Windows Longhorn UI Videos and Screenshots

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That's right folks, a Japanese site has (bravely) posted some screenshots and video footage of the new UI features in Longhorn and exactly how it behaves. You can see from the screenshots and videos that the Windows in Longhorn can be stretched, flipped and spun around. At the end of the screenshots and videos is a note to show this is infact build 4015. Indicating this kind of UI is already available in Longhorn builds at the moment. However this build is different to the build that leaked to the internet a few weeks ago, this is a Lab6 build whereas the leaked edition is a main build.

The shots and videos show that core to Longhorn itself is the element of it's new UI developing. The fact DX9 can handle this kind of animation and the animation we have seen in technologies like the slideshow on the sidebar is amazing. As Longhorn is currently at Milestone 5 I am sure between now and Milestone 7 we'll see these kind of animation features of the next Windows even more. I'm not sure if we'll see these kind of windows animation features for the final product but this is a demonstration of just how powerful the animation effects in Longhorn will be.

Screenshot: Calculator Stretched (minimal processor usage)

Screenshot: Calculator Standalone (minimal processor usage)

Video: View window stretching video

Video: View animation on top of the OS

Video: View Picture slideshow in animation

Video: View Windows doing the twist

Screenshot: Confirmation of build 4015

View: View Japanese site PC Watch

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(1 reply) #1 Germano on 09 May 2003 - 00:05

[URL=http://koppit.mine.nu/irc/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=31]Longhorn Beta Program Starting[/URL] lolol, someone stills believes in it.

#1.1 Krome on 09 May 2003 - 05:15

Yeah and the Source says it's from NeoWin.. hmmm...

#2 JustinSaneLBS on 09 May 2003 - 00:05

Thats pretty cool. And it looks nice, but what practical use does this have? Or is it just to look nice and pretty? (Not that i have a problem with that

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#3 Spidoinkel on 09 May 2003 - 00:07

/me reinstalls lh4015 lets see some magic!

#4 username on 09 May 2003 - 00:11

thats Fing cool man looks like it has some work to be done on the upper corners but they have planty of time to work on it

#5 =NickJ= on 09 May 2003 - 00:12

man thats sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

#6 SHoTTa35 on 09 May 2003 - 00:16

yeah, sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Someone get me a new keyboard, i broke this one...

#7 neostyle on 09 May 2003 - 00:20

creamhackered is fast . lol

(1 reply) #8 btallack on 09 May 2003 - 00:21

Do some of these animations seem Mac-esq to anyone else?

#8.1 Krome on 09 May 2003 - 05:16

Why everything has to go to Mac? Are you new with computers? Mac has stole tons of ideas from computing world and claim as theirs...

#9 rossiknol on 09 May 2003 - 00:22

I really really like what I see, but I feel cheated that the wealthiest company in the world creates something SO similar to what Apple has done with Mac OS X. They have so much more money than the competition, and I really was hoping they'd use some of it to develop a revolutionary GUI.

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(1 reply) #10 slang123 on 09 May 2003 - 00:25

"Do some of these animations seem Mac-esq to anyone else?" sinse wen does something good have to be anything to do with mac? (mac sucks) this is cool, i cant wait to see whats to come

#10.1 nookadum on 09 May 2003 - 05:36

And yet another retarded troll comes around the corner.

(1 reply) #11 Webgraph on 09 May 2003 - 00:27

Looks neat, but it shows how f***ing ridiculous technology is getting. If only I could figure out the Net problem in Mandrake 9.1 and if only no one else had to use my computer, then I'd go back to Linux from XP with SP1a. Why can't they keep this simple?

#11.1 JaggedFlame on 09 May 2003 - 00:43

What's so ridiculous about the technology? If you're into Linux because of the technology, you're not going to get what you expected with its decentralization. You'd be better off with Apple or Microsoft.

#12 Quick Reply on 09 May 2003 - 00:29

way cool, im gonna download it when i get home

and in the last screenshot, they have the same keyboard and mouse that I'm using now

#13 LurkerHere on 09 May 2003 - 00:31

how do you do this in lh 4015 ? i'm also figured out how to install DX9.0a on it also

(1 reply) #14 creamhackered on 09 May 2003 - 00:35

Read the article again, the build on the internet is different to the build shown in this demo.

#14.1 LurkerHere on 09 May 2003 - 00:41

what's the difference between Lab6 and Main ?

(1 reply) #15 Germano on 09 May 2003 - 00:35

[B]However this build is [U]different[/U] to the build that leaked to the internet a few weeks ago, this is a [U]Lab6[/U] build whereas the leaked edition is a main build.[/B] [i]-edit: eheh, creamhackered posted the same thing at the same time...[/i]

#15.1 neostyle on 09 May 2003 - 00:42

yeah its lab06_n.030403-1706

(5 replies) #16 jedimasterk on 09 May 2003 - 00:40

A Mac OSX ripoff. Not a MS innovation!!.

#16.1 als345 on 09 May 2003 - 02:15

Right

#16.2 nookadum on 09 May 2003 - 05:37

[neoquote=#16.0 by jedimasterk]A Mac OSX ripoff. Not a MS innovation!!.[/neoquote] Doesn't matter, as along as it looks nice and works.

#16.3 jkuy9 on 09 May 2003 - 12:24

So Apple stole the idea for a GUI from Xerox Parc years ago, at least Microsoft buys the companies whos technology it wants the dont just steal it, change it a little and then release it under a new name. Also mac has none of these features, the only thing which is similar is the way the window glide however windows has a feature like this (windows anonimations) WAY before apple did

#16.4 unspec on 09 May 2003 - 12:45

I suggest you look into the "Apple stole the GUI from Xerox" thing before waxing lyrical. You may make more of a point that way.

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#16.5 jkuy9 on 09 May 2003 - 21:10

I work for Xerox so I know the whole story. I know it is partly Xerox's fault however Apple still used the ideas without permission.

(1 reply) #17 Scoop on 09 May 2003 - 00:42

This is the same presentation of Longhorn @ WinHEC on monday as the one Paul Thurrott has been to. So I guess we will see some of the same actions on pictures at winsupersite later this week.

#17.1 neostyle on 09 May 2003 - 00:46

he showed a shot of this presentation at his site and took it down later . but the above mentioned site has won the race

(3 replies) #18 sodapop on 09 May 2003 - 00:44

What use does this have? I just want something that works. I don't give two hoots about how it looks lol.

#18.1 creamhackered on 09 May 2003 - 00:46

You can spin the windows! weee. lol. I doubt this will actually be implemented for final. They are probably working out what to actually do with it at the moment

#18.2 nookadum on 09 May 2003 - 05:39

[neoquote=#18.0 by sodapop]What use does this have? I just want something that works. I don't give two hoots about how it looks lol.[/neoquote] Well other people are concerned with the way it looks too.

#18.3 Fanon on 09 May 2003 - 22:22

/me points to DOS. If you don't care how it looks, use it. It works.

(1 reply) #19 LurkerHere on 09 May 2003 - 00:46

what's the difference between lab6 and Main ?

#19.1 jkuy9 on 09 May 2003 - 12:27

I can't be 100% however where I work a lab (or internal department specific build) will have features that department (lab) has been working on built into there build. A main build is a collection of the latest source released by the developers and then built into 1 big main build. So a lab build will be lab specific, lab6 is probably the new GUI technology department.

(2 replies) #20 kairon on 09 May 2003 - 00:46

Exactly #17, that window caught in minimizing is EXACTLY like the Genie Effect from Apple. Man, what a ripoff.

#20.1 slang123 on 09 May 2003 - 00:59

[neoquote=#20.0 by kairon]Exactly #17, that window caught in minimizing is EXACTLY like the Genie Effect from Apple. Man, what a ripoff.[/neoquote] But no1 gives a rats@$$ about apple

#20.2 nacs on 09 May 2003 - 07:28

[neoquote=#20.1 by slang123]But no1 gives a rats@$$ about apple[/neoquote] I do. Stop trolling.

(16 replies) #21 Dessimat0r on 09 May 2003 - 00:46

God, this is stupid... Who would want spinning windows and stuff? What you need, perhaps, is some particles coming off the taskbar when something is minimised. All modern graphics cards have programmable particle creators.

#21.1 JaggedFlame on 09 May 2003 - 01:10

God, [i]you[/i] are stupid. Would you at least wait until it gets out of the concept stage to call it retarded?

#21.2 insurgent on 09 May 2003 - 01:34

Good atitude, and nice insults.

#21.3 Dessimat0r on 09 May 2003 - 01:59

I assume that you can think of a use for spinning windows? I did suggest another feature, but it seems that everyone is out to get me on Neowin. EDIT: I suppose it would make for a nice screensaver

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#21.4 JaggedFlame on 09 May 2003 - 03:31

insurgent, coming from you and your own fatalistic attitude, that doesn't mean much.

Sorry, Dessimat0r. I guess I've had it with people judging things as if they were the final version when they're still in the concept stage. I'm pretty sure they'll think of something appealing, though. Keep in mind this probably hasn't gotten past any GUI experts yet; they're probably still experimenting with cool stuff.

#21.5 JaggedFlame on 09 May 2003 - 03:33

By the way, insurgent, remember back when you said that you had it up to here with PC people invading the Mac forums, and that you wouldn't ever see any Mac users come in a PC thread and start flaming it? Still stand by that statement?

#21.6 nookadum on 09 May 2003 - 05:41

You mean like that troll slang123? Heh.

#21.7 jkuy9 on 09 May 2003 - 12:29

This will not be in the final code, they are just trying out things to see what there limitations are so they can work on it more. Spinning windows isnt that great however it isnt the fact that they spin it is the fact that it is possible.

#21.8 mbg on 09 May 2003 - 13:04

[neoquote=#21.3 by Dessimat0r]I assume that you can think of a use for spinning windows? I did suggest another feature, but it seems that everyone is out to get me on Neowin. EDIT: I suppose it would make for a nice screensaver

[/neoquote] It would also be an insecure screensaver

#21.9 insurgent on 09 May 2003 - 23:17

[neoquote=#21.5 by JaggedFlame]By the way, insurgent, remember back when you said that you had it up to here with PC people invading the Mac forums, and that you wouldn't ever see any Mac users come in a PC thread and start flaming it? Still stand by that statement?

[/neoquote] Actually, I'm not flaming PCs, I'm pretty much flaming you for being a rude, obnoxious assh0le, so I have pretty much just as much right to be here as you do, oh great Lord of All Things Anal. See the difference, or do I need to scrawl something on some cardboard with a crayon so that you can understand it on a more equal intellectual level?

#21.10 JaggedFlame on 10 May 2003 - 00:12

[QUOTE]Actually, I'm not flaming PCs[/QUOTE] That's great and all, but I never accused you of flaming PCs. I accused you of being a hypocrite who doesn't remember what he types two seconds after he posts it. [QUOTE]See the difference, or do I need to scrawl something on some cardboard with a crayon so that you can understand it on a more equal intellectual level?[/QUOTE] Not quite, retard. I fail to see why I should take lessons in attitude from an ignorant asshole like yourself, and so I won't. In the words of macrosslover: hypocrisy's a bitch, ain't it? You can only hope that "Lord of All Things Anal" isn't another one of the statements that exposes you for the hypocrite you are.

#21.11 insurgent on 10 May 2003 - 00:20

Hmm...maybe if anything I said in this thread had anything to do with flaming PCs, or even comparing Macs to PCs, I'd say you had a point...but I didn't. So, how am I being a hypocrite, exactly? Did you mean that, because I use a Mac, I'm not allowed to ever post anything in a PC-related thread? Is that the hypocracy? Oh, wait, you invent this crap as you go along. I forgot. You are, per ususal, a f*cking ass-hat. And with the way you and Macrosslover seem to be teaming up...I think maybe one of you might give new meaning to my phrase "Lord of All Things Anal"...and on a bed of Microsoft cds, no less. I'm sure that would be fanboy heaven for you two.

#21.12 JaggedFlame on 10 May 2003 - 00:34

[QUOTE]Hmm...maybe if anything I said in this thread had anything to do with flaming PCs, or even comparing Macs to PCs, I'd say you had a point[/QUOTE] How does that matter? You said something in another thread about how Mac users [i]never[/i] go in PC forums and flame PCs, so the PC users should stop doing it in the Mac forum. I don't care what you said in this thread. You were wrong. The fact that you won't admit it says loads about you. [QUOTE]You are, per ususal, a f*cking ass-hat.[/QUOTE] Thanks. Try http://www.wholesaler.net.nz/graphics/products/viagra 100mg.jpg when you have the time. And learn to spell "usual" right. It's a simple five-letter word. If I'm as dumb as you say I am, you really ought to raise the bar. [QUOTE]And with the way you and Macrosslover seem to be teaming up...I think maybe one of you might give new meaning to my phrase "Lord of All Things Anal"...and on a bed of Microsoft cds, no less. I'm sure that would be fanboy heaven for you two.[/QUOTE] Oh, so now two people can't agree with each other without "teaming up"? How's life "teaming up" with the most ignorant morons on the planet? Your style of "arguing" certainly seems to match theirs. You know, in your own words, "maybe if anything [you] said in this thread had anything to do with" Longhorn, you might be taken seriously. Until then, you're just some sick pervert who dreams up fetish scenarios. Try the Viagra. It'll get you past the porn for a while.

#21.13 insurgent on 10 May 2003 - 00:44

I don't see where the hell you get off saying I'm a hypocrite. Seriously. Show me where I said anything about PC's, at all, outside of the Macintosh forum. Please. If you're referring to the Bluescreen thread, that's a pretty weak argument. So, I can't say anything negative about Microsoft? Even when I'm solely talking about Microsoft and not making any comparisons whatsoever? I mean, I made the above referenced comment about PC users coming into a Mac forum and saying "Macs suck" or any other trollish comments. Was that concept that hard for you to figure out? What about if I said something bad about Linux? FreeBSD? Please tell me, what am I allowed to post so that I'm not considered by you to be a hypocrite, because I've been purposefully avoiding such threads outside of the Mac forum, and I've not made any broad-based comments about PC users. So please, explain it to me, because apparently I'm not up on the rules. Seemed to get a bit testy over the "fetish scenarios". Must have hit a nerve. So, since you brought up Viagra...do you save yours for looking at Longhorn screenshots, or when your "special friend" puts on his Bill Gates mask? And, more importantly, which one of you wears the chaps?

#21.14 JaggedFlame on 10 May 2003 - 01:04

[QUOTE]I don't see where the hell you get off saying I'm a hypocrite. Seriously. Show me where I said anything about PC's, at all, outside of the Macintosh forum.[/QUOTE] I can't show you your original post. The thread was deleted because you idiots started fighting over the PC users and Microsoft fanboys invading your forums rather than discussing the topic at hand. But assuming that post still existed, I still don't need to show you where [i]you[/i] personally said anything about PCs. You said that Mac users on this website never went into PC threads and started proclaiming the glory of Mac and its OS. Unless you're the only Mac user on this site, I rest my case. That's not to say that I really care. I'm just in the dark here as to why I should listen to you tell me about my attitude when your own is worse than that of a horse getting castrated. That's the real core of the "hypocrisy" issue. [QUOTE]So, I can't say anything negative about Microsoft?[/QUOTE] So, I can't say anything negative about you? Please. If you have the right to say something negative about Microsoft, I have the right to criticize you if you're wrong. And I think you're wrong. Especially in the BSOD thread. [QUOTE]What about if I said something bad about Linux? FreeBSD?[/QUOTE] If it's wrong, I'll criticize it. I use both enough to be able to respond to you. I somehow doubt you know anything about them, though, so unless you can prove me wrong, it's a moot point. [QUOTE]Please tell me, what am I allowed to post so that I'm not considered by you to be a hypocrite, because I've been purposefully avoiding such threads outside of the Mac forum, and I've not made any broad-based comments about PC users. So please, explain it to me, because apparently I'm not up on the rules.[/QUOTE] Again proving that you can't read. You can post whatever you want. Why the hell should I care? At the same time, I can post whatever I want. That includes calling you a hypocrite when you say something that contradicts your own actions. So, you've effectively proved yourself a hypocrite yet again by flaming me for getting up in arms about your comment, yet complaining about my responses to that comment. If you're going to say something, at least live by it yourself. [QUOTE]Seemed to get a bit testy over the "fetish scenarios". Must have hit a nerve. So, since you brought up Viagra...do you save yours for looking at Longhorn screenshots, or when your "special friend" puts on his Bill Gates mask? And, more importantly, which one of you wears the chaps?[/QUOTE] You'd sure like to know, wouldn't you? That's disgusting. I hope I never have to find out what website you went to that gave you ideas like that.

#21.15 insurgent on 10 May 2003 - 01:13

What website? Hell, it was all in your online blog [URL=http://jaggedflame.digitalrice.com/]here.[/URL] Hm...you changed the site. Must have been the pics of you and the football team...some ISP's don't like that sorta thing.

#21.16 JaggedFlame on 10 May 2003 - 01:21

Oh, so the best you can do is accuse me of having gay sex? I think you've lost this one.

#22 Scoop on 09 May 2003 - 00:48

One more thing you guys should have noticed is that this Lab_06 build has been compiled 6 days lather then the leaked main_build of 4015. This is not the first time it has been shown that lab builds has more experimental features then the main builds. But the fact that it is newer by date of compilation may also be one of the reasons for these differences.

#23 oggiethefroggie on 09 May 2003 - 01:06

soooooooooo pretty, i wonder how they'll implement this into the gui? recon the gui will look anything like the current one or be a radical change?

(2 replies) #24 Spectre on 09 May 2003 - 01:10

it's called a tech demo FFS. rotating windows will not likely be part of the final UI, it's just a demonstration of some amazing UI effects. being able to play lag-free video on a movable 3d transparent surface will greatly improve the user experience. EXAMPLE: you could project a DVD movie in a semi-transparent fashion over the entire desktop and still work in the background. and lag-free! the windows can be arbitrarily scaled as well (i don't mean regular resizing). instead of minimizing a window, you could scale it down and put it in the corner. neat? yes. and before you yell "MAC OS X", no apple computer can currently do that. animation rips off apple? i'm afraid not, because animation is a logical evolution of static images. tell me how they could upgrade the UI technology without blending and animations and i'll give you the nobel prize. think before you post.

#24.1 creamhackered on 09 May 2003 - 01:17

You could project a movie indeed, probably lag free but with about 30%-50% CPU utilization at the moment. The scaling is a very smart idea and is probably going to be in the final version for obv reasons. Glad you addressed the "you stole this from mac" people though

hehe

#24.2 ~~NeYo~~ on 09 May 2003 - 12:36

[neoquote=#24.0 by Spectre]the windows can be arbitrarily scaled as well (i don't mean regular resizing). instead of minimizing a window, you could scale it down and put it in the corner. neat? yes. and before you yell "MAC OS X", no apple computer can currently do that. [/neoquote] They can Actually! ... its called "Minimize In Place" and is still availiable in Jaguar. It was dropped from the GM Copy, but the feature is still achieved by using the Old Dock.app from the last Jaguar build it featured in ... Look .. [url]http://www.aovh17.dsl.pipex.com/hosted/mip.jpg[/url] ...its a kinda nice feature too ... As for this topic? ... i personally can say it looks mac like ... but who gives a CRAP?! .. the OS's fundamentally look alike in many ways they achieve things ... i don't use a PC now ... but why should i moan that it has some nice eye Candy? ... Computers should be a joy 2 work with ... have cool effects and so forth! ... nice to see M$ doing something like this ... altho i don't se a use for it, it looks cool

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(1 reply) #25 benjeeeboy on 09 May 2003 - 01:11

Oh, god please leak it.

#25.1 Farquaon on 09 May 2003 - 11:31

[neoquote=#25.0 by benjeeeboy]Oh, god please leak it.[/neoquote] God doesnt want to leak it, he is gonna keep it until 2005.

#26 mgorbach on 09 May 2003 - 01:23

looks nice, i can just see the longhorn frenzy moving into full strength ... wow things will get crazy when this gets leaked. gui addicts rejoice!

#27 kgraphik on 09 May 2003 - 01:32

amazing, simply, amazing. seems microsoft decided to (finally) design something visually appealling. no, i dont mean the visual style itself. im talking about the effects that theyve decided to put into longhorn. seems osx will have a little contest, graphically, against longhorn. too bad its still 2 years off and im sure by then, there should be another version of MacOS around.

#28 wtmcgee on 09 May 2003 - 01:46

they've got a ways to go before their UI is final... but right now, it's still light years behind apple's GUI. like i said though, it's obviously pre-alpha software, so they will definately do some catching up by the time it's out. nothing that would make me want to switch from a mac, though. still, nice to see the windows world getting some fun eye candy too

#29 mrk on 09 May 2003 - 01:54

Peple dont seem to get it...these animations and effects may or may not be in the final or they may be options the user can enable if they wnat to. BUT, and teh big BUT is they are showing this technology and features of DX 9 in longhorn and its capabilities to do what they are showing using minimal cpu resources as shown. They are showing the capability of longhorn at its current stage which is not even beta yet and it can do all that, imagine what the final optimised version will be bale to do. Stop flacking it because its not necesary, rip off or not no one cares really except maybe a mac owner but there isnothning about those animations that has apples name copyrighted in them so they are free to use them for demonstartive purposes if they want!

#30 ben_b on 09 May 2003 - 01:56

If anyone wonts to read the article in english there is a translated version avalible at http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?tt=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpc.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fdocs%2F2003%2F0509%2Fkaigai01.htm&lp=ja_en.

(1 reply) #31 mrk on 09 May 2003 - 01:56

Also this could mean that games using direct x 9 could be able to use seamlless switching, ie: you play a game and at the press of a button switch between windwows and game without any reloading/changing or pauses, that would be cool

#31.1 Dessimat0r on 09 May 2003 - 02:09

It depends, sometimes you'll want to play the game in a different resolution, as its too taxing on the video card.

#32 memNOC on 09 May 2003 - 02:30

as someone with some sense mentioned, this doesnt mean ANYTHING but simply to show off LH's capabilities at THIS point.. the effects you can achieve with minimum resources and the kinds of things you can do, from a programmer's viewpoint.. it DEFINITELLY does NOT mean that these stupid and useless garbage (its not even pretty) effects will be included in the final.. just think about what can be done with this, its pretty revolutionary, i'd say.. GREAT news.. i cant wait for M6! w00t!

#33 chorpeac on 09 May 2003 - 02:36

Now this is a great post on new tech. No exaggeration on the about and install screens. Some hard evidence of the new technology to make people happy!

#34 kainashi on 09 May 2003 - 03:15

the mac fanboys need to stay away from here.

#35 Davey on 09 May 2003 - 03:25

I think the mac boys have to sit down and shut up and listen. Longhorn is only in development. Release of the main OS will be probably 2005. Thats almost 2 years away and so, everything you see now, may not ne in Longhorn at final release. So 'one thing' may be similar to a way a Mac behaves, yeh ok, thats a 'TOTAL' rip off. Grow up will ya.

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#36 freeza on 09 May 2003 - 03:40

tight dude

#37 Rudy on 09 May 2003 - 03:58

i dont see why the mac fanboys are going crazy, nothing like the magic lamp shit in macos, ms is demonstrating what they achieved with the new UI for longhorn, im sure they'll blow away mac eye candy without making the machine cry

#38 iron2000 on 09 May 2003 - 04:05

Waaa... Too cool! Everything deteched and flying about.

(6 replies) #39 aristotle-dude on 09 May 2003 - 04:05

This is a ripoff of quartz extreme from Jaguar. They even use the same terminology like "compositing engine". [URL=http://www.apple.com/macosx/jaguar/quartzextreme.html]Quartz Extreme[/URL] I quote: "Everything you see on screen is the result of millions upon millions of calculations by Quartz, the revolutionary composited windowing system in Mac OS X that uses the Portable Document Format (PDF) as the basis of its imaging model. Quartz delivers crisp graphics, anti-aliased fonts, and blends 2D, 3D and QuickTime content together with transparency and drop shadows. No other operating system delivers the high-quality graphics rendering of Quartz." Apple innovates, M$ copies. Too bad windows users will have to wait until 2005 for Longhorn Final.

Meanwhile Apple users will have Panther by the end of the year with 64bit support and we have had Quartz Extreme for some time.

#39.1 nacs on 09 May 2003 - 07:32

Well said.

#39.2 eonics on 09 May 2003 - 10:30

I agree that MacOSX.2 was the first commercial OS to do this. However, Apple did not come up with the concepts. This concept has been known a long time and several papers and experimental implementations have been used for this. For real live examples just fire up a 3D compter game and you'll most likely see all the genie effects you want. Another thing to remember is Microsoft Chromeffects (199

. Not only did chrome allow any HTML to be rendered on a 3D surface but it any windows control worked. I saw a demo where the folder bar in explorer used a 3D animation when hiding and showing. Maybe you are all still claiming that MS ripped Apple of?

#39.3 Spectre on 09 May 2003 - 10:36

[neoquote=#39.0 by aristotle-dude]This is a ripoff of quartz extreme from Jaguar. They even use the same terminology like "compositing engine". [URL=http://www.apple.com/macosx/jaguar/quartzextreme.html]Quartz Extreme[/URL] I quote: "Everything you see on screen is the result of millions upon millions of calculations by Quartz, the revolutionary composited windowing system in Mac OS X that uses the Portable Document Format (PDF) as the basis of its imaging model. Quartz delivers crisp graphics, anti-aliased fonts, and blends 2D, 3D and QuickTime content together with transparency and drop shadows. No other operating system delivers the high-quality graphics rendering of Quartz." Apple innovates, M$ copies. Too bad windows users will have to wait until 2005 for Longhorn Final.

[/neoquote] to aristotle-dude: you've got to be kidding me. i'm not sure if you ever took english classes, but you should look "composition" up in a dictionary. that's like saying microsoft is ripping off apple because both engines draw pixels.

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