Leaked Nokia 'Bandit' screenshot shows Windows Phone for large screens

An alleged screenshot of Nokia's upcoming 6-inch device shows the expanded Start screen Microsoft has made for large smartphones running Windows Phone, with two extra columns for tiles.

The @evleaks Twitter account posted the screenshot early Tuesday, just following news that Microsoft will purchase Nokia's smartphone division. Nokia's large-screen Windows Phone device is reportedly codenamed "Bandit," though @evleaks previously reported it will be called the Lumia 1520 upon release.

A leaked photo of the Lumia 1520 which surfaced last week showed the same set of additional columns to the traditional Windows Phone Start screen. Current Windows Phone devices feature space for four columns of the smallest tiles available; the Start screen on the Lumia 1520 features a total of six columns of the smallest tiles available.

The Lumia 1520 is expected to include a Qualcomm 800 Snapdragon processor, 1080p display and 20-megapixel rear-facing camera. Nokia will reportedly reveal the phone at a press conference in New York on Sept. 26, possibly alongside the company's upcoming Windows RT tablet.

Source: @evleaks

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Im already mentally arranging a home screen in my head. I'd like to see a 3-column horizontal tile option as well as double-height one. I like the current sizes, but wouldn't mind a few more.

And, while WP is customizable, its with set rules. My brother can't imagine why I love it so much, since he can get a WP like UI, with more bells and whistles on Android. I'd argue that's full customization - being able to replace everything - but that's not what I want anymore. I just want a stock OS I'm happy with.

So much screen potential... I understand Windows Phone 8 is about simplicity and through that functionality but this seems to defeat the purpose. The screen is way too crowded to catch everything these tiles are saying. You can't simply swipe past them to take it all in, like you can on a regular sized screen.

It seems to me Windows 8 became what it is for a reason. I hope Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 move closer together over time. For Windows Phone this could mean adding categories and 'breaks' between tile-sets. In the case of Windows Phone this would be a horizontal break. That way you can easier check a selection of lives tiles.

Also with so many tiles the one color style isn't working. Hopefully Microsoft will add the option to chose between mono-colored or multi-colored style (like Windows 8). Both have their own charms and they should let the people choose.

Woah - it works differently from the smartfone I have - therefore clearly WRONG as <insert non-WP8 OS name> is the epitome of UI rightness.

...but for the clued-in, more WP8 home-screen is just 'good' more.

Dear iPhone and Android users: please stop repeating the same false statements every time you see a WP article, and take the 10 minutes to actually learn how the WP UI is fully customizable. Thank you, that is all for now.

I think the point of the screencap was to show the 1080 resolution and the abundance of tiles is to get that point across. I own a Lumia 920 and am a big fan of the interface, but yes that particular screenshot is far too cluttered. I'd love to see some simple, subtle animated backgrounds included like Windows 8.1 here.

They are killing Metro. Metro originally developed on the basis of typography and open space. I can NOT see any open space or Typography in the screenshot. Its a mess. I hope its not true.

It is like Windows 95 was at the time: some people had hundreds of icons on the desktop, others few, I had five ones only. It is customizable so no big deal.
Said that I agree that for advertising purposes the portrayed one is a poor choice.

I thought WP8 was going to look cluttered with the resizable tiles. I was wrong. This looks cluttered too, but I'm guess I'd have the same experience (If I wanted a phone that huge)

Exactly, if thats how customers see it, the reactions are going to be worse than what we are seeing on here.
What the really need to do now as add the option for spacers, and grouping text similar to Windows 8.1.

Is it that cluttered by default? I know it's customizable, but the default look is what customers see in the store, and if they see that mess, I can see them being frightened off it...

I don't get how you refer to that as "cluttered," maybe you need to get used to tons of information being thrown at your face or you won't evolve to the next generation, I guess.

I'm a programmer by trade, specialising in UI design. That home screen is fricking mess and completely counter to Microsoft's credo of simplification; the whole point behind the MetroUI concept. That's a confusing mess.

Try reading their design guidelines at some point. That screenshot breaks just about every single one.

All of you miss the bell and the single Tiles for PowerPoint, Word and Excel (and maybe other thing like Friend (not People), storyteller and ToDoList)

OberstDanjeje said,
All of you miss the bell and the single Tiles for PowerPoint, Word and Excel (and maybe other thing like Friend (not People), storyteller and ToDoList)

The icons for Word & Powerpoint and OneNote look exactly the same like they do now. Try it : pin a document or whatever to the start screen and make it a small tile.
The only one that's different is the Excel icon.

The Bell is probably the sound profile (ring + vibrate?) , Friends is just a group of people pinned to the Start Screen. ToDoList I'm pretty sure is an app.

Now Storyteller, that's the interesting bit.

Sszecret said,

The icons for Word & Powerpoint and OneNote look exactly the same like they do now. Try it : pin a document or whatever to the start screen and make it a small tile.
The only one that's different is the Excel icon.

The Bell is probably the sound profile (ring + vibrate?) , Friends is just a group of people pinned to the Start Screen. ToDoList I'm pretty sure is an app.

Now Storyteller, that's the interesting bit.


You are right!!
Never pinned a Office document.
Anyway the Bell is something new and the Storyteller could be something new too

Does anyone know what that "Storyteller" thing is? (the wide tile, second row, on the left). Haven't seen that before.

Not impressed. Looks far too cluttered. That said, spec-wise the phone could be a decent competitor to the HTC One Max and the Samsung Galaxy Note 3. The problem is that Windows Phone is still a limitation rather than an asset.

Windows Phone is about the individual user and this particular user likes it this way no two windows phones are alike each one tells the story and shows the style of it's user

theyarecomingforyou said,
Not impressed. Looks far too cluttered. That said, spec-wise the phone could be a decent competitor to the HTC One Max and the Samsung Galaxy Note 3. The problem is that Windows Phone is still a limitation rather than an asset.

Another limiting comment from an Android or iPhone user that hasn't had any WP experience.

Just love how many arm chair critics there are here sometimes.

Posted from my iPhone.

mrmomoman said,
Another limiting comment from an Android or iPhone user that hasn't had any WP experience.

Just love how many arm chair critics there are here sometimes.

I have looked at enough reviews, seen enough videos and read enough user comments to form an opinion on the matter.

I am looking to buy a new phone and have been researching various handsets, including Windows Phone devices, but they just don't appeal to me. People form opinions and my opinion towards Windows Phone is not favourable and most of those I talk to feel the same way.

Devmer11 said,
Windows Phone is about the individual user and this particular user likes it this way no two windows phones are alike each one tells the story and shows the style of it's user

you mean like android, but without a chance to change the tile interface?

theyarecomingforyou said,

I have looked at enough reviews, seen enough videos and read enough user comments to form an opinion on the matter.

I am looking to buy a new phone and have been researching various handsets, including Windows Phone devices, but they just don't appeal to me. People form opinions and my opinion towards Windows Phone is not favourable and most of those I talk to feel the same way.


Use your head, talk to someone who likes their windows phone (or look up one of many examples online) to figure out what it is they like about it. As has been stated here several times, you can just make all the tiles larger if you want, then there is no clutter. There isn't a problem here that isn't very easily solvable.

james.faction said,
Use your head, talk to someone who likes their windows phone (or look up one of many examples online) to figure out what it is they like about it.

I have. One of my friends uses Windows Phone and really like it, so I've talked to them about it.

james.faction said,
As has been stated here several times, you can just make all the tiles larger if you want, then there is no clutter. There isn't a problem here that isn't very easily solvable.

I'm using Windows 8.1, so I'm already familiar with how the tiles work. My comment was simply that the screen pictured looks very cluttered, something other people seem to agree with.

I'll be waiting to see reviews of the device before making any final judgement on it, as spec-wise it looks to put Windows Phone back in competition with Android.

theyarecomingforyou said,
I'm using Windows 8.1, so I'm already familiar with how the tiles work. My comment was simply that the screen pictured looks very cluttered, something other people seem to agree with.

And it has been said that this is the choice of the user, and that it's easily changed if you don't like it...

If you are saying it's not a good picture for promo purposes (it's not clear that it is), then I agree as an advertisement for the phone it does look a bit much.

theyarecomingforyou said,
I'll be waiting to see reviews of the device before making any final judgement on it, as spec-wise it looks to put Windows Phone back in competition with Android.

Windows phone is already very much in competition with Android. The thing about the WP OS is that it's not nearly as heavy on system resources as Android - or iOS for that matter. So a lower spec Windows Phone tends to perform better at almost everything than one of the other platforms.

Specs aren't nearly as important as you think... except for perhaps real-world practical specs like screen size and resolution, amount of storage, how long the battery lasts.

margrave said,
I hate how busy winphone looks. It's just a jumbled mess.

may be you need to read above comments before just posting without knowing what you are talking

margrave said,
I hate how busy winphone looks. It's just a jumbled mess.

As many have stated here already. It's only as jumbled or clean as you make it.

At least on windows phone doesn't come with bloatware. Most android devices at first boot are a cluttered mess with useless bloatware installed and pinned to the screen.

pretty much takes out the sony "honami" then which failed to challenge the lumia 1020 but had a larger screen and faster cpu to boast. that is now over, and if this camera is really 20mp, we know it will easily match the sony.

Too much clutter if you ask me, leave it with 4 columns instead. Or just increase the space between the icons.

wv@gt said,
Too much clutter if you ask me, leave it with 4 columns instead. Or just increase the space between the icons.

lol. you don't own WP right?

nitins60 said,

lol. you don't own WP right?

I have the Lumia 810, mine also has a lower res than the rest, so I might just be used to that.

wv@gt said,

I have the Lumia 810, mine also has a lower res than the rest, so I might just be used to that.

then you can re arrange like you want or you can even leave last row empty or you can use bigger tiles or beautifully arrange them like you feel or you can stay with 720p phones

Everything is too close together for my liking and I can't change the spacing between icons, can I? (Legit question, not being sarcy). It's the only problem I have with the way WP8 looks, all the icons being square and hardly any background being shown makes it look really squished together.

Agreed. I don't think this is a sweet spot for the Metro UI. 5" max, then 7" mini Tab. This 6 inch phone, I don't know if it's going to work. It could though. The example in the article is a bad one.

Unless MS will include the large vertical rectangular tile like the one they've introduce with Windows 8.1. Definitely need some spacing too.

neonspark said,

then customize it to your liking...the point.

Agreed. In my opinion, it is way too busy as well, but MY phone would never look like that. lol

JesperJensen said,
You can change the spacing between icons No custom background to fill out the space though..

That's not so bad then, I don't really mind not having a custom background, just more black showing between tiles would do me fine, thanks for clearing that up

ThunderBuddy said,
There's way too much going on to really focus on anything.

That's exactly what I thought. Shows the glaring shortcoming of that UI design.

You never actually used Windows Phone then. I think you should try it before complaining about a screenshot. You can change tile sizes.

wingliston said,
You never actually used Windows Phone then. I think you should try it before complaining about a screenshot. You can change tile sizes.

I have used Windows Phone, my friend has a Lumia 810 and I know you can change tile sizes but as I said above I didn't know you could change the spacing between tiles which is what makes things look cluttered to me.

ThunderBuddy said,
Everything is too close together for my liking and I can't change the spacing between icons, can I? (Legit question, not being sarcy). It's the only problem I have with the way WP8 looks, all the icons being square and hardly any background being shown makes it look really squished together.

If it's too busy for you, use more large-sized tiles. There is a larger size than any of the tiles shown here - double width and double height of the "medium" size tile. Problem solved.

You say it's too busy, there's too much going on...

I say there's everything I need to know and access at a quick glance or thumb tap...

Tomato... Tomato.