droid 4 has and the 2 does not as well as the front facing camera. No ROM will add those things for me.

No I'm not. I write programs in Visual Studio for the U.S. Navy. I do nothing at all with AD or scripting or mounting network drives or anything network related at all other then the front-end software I write communicating with the Oracle servers. I did admin work at my prior job but that was over a decade ago and now I'm a programmer. I don't know where you're looking it up but my contract with clearly states "Systems Programmer" so you can go tell the company I work for that my title is wrong, I didn't make it up and quite frankly they can call me "computer dweeb" if they want as long as they keep signing my paycheck. You googling a title doesn't mean anything, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.


Cell phone technology that has not improved: Battery, coverage, build material, etc. We can go on but these 2 first I think are very important.

Free phones? I can actually call my company, threathen them that I am going to leave, and they will give me a free phone. Its not a big deal. Now paying for a phone every, lets say 2-3 years and min $200 is not a pretty good deal. I paid a bit over $300 for mine.

You state 3 features and only 3: LTE, miniHDMI port and a front face camera. LTE coverage is.....i cant even find a word to say how bad it is but lets say you have great coverage. microHDMI port, I dont know about you but I dont drag around a cable, plug into different TVs (at different locations might I add) and show off media. And the front face camera: This was a anti iPhone critic for the longest time. But im still the same on that: Noone uses that to have a real conversation. Perfect proof is FaceTime by Apple. Even Skype has had better voice calling than video calling reputation. And i doubt you are a 16 year old girl that likes to take pictures of herself. But lets say you are and do all this: Is that really worth $200? Out of all those features you mentioned, when I got this phone, the most i thought i was going to miss is front face camera. Now having this conversation with you, I think about it and there isnt a second Ive missed it much less needed it.

Oh and BTW, thanks to a ROM, one of the Nexus releases got their LTE radio band enabled because Google/Asus disabled it to keep costs down. But no, a ROM cannot unlock hardware features disabled by vendor, no.....

By your simple description (Im sure its a lot more complicated and you have bigger tasks) you are a programmer. Plain and simple. You also say it yourself and you are a programmer. A systems programmer does not exist in the modern era.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_programming
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/...frame/zconc_sysprogrole.htm

I understand you want to ignore wikipedia but IBM? And countless other sources if you put in System Programmer

As a protip, some time ago, I had the title in my job contract incorrectly stated. I told them that they fix it or I would not resign a new contract. They did but little did I know that because of the title change of my job, I had a whole new min wage and they were forced to apply it (I was paid a lot more, so they kinda got ****ed at me). But im still here at my job.

On that note, feel free to reply. I will no longer read or reply as this is a waste of my time.

I have used a capacitive touchscreen phone with a couple of soft keyboards and and an old slow Nokia linux phone at the same time, and i can tell you that i would still love a good landscape physical keyboard on a decent Android phone.


lmaobox said,

A lot of geeks.


I know at least 10 people who have nothing to do with geeks and have their phones flashed because they know they can get better performance out of their phone.

I used the N95-97. They were all really impressive for their time. N97 had a brilliant keyboard which made my texting so much faster. Also Symbian actually had a lot of features that neither Android or iOS had at the time.

drazgoosh said,
I used the N95-97. They were all really impressive for their time. N97 had a brilliant keyboard which made my texting so much faster. Also Symbian actually had a lot of features that neither Android or iOS had at the time.
I know, I've had pretty much every Symbian Nokia smartphone except the N97 It never came to my provider but seeing as the N8 did, I wasn't going to complain.

vcfan said,
2008 called, they want their phones back.

Same thing could be said to the Surface.
I want physical keyboard on my Lumia. What's wrong with that?

my wife loves the keyboard, doesn't even want a phone without one... i think it's ok, but i do prefer swype over it. it'll probably have both, any phone without swype is just a piece of junk!

CanonCygnus said,

Same thing could be said to the Surface.
I want physical keyboard on my Lumia. What's wrong with that?


Don't see how. Surface wasn't a phone.

vcfan said,
2008 called, they want their phones back.

2000 called, they want their comments back.

Seriously...we all know you do not like Android. Give it a rest already.

Edited by techbeck, Aug 26 2013, 3:46am :

SharpGreen said,

Don't see how. Surface wasn't a phone.

But it is a tablet. Thus it is a mobile device. You're supposed to touch with a mobile device, right?

vcfan said,
2008 called, they want their phones back.

While personally I am not, there are a lot of people who would prefer a device with a physical keyboard.

for obvious reasons.. writing blind.. faster with two thumbs..the screen can actually be seen and is not covered by half the keyboard...ctrl key commands

-adrian- said,
for obvious reasons.. writing blind.. faster with two thumbs..the screen can actually be seen and is not covered by half the keyboard...ctrl key commands

Complete truth.

I hate that the screen is half (or at times fully) covered by a ****ty onscreen software slow keyboard.

CanonCygnus said,

But it is a tablet. Thus it is a mobile device. You're supposed to touch with a mobile device, right?


Surface (especially the Pro version) seems more like a touch-enabled laptop IMO, which is why I said that.

Buttus said,
my wife loves the keyboard, doesn't even want a phone without one... i think it's ok, but i do prefer swype over it. it'll probably have both, any phone without swype is just a piece of junk!
iPhone's?