RIAA site hacked, again

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Hackers have once again disabled the Web site of the Recording Industry Association of America, a group of record labels that is leading the charge in the crackdown on online music piracy. The attack, which began Friday, has caused the site to be unavailable for three days, an RIAA representative confirmed Monday. It follows several other malicious attacks on the site last summer.

"How pathetic that those who want free music don't believe in free speech," RIAA spokeswoman Amy Weiss said in a statement. "We will continue to fight theft on the Internet and work hard to make sure that songwriters, artists and other copyright holders continue to get paid for their work."

An RIAA representative declined to speculate on who was behind the attack or the reasons for it. The site appeared to have been seized by a denial-of-service attack, the same type of problem that brought down the site in July. The RIAA is working to restore the Web site, and the FBI and United States Secret Service are investigating the attacks, according to Weiss. Such attacks are illegal under federal and state laws and carry penalties of up to five years in prison.

News source: CNet

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(1 reply) #1 rob.derosa on 28 Jan 2003 - 18:53

Die RIAA, Die

#1.1 aleks on 29 Jan 2003 - 10:40

In Soviet Russia, the RIAA hacks YOU! oh hang on...... In Capitalist America, the RIAA hacks YOU!

(1 reply) #2 Demogorgon on 28 Jan 2003 - 19:03

#2.1 Edge on 29 Jan 2003 - 05:09

LoL. Where's the upside down ROFL smilie when you need it.

(2 replies) #3 heme37 on 28 Jan 2003 - 19:19

That's funny how the RIAA defends itself by claiming that they are protecting the songwriters and artists ability to make money, but just how much of that $20 you just spent for a CD goes to the artist? Here's a novel idea - drop the prices on CDs so people don't have to sell a kidney to buy one and maybe your sales will improve. This angers me about as much as pay hundreds of dollars for a Windows CD, just to have to spend 20% installing patches and work-arounds just to get that damn thing to check my email. Not to mention in a year or two they'll change some of the UI features,enhance a couple of their programs, and fix a couple hundred bugs from the last version (meanwhile creating hundreds more bugs), and then I'll be expected to pay another couple hundred dollars if I wanna stay semi-current. The least the RIAA or Microsoft could do when they plan on screwing us over is hand out complimentary butt-lube.

#3.1 Eduardo on 28 Jan 2003 - 21:02

Yes, I was thinking the same, protect the artists, yeah, right

#3.2 Geronimo on 28 Jan 2003 - 22:31

Man i remember when CDs first came out they were the same cost or lower in some instances them the tapes. Especially when you consider that most CDs on cost a few cents to stamp at the volume they do. I know there is other cost in promotion but it does add up to why the CDs cost as much as they do.

#4 dismuter on 28 Jan 2003 - 19:19

[quote]FBI and United States Secret Service are investigating the attacks[/quote] Well it looks like the RIAA is being bullied around, and the bullies are in trouble.

(2 replies) #5 Tager on 28 Jan 2003 - 19:19

[quote]Such attacks are illegal under federal and state laws[/quote] So what if the attacks were from outside US borders? What can they do? I hate it when the US govt start thinking their laws have worldwide coverage.

#5.1 dismuter on 28 Jan 2003 - 19:22

Well the attackers attacked a server in America so it's as if they did it on US ground.

<- yeah these guys mean that I'm not really sure myself

#5.2 Marshalus on 28 Jan 2003 - 19:26

Almost every other country has these laws as well, and they would be able to extradite them to the US or have them tried in their country of origin.

(2 replies) #6 bunnios on 28 Jan 2003 - 19:27

[quote] "How pathetic that those who want free music don't believe in free speech," RIAA spokeswoman Amy Weiss said in a statement. "We will continue to fight theft on the Internet and work hard to make sure that songwriters, artists and other copyright holders continue to get paid for their work." [/quote] Hmmm, the RIAA dont believe in 'free music' so it follows that they don't believe in free speech either ......

, or perhaps she is insinuating that music pirates are terrorists, (because terrorists hate freedom you know

)

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#6.1 j0n on 28 Jan 2003 - 20:36

haha yeh, riaa cant lecture us what-so-ever on the virtues of free speech when the majority of their recent 'projects' have gone against the first amendment...

#6.2 j0n on 28 Jan 2003 - 20:43

double post..

#7 DigitalDude on 28 Jan 2003 - 20:30

fuck the riaa

#8 Mysterio on 28 Jan 2003 - 20:42

kewl...file suit against the SAME people you're trying to sell your product to....very well thought of...I bet they burned the candle from BOTH ends coming up with that "solution"...REGARDLESS of what fricking law they use to justify charging the kinds of prices they already do....YOU WILL NEVER...I REPEAT, NEVER!!! be able to stop the tech savy crowd. N E V E R ! ! !

#9 Homie on 28 Jan 2003 - 20:46

couldint this have been that worm that took down like a third of the net?

#10 Panorama on 28 Jan 2003 - 21:18

Ah go cry to your moms RIAA.

#11 Chicane-UK on 28 Jan 2003 - 21:33

Oh man, thats too funny. They need to sack their webmaster!

#12 CheeseCow on 28 Jan 2003 - 21:36

Are there any mirrors up? I wanna see

#13 jkuy9 on 28 Jan 2003 - 22:06

LMAO! I am actually laughing my head of right now! I have had a crap day and I feel sick but this has just really cheered me up. The RIAA getting hacked never gets boring. Well done to whoever keeps doing it lol

#14 puredeath on 28 Jan 2003 - 22:45

"How pathetic that those who want free music don't believe in free speech" Uhmmm, but we believe in freedom of expression... And I'd like to express my hatred for these words in spite of free speech, or something.

That's how RIAA thinks. It thinks backwards, and thus, it will ultimately fail. Our generation has moved beyond material things. Music is a physical phenomenon. Just like the CD generation killed audio cassettes, and cassettes killed 8-track, digital music will succeed, and we shall all see the demise of the CD generation!!! No more will we be told what we can and connot listen to! No more shall honest artist be deprived of his/her deserved share of revenue, so that one greedy corporate head can buy his 6th boat. File Sharing Revolution has begun, just make sure you are on the right side!

#15 Avada on 28 Jan 2003 - 22:45

"How pathetic that those who want free music don't believe in free speech," What a joke, thats exactly whats being applied here. Our abilitly to share music on the web is being affected and people are showing how they feel about it....

(2 replies) #16 puredeath on 28 Jan 2003 - 22:47

#16.1 LiGhTfast on 28 Jan 2003 - 23:02

agreed m8, cds are dead now imho... there like floppys disks ( good for transporting files and booting windows) havent used a music cd in along time tbh, i dont even have a cdplayer/hifi anymore

#16.2 Joshie on 29 Jan 2003 - 10:18

Moved beyond material things? Me thinks someone's getting a little carried away in his own speech. ;P It's hard to look at a generation that's eating and buying more than ever and say they've been enlightened or something. :]

#17 Gweedo on 28 Jan 2003 - 23:07

LOL. How many is that now?

#18 SMG on 28 Jan 2003 - 23:13

How pathetic that those who want free music don't believe in free speech," [b]I want free music and I believe in free speech[/b], I don't know how they can back up such a generalisation unless they went to all those who want free music and then asked them if they believed in free speech. And the RIAA doesn't believe in free speech either because they dont want music to be free to those who want to hear it and taking people to court is surely a bit extreme for just 'free speech'!

#19 puckmaster87 on 28 Jan 2003 - 23:29

hehehehehehehehehehehehehe!!! Stupid RIAA!! They make their servers hackable on purpose! idiots

(1 reply) #20 Glen on 29 Jan 2003 - 00:02

Do we have ANY musicians in this forum? I'm just curious how much of the $$ spent on CDs actually goes to the artist. I've read that in most music deals, the artist generally gets nothing until the 3rd or 4th recording, and then only if they all sell big. Screw the RIAA. The times, they are a changin'!

#20.1 supernova_00 on 29 Jan 2003 - 01:36

I've read before that the musicians only get like a dollar or two from each cd. The high costs for a cd include markup rates from the stores and promotion and stuff. Even though i hardly ever see promotions for cd's. Most stores markup about 40 to 70 percent. Meaning if the store pays a dollar for a cd they charge the consumer 4.00 to 7.00 dollars for the cd

So it is also the stores faults for the high prices. Dont get me wrong though...I HATE THE RIAA!

#21 Mr. Black on 29 Jan 2003 - 00:38

The RIAA has no clue about any damn thing - all the others posting "About how they think backwards", I believe that. Their press and PR staff have no clue about P2P networks except the sh1t that that fat a$$ hillary rosen feeds them...they probably don't even know how to Search for a file on a damn P2P network...

#22 Andrey on 29 Jan 2003 - 04:25

This very much reminds when HP was sued in Germany for selling CD-RW drives. The case was about copying and sharing CDs. Did gov't got anywhere with that case? Not really... Is technology still advances at the rate it was advancing before the court? Of course! Instead of sueing, RIAA should come up with clever ideas of delivering unique contest which is not available on CDs or contest which can't be swapped online. Simply shutting off Napster, Morpheus, Kazaa, etc.. won't stop music swapping on the web.

#23 King_John on 29 Jan 2003 - 05:16

"How pathetic that those who want free music don't believe in free speech" The hacker was using his right to free speech when (if) he posted a new file on the site.

(1 reply) #24 Jonny6pak on 29 Jan 2003 - 07:12

Glen: Ok, here's how artists get money from albums...the system used to decided how much one get's for a cd sale is refered to as a points system. Think of it as a percentage system. Some of the points go to the producers, some go to the artists, some go to the record company, etc. After all is said and done, unless a group is huge, they don't often get many points. No record company would ever give an artist the majority of points on an album unless they know they could get a return on their investment without the points. The record company will take the majority of points to pay for recording costs, pressing and distro, promotion, etc. That's in all reality, pretty fair. When an artist starts selling more, they can re-negotiate their contract and get more cash. Now the big thing is that no one but the reseller is making money off of a CD sold for $20. The distributor will sell the CD's to the reseller for a lower cost. The price of that lower cost is what goes to the people who own points on an album. The big enemy is not only the recording industry, but Sam Goody and such. Everyone involved factors into why a CD costs so much--especially the reseller. The reseller is out to make the big profit and they have high base prices to do this. All in all, an artist who is not toping the charts will never make big bucks off a CD...they make money off of merchandising, touring, and endorsments. But remember that if no one buys and artist's CD's, the label can't get a return on their investment, or even break even, and the artisit will be dropped. If an artist is dropped, they can't sell t-shirts and pepsi and will go broke. They will have to get day jobs again and won't be putting music into your winamp player. So, as a musician, keep the free music going, but if you find something you like, go buy it so that way everyone working hard to keep your ears happy can continue to produce music. If you decide to keep something on your hard drive so you can listen to it more then a few times...you should probably go buy a copy of the music. As for the free music and free speach thing going on....free speech is the right for one to say what one feels. When a person shuts down a web site, they are censoring it and acting aginst free speech. As a musician I am very much against censorship...even if it is agains unliked groups like the RIAA. Free music on the other hand is simply the right to get music without having to pay for it. That's a totally different thing. One is freedom of thought and expression, the other is a freedom from strain on a wallet. I don't see how they are related. Digital music on the net is great and I think it should continue as long as we continue to support artists. Free music allows us to listen to what we want, when we want, and without Clear Channel telling us it's good. Support the artisits, show the RIAA that you support the artists, and quit listening to corprate controlled radio. When this happens everyone will all gain from the benefits of digital music and we'll begin to see some great things happen in the world of music and art in general.

#24.1 uRdED on 29 Jan 2003 - 13:20

[neoquote=#24.0 by Jonny6pak] The record company will take the majority of points to pay for recording costs, pressing and distro, promotion, etc. That's in all reality, pretty fair.[/neoquote] Funny, everything I've ever read claimed that the Record Co actually bills the Artist for these costs. Guess things really are changing....LOL.

#25 hunter1234 on 29 Jan 2003 - 08:23

AHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA!!!

#26 dhavalhirdhav on 29 Jan 2003 - 11:42

I think RIAA is training tool for the hackers.. its getting hacked now and then..

#27 Zelpus on 29 Jan 2003 - 17:47

Anyone have the link to this one? I have been collecting all the times they got hacked lol

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