Apple's Rock and Roll iPod event [finished]

Apple's event is now finished and a stream of the broadcast will be made available by Apple shortly.

Apple announced new iPod touch/iPhone 3.1 firmware, iTunes version 9 and a new iPod nano that now has a camera.

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was planning on buying a gift for a friend. It would be either ipod touch or zune hd. I think I will be buying a zune hd. Been playing around with the zune software and I really like it. It has an elegant design :-) I just hope that MS will have a decent app service along with movie offerings.

That speaker on the Nano is going to be a public annoyance. We have enough kids running around thinking their phones are boomboxes, without the added "benefits" of having to sit in public places listening to someone blast their iPod playlist through the tinny speakers. Besides, given the quality of the default white earphones with their associated sound leak, speakers are really unnecessary.


Is it just me or does Mr Steveie J look like a bum in that pic?
Yeah I know he's had all sorts of medical issues but a man in his position can afford the very best health care and perhaps even a razor blade and a little moisturizer too.

It's sort of weird that their iPods come in all the colors their eMac line used to come in. I guess the color of the gadget casing works is more of a selling point for portable media devices than for desktop computers.

Well looks like I won't be buying a new iPod Touch. I was hoping they would make the new one based off the iPhone GS hardware so that way it was much quicker. Right now I am going to stick with my Gen 1 iPod Touch and buy a Zune. Ridiculous they didn't do ANYTHING to the iPod Touch. I was hoping to see a camera end up on the iPod Touch. I don't see how the Nano really needed one since it already has a small screen as it is, and the iPod Touch can make better use out of a camera than the Nano anyways.

But whatever...Apple lost my one and only business with them. Make me pay $30 in additional fees to keep my firmware up to date is appauling. Why not just brick my iPod every 4 months and make me a buy a new one. Apple is power and money hungry and by charging for firmware updates to existing customers yet new customers get it free with their new iPods is a great way to **** off your current customers.

I'm confused about the $199 8gb Ipod touch. Is it the same thing as the last gen Ipod touch?

The Apple website says it is updated, but what did they update? All the specs just address the 300 and 400 dollar ones.

Wow, total dud. Oh well, at least the iPods are cheap.

Looks like Apple spend all of thier R&D cash countering those Microsoft Ads.

god some people hype these events up don't they...

I have to say the Nano looks really nice. I wish they would update the Classic to be similar to the Nano.

chadlachlanross said,
Oh thank goodness, I got my two wishes: 64 gig iPod Touch and NO camera!

I can understand if you think the camera is lame and not really a OMG advantage. but to wish NO camera?

If the camera is lame, then why want one?

So you are saying it should make coffee? Be a radar detector? Be a tooth paste dispenser? By your reasoning, it should have all of these features, regardless of how pointless or useless.

chadlachlanross said,
If the camera is lame, then why want one?

So you are saying it should make coffee? Be a radar detector? Be a tooth paste dispenser? By your reasoning, it should have all of these features, regardless of how pointless or useless.


You can just not use the camera. You can even get an old case, which would hide the camera, so the only way you would know would be the icon, which with itunes 9 you can probably remove as well.

chadlachlanross said,
If the camera is lame, then why want one?

So you are saying it should make coffee? Be a radar detector? Be a tooth paste dispenser? By your reasoning, it should have all of these features, regardless of how pointless or useless.

The device supports emailing through WiFi though. People like to email pictures around. How nice it would be to take a picture and email it to a friend. Including something so simple on the ipod nano, yet not including it on the ipod touch is just stupid.

You can just not use the camera. You can even get an old case, which would hide the camera, so the only way you would know would be the icon, which with itunes 9 you can probably remove as well.[/quote]

I'll just not use the coffee maker and radar detector as well. And since adding useless and pointless features to a device will make it weight 10 lbs and be the size of a tank... yeah, I'm happy they decided to leave in only features that will actually be used. Not just 'covered up by a case' since they wouldn't be used anyway.

Simply put... iPod Touch 3g with 64 gig and Camera = no sale no how. iPod Touch 3g with 64 gig and NO camera.... well, maybe some day, but at least not an outright 'never!'.

I was ready to buy a new ipod touch if it had a camera and a mic, but this is a complete disappointment.

@SirEvan: The Zune HD wont have a Replaceable/Higher Capacity Battery or Wireless N or a Camera. So I hope you dont say your getting a zund hd because then you sir are confused.

Also, How much higher capacity does the battery life have to be? You can play music literally 25 hours. Or apps music youtube etc the WHOLE day.

I have a friend with a iPod Touch 2G that he got this summer with his mac book. He's used the **** out of it the first week and the battery lasted him all day, then charge. Not that hard to charge everynight.

I think itunes9 is up, they just dont show it in the page? Or at least, if youclick on download itunes you get a "thanks for download " itunes 9 page

Yup, it's up. Though only half the pages have been updated and it's confusing

alarson83 said,
I was considering buying an ipod touch if it had a camera... and for sure with a mic. Guess not.

there's not a camera in it but I wouldn't rule out the microphone yet.

Julius Caro said,
there's not a camera in it but I wouldn't rule out the microphone yet.

It looks like the low end model doesn't have that, but the other models appear to.

DomZ said,
Are you sure the link is for 9? Installed it?

The old download was 74mb, it almost 14mb larger and downloading now.
Installed as 9.0.0.70.

The x64 windows one looks about the same size as the v8 download that was on there earlier, ~75mb. I'll wait a bit first until someone confirms/pages update properly

ipod touch needs wireless N, camera, and faster processor...plus replaceable/higher capacity battery to get me to upgrade

KingyOwl said,
This has confirmed it: Zune HD for me! (If they ever come to the UK! and 64GB would have been nice! )

Why? What made you go ZuneHD?

Powerless said,
Why? What made you go ZuneHD?


Many reasons for most of us...

- Subscription music, all you can eat.
- Beautiful, elegant interface, you've gotta admit it beats the iPod
- Full TV output, not just videos
- Perfect integration with the Marketplace for artist information
- NVidia Tegra, means that video games will be taken to a whole new mobile level
- Free updates, for life
- HD Radio (Apple doesn't have that)
- Buy from FM
- Wow, what else? lol

Those are some of the many reasons.

Scutley said,
Apple always build's up hype on their products only to disappoint.


Apple didn't breath a word about any of this, rumor sites did.

bob_c_b said,
Apple didn't breath a word about any of this, rumor sites did.


ok fine Apple slappies always build hype to disappoint.

Scutley said,
ok fine Apple slappies always build hype to disappoint.

Who cares, just ignore them, just as you should ignore all fanboys.

Haha to all those expecting a new iPod touch with better features.........but this also might mean they might have something coming up for 2010

It does, more mem up to 64gb, faster processor, and better graphics processor. I guess they could have added a camera in there as well.

I would love to see one with gps, compass, but it would probably cannibal iphone sales, something they don't want.

why does it say "no beatles, no new ipod touch" when at gizmodo I'm seeing 32gb and 64gb versions of ipod touch with OpenGL 2?

ipod touch 2G always had a higher clocked CPU than the rest of the line-up (and I mean the iphone 3G, the 1st gen ipod touch and the 1st gen iphone). Does this update bring it to 3Gs levels? meaning that there have been 3 steps in cpu clock in the iphone/ipod touch era?

iPod Touch 2g:
CPU: Arm 6 running at 533 MHz
GPU: PowerVR MBX Lite

iPhone 3G S:
CPU: Arm 7 running at 600 MHz
GPU: PowerVR SGX

I guess now the ipod touch ... "2Gs" is up there with the iphone. The former models (iphone 3G and ipod touch 1g) were clocked at 412Mhz or something

There is new iPod Touches, people are confused. The new ones just don't have a camera like everyone expected.

Julius Caro said,
why does it say "no beatles, no new ipod touch" when at gizmodo I'm seeing 32gb and 64gb versions of ipod touch with OpenGL 2?

ipod touch 2G always had a higher clocked CPU than the rest of the line-up (and I mean the iphone 3G, the 1st gen ipod touch and the 1st gen iphone). Does this update bring it to 3Gs levels? meaning that there have been 3 steps in cpu clock in the iphone/ipod touch era?

How does opengl 2 compare to the nvidia tegra that the zune will have?

M. Seth said,

How does opengl 2 compare to the nvidia tegra that the zune will have?


The touch doesn't haev open gl 2, it has open gl es 2, not the whole open gl api.
I imagine it would be the same for the Zune hd, since open gl es 2 is the latest open gl es version.

Lol built in FM radios for nanos. I thought they never wanted to do that. No cameras for iPod touch after all?

SojIrOu said,
Lol built in FM radios for nanos. I thought they never wanted to do that. No cameras for iPod touch after all?

Yeah, I think the radio is probably a bigger new feature than the camera... That will be nice...

SojIrOu said,
Lol built in FM radios for nanos. I thought they never wanted to do that. No cameras for iPod touch after all?


Yea, Apple was always anti-FM radio...wonder what changed that.......Zun....

64GB iPod Touch, $399.
32GB iPod Touch, $299.
8GB iPod Touch, $199.
160GB iPod Classic (increase from 120GB), $249.
2GB iPod Shuffles, $59.
4GB iPod Shuffles, $79.
8GB iPod Nano (with Camera, Pedometer, FM Radio, and VoiceOver), $149.
16GB iPod Nano (with Camera, Pedometer, FM Radio, and VoiceOver), $179.

KamiQuazi said,
64GB iPod Touch, $399.
32GB iPod Touch, $299.
8GB iPod Touch, $199.
160GB iPod Classic (increase from 120GB), $249.
2GB iPod Shuffles, $59.
4GB iPod Shuffles, $79.
8GB iPod Nano (with Camera, Pedometer, FM Radio, and VoiceOver), $149.
16GB iPod Nano (with Camera, Pedometer, FM Radio, and VoiceOver), $179.

Great, thanks for this. Do you know the price of the old 8gd ipod touch? Also, do they all have the faster processor? I will look for this info myself, but there is so much apple stuff today, for some reason, it can be hard to get specifics.

found it:

iPod model New Price Price cut
8GB iPod nano $129 $20
16GB iPod nano $149 $50
8GB iPod touch $189 $40
16GB iPod touch $249 $50
32GB iPod touch $279 $120
120GB iPod classic $229 $20

Good on you. Here is a medal :)

The touch is not great for games, as it has only one button. But the fact is, loads of people buy it for music, and it has the bonus of an amazing browser (the best mobile browser in existence), video, and a huge library of apps, which includes lots of games. But all the game need to make adjustments for the lack of controls, usually through screen controls.

cakesy said,
Good on you. Here is a medal :)

The touch is not great for games, as it has only one button. But the fact is, loads of people buy it for music, and it has the bonus of an amazing browser (the best mobile browser in existence), video, and a huge library of apps, which includes lots of games. But all the game need to make adjustments for the lack of controls, usually through screen controls.


Gotta correct you. Safari Mobile is NOT the best browser in existence. It's nowhere near. You obviously haven't ever had a chance to try Skyfire (skyfire.com). That browser actually has flash! And it loads faster! Dear god, did Apple just get beat?

andrewbares said,

Gotta correct you. Safari Mobile is NOT the best browser in existence. It's nowhere near. You obviously haven't ever had a chance to try Skyfire (skyfire.com). That browser actually has flash! And it loads faster! Dear god, did Apple just get beat?

Well it's the best mobile browser that comes by default. It's also the best mobile browser on any smart phone...

neufuse said,
Apple definatly knows how to over hype things....

All they did was say there was an Apple event with a few words etc.

It was the rumour sites etc that do all the hyping...

Powerless said,
All they did was say there was an Apple event with a few words etc.

It was the rumour sites etc that do all the hyping...


Some people have trouble differentiating reality from rumor, and people who talk about apple, and apple. There is loads of hype built up before an apple event, but not from apple. They do the opposite, maintain silence.

neufuse said,
Apple definatly knows how to over hype things....


We all know apple overhypes everything. Remember their release of Leopard? "300 new features" or whatever. Yea, lol.

cakesy said,

Some people have trouble differentiating reality from rumor, and people who talk about apple, and apple. There is loads of hype built up before an apple event, but not from apple. They do the opposite, maintain silence.

OK? I think I pretty much said that. hmmm

I was wondering the same. Besides getting the new iPod touch for more memory (64gb), there's almost no benefit besides that and the camera which I would hardly use since most people have a better phone camera.

SojIrOu said,
I was wondering the same. Besides getting the new iPod touch for more memory (64gb), there's almost no benefit besides that and the camera which I would hardly use since most people have a better phone camera.

On the other hand, if it were a 5+ MP camera with a flash and still in the small packaging of the iPod Nano, than that would be a nice feature and I'd probably get one.

But you are probably right... it is going to be a crappy camera that is hardly worthwhile.

Bemani Dog said,
It's a cheesy VGA camera. I am not amused.

Seriously? All they did was VGA? That's really disappointing and completely removes any benefit to getting this new version. I mean, I didn't think that it made sense to begin with, but VGA? You've gotta be kidding me...

M_Lyons10 said,
Seriously? All they did was VGA? That's really disappointing and completely removes any benefit to getting this new version. I mean, I didn't think that it made sense to begin with, but VGA? You've gotta be kidding me...

It is a video camera, it records video at 640x480, 30fps, mpeg4. It is the same as the flip, but you get a bigger screen, more memory, etc.

Still, nothing to write home about, but the nano is named at kids, and I hope you guys aren't kids.

Was expecting more.

cakesy said,
It is a video camera, it records video at 640x480, 30fps, mpeg4. It is the same as the flip, but you get a bigger screen, more memory, etc.

Still, nothing to write home about, but the nano is named at kids, and I hope you guys aren't kids.

Was expecting more.

The Nano is for kids? Well, I really like my Nano... I don't know that that's really true...

I did see that it does video, and that's kind of neat, but so does my camera, and my camera is 10 MP (And wasn't expensive either). I just don't think it's going to garner all that much interest... Who really needs to be able to record video or take pictures with their iPod Nano?

M_Lyons10 said,
The Nano is for kids? Well, I really like my Nano... I don't know that that's really true...

I did see that it does video, and that's kind of neat, but so does my camera, and my camera is 10 MP (And wasn't expensive either). I just don't think it's going to garner all that much interest... Who really needs to be able to record video or take pictures with their iPod Nano?


It can't even take pictures, btw.