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Mandrake Linux 9.1 Power Pack Edition Review

Steven Parker   on 26 May 2003 - 14:58 · 14 comments & 1036 views

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TweakHound has posted a review on Mandrake Linux 9.1 Power Pack Edition
Mandrake Linux 9.1 is another big step forward for MandrakeSoft and Linux. After my introduction to Linux while writing the "Newbie"ginning article I was impressed enough to stick with it. At the time I only had it on one computer which was basically a glorified stereo. Now, due in part to hardware changes, I'm running Mandrake Linux 9.1 on 3 computers. The best way to describe my experience with 9.1 is...WOW! MandrakeSoft has done it's homework. Mandrake 9.1 has a professional and clean looking interface and it's easier to use than ever. This article isn't so much of a review as it is my experience installing and using it. I'll let the pictures do much of the talking. It should be noted that while I now have some experience (5 months) with Linux, I still consider myself a newbie.
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HP may have picked a good time to announce the robot. Fear of flying after Sept. 11, 2001, has led to a rash of interest in videoconferencing. And the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) outbreak has put a further crimp on already sluggish business travel.

The promise of such technology is that a remote co-worker can hear the formal part of a meeting as well as participate in the chitchat within the room. Using a joystick, the distant participant can pick up on a sound in one part of a room and join in that conversation. However, those present at a meeting should be forewarned that the microphone on the robot is sensitive; hushed conversation in a corner might not be so private.

But for all its potential, the current model is still very much a work in progress. HP still has no commercial plans for the robot, which was built using a number of Windows-based PCs. Although the robot allows people to see the face of a co-worker in near-real time,there is about a one-second delay before the remotely connected colleague can be heard. And although an earlier version of the robot was designed to travel around the office via a joystick controlled by the person, HP has made the latest version static while it tries to work out some of the kinks.

HP is not unique in pursuing robots as a replacement for travel. For example, Los Angeles-based InTouch Health sees robots as a way to allow expert doctors and health care providers to be virtually at the bedside of patients that are hundreds or thousands of miles away.

But HP's lead researcher says that the company is far ahead of other such projects.

"So far the best things that have been done--they still kind of look spooky," said HP Labs researcher Norm Jouppi.

To be fair, HP's first attempt was rather off-putting in its own right--resembling a slightly bulkier version of No. 5 from the '80s movie "Short Circuit."

Mechanical engineer Stan Thomas said that when he joined the team, he noticed that people spent more time looking at the robot's shiny metal parts than at the video screen that's displaying their co-worker. Thomas helped redesign the device to have a more human-looking (and less jarring) form--the current blue, plastic model resembles a giant Lego.

People seem to like the fact that the new model doesn't have arms, Jouppi said. Although the arms on the first version allowed the robot to perform simple tasks such as pushing an elevator button, researchers say people were put off by the fact that the robot could touch things.

"They'd seen too many movies" with robots crushing things, Jouppi said.

HP wouldn't say how much such a robot could cost--though it is certain to be more than the price of a few plane tickets. The current setup for the distant co-worker uses five PCs, five cameras and a surround-sound system, creating a virtual environment. The in-office robot is made up of two PCs, a number of cameras, four directional microphones and several speakers. A high-speed 802.11a wireless network is needed at the meeting site to transmit the information back to the remote colleague.

Jouppi wishes that his pet project was already a reality.

"I'd like to have something like this," he says. "I have to go on a business trip next week for a two-hour meeting."


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#1 souldreamer on 26 May 2003 - 15:03
I use i386 version.
#2 nmarsh1 on 26 May 2003 - 15:31
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...has a professional and clean looking interface...


Mandrake is far from professional, polished and everything else good. Their distro is full of bloat, which is usually what I expect for a KDE centric distro... [SIGH] I get so sick of haveing 50 different tools to do the same thing.

[Start shameless plug]

Red Hat (version 8 or 9) is leaps and bounds above Mandrake. They have really done a good job creating the redhat-config-* GUI tools. Additionally, their Blue Curve theme is way less "busy" than Mandrake's Galaxy theme.
#3 lexor on 26 May 2003 - 17:10
didn't Mandrake go bunkrupt a couple of month ago?
#4 cesardrgn on 26 May 2003 - 18:10
I can sure go with linux...
#5 markopoleo on 26 May 2003 - 18:43
I installed Mandrake 9.1 on a Duel 700mhz a few days ago. And I agree with nmarsh1 it is bloated. And being someone who never used linux before, I have to say im not impressed. They have 20 program to do one thing for crying out loud. The only really great thing about it was ease of install, and detection of devices.

Also was disappointed that some programs that ran in windows the linux version was lacking in speed and ease of use like windows programs. For instance the Distributed.net client. It took well over a hour to get it running cause it would refuse to update over LAN connection. Even with no firewall. Just straight 56k connection. sad.

But the #1 problem was all the programs. Its very annoying for someone when so many programs takes the "fun" factor of learning a OS like linux. Its overkill.

#2 problem, is don't ever listen to someone who says linux is more secure/bug free. Its worse than windows. 9.1 has not been out very long, and I was presented with no less that 80megs of security/bug fixes for programs. You may thing "you don't need all those"..but I did, because it said I had to download them because of dependencies on other programs. So what kinda sense is it I have to download a security update to a program that I don't Use, just cause some web browser "by chance" would use it to? This of course is prob related to all the programs installed in first place.

And #3. Why oh why can't that make a name for programs easier! I got so sick of seeing stuff like 556-xine.so0.9343.et0.rpm. Just a example, but everything is like that. Trying to look for a update is so annoying. They should name them like. Mozilla 4.5 patch.rpm


Just my thoughts coming from a "newb" in terms of linux. Maybe everyone who uses it takes that stuff for granted, but you will NEVER see it on the avarage home user till it is made easier to use.
#6 Joshie on 26 May 2003 - 20:16
I'd love to give an opinion on Linux, but I can't really use it much.

See, the damn thing doesn't properly detect my ethernet adapter. Mandrake, Redhat, Suse, etc... Never got any of 'em to read it properly. So I could never get online. Till Linux can get that right, I'm not even going to pay attention to it.

Of course, Linux fundamentalists would probably just tell me to install another ethernet card. To which I say: I shouldn't have to.
(2 replies) #7 Digital Oracle on 26 May 2003 - 22:03
I know this comments is going to be flamed, please don't bother, I know what you thinking I similar. With all the bloat Windows XP has, its got a decent program/user interface and generally a sinch to install, like most Linux distros these days. But why do the linux development community inist on constantly reinventing the wheel? Its not like its worn out, and Windows has some good ideas and UIs that could be used/ seen in a Linux distro. Common, why have 3 applets for managing programs that need or are installed. Add or Remove Programs, via the control panel, does it right for me, yet even better, I've never met a file, Windows (the OS) doesn't try to reconise. And if it does, it runs an install, an associated app, and if XP, offers an online solution.

When Linux requires less input from the end user, and I mean END USER, not TOP LEVEL development exec, then it might be a decent option. Until the Linux community relise this, it will always be a second rate OS, compare to Microsoft's Windows. Because if what I seen planned from MS, like Avalon, SQL file system (Windows Future File System) and other things written/seen, the next 2/3 years will be important for OS development for the home market, and Linux better catch up (and even supass - if possible) MS own development efforts.
#7.1 dmd3x on 26 May 2003 - 23:02
For you, my friend, there is Mac.
#7.2 Digital Oracle on 27 May 2003 - 00:04
Mac is better, not as retarded as Linux is, but still, UI, besides its looks needs working on. I've used Mac OS 9 - 10.2 and just find the finding things, isn't logical. I still like my Control Panel, my start menu, task bar and the ability to over it anywhere. The only things I like about a Mac, is the quick access u get at the bottom and the intergrated system access bar on the top.

Linux inquilivent, is Gnome, which I prefer than KDE, but still Linux under the hood
(2 replies) #8 dmd3x on 26 May 2003 - 23:06
Linux has a bright future.
#8.1 Digital Oracle on 26 May 2003 - 23:59
just not fully relised
#8.2 MaRkY on 27 May 2003 - 08:57
Right
#9 sttroopers on 27 May 2003 - 01:35
I've always liked the "bloat" in the Mandrake suites. It's nice to have options and to try different things. I just find the app I like most and get rid of the others. Linux might not be ready to challenge microsoft for the desktop, but its getting there. I think they'll be ready for primetime right about the time microsoft rolls out its first subscription based OS.
#10 jardragon901 on 27 May 2003 - 07:55
Mandrake may be bloated but its the only distro that will work on my system(tried Gentoo,very fun distro btw, several versions of Red Hat, Suse 8.2, Libranet, love the debian install system, and several others), no matter what I tried they were all slow and didnt perform very well although gentoo came close it was just to much time to compile everything .

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