Leaked survey spills the goods on Windows Phone 7.8

Microsoft has already stated that it will launch its promised Windows Phone 7.8 update for older Windows Phone 7.5 devices sometime in early 2013. Some of the phones that will receive this update will be Nokia's Windows Phone 7.5 smartphones such as the Lumia 900.

Now, a newly leaked image that reportedly comes from a Nokia online customer survey shows what Nokia Lumia owners can expect when Windows Phone 7.8 is released. The image, posted on WMPoweruser.com, confirms that it will include the new Start screen with resizable Live tiles, the new Bing wallpaper lock screen and more on Microsoft's end of the update.

The older Nokia Lumia phones will also get some new features that have previously been put into Nokia's new Windows Phone 8 products. They include Cinemagraph, which add limited animation to still photos, along with camera lenses where people can remove unwanted elements from a photo quickly.

Other new additions listed on the survey include sharing DRM-free media files via Bluetooth, a way to make ring tones and updated Contacts Transfer and Share apps. Again, these will be exclusive new additions for Nokia's Windows Phone 7.5 phones and will not be a part of Microsoft's overall 7.8 update that will be offered for devices made by other companies.

Source: WMPoweruser.com | Image via WMPoweruser.com

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I don't understand why a new lock screen and start menu can take MSFT a whole year to make. Either they are really bad at what they do, or they just don't care...or both.

as a WP user, I'm seriously disappointed in MSFT.

My guess is that Nokia were given in part, the task of pushing 7.8 in development. Since they have a number of updates and are really the only handsets that are getting the extra features AND the fact they (only them) have a contract with Microsoft to change the UI of the Windows Phone OS if they wanted to. I can see Nokia telling Microsoft they'll be refreshing their existing phones, even more so when they released their flagship 900 just a few months before the WP8 hardware announcement.

So why didn't many of those "features" that Nokia has added filter into other phones then, it's not as if they require specific hardware that only Nokia has in their own phones unless the colour makes a difference!!!

My LG Windows Phone has the engineers menu active and I can drop into the register and set my phone to a Nokia and the Nokia apps work fine, such as Nokia drive/maps etc, so it very much is a case of Nokia limiting their apps to their own phones for no other reason then being exclusive to Nokia. Personally, I feel its devaluing the platform, but *shrugs* its their apps and phones I guess.

Looks like a rather disappointing update for non Nokia Windows Phones, seems like we only really get the new homescreen.

One of the big selling points for Adobe's Photoshop in versions has been content aware fill. I.e removing unwanted objects and people from photos, this is something the camera filters can do on a phone now. It'll be pretty useful if it actually works good, but I've seen disappointing results even in Photoshop when the image is being worked on per pixel..

neo158 said,
Maybe you need to re read what I wrote!!!

I did, and the only half decent extra you get for being a Nokia user is the photo filters, one being the content aware fill, and as I said I expect it to be useless on a phone.

The rest is either already on the Nokia phones or simply going to be Nokia only anyway, such as the animated pictures, contact shares/transfers. Bluetooth sharing of drm free content.. so that'll be some MP3 and pictures, yeah because it's going to be awesome when you find another Nokia user to transfer with, and as for ring tones.. there are 100s of ringtone apps already on the marketplace for free.

god damnit, how hard is it to know if we are getting background voip support (there should be no reason why we dont)!? if they dont deliver that for lumias, then i am moving to android. i didnt buy the 900 for ****s and giggles, i bought it for the front camera!

Feel the same brother, they fooled customers with the ad "BETA Test is Over". well... at least its more stable than android can't complain about that right? android tends to crash a lot. Lumia 900 is a solid phone. Think about it as basics like Phone Calls, Navigation, Emails, Calendar and One note integration. It does all pretty well... These are the things that keeps me happy

jorel009 said,
god damnit, how hard is it to know if we are getting background voip support (there should be no reason why we dont)!? if they dont deliver that for lumias, then i am moving to android. i didnt buy the 900 for ****s and giggles, i bought it for the front camera!

my guess is no, as it would rely on the new background multitasking which is reliant (afaik) on the w8 kernel.

duddit2 said,

my guess is no, as it would rely on the new background multitasking which is reliant (afaik) on the w8 kernel.

This, the CE kernel is not really designed to be a true multitasker. Whatever it already does in WP7 is surprising sometimes

No it's not. WP7.5 support multitasking in the background, the OS just limits it. First-party apps run in the background just fine.

jorel009 said,
i didnt buy the 900 for ****s and giggles, i bought it for the front camera!

At least you don't have to stand in the bathroom, taking a picture of yourself in the mirror with the phone blocking 90% of your body.

Can't ditch Zune then, bugger. Having to have my music in Zune DRM WMA and Xbox Music WMA is annoying the hell out of me.

Aergan said,
Can't ditch Zune then, bugger. Having to have my music in Zune DRM WMA and Xbox Music WMA is annoying the hell out of me.

...wat?? just use mp3? i dont need to have wma drm to play files in zune or my phone?

Aergan said,
Can't ditch Zune then, bugger. Having to have my music in Zune DRM WMA and Xbox Music WMA is annoying the hell out of me.

If you own the rights to the media, its legal to download these files for personal use and thus get a MP3 version. At least in Europe that's the case. Not to sure about USA though.

Aergan said,
Can't ditch Zune then, bugger. Having to have my music in Zune DRM WMA and Xbox Music WMA is annoying the hell out of me.
It says a lot about your intelligence if you're running into this issue.

I find it rather amusing that you took the time to stop whatever you were doing to offend him for no reason at all.

Well, it's the internet after all. C'est la vie.

I have an Xbox Music subscription. Files I download via my Phone (Lumia 800) or Zune can't be played in Xbox music and visa versa. Thus to do this using Microsoft's services, I cannot currently have one library of music. I was hoping that 7.8 might at least support Xbox music.

But hey, carry on and attack my intelligence me for not stealing.

Aergan said,

But hey, carry on and attack my intelligence me for not stealing.

Oh! That makes sense. No, if you had explained that before nobody would have attacked you.

*puts troll hat on*

It says a lot about their intelligence if they don't know what issues they'd be running into... oh the irony, it burns!

Aergan said,
I have an Xbox Music subscription. Files I download via my Phone (Lumia 800) or Zune can't be played in Xbox music and visa versa. Thus to do this using Microsoft's services, I cannot currently have one library of music. I was hoping that 7.8 might at least support Xbox music.

But hey, carry on and attack my intelligence me for not stealing.


Paying for an all you can eat music service that requires you have an active subscription to play any downloaded conent and then complaining about the DRM file format that allows that service to exist is senseless. If you want to own the music pay for it and they provide an MP3.

sviola said,
I find it rather amusing that you took the time to stop whatever you were doing to offend him for no reason at all.

Well, it's the internet after all. C'est la vie.

Quite frankly, there are so many people w/o any true knowledge of a product or service that make statements like this. He's complaining about the file format and DRM that allows him to download temporarily licensed music. If you want perpetually licensed or non-drm'd music, buy it like anybody body else. It's not stealing to do that.

As far as time, unless you type at the speed of a 4 year old, the seconds I spent writing that weren't much of a cost at all.

I'm actually complaining about one Microsoft music service providing two different DRM methods for the same content depending on how it is provisioned and are incompatible with each other and with the never being excluded from Windows Phone 7.x - but I guess you missed that because likely you have no relevancy to the news post or my original comments (as you have yet to mention anything relevant on the matter thus far).