Apple to sue former contractor.
Posted by Keldyn on 12 December 2002 - 01:24 · 12 comments & 1097 views
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#1 Posted by elw3irdo on 12 Dec 2002 - 03:41
- Interesting...
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#2 Posted by azazel- on 12 Dec 2002 - 03:56
- Very.
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#3 Posted by PeterTHX on 12 Dec 2002 - 08:37
- So, what images of new pretty piece of plastic did he steal? "Innovation is in Apple's DNA"...hahahahaha. The DNA they lifted from Xerox, you mean. Not to mention lifting Be-OS and grafting a MAC GUI and calling it your "own" OS. Then they call MS a rip off, yet MS XP is home grown.
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#3.1 Posted by azazel- on 12 Dec 2002 - 13:14
- [neoquote=#3.0 by PeterTHX]So, what images of new pretty piece of plastic did he steal?
"Innovation is in Apple's DNA"...hahahahaha. The DNA they lifted from Xerox, you mean.
Not to mention lifting Be-OS and grafting a MAC GUI and calling it your "own" OS. Then they call MS a rip off, yet MS XP is home grown.[/neoquote]
Your right, MS didn't steal *anything* from IBM or Apple when they originally developed Windows. And the XP GUI is just so spectacular that the only signifigant advances that MS could come up with in 7 years is to add a huge, pointless start panel and tinker-toy colors. Real innovation there. But hey...I can't get anything done on my computer unless I have a billion popup wizards to hold my hand every step of the way. Thank you Microsoft.
Maybe, just maybe, you'll someday get some idea what you're talking about. What part of OS X was based off Be? Do you mean NextStep, which was developed by Steve Jobs when he left Apple, and some technologies came back with him when he returned? Or maybe you mean FreeBSD, which the Darwin kernel is based upon? I mean, yeah, BeOS was unix after all...oh wait. I'm retarded, no it wasn't! You confused me for a minute. Don't let your idiot fanboy opinions cloud your perceptions, and get your stupid facts straight. BeOS has nothing to do with OS X, other than BeOS was developed by a former Apple employee, and is now owned by Palm. Maybe that's where your little confusion came from. 
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#3.2 Posted by JaggedFlame on 12 Dec 2002 - 15:05
- Yeah, azazel, real innovation. Like the Apple menu (what the hell is the significance of that?). Like menus that keep changing at the top, confusing you because you don't know what application you're in. Like the User Accounts control panel item taking a hell of a long time to load even with 128 MB of RAM. I'll stick with XP, thank you very much. A Start button at least makes a freakin' hell of a lot more sense than what Apple's had (and not changed) for the last 15 years.
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#3.3 Posted by azazel- on 12 Dec 2002 - 16:02
- [neoquote=#3.2 by JaggedFlame]Yeah, azazel, real innovation. Like the Apple menu (what the hell is the significance of that?). Like menus that keep changing at the top, confusing you because you don't know what application you're in. Like the User Accounts control panel item taking a hell of a long time to load even with 128 MB of RAM.
I'll stick with XP, thank you very much. A Start button at least makes a freakin' hell of a lot more sense than what Apple's had (and not changed) for the last 15 years.[/neoquote]
Sorry that you're so easily confused. I picked it up in about 10 minutes. Maybe it was the big bold black text blatantly displaying the name of the program currently running, I dunno. Guess you have special needs. The apple menu (now) is used to shutdown the system or put it to sleep. It *did* just recently change. Nice of you to keep up with the times. Not as useful as the system watching what I'm doing and telling me what I most frequently run, or letting me decide what I want to have the quickest access to *on my own*. Thank god for windows. I was too stupid to know what I frequently run...but now, I've got windows to remind me! Yay! Dunno about the User Accounts -System Preferences Panel- (sorry, its not windoze, open that rustly little mind of yours), since I have 640 megs of ram and it opens in 2-3 seconds. As if running *anything* on XP with 128 megs of ram isn't enough to make you want to gnaw through your wrist. Right. Sure.
Your blatant fanboyism isn't being hidden behind that pseudo-intellectual facade anymore, so you can drop it any time. You like Windows, good for you. But don't jump in when I'm correcting glaring innaccuracies with your pointless MS lust. It's pretty pathetic, especially when it is so easily recognized and cast aside. Now I'll let you get back to jerking off on your XP jewel case, since I know you're probably getting that urge again.
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#3.4 Posted by PeterTHX on 12 Dec 2002 - 16:44
- Meethinks I've awakened an Apple fanboy. Yes, the same Apple who couldn't ever develop their OWN true-multitasking OS and had to glom onto UNIX. Oh...did I mention the "innovative" dock is nothing more than Windows Quick Launch on steroids, introduced in 1997 with Internet Explorer 4.0-Win95? You mention "tinker toy" colors? Well, you can turn those OFF. Try doing that with your tinker-toy colored iMac-G4-Powerbook CASE. Yes, FreeBSD, not Be-OS. My error. Still, something ripped off. Thank God for Open Source, eh? If UNIX wasn't free then Apple OS-X wouldn't exist and they would be REALLY up the creek.
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#3.5 Posted by azazel- on 12 Dec 2002 - 17:29
- The dock is based off the NextStep dock. You can see varations of this in Afterstep and Windowmaker on any *nix workstation. You go right on thinking everyone copies off MS, and I'll go on thinking your a clueless retard. The current Apple product line has white, silver and titanium as their colors. Once again, stupidity or ignorance on your part. Which is is? Steve Jobs developed the NextStep OS *after* he left Apple. When he returned, he brought back his work on Nextstep and developed *that* into OS X. Apple ripped off Open Source? Unix is free? Seriously, if you tried, could you be any stupider? Unix isn't free, dipshit. Linux and Free/Open/NetBSD *are*. But I guess, according to your train of thought, Linux ripped off Unix, and hell, Windows 2k ripped off NT, and XP ripped off both of them. I hope for the sake of humanity, that you are sterile.
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#3.6 Posted by JaggedFlame on 13 Dec 2002 - 00:15
- [neoquote=#3.3 by azazel-]Sorry that you're so easily confused. I picked it up in about 10 minutes. Maybe it was the big bold black text blatantly displaying the name of the program currently running, I dunno. Guess you have special needs. The apple menu (now) is used to shutdown the system or put it to sleep. It *did* just recently change. Nice of you to keep up with the times. Not as useful as the system watching what I'm doing and telling me what I most frequently run, or letting me decide what I want to have the quickest access to *on my own*. Thank god for windows. I was too stupid to know what I frequently run...but now, I've got windows to remind me! Yay! Dunno about the User Accounts -System Preferences Panel- (sorry, its not windoze, open that rustly little mind of yours), since I have 640 megs of ram and it opens in 2-3 seconds. As if running *anything* on XP with 128 megs of ram isn't enough to make you want to gnaw through your wrist. Right. Sure.
Your blatant fanboyism isn't being hidden behind that pseudo-intellectual facade anymore, so you can drop it any time. You like Windows, good for you. But don't jump in when I'm correcting glaring innaccuracies with your pointless MS lust. It's pretty pathetic, especially when it is so easily recognized and cast aside. Now I'll let you get back to jerking off on your XP jewel case, since I know you're probably getting that urge again.
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I don't care if you picked it up in ten minutes. I probably could, too. The fact is, however, that it doesn't make sense. You can praise Apple for making a GUI that you can use, but that's not automatically characteristic of innovation. I also fail to see how it proves that Microsoft's GUI sucks.
Big black bold text. In the upper right corner of the screen. It might work for you, but it doesn't work for me. I'd rather see a constant-sized, non-moving list of programs on the bottom of my screen. And shut up about how that's an idiotic choice. That's the way some people like it. The point is, that's innovation. I haven't seen any other OS before Windows that looked like that.
We can argue all day about what aspects of what operating systems are copying and which are innovation, but that's retarded. Both operating systems are original enough to be viable choices in the field, and that's enough for me.
2-3 seconds on 640 MB of RAM is horrible. I can load up just about any program on my computer within a couple seconds, so a little control panel applet is no problem (I just timed it on XP, and it's less than one second). And before you ask, yes, I do have 640 MB of RAM. I used to have 128, and XP was just as usable.
Yeah, letting the system show me my frequently used programs is pretty useful, really. It's better than wading through an entire Start menu. It's better than using my desktop. You're not the only user out there. Speaking of special needs, you seem to be a user who has them.
Blatant fanboyism? Okay, fine. A list of Microsoft flaws:
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[*].NET's name sucks.[/*]
[*].NET's marketing sucks.[/*]
[*]My Services was a failure.[/*]
[*]Windows Product Activation.[/*]
[*]They don't explain Palladium enough.[/*]
[*]Sometimes, after using the computer for a while, tooltips aren't always on top and I can't read them in XP.[/*]
[*]Windows Media Player 9 movies only run in WMP 9.[/*]
[*]MSN Hotmail costs too much money for students.[/*]
[*]Microsoft Encarta barely changes, but we have to keep paying for it to receive recent content updates.[/*]
[*]Microsoft Word has an annoying angle brackets feature outside my document margins that I can't get rid of.[/*]
[*]Windows XP Home is pointless.[/*]
[*]IIS on Windows XP and 2000 Professional is limited to 10 connections, which isn't enough for my personal website.[/*]
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Are you frickin' satisfied now? Yes, I know Microsoft's flaws, but in your own words, don't jump in when I'm correcting glaring inaccuracies with your (1) erroneous character judgment and (2) non-Microsoft fanboyism. Jerking off on an XP jewel case? Is that the damn best you can do? God, what a damned retard. I'm smart enough to make my own damned decisions, and if my decision is to use Microsoft products because I see value in them, that's (1) none of your goddamned business and (2) far from "lust". I also run Linux and FreeBSD (and have stated this multiple times), so you either can't read or you're choosing to ignore it (I choose the latter).
You can't even argue anymore. You're letting your adrenaline rush to your damn head to the point of complete lunacy. And you're supposed to be twice as old as me? Whatever. You can cast aside my "pseudo-intellectual facade," but that'd just mean you're a hypocrite who refuses to believe that people can argue at the same intelligence level as he can.
Go take a year or two off, and come back. Maybe you'll be as rational, cool, and full of sense as you were last year. I liked talking to you last year. I don't know what the hell happened to you in the last year, but it's not pleasant. Yeah, go ahead and roll your eyes. It seems to be the only smiley you've learned to use.
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#3.7 Posted by PeterTHX on 13 Dec 2002 - 00:32
- I run WMP9 movies in WMPXP (
. I had saved Halo 2's trailer to HD. WHen I clicked "play" WMPXP went and fetched the WM9 codecs automatically. I can play any WM9.
Nice to see someone like azazel- can argue a point without getting emotional and personal and not resort to name calling. Wait a minute, he can't. Perfect example of why Apple users are seen as elitist losers, part of a cult. Getting worked up over plastic computers and an OS they had nothing to do with.
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#3.8 Posted by JaggedFlame on 13 Dec 2002 - 00:36
- I know you probably can, but for some reason, I can't. I suppose this will be fixed when Windows Media 9 Series goes final. azazel- used to be a member who stood out at Neowin. Because of this, I realize that I can't just generalize his thoughts and actions to "the Mac crowd". I know people who use Macs, try to convert me every day, and goodnaturedly back down when I refuse. They don't call me fanboys. They don't tell me to go jerk off on my jewel case. The sad part is that they're students, like me, and are probably only half the age of azazel-. This just puts the whole "older people are wiser" argument to moot.
Apple Computer has a message for people who reveal product details before the company does: We will sue
On Wednesday, the company filed a civil lawsuit against Jose Lopez, a former Apple contractor accused of leaking information about redesigned Power Mac computers released in August.
The lawsuit comes less than a month before the San Francisco Macworld Expo, where Apple is expected to unveil updated versions of many of its "i" applications. Rumors about upcoming products tend to increase as one of the two major Macworld trade shows approaches. The timing of the lawsuit may not be accidental, analysts say.
"They are clearly timing this to warn other potential leakers," said IDC analyst Roger Kay. "You make the object lesson at the right moment."
"Apple has filed a civil complaint against Jose Lopez, previously employed by Apple as a contractor, who we believe stole Apple's trade secrets by posting schematic drawings, images and engineering details of an unannounced Apple product on the Internet," the company said in a statement.
"Innovation is in Apple's DNA, so the protection of trade secrets is crucial to our success," the statement continued. "Our policy is to take legal actions where necessary to preserve the confidentiality of our intellectual property."
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