LG confirms Windows Mobile 7 devices to ship in September

A few weeks ago at CES 2010, news broke that various mobile phone manufacturers had confirmed that Windows Mobile 7.0 will not be shipping this year. Our sources continued to tell us otherwise, as well as a confirmation from a LG representative that devices will ship this year.

Yesterday during a LG press event, a French blogger known as Presse-Citron tweeted that LG had announced during the press conference that Windows Mobile 7.0 devices will ship in September, along with Android 2.1 device in April in the US. Since then the tweets have been removed, but WMPoweruser managed to get a screenshot of Google’s cache:

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Image courtesy of WMPoweruser.com

According to our own insider sources, Windows Mobile 7 will definitely be shipping later this year. We’ve seen early builds of the interface, and the UI is a much needed upgrade and Windows Mobile users are most definitely going to welcome the change. More info on Windows Mobile 7 is expected to be announced at Mobile World Congress this year, and Neowin.net will have full coverage of the event so stay tuned.

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thealexweb said,
I've taken the plunge and bought an Android powered phone and its awesome and yes its to late for MS in the mobile world.

im returning my pixi and getting a hero tomorrow myself.

thealexweb said,
I've taken the plunge and bought an Android powered phone and its awesome and yes its to late for MS in the mobile world.

Too late for MS? Why? Because they hit a rough patch? For the love of christ, at least it was just a rough patch. How does that make it too late? Hold on, hold on, I'm going to say what nobody seems to have thought to say, and I want it to sink in, because this is what's wrong with all of you tards that say it's too late for Microsoft:

Apple. Newton.

Talk about too freaking late. That was an epic failure, and on a far grander scale than Windows Mobile. FAR grander. Apple tried, built hype, and failed in a whole new magical way. Clearly it was too late for them in the mobile world, right?

Right?

Just be freaking honest already. It's not too late for Microsoft--you just personally, yourself, want Microsoft to fail out and leave the market. You don't WANT Microsoft to make something good. You want WM7 to be bad, and you want it to fail, and nothing could possibly be worse in your universe than it ending up being a quality product.

Edited by Joshie, Jan 19 2010, 4:52am :

i might as well jump on the wagon and post what i heard at the local gas station;

Windows Mobile 7 will be Android Based! :D
I know, i know, this does not sound credible, but the local hillbilly that told me this has never lied to anyone, so it MUST be true:D


oh please, Microsoft barely confirmed the GUI (AND ONLY THAT!"R#¤%¤##), it's easy to start a internet rumor, people jump on them like monkeys on bananas.

And i wonder what it's all "too late" for, I really don't think people realize how versatile Windows Mobile is, how big the business software selection is. I would like to know how many uses their phones for productive and business software, and not just for iBeer apps :p

@ Frank Fontaine
@ M_Lyons10
My personal feeling is that the 1000 developers working on it got it redesigned from scratch, almost. To get rid of all the deprecated legacy of the past (Despite the fact that I like WM very much, I must admit it appears too much Win3.1 like, and not only regarding the GUI). I've read articles about that somewhere, but let you searching for them. Still, I found one or two which go in that direction:
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2010/01/17/rumor-windows-mobile-7-not-based-on-wince-and-thus-not-backward-compatible.html
http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/54774-windows-mobile-7-interface-silverlight2.htm (this one in French, Google's your friend :))
Basically, it seems it won't be backward compatible with "legacy" apps and the over way around, except for WM6.5 which Microsoft previsously said it would share the market with WM7 (like WM6.5 being the cheap version and WM7 the high-end one).
Anyway, seeing I can almost emulate a base Pentium system running Win3.11 in DosBox under Windows 7 on a crappy Celeron ULV Tablet PC, I guess the 1Ghz and more phones which are likely to run WM7 later this year will be able to run these legacy WinCE apps through some kind of emulation layer (just a thought though!!!). ;)
Anyway, time will tell?

I am not going to write off Windows Mobile 7 just yet, my prediction is that it will use the proper Windows kernel (MinWin).

If Microsoft hits the market with a [u]good[/u] platform then manufacturers will jump on board and they'll claw their way back again.

I dunno, but the headline is misleading... Seems more like a random blogger confirms Windows Mobile 7 devices to ship in September... If I'm not hearing it from LG (Or at least from a reliable and trusted source) it didn't happen as far as I'm concerned...

smooth3006 said,
wm7 will really have to impress me to comeback to a winmo device. right now i love webos and my next move is android.

Speaking as an Android user, I'm excited to see what Windows Mobile 7 will offer. I don't understand hating on new technology. Regardless of past experiences, WM7 will be new, and fun to look at from a tech enthusiast's point of view.

Ultimately there will be a crowd of people who, on day one, will say it sucks because it doesn't have the iPhone's app library, and such silly people can't be avoided. They are, after all, too distracted by 400 different apps that pretend to fire a gun, 30 different coin toss apps, 80 different IM clients, and 7000 different classic arcade game remakes.

Heck, all you need is a set of classic 8- and 16-bit console emulators and any mobile OS--from Android to Windows--will have access to thousands of games that all these resprited apps were based on, and will probably look pretty darn crisp at handheld resolutions.

But I guess you've already cast a dark shadow over whatever chance WM7 has at making a first impression on you. Thanks for participating in technology.

Joshie said,

Speaking as an Android user, I'm excited to see what Windows Mobile 7 will offer. I don't understand hating on new technology. Regardless of past experiences, WM7 will be new, and fun to look at from a tech enthusiast's point of view.

Ultimately there will be a crowd of people who, on day one, will say it sucks because it doesn't have the iPhone's app library, and such silly people can't be avoided. They are, after all, too distracted by 400 different apps that pretend to fire a gun, 30 different coin toss apps, 80 different IM clients, and 7000 different classic arcade game remakes.

Heck, all you need is a set of classic 8- and 16-bit console emulators and any mobile OS--from Android to Windows--will have access to thousands of games that all these resprited apps were based on, and will probably look pretty darn crisp at handheld resolutions.

But I guess you've already cast a dark shadow over whatever chance WM7 has at making a first impression on you. Thanks for participating in technology.

136,000 Applications where there is an app for almost everything if you can think of something you need an app for there is most probably an app for it.

And that is hard to compete with definitely.

Vice said,

136,000 Applications where there is an app for almost everything if you can think of something you need an app for there is most probably an app for it.

And that is hard to compete with definitely.

There's an app for just about everything that no one needs or wants! A load of what is 90% shovelware isn't really anything to sing about.

Skwerl said,

There's an app for just about everything that no one needs or wants! A load of what is 90% shovelware isn't really anything to sing about.

Indeed "shovelwear". 3 Billion apps downloaded, 1 Billion of which were PAID apps. Yeah this whole thing is just a novelty! no one wants this at all! </sarcasm>

Vice said,

Indeed "shovelwear". 3 Billion apps downloaded, 1 Billion of which were PAID apps. Yeah this whole thing is just a novelty! no one wants this at all! </sarcasm>

[ citation needed ]

According to an article at the 1.5 billion download mark, the ration of free to paid app downloads was anywhere from 15-40 to 1. Let's play math!

If we go with the optimum ratio of 15:1, that's 100 million paid apps at the 1.5 billion download mark. In order to reach 1 billion paid apps at the 3 billion download mark, they'd have to reach 900 million paid apps over the following 1.5 billion--a 1.7:1 ratio. Can anyone guess the odds of such a massive statistical turn-around? From 15:1 to 1.7:1 more than a year after the initial product launch?

I'm gonna go with damn near impossible.

Oh, for my own sake, a citation:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/07/14/apples_app_store_more_than_1_5_billion_served.html

Heck, even if there was a [still unlikely] overall improvement to an average 10:1 ratio at 3 billion, that's still not even a third of the way to your impressive 1 billion paid apps. Whew, how did it not HURT to pull such a big number out of your rear?

Edited by Joshie, Jan 19 2010, 5:08am :

Fritzly said,
"We’ve seen early builds of the interface"
Could you elaborate or are you under NDA?

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-mobile-7-ui-confirmed-by-microsoft

^Post from Nov. 2009

Edited by Bioran, Jan 18 2010, 2:31am : Fixed link

Bioran23 said,

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-mobile-7-ui-confirmed-by-microsoft

^Post from Nov. 2009


Thanks but honestly I am not impressed at all......... the image is very similar to the previously leaked ones.

Sean Bradford said,

NDA.

Oh ok, I just commented above to ask, now I know. But I had a feeling that was why, but I remember seeing a video about it from forums and they couldn't explain too much but they did say if it was awesome or not (they can't possibly stop you from opinion if you don't say what it looked like or what it had in it, just like it or not). Like on a scale of 1 to 10, what did you think of it? My scale would be 8 being iPhone OS with apps and now a tablet and the popular iPod Touch using it, the 6 being Android OS as it's not as great as the jailbreak experience on the iPhone OS and can be too complex for the average Joe, and a 2 for Windows Mobile just being old and a 1 for WebOS.

Edited by Electric Jolt, Jan 18 2010, 4:31pm : Added in more detailed explanation in parentheses.

Electric Jolt said,

Oh ok, I just commented above to ask, now I know. But I had a feeling that was why, but I remember seeing a video about it from forums and they couldn't explain too much but they did say if it was awesome or not (they can't possibly stop you from opinion if you don't say what it looked like or what it had in it, just like it or not). Like on a scale of 1 to 10, what did you think of it? My scale would be 8 being iPhone OS with apps and now a tablet and the popular iPod Touch using it, the 6 being Android OS as it's not as great as the jailbreak experience on the iPhone OS and can be too complex for the average Joe, and a 2 for Windows Mobile just being old and a 1 for WebOS.

What I can say is that from the early builds I have saw, the UI has been completely rebuilt. I'm not a Apple fan, but I will give the iPhone's UI an 7 on a scale of 1-10. From what I've seen of Windows Mobile 7, I would give it a 6.5. I'm a simplistic guy, if that tells you anything.

Edited by Sean Bradford, Jan 18 2010, 8:31pm :

So Sean when you say up top that "We've seen it." You mean you personally? And was this back at mobius last year? I forgot when that happened actually.

GP007 said,
So Sean when you say up top that "We've seen it." You mean you personally? And was this back at mobius last year? I forgot when that happened actually.

Yes I mean I've personally seen it, and no I'm not refering to mobius.

yeah im soo owned. my $$ is on no wm7 until 2011 or so and by then it will be too late. it needs a TOTAL redesign to even compete with webos, apple and android.

smooth3006 said,

non recent but the older ones look like crap still.

You mean those shots from 2007 that everyones seen posted left and right? I hope you're not.

GP007 said,

You mean those shots from 2007 that everyones seen posted left and right? I hope you're not.

i dunno what year they are from? ive seen no recent shot. link me to them if you can. honestly screen shots mean nothing, i want to see a video.

smooth3006 said,

i dunno what year they are from? ive seen no recent shot. link me to them if you can. honestly screen shots mean nothing, i want to see a video.

They're the old concept shots from some leaked document posted on engadget. They should still have them on the site as well so you can do a search and probably find them.

smooth3006 said,
yeah im soo owned. my $ is on no wm7 until 2011 or so and by then it will be too late. it needs a TOTAL redesign to even compete with webos, apple and android.

You mean a redesign of the UI? All of the core functionality is there. Your comment is rather silly.

master2k27 said,
i agree with you that it needs a compete redo and if they dont its game over

WTF is game over? You people act like 2012 really is the end of the world! Get over it, 2012 isn't ending the world anytime soon. Now how about you guys all wake up and smell the coffee, and realize Microsoft has time and their release for Windows Mobile 7 this coming September is a perfect release time right after Windows Mobile 6.5.

all of this is pure crap. one minute it will ship, then the next it has been postponed until 2011, now it will ship again? ill believe it when i see it. i still think it's too late for winmo.

smooth3006 said,
all of this is pure crap. one minute it will ship, then the next it has been postponed until 2011, now it will ship again? ill believe it when i see it. i still think it's too late for winmo.

None of the sources for the WM7 "news" for now are microsoft, so i choose to trust none of them.

TCLN Ryster said,

Too late for what exactly?

too late to compete in todays market. android is currently close to dominating. then you have the iphone "which i hate" and webos too. the biggest issue with winmo is the interface and UI sucks without major tweaking or custom roms.

smooth3006 said,
too late to compete in todays market. android is currently close to dominating. then you have the iphone "which i hate" and webos too. the biggest issue with winmo is the interface and UI sucks without major tweaking or custom roms.

It's never too late, it's not like there's some imaginary deadline to meet. The moment they release it they'll be back in the running again.

smooth3006 said,

too late to compete in todays market. android is currently close to dominating. then you have the iphone "which i hate" and webos too. the biggest issue with winmo is the interface and UI sucks without major tweaking or custom roms.

Android is close to dominating? What statistics are you looking at? It is growing in market share, but no where near dominating anything... lol

As for Windows Mobile, you said it yourself, the biggest issue is the UI, which Microsoft is working on. All of the core functionality is there, a new UI is a rather simple matter as compared to major features that are missing... Microsoft is taking it seriously, and we're just going to have to wait until we see what Windows Mobile 7 brings. I think it's foolish to discount it without even knowing what *it* is though.

smooth3006 said,

too late to compete in todays market. android is currently close to dominating. then you have the iphone "which i hate" and webos too. the biggest issue with winmo is the interface and UI sucks without major tweaking or custom roms.

And you know, when iPhone was released there were other players that were denominating too. Palm has made a come back, Apple grabbed a large number of users within a small number of years - Microsoft is facing an up hill battle but I don't see them simply handing it over to competitors without a decent fight.

Maybe the UI is a simple task but it is surely a long one to accomplish in Redmond.......


Edited by Fritzly, Jan 18 2010, 3:52am :

Fritzly said,
Maybe the UI is a simple task but it is surely a long one to accomplish in Redmond.......

I assure you that there is nothing trivial about designing and developing UI. For most software, it's the most important area of development, ad often the most complex.

TCLN Ryster said,

It's never too late, it's not like there's some imaginary deadline to meet. The moment they release it they'll be back in the running again.

Exactly, +1. 3D mobile operating systems aren't coming out, world isn't ending. Windows Mobile has all the time really.