Lenovo surpasses Dell as world's number two PC maker

Dell, which has been the world's number two biggest PC maker for some time, is now in the number three position, according to two separate research firms. Both Gartner and IDC are reporting that China-based Lenovo is now the number two largest PC maker, behind HP which is still number one. Lenovo took over IBM's consumer PC business several years ago. IDC says, "Lenovo has now outpaced the market by more than 10 (percent) for the past 9 quarters, and by 20 (percent) or more in six of these periods."

Gartner and IDC said that PC shipments in the third quarter of 2011 grew just slightly worldwide with Gartner giving a 3.2 percent number while IDC saying it grew by 3.6 percent. Both numbers were down compared to the research firms' predictions of 5.1 percent and 4.6 percent, respectively. IDC's Jay Chou is quoted as saying, "For the moment, PCs have taken a backseat to a range of other devices competing for shrinking consumer and business budgets. While growth is expected to stay in mid-single digits in the fourth quarter, we should see faster growth in 2012 and beyond based on easier comparisons and refreshed PC offerings as the industry better addresses the evolving usage models by integrating more of the features in ultra mobile devices."

In the US, Dell is still the second biggest PC maker, again behind HP, according to both Gartner and IDC. The third position is taken by Apple who generated 21.5 percent growth in the third quarter thanks in part to solid sales of the MacBook Air notebook.

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All of these companies load tons of crap on their consumer PC's, the SMART thing to do when you buy one is format the HDD and install a clean OEM version of the OS using the OEM-Key that should stuck on the PC case. The hardware you get is usually decent for the money on most off the shelf PC's which is the only reason I would buy one.

HP? #1? That's funny, wasn't Apple just lauding that there Desktops were the #1 desktops in America? Nothing speaks louder and more confusing than Applespeak!

ive used Dell at work for over 10 years now and have little if any problems. I think their consumer products are cruddy and they save the good stuff for us corporate customers. I am still sticking with Dell since they are a US company. China is the devil.

The sooner Dell dies the better. There are plenty of other OEMs that produce better hardware and don't load up their PCs with crapware.

KingCrimson said,
The sooner Dell dies the better. There are plenty of other OEMs that produce better hardware and don't load up their PCs with crapware.

if you think the Lenovo Thinkpad Thinkvantage is crapware, then you missed out alot things.

In the US, Dell used to get the latest PC Hardware first and offered the most customization options. That time is now long past. Lenovo has focused on emerging markets well and it is paying off. But I would still opt for a Dell or HP in the USA.

Own two Dell Notebooks (old Inspiron 6000 and a new XPS 15). The old 6000 had the stripped-screw-hinge issue which I rectified by some good ol' liquid weld. Have Ubuntu running on it and use it as my travel notebook (if I damage it I really do not care). XPS 15 I use for home and work.

Anyway, aside from the hinge issue...I haven't had a issue with either one. Am a bit surprised that they fell to 3rd. Not very familiar with their desktops (aside from using them at work)...but I've always thought the notebooks were solid (hinge issues excluded). The display on the XPS 15 is outstanding.

I wanted a computer with an APU when they recently came out, and dell only has one with one of the lowest apus out there... so I went to HP. However I bought this HP to replace my very old but nice inspiron 1501 that has never stopped of working and in fact it's still being used by my little brother. Low diversity on AMD cpus for me, no sale for me.

Some specs of my 1501:
Ati Xpress 1501 (x200) graphics (shared memory)
Turion Tl-58 (64x2) up to 1.8 Ghz
1 Gb memory (upgraded to 4... even if the page says only supports 2, it supports up to 4)
I still consider that laptop very capable, even better than most of the netbooks out there, not to mention the graphics that are by far better than a GM950 from intel... it was my first laptop and one of my great purchases alone.

I bought a Thinkpad to replace my MacBook Pro a few months ago. Great build quality. I think I'll be buying only Lenovo Thinkpads from now on.

Personally,
I don't care for Lenovo at all, but from my own experience, at least they don't pack as much crapware onto their systems. HP on the other hand, should stand for HUGE PILE, if you catch my drift?

Dell isn't far behind, if at all, in that category.

cork1958 said,
Personally,
I don't care for Lenovo at all, but from my own experience, at least they don't pack as much crapware onto their systems. HP on the other hand, should stand for HUGE PILE, if you catch my drift?

Dell isn't far behind, if at all, in that category.

Yeah, I particularly like Dell's replacement for the Taskbar. Because who doesn't want two of those??

Or the Google Gadget bar on Vista and 7... Because it can't do that natively or anything...

WAR-DOG said,
I have a different reference for "number two" in my dictionary and it involves the toilet

Then Dell should definitely be # 2...

My Dell studio 15" laptop will be most likely my LAST dell laptop. I've had 4 of them over the past 6 years or so. The quality of the builds lately has gone DOWNHILL. Keys pop off, hinges don't last etc. My next lappy will probably be a Lenovo.

naap51stang said,
My Dell studio 15" laptop will be most likely my LAST dell laptop. I've had 4 of them over the past 6 years or so. The quality of the builds lately has gone DOWNHILL. Keys pop off, hinges don't last etc. My next lappy will probably be a Lenovo.

I'm in the same boat. I have owned numerous Dell's and they were great. The last few years though they get worse and worse every year. This last one was the last straw. I'm going with a Toshiba...

i wonder how can HP be the #1 and want to get rid of the PC division...

i find incredible that lenovo its doing a great job, i know thinkpad its the best quality machine but most lenovo stuff its almost acer quality (which its not good)

eilegz said,
i wonder how can HP be the #1 and want to get rid of the PC division...

i find incredible that lenovo its doing a great job, i know thinkpad its the best quality machine but most lenovo stuff its almost acer quality (which its not good)

Because HP is in BAD financial problems I'd wager... It kind of explains why the new CEO is working for $ 1...

eilegz said,
i wonder how can HP be the #1 and want to get rid of the PC division...

i find incredible that lenovo its doing a great job, i know thinkpad its the best quality machine but most lenovo stuff its almost acer quality (which its not good)

HP loads loads of crapware on their PCs too. Once it's time to replace my HP desktop I'm going to something else. HP - Never again!

I recently purchased an xps laptop from Dell and honestly, it doesn't feel the way their older laptops did. That's probably why I'm not surprised.
If you stay in the same spot for too long, you get cocky and start producing crappy products. My school uses Lenovo and they seem to be pretty solid.

Quick Shot said,
I recently purchased an xps laptop from Dell and honestly, it doesn't feel the way their older laptops did. That's probably why I'm not surprised.
If you stay in the same spot for too long, you get cocky and start producing crappy products. My school uses Lenovo and they seem to be pretty solid.

Yeah, mine is an XPS as well. They're just not anywhere near the quality they used to be. It's really a shame.

Oh wow, nice Go Lenovo. Not that I benefit from this news at all but it's just my choose PC equipment supplier so guess i'm glad for them. With HP maybe getting out of the business then that may push Lenovo to #1 i guess?

SHoTTa35 said,
Oh wow, nice Go Lenovo. Not that I benefit from this news at all but it's just my choose PC equipment supplier so guess i'm glad for them. With HP maybe getting out of the business then that may push Lenovo to #1 i guess?

If Lenovo was more in the big box stores, they would be #1..

I figured it would only be a matter of time before Dell was eclipsed by someone. It's truly a shame. Dell used to be a really great PC Manufacturer and now they churn out nothing but garbage (Pretty garbage mind you...). Once other manufacturers start making better looking computers and more customizable computers (Which seems to be the way things are going), Dell will really be hurting.

lenovo has a very small presence in Canada.. I wonder if that is going ot change soon.. this is one of dells big markets.

M_Lyons10 said,
I figured it would only be a matter of time before Dell was eclipsed by someone. It's truly a shame. Dell used to be a really great PC Manufacturer and now they churn out nothing but garbage (Pretty garbage mind you...). Once other manufacturers start making better looking computers and more customizable computers (Which seems to be the way things are going), Dell will really be hurting.

It's also only a matter of time before Michael Dell puts his foot in his mouth and says something exceedingly stupid yet again.

Ayepecks said,

It's also only a matter of time before Michael Dell puts his foot in his mouth and says something exceedingly stupid yet again.

Yeah. It's really a shame too. Because all it is is greed. They certainly charge enough for their computers to not have to build them like ****, yet they do anyway. Because they're greedy. To be honest, I don't think there is an easier company in the world to turn around than Dell. I don't think it will happen, because it would mean spending money to do things right and not pocketing as much profit. But their design is good and they used to know a little something about building good machines...

Lachlan said,
lenovo has a very small presence in Canada.. I wonder if that is going ot change soon.. this is one of dells big markets.

Yea was just about to say, i NEVER see lenovo's anywhere...i see em in stores but no one has one. I was tempted to get one once cause it was a great buy but cant remember why i didnt..
Either way..i had an alienware last year, worst experience of my life. Dell sent out 5 replacement screens and ALL were bad(dust on inside of panel, dead pixels, uneven lighting)...

Beyond Godlike said,

Yea was just about to say, i NEVER see lenovo's anywhere...i see em in stores but no one has one. I was tempted to get one once cause it was a great buy but cant remember why i didnt..
Either way..i had an alienware last year, worst experience of my life. Dell sent out 5 replacement screens and ALL were bad(dust on inside of panel, dead pixels, uneven lighting)...

My last Dell laptop had to be sent in for repairs 5 times as well. The one time all they did was break my keyboard and mail it back to me. LMAO Even the "technician" they sent to my home broke something green (Which usually means important), exclaimed "Oh ****", then insisted everything was O.K., threw the computer back together wrong (The ports didn't line up with the holes...) and ran out the door.

And to finally get the computer fixed I had to email the entire board of directors... NEVER again. I've switched the entire company to Toshiba and Asus without a single problem and my computer's next. Then this will be a Dell free zone (And prior to this experience everything was Dell).

M_Lyons10 said,
Dell used to be a really great PC Manufacturer and now they churn out nothing but garbage (Pretty garbage mind you...).

Dell crippled their laptop hardware choice deliberately. For example nearly all laptops on official site have no FullHD resolution and can't be upgraded to 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 screen which is a complete joke. Its like trying to sell latest mobile phone with 10 year old 320x240 screen. From my point of view this decision is based on plain greed which suppose to force their customers to buy more expensive XPS or Alienware range which offers less value for money.

EJocys said,

Dell crippled their laptop hardware choice deliberately. For example nearly all laptops on official site have no FullHD resolution and can't be upgraded to 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 screen which is a complete joke. Its like trying to sell latest mobile phone with 10 year old 320x240 screen. From my point of view this decision is based on plain greed which suppose to force their customers to buy more expensive XPS or Alienware range which offers less value for money.

Sounds believable. I honestly hadn't noticed that particular limitation, but Dell is definitely a greedy outfit. Absolutely. This doesn't surprise me at all.