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Apple cuts prices but Dell spectre looms

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 10 April 2003 - 08:33 · 12 comments & 967 views

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IN A MOVE apparently intended to win back market losses to Dell, Apple has cut prices on their eMac machines to $699 for educators, $779 for normal buyers. This, according to Apple's resident PR monkeys, buys the lucky customer a "stunning" (their words) 17-inch CRT, 128 MB of RAM, a 700MHz G4, and a 40 GB HDD, and a standard CD-ROM.

Not a bad offer from Cupertino, but it doesn't seem to be the kind of deal that's going to win back many buyers who've decided to become Evil PC People. Dell's own 2350 series, after all, can be configured with a P4 Celeron 2.0, a full 512 meg of DDR RAM, a 60 Gb HDD, 48X CD-RW, and a 17" CRT. We don't know if the Dell CRT is as "stunning" as the Apple version, but it certainly seems better value — the entire Dell package ships at $749 — and dropping the included RAM to 256 meg would put the Dell box at a lower cost for a much more powerful overall package.

It may be that Apple is fated to lose the education market in the end just as it's lost every other market they once possessed. Educators choosing to go with Apple or Dell ultimately have to decide whether to use a system they might prefer — or to offer computer instruction on the computers students are going to be using in their professional lives.

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#1 macrosslover on 10 Apr 2003 - 09:50
oh wow that's really going to help. improve the performance ALOT more and you got yourself a deal. everybody, even schools, want bang for their buck. i can't speak for every school, but i know at mine's there's a section of macs, and all the other computers are wintel. the Macs NEVER get used, they literally gather dust. that's wasted money and wasted space that the ITD department could have spent on Dells (we use those) that people would have used.
(1 reply) #2 kairon on 10 Apr 2003 - 10:05
you make a good point macrosslover, but most schools don't care about the best available computer as long as it does what they want, and has easy administration and troubleshooting (could you say that for 200 PC? No!)
#2.1 PeterTHX on 11 Apr 2003 - 00:08
As a school administrator with 530 PCs (in just one lab) I CAN say YES. We also have 73 Macs. Guess which ones give us more trouble? Can we open a iMac and troubleshoot? Swap cards? Not to mention all the "kids" (it's a college) who use PCs at home and try to make their floppies work, destroying their data because the Macs HAVE to write crap every time their mounted. Or people complaining that their windows won't open because closing the window doesn't CLOSE THE PROGRAM...etc Real world, dude.
(2 replies) #3 Chicane-UK on 10 Apr 2003 - 10:44
I thought eMac had a 17" LCD screen.. not a CRT?
#3.1 jardragon901 on 10 Apr 2003 - 10:50
no thats the iMac, the eMac is a scaled down version of a mac that is like the old iMacs.
#3.2 mr_da3m0n on 10 Apr 2003 - 12:19
Oh yeaaaaaah I remember now. The ugly one, right?
#4 antsy on 10 Apr 2003 - 12:33
128MB RAM WTF?
#5 surgtech on 10 Apr 2003 - 13:24
dell has a 2350 with a P4 2.0ghz, 15" flat screen 128 meg of ram, 60G HDD and a cdrom and a cdrw for $849 then a $150 rebate after that.
#6 OptiPlex on 10 Apr 2003 - 20:55
Dell pwns
#7 Esoteric on 10 Apr 2003 - 22:41
I wish at my school we had Dells and such, but the stupid schools use Macs and they suck so much. Also who ever uses Mac's anymore!? And kairon....most kids these days know how to use PC's really well and adults so I dont think that administration would be a problem...
#8 Colonel Sanders on 10 Apr 2003 - 22:59
"where unprofessional journalism looks better", this comment fits the description of the news post. A little objectivity please. Also, the move may not be to gain back market lost to Dell, but rather to clear out old stock, to either phase out the product or offer a new one.
#9 nummi on 11 Apr 2003 - 12:20
Esoteric: "I wish at my school we had Dells and such, but the stupid schools use Macs and they suck so much. Also who ever uses Mac's anymore!?" Guess what, you suck. You stupid person. What kind of Macs do you have at school? Old PowerMacs running with 604e chips, or early G3s with MacOS 8 on them. We have iMacs with OS X running on them at my school. People are happy. No crashes. Easy to admin and keep clean. We also have PCs for our computer concepts class, Powerpoint, and other misc classes. The iMacs make them look like GameBoys powered by hampster wheels.. I use Macs. I have 5 at home. I also have 3 PCs. One running Windows 98, one running Windows XP, and another running Red Hat Linux. The graphic design studio that my Dad works at uses Macs. Apple sold over 700,000 Macs last year. I know in the grand scheme of things that does not seem very impressive, but that proves that people still use Macs. I know I have more experience than you do with other platforms. So I know more ubout the pros and cons of each platform. Don't say "macs suck, they are stupid". Becuase they don't. When you say that, it only shows how stupid you are.

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