AMD delays 64-bit Athlon chip
Posted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 31 January 2003 - 15:25 · 21 comments & 867 views
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#1 Posted by Guspaz on 31 Jan 2003 - 15:35
- AMD is stretching here, and their fastest processors are a horrible ripoff currently, almost as much as their P4 equivs. AMD is digging themselves in deeper and deeper; unless they get the Athlon 64 to market SOON, they're screwed. They want to have a 3200+ later this year? No problem, Intel will have a 3.5 or 4.0 by then.
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#1.1 Posted by xStainDx on 31 Jan 2003 - 16:44
- Looking at the roadmaps, the only thing that will be around from Intel in september will be a full line of Hyperthreaded Procs.. From 2.4-3Ghz + 3.2Ghz will be out as well. But the killer IMO is the 800MHz Frontside Bus. That will come from Springdale and Canterwood. (i865P and i875PE)
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#1.2 Posted by GamblerFEXonlin on 02 Feb 2003 - 02:44
- will amd's 64bit cpu include the TCPA feature? [url]http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq-0.2.html[/url] [url]http://www.ftp.cl.cam.ac.uk/ftp/users/rja14/lucky[/url]
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#2 Posted by g33kb0y on 31 Jan 2003 - 16:15
- I, for one, am upset. I was planning an Athlon64 getting one when it was released in March/April. I'm not sure I feel like waiting until September. I think I might purchase myself a nice ol' P4 3.06ghz with Hyperthreading. Maybe.
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#3 Posted by JaggedFlame on 31 Jan 2003 - 16:17
- September? Screw this, I'm saving up for a Pentium.
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#4 Posted by macrosslover on 31 Jan 2003 - 16:27
- sorry AMD, my next chip is going to be a P4 or P5 prescott. you took too long.
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#4.1 Posted by vacs on 31 Jan 2003 - 18:38
- maybe that is a good decision. The Prescott will probably have no difficulties to overperform an Athlon64 with 256kb and 512kb L2 cache in any speed rating... and as it looks like currently, the Prescott will be much cheaper than a Athlon64. BTW. The Prescott CPU is still a P4!
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#4.2 Posted by macrosslover on 31 Jan 2003 - 20:09
- [neoquote=#4.1 by vacs]maybe that is a good decision. The Prescott will probably have no difficulties to overperform an Athlon64 with 256kb and 512kb L2 cache in any speed rating... and as it looks like currently, the Prescott will be much cheaper than a Athlon64. BTW. The Prescott CPU is still a P4![/neoquote] i thought the rumor was that it might be the p5
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#5 Posted by xStainDx on 31 Jan 2003 - 16:42
- Seee Boys and Girls..... This is Why you choose the Market Segment Leader!! Intel!!
Me Gets ready for Canterwood w/ Prescott and 800MHz FSB!!!
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#6 Posted by rob.derosa on 31 Jan 2003 - 16:50
- AMD sucks IMO.
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#7 Posted by warr on 31 Jan 2003 - 16:52
- that is AMD's weak point. always delay. actually this Hector Cruz really sucks. since he took office, AMD hasn't been doing well.
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#8 Posted by guinnessman on 31 Jan 2003 - 17:55
- What a shocker, yet another delay from AMD, if they don't get their act together in the next quarter or two, they are going to be royally screwed.
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#8.1 Posted by ir0nw0lf on 31 Jan 2003 - 19:11
- I seriously doubt it, all the Intelzealots said the same thing last year at least once. Athlon XP 2400/2600/2700/2800's are flying off shelves nearly as fast as they get on them. Intel wants way too much for a Granite Bay motherboard vs. a Nforce2 board, making the equivalent dual-DDR setup cheaper AMD-wise. The Barton 3000 I am sure will more than hold its own against a P4 3.06.
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#8.2 Posted by superfula on 31 Jan 2003 - 22:48
- [neoquote=#8.1 by ir0nw0lf]I seriously doubt it, all the Intelzealots said the same thing last year at least once. Athlon XP 2400/2600/2700/2800's are flying off shelves nearly as fast as they get on them. Intel wants way too much for a Granite Bay motherboard vs. a Nforce2 board, making the equivalent dual-DDR setup cheaper AMD-wise. The Barton 3000 I am sure will more than hold its own against a P4 3.06.[/neoquote] Flying off the shelves you say? Any sources to back that up? Didn't think so... AMD's market share has done nothing but drop the past year or so
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#8.3 Posted by vacs on 31 Jan 2003 - 23:10
- hm, the 2800 is outsold since november last year! The 2700 is very hard to get but not impossible, only the 2400 and the 2600 are now almost everywhere available. So, almost everything which has been predicted last year with the Athlon availability has come true...
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#8.4 Posted by GamblerFEXonlin on 02 Feb 2003 - 02:38
- I just got me the asus nforce 2 (deluxe) board and a xp 2400 and some twinmos 3200 w/winbond chip ram. The cool this is the xp2400 (and higher I belive) is unlocked with the bios on this board. that means if the cpu dont overclock as much as you want, you can still boost the FSB and ram to 400mhz speeds... Ill probably run it at 12x211(422ddr)=2500mhz, that is a xp3000 marking! I also got a coolermaster atc 210 verdant to match, prettiest case ever (im sick of all the childish cases with windows and neon-lights. it was a little cool when you did it yourself and was the only one on a lan party with it, but now you can buy pre-made window-doors for almost every case). http://217.8.136.112/root/upgrade_2003-02/
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#9 Posted by vacs on 31 Jan 2003 - 18:35
- hehe, good old AMD, it's always the same with them, they never learn... Why did AMD state in Oktober last year that the Hammer was perfectly stable and ready to be released, just to announce another delay? I wonder when AMD will admit that they won't release a 0.90 micron dieshrink of the Hammer CPU in Q4 2003 as shown on current roadmaps? But it's always good for the stock exchange to annouce delays as late as possible...
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#10 Posted by username on 31 Jan 2003 - 19:55
- big deal, the Athlon 64 delayed but you get the Bartons which look to perform just as well... yeah everyone was looking forward to the Athlon 64... I will probably still wait
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#11 Posted by hardgiant on 31 Jan 2003 - 20:18
- In August they will delay them yet agian to December....
Truthfully they won't be worth it when you can buy 3 ghz P4 with HT for $200 by then. I bet Intel will be running at 4 Ghz by then and a 2.0 ghz Athlon 64 is going to look sad in comparison from a marketing point of view.
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#12 Posted by Eldoen on 31 Jan 2003 - 23:47
- to tell you the truth, I was going to wait for the die shrink version of the Hammer chips in the first place. So the delay to Sept doesn't really bother me. as long as they still put out one in early 2004. Barton will be a good upgade from the 1600+ I have right now when the time comes to build my next system, I will evaluate the landscape of things then. I do wonder if the Dual Opteron (the clawhammer version of the opteron series) will still be released in march april timeframe. I just hope that more of the southbridges improve their offerings that is what is holding me back from upgrading right now. No Firewire 800 support yet for instances. very little sata 150 support, (will probably wait until the fall for the Sata II 150 extension though anyway) El
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#13 Posted by upsilon on 01 Feb 2003 - 05:44
- and i thought paper launches were stupid, this takes the cake, wouldnt be surprised if AMD goes under before they can release the clawhammer.
Also cant they think of a better excuse than, if all else fails blame microsoft (INQ says AMD is saying they are delaying due to the lack of 64 bit OS :rolleyes
The company has indicated that its main priority right now is the new 64-bit Opteron processor for servers. That chip will be the keystone of AMD's 2003 strategy to push further into the business market and compete with Intel. Opteron is on track and is set to officially debut on April 22 in New York City. Meanwhile, AMD plans to try to keep desktop customers happy with a new Athlon XP chip. The chipmaker, as expected, is scheduled to introduce an Athlon XP 3000+ processor on Feb. 10. It plans to have a 3200+ chip by the middle of the year.
AMD has not yet disclosed the clock speed of the 3000+ chip. The Athlon XP rating number indicates its performance in comparison with a previous version of the Athlon chip. However, the model number is also designed to reflect that the chip performs as well or better than a corresponding Intel Pentium 4. The 3000+ chip, therefore, is equivalent to a 3.06GHz Pentium 4, AMD would assert. The 3000+ chip will be AMD's first processor based on its new "Barton" core, which adds a larger 512KB cache and supports a faster bus. These features increase performance by holding larger amounts data close to the processor core and speeding up the pathway for data transfer to and from the chip. That extra performance is what allowed AMD to boost the model's rating number.