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Eight years old, and he’s a Microsoft professional

Tom Warren   on 16 May 2003 - 08:55 · 78 comments & 3933 views

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Bill Gates is his idol. His dream? Achieving more than what Gates has, ‘‘especially in the computer field.’’ Meet eight-year-old Maulin Raval who recently cleared the online Microsoft Certified Professional Exam in Networking.

Maulin’s the youngest person to get the MCP certificate, claims the centre from where he cleared the exam. That’s not surprising. A student of Class IV at Atmiya Shishu Vidhya Mandir in Rajkot, Maulin can instal almost all operating systems and assemble as well as disassemble hardware on his own.

Impressed by his photogenic memory, his school director suggested that he take the MCP exam. That’s the reason Maulin has a certificate of excellence from Microsoft which reads ‘‘as a Microsoft Certified Professional, you are recognized and prompted by Microsoft as an expert with skills needed to design, implement and support solutions with Microsoft products and technologies.’’

Maulin’s parents say their son has always excelled — be it academics or extra-curricular activities. On April 8, Maulin appeared for the MCP exam, and on April 12 for his school finals. The result? ‘‘He topped his class with a 92 per cent score and also became the youngest to get this Microsoft certificate,’’ says Atmiya director Hemant Mohite. ‘‘We’ve checked the website and we found that a 11-year-old from New York has cleared the exam. Maulin is much younger,’’ he added.

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(6 replies) #1 creamhackered on 16 May 2003 - 08:57
If he got a whole MCSE THEN i'd be impressed
#1.1 tuxracer on 16 May 2003 - 09:03
If he got a RHCT then I'd be impressed
#1.2 creamhackered on 16 May 2003 - 09:08
[neoquote=#1.1 by tuxracer]If he got a RHCT then I'd be impressed [/neoquote] I doubt he'll wanna go the linux path somehow
#1.3 Jason on 16 May 2003 - 09:19
IThis may be impressive as long as he isn't cheating but it is usless due to his age and the fact he has no experience working with MS products. MCSE only works when you take this after having some experience working with their products.
#1.4 tuxracer on 16 May 2003 - 09:45
[neoquote=#1.2 by creamhackered]I doubt he'll wanna go the linux path somehow [/neoquote] So he isn't as smart as we all thought
#1.5 jkuy9 on 16 May 2003 - 17:44
[neoquote=#1.3 by Jason]IThis may be impressive as long as he isn't cheating but it is usless due to his age and the fact he has no experience working with MS products. MCSE only works when you take this after having some experience working with their products.[/neoquote] How do you know he doesn't have experience working with MS products? He might have a Windows network setup at home.
#1.6 Jason on 16 May 2003 - 17:50
Like that counts, you tell a an IT manager when you go for an interview that you know the stuff due to using it at home. A huge company network is way more complicated and diverse than a home set up.
(2 replies) #2 CyberKewl on 16 May 2003 - 09:01
Can assemble and disassemble hardware on his own? This i've got to see...
#2.1 sodapop on 16 May 2003 - 09:04
You know, People on Crank can disassemble stuff but can't reassemble it.
#2.2 Octol on 17 May 2003 - 02:46
LOL!
(7 replies) #3 CyberKewl on 16 May 2003 - 09:07
One other thing: this kid has photographic memory - which means he only memorises the answers and this does NOT mean that he understands the fundamentals of networking right? Memorising is one thing, understanding the concepts and how to apply them is another thing.
#3.1 creamhackered on 16 May 2003 - 09:09
Exactly, anyone can go into an exam after brainwashing themselves or braindumping the questions
#3.2 valhalla on 16 May 2003 - 09:16
i agree. i think he'll be the next gate slave
#3.3 Jason on 16 May 2003 - 10:09
He will learn that in the IT industry, experience counts more than Qualifications, although both together is best.
#3.4 Glen on 16 May 2003 - 11:31
[b]Most[/b] of the MCSE people I know barely understand networking fundamentals.
#3.5 longwilli on 16 May 2003 - 13:17
i agree these exams dont count for alot its what happens in the 'real world' that matters to me
#3.6 Zatko55 on 16 May 2003 - 14:05
Amen to that. As far as I'm concerned, MSCE means nothing to me.
#3.7 MadDog on 16 May 2003 - 19:18
When I was consulting I spent a good chunk of my time bailing out MCSEs who just [B]thought [/B]they knew everything because they went to MCSE boot camp.
#4 mrk on 16 May 2003 - 09:34
teehee, /me imagines bill gates one fine afternoon WHTSHHH! *sound of whiplash* OOOH SUITS YOU SIR!
(2 replies) #5 Spidoinkel on 16 May 2003 - 09:36
"Maulin can instal almost all operating systems " Its not hard to follow on-screen instructions.
#5.1 kioria on 16 May 2003 - 09:43
[neoquote=#5.0 by Spidoinkel]"Maulin can instal almost all operating systems " Its not hard to follow on-screen instructions.[/neoquote] I'm pretty sure, when you were just 8-years old, you couldn't even install any software. Give that kid a break.
#5.2 buddy12 on 19 May 2003 - 10:59
There was no software
#6 mrk on 16 May 2003 - 09:47
im sure the kid at this stage is fascinate by all this but as soon as he hits teens he will be overpowered by pr0n, girls, socialising or not
(1 reply) #7 YaZoR on 16 May 2003 - 09:47
lol i bet he cant compile ancient 6502 assembly, like i could years ago, i was around 8 year old then. forget most of it now :disappoin: but then again its obsolete. i think i was 10 when i first ripped a 486dx2 50MHz apart, then rebuilt it to teach myself how the internals of a system are put together. i was astounded by how piss easy it was, and still is. i dont see him as anything special, unless he finds a way to code an OS that can run on a pocket calc cpu and render gfx as good as the doom3 engine, or better :p
#7.1 creamhackered on 16 May 2003 - 09:59
[neoquote=#7.0 by YaZoR]unless he finds a way to code an OS that can run on a pocket calc cpu and render gfx as good as the doom3 engine, or better :p[/neoquote] haha yeah imagine that, Doom III for PocketPC
#8 Long on 16 May 2003 - 10:11
I did all those when I was 8 Except taking the exam.
(1 reply) #9 blzd|sicmade on 16 May 2003 - 10:13
lmao yazor i feel ya bro screw this kid
#9.1 YaZoR on 16 May 2003 - 13:56
indeed. he will never have a life if he's kooked up at his home analyzing tcp/ip udp packets. that why i stepped away and went to chase girls and drink beer and play golf. and hey 2 outta 3 aint bad, girls and beer that is
#10 Q25 on 16 May 2003 - 10:17
Welcome to the Freak Show...
(1 reply) #11 theh0g on 16 May 2003 - 10:30
At 8 all I did was being a normal 8yo brat, watching TV, playing games but mostly spent days outside playing (yes, we had computers then). If you ask me, I'd never change that for any cetrificate, this kid is just another victim of society - he will be smart and probably some director, but he'll be socialy crippled. But that's just my opinion
#11.1 Jstphish on 16 May 2003 - 15:32
That may come true but you never know, some people just have the energy to focus on a multitude of things at once. My girlfriends brother is going to be Cisco certified as soon as he takes the exam (he'll pass) and is the network admin at a web company and he still has time to hang out with friends and enjoy life. You never know, this kid may turn out to be the same way.
(1 reply) #12 Dessimat0r on 16 May 2003 - 10:53
Ahaha, scriptkiddie I take it that the MCP exam is 'easy' then?
#12.1 PeterHammer on 16 May 2003 - 14:03
'easy' is not the right term. It's memorizable. There's a lot to memorize, but it's doable.
(1 reply) #13 Kanecorp on 16 May 2003 - 10:56
come on guys...8 years old..give credit where credit is due...
#13.1 kemical on 16 May 2003 - 11:55
no kidding, i smell jealousy. and also some bacon!
(1 reply) #14 gamehead200 on 16 May 2003 - 11:23
WTF? I knew how to do those things when I was 6! I got my first computer when I was 3!
#14.1 MikeS2k on 16 May 2003 - 16:18
How the hell did you afford that then?
(1 reply) #15 Pride on 16 May 2003 - 12:56
Oh yeah?? Well I was on the Windows 95 Programming team when I was 18 months old! So there! seriously though, this is kinda scarey. I bet the kid has parents that push him way too hard. If he is a born genius, thats fine, but every 8 year old needs to be an 8 year old in the true sense. Baseball with friends, backyard touch football, riding bikes and stuff. Too bad, he will be a loser by the time he hits Jr. High.
#15.1 Joshie on 16 May 2003 - 15:41
There's no 'true' sense of what an eight year old has to be. Unless, of course, you think mankind has perfected childrearing? :/
(2 replies) #16 thurrott on 16 May 2003 - 13:25
"Photogenic memory"? How can his memory be pretty enough to photograph? You mean "photographic" memory, I think. (and yes, I know this is in the original article --Paul)
#16.1 Quick Reply on 16 May 2003 - 13:49
[neoquote=#16.0 by thurrott](and yes, I know this is in the original article --Paul)[/neoquote] lol, way to contridict yourself
#16.2 Daffy_Duck on 16 May 2003 - 14:22
Technically, that was not a contradiction.
(1 reply) #17 naap51stang on 16 May 2003 - 13:36
I feel sorry for the child........he will be just like Bill Gates.......nerd, by himself.......always angry at everyone around him that works for him......I bet his parents don't even let him "be a kid"........he's probably not interacting with children his own age.......what a jip.......not allowed to be a child.......
#17.1 Joshie on 16 May 2003 - 15:44
Yeah...just like Bill Gates...supermodel wife...all personal debts long paid off...perfect house...and a bunch of Linux kiddies making fun of him on some lamer-trafficked forums here and there. Really, considering how man-woman relationships in this country have a 60% chance of failing, this kid'd be lucky to turn out like Bill Gates: married as long as he can stay wealthy, which will probably be for a good long time.
#18 PeterHammer on 16 May 2003 - 14:00
Not to take anything away from the kid, but that just confirms what most people in IT already know: The MCP is a complete joke as a certification program.
#19 TheBigLebowski on 16 May 2003 - 14:01
Those exams and those certifications are such jokes.
#20 zivan56 on 16 May 2003 - 14:01
This was posted last year a think.
(1 reply) #21 Cygoku on 16 May 2003 - 14:15
What's so hard in installng OSes and hardware? I want a MCP to! GIMME IT! Cygoku
#21.1 Jason on 16 May 2003 - 15:33
Installing OS's and hardware is really nothing to do with getting an MCP.

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(1 reply) #22 Manya on 16 May 2003 - 14:16
bah!!! I was "LOAD"*",8,1 Return"ing when I was 5!!! *hugs C64"
#22.1 McFly on 16 May 2003 - 14:23
bahaha I remember those days, too...although I had an Atari 800XL, it still required lots of manual typing as there was no GUI. Good times, eh?
#23 LoneSniper on 16 May 2003 - 14:35
Ok now I feel really bad about studying on and off for 18months to get a MCP in Win2K and not being up to taking the exam. :disappoin If he beats me to a tech job I will be P..................ed!
#24 werejag on 16 May 2003 - 14:37
so what they are saying is mcp is childs play. not worth the time for grown ups
#25 DrAwesome on 16 May 2003 - 14:43
Photogenic memory? Wasn't that from an episode of Voyager, or is his memory possibly a good photography subject? When I was 8 years old I didn't know how to install software. Of course, my Apple II didn't require me to install software...
#26 Mr. Black on 16 May 2003 - 14:50
This is very interesting. Today, children brought up around computers are learning 20 years ahead of time the most advanced things...absoultetly amazing!
(2 replies) #27 TC17 on 16 May 2003 - 14:55
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#27.1 Joshie on 16 May 2003 - 15:45
It's interesting how people assume greed is an issue for Bill Gates.
#27.2 JaggedFlame on 17 May 2003 - 04:22
Yeah, "greed." He's probably given more to charity than you've ever handled in your life.
(1 reply) #28 antareus on 16 May 2003 - 15:14
Neowin, where anyone slightly different is attacked.
#28.1 K3EnU on 16 May 2003 - 15:18
lmaorofl !
(2 replies) #29 DrunkenMaster on 16 May 2003 - 15:57
It doesn't impress me because the test itself is flawed anyways: Its all multiple choice. I'd like to see him actually setup a network and consult with "clients" to tell them what system is best. LOL .... this is why they should be a minimum age. Heck he probably just drew patterns on the sheet and happened to get enough to pass.
#29.1 Jason on 16 May 2003 - 16:10
How I would change MCSE: 1. you must have 2 years minimum in an IT role before being allowed to take the exams. 2. Include a practical exam so you must show your abilities.
#29.2 DrunkenMaster on 16 May 2003 - 23:50
That not really a good idea either for those entering the job market. Do you have your MSCEs? No. Do you have work experience? No. Why not? Don't have my MCSEs. (You can see where its going....).
#30 Dessimat0r on 16 May 2003 - 17:11
Are there any practice exams online? I want to see some for myself.
#31 Euphoria on 16 May 2003 - 17:18
#32 Pzaga on 16 May 2003 - 21:19
Psfft. This kid is nothing.
#33 Richteralan on 16 May 2003 - 22:44
hehehe......... I got my PhD diploma on 4.....hehehe........
(1 reply) #34 AJCrowley Esq on 17 May 2003 - 00:58
[B]M[/B]ust [B]C[/B]onsult [B]S[/B]omeone [B]E[/B]xperienced.
#34.1 PacificAk on 17 May 2003 - 12:49
[neoquote=#34.0 by AJCrowley Esq][B]M[/B]ust [B]C[/B]onsult [B]S[/B]omeone [B]E[/B]xperienced.[/neoquote] i think that should be - [B]M[/B]ust [B]C[/B]onsult [B]P[/B]rofessionals
#35 georgi55 on 17 May 2003 - 01:19
talk about freak.
#36 ike on 17 May 2003 - 02:14
only little smartasses get recognized when they do something special. the REAL ones are too humble.
#37 nacs on 17 May 2003 - 07:52
"MCP--So complex and difficult that an 8 year old can do it." MS really needs to turn up the difficulty level of their certifcation programs. The amount of people with MS certifications is increasing at such a high rate that they're worth a dime a dozen.
#38 PacificAk on 17 May 2003 - 12:41
let me put this in prespective for all of you.... he's an INDIAN (as in from INDIA) & frankly speaking the kids from the current genration scare the hell out of me with their intelligence .. photographic memory or not, this is definately a common thing over here... i fondly think of my country as the "country of brains"..
#39 cesardrgn on 17 May 2003 - 14:41
is hard to think he clear the exam at his age...
#40 jagedEdge on 17 May 2003 - 14:52
This kid doesn't amaze me one bit. I learned how to read and write from a computer, and then I learned how a computer works. It's easy if you have a pre-built computer that you take apart, learn about, and then put back together. Now I put all my PCs together. It's not hard at all, so I learned quickly and knew this when I was 6. Installing an OS is so damn easy, so as far as that goes I'm not surprised either. Only reason he gets recognized is because he's actually forced to take the exam, and then "amazingly" does well on it. And everybody thinks this is amazing because they didn't take the time to learn.
#41 buddy12 on 17 May 2003 - 15:39
I completely disagree with your article regarding Maulin Raval as the youngest to pass the MCP exam in networking for two reasons. First, there is no MCP Exam for networking in general. If you're referring to Exam 70-058, Networking Essentials, it was discontinued on Feburary 28, 2001 and does not count for an MCP certification. Second, an eight year old boy (Omar Rizwan) passed the Windows XP Professional MCP exam (70-270) on March 29, 2003 from East Hanover, New Jersey, USA at the Infotec Research Int'l Inc. testing center, 188 Route 10 East, East Hanover, NJ, 07936, USA. Tel. number: 1-973-463-1260. You are welcome to verify this information. In short:

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(1 reply) #42 [X]rogue[X] on 19 May 2003 - 07:05
Hmmm.... (dont quote me) isnt there some 5 year old who got his. It is in the wolrd records i think?? Maybe yes maybe no ? but think about it
#42.1 buddy12 on 19 May 2003 - 11:04
That was a GCSE kid, so he definetely doesn't count.

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