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Go TOM!!! You tell 'em

oh god not another hippie, I was under the impression you served in the US Forces to protect freedom (which is all but gone) and capitilisation, unless you run Linux way to go for admitting to being another "warez kiddie" its people like you that keep the prices high. and yes I either bought or obtained my MS OSes for actually caring (and attending keynote events for this site) It's a shame some people are so short-sighted when it comes to Microsoft, they are a BUSINESS and are here TO MAKE MONEY DUHHHHH!!!!! if you like their products they expect you to pay to use it.

[quote]Seems to be a stellar example of everything this place stands for.[/quote] This place is called Neo[b]win[/b] so we are a lil biased towards Microsoft products. However we have also proven to our members not to ignore Macintosh or Linux related news. I'm not sure I want to comment on your views of "this admin" you've made it quite clear here and on hardwaregeeks.com a few times. I administer this site with some other people, if you dislike that I dont force you to stay, take a chill pill please, this is the Internet. Your issues (with me) should be laid to rest.

People generally think that Microsoft steal everything and sell the stolen ideas for more money than its worth like Lindows I guess.. Yet people forget that while MS may not of created or participated in a standard, they did "buy into it" or buy it outright to be included ion Windows or its other technologies. Thats why there is a price tag on Windows. So next time you see standards compliance and MS isnt listed anywhere in it, ask yourself if they had to buy into using the technology (thus driving a price for Windows OS'es) The styuff they don't have to pay for usually is ordered off the system (like Sun Microsystems order off virtual machine) then tried to sue MS when it changed its mind and wanted it included anyway!

whoa! theres a very clear choice here. Look at Windows ME.. It was originally hyped as "the" solution for a media PC no holds barred, it was rejected by the consumer like a sore tooth. Thats choice for ya mate.

I hear ya man, but don't companies have a commitment to shareholders and more importantly themselves to protect their business and income. Its gone from serial numbers to hard to input keys and now digital encryption of some kind. Microsoft btw were not the first to implement the kinds of checks games companies did for their titles and theres no love lost there, everyone accepts that you are doing the developers a favour by actually "buying" their work rather than stealing it. why should it be different for Microsoft, even Linux? aren't we seeing more and more distributions of "open source and free" linux versions costing money now-a-days? (Lindows springs to mind @ $99 a piece) anyway my point is that if everyone actually bought the media/software we wouldnt be seeing Palladium because it wouldn't be needed. Its software evolving mate and we decide the course of that.

I cant argue with that azazel- and TanG but again I'm just pointing out that through very clever marketting Microsoft have taken the OS gauntlet. I've said many times before in my comments that I would love to see someone else do better (not just in the geek sense of page renders ala Mozilla) I mean across the board on wintel. Lindows tried that but its based off "already widely available" components from the Linux community which immediately puts off a buyer. (because of obvious restrictions with hardware and software, albeit the vendors fault for not pushing a competition) Hell I'll be honest I have tried Linux a few times but was put off installing OpenGL enabled drivers, nvidia detonators are difficult to install on Linux at present. Microsoft makes all that easy. Why should I have to know how to recompile a kernel when I just want to do word processing and play games. Its one thing to say that Microsoft have tied our hands but its also another to say "well we're doing something about that!" There is [i]still[/i] no viable alternative. Even the Mac goes with other hardware and won't/can't release a OSX for Intel. about the not being able to control Microsoft Products, theres a varity of ways to be found at [url=http://www.microsoft.com]Microsoft[/url] to complain/request features/submit bugs we have a few links on our main page. It won't change the course of Microsoft history but only through interaction is there a reaction.

well if you don't trust Microsoft, don't be so quick to trust Apple either. Steve Jobs is from the same roots as Bill Gates and in fact Microsoft have a 25% stake in Apple. They also have a commitment to develop for Apple. They don't purposely dominate both end of the scales for a laugh you know. If Apple was any kind of company to be proud of they would compete on the cheaper Intel machines.

whoa Tom. There are plenty of well informed people here who are also attempting to set the record straight. Just because some jack-ass that you don't even know won't listen to you please don't condemn the Internet as "helpless" because there are many lurkers and some who agree that appreciate and learn from your comments. Peace out.