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Piracy rate in Ireland not improved in two years!

me101   on 03 June 2003 - 17:49 · 18 comments & 1893 views

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    Honest guv... some bloke gave me this shiney disk thingy in da pub the other night and said it was all registered and all, give it a "whirl"...
Despite experiencing the highest drop in software piracy in Europe from 1994 to 2000, Ireland's piracy rate has not improved in the last 2 years.

The software piracy rate in Ireland remains static at 42%. A piracy rate of 42% means that almost one in every two business software programs installed in Ireland is an illegal copy.

Commenting on the findings Julian McMenamin, Chairman of BSA Ireland said, "The lack of improvement on Ireland's piracy rate can be attributed to the proliferation of Internet piracy (as it provides an alternative distribution channel for pirated software) and a certain amount of apathy. But whatever the excuse, a piracy rate of 42% is appalling. Although the current business environment is difficult, companies must appreciate the value of software and ensure sound software asset management procedures are put in place. It is obvious that bolder measures will have to be taken to combat the continuing problem of piracy in Ireland."

As a comparison to the rest of Europe, at 42% Ireland shares the same piracy rate as Portugal and our closest neighbors, the UK, has a piracy rate of 26%. Denmark enjoys the lowest piracy rate in Europe at 24%.

News source: UTVLive
View: BSA Ireland Press Release


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(3 replies) #1 Dr.Dross on 03 Jun 2003 - 18:27
good news
#1.1 clonk on 03 Jun 2003 - 19:09
are you implying it is good news that the piracy rate in Ireland has not dropped in the past 2 years? I sincerely hope that when you grow up people will steal one of every two products your company makes - but I guess you having your own company is me putting far too much expectation on you.
#1.2 pctuk on 03 Jun 2003 - 20:45
I don't personally know Dr Dross but I'm sure that if he had a business the size of Microsoft when he's older he'd be a very happy doctor.
#1.3 Dr.Dross on 03 Jun 2003 - 21:41
yes it is good news. if the whole computer world had the same idealogy as linux then whe wouldn't even be here talkin' about that. my point is that softwares & games are way to expensive for what they bring. and anyway, it's their problem if they can't provide good security. piracy will always exist because someone will always break the technology
(5 replies) #2 kairon on 03 Jun 2003 - 19:09
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Honest guv... some bloke gave me this shiney disk thingy in da pub the other night and said it was all registered and all, give it a "whirl"...


I don't see that in the two links at all, and as an Irish person I find that offensive.Especially the generalization about everyone goes and drinks.
#2.1 Nuphor on 03 Jun 2003 - 19:15
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I don't see that in the two links at all, and as an Irish person I find that offensive.Especially the generalization about everyone goes and drinks.


I'm Irish too, and so is me101. One of the great things about being Irish lies in our ability to laugh at ourselves and not take things seriously. The quote was a mere light-hearted piece of humour, and should be treated as such. With regards to piracy, it really is an epidemic at this stage in Ireland.
#2.2 kairon on 03 Jun 2003 - 19:18
Didn't know that, so that changes things. Sorry. IMO i think piracy would be less if software prices would go down, sure they lose a bit of money by dropping prices, but if it makes more people buy products then that would make them do a lot better by selling software with high prices
#2.3 clonk on 03 Jun 2003 - 19:40
kairon, you do realize that for the years software is in development they are spending money on research and development? Look at the Office 2003 beta; they had a private beta 1 in which 6000 people were accepted, and then an open beta 2 in which HALF A MILLION people were accepted! Don't you think its a wee bit expensive to produce 19 cds in a color foldout for for .5 million people? Not to mention salary costs that need to be covered during all this time. So the price of a piece of software needs to cover these developmental costs, in addition to the profit margin the manufacturer desires (which they need to develop new versions of the software, and use to cover the teams continued work on the product after it ships, AKA patches and service packs).

The fact of the matter is that software costs alot because it costs alot to make and produce on all levels, and I don't want anyone to try and tell me otherwise.
#2.4 me101 on 03 Jun 2003 - 20:35
My quote was supposed to be a "light hearted" smack at us Irish being able to take the "Mickey" out of ourselves... We're all "Irish" at heart... And yes I'll be certainly jumping for joy if the total goes down next year... anything for a party... Woo Hoo!

The mere fact that the piracy rate has not gone down like other countries either shows a number of things... either the authorities are not doing their part in getting piracy out of business, or... software is so overpriced thus driving businesses and the likes to get the readily available software from "paddy" in the local pub or other unnamed places... for 50 quid (or 50 euros nowadays!!!) and are par-taking in the long tradition of "try before you buy" software license... only thing is that they usually try the software and "forget"... to follow through on the "buy" part of the equation... must be those few pints at lunch time that is dulling the senses!!!

It's been a while since I've been back to my homeland (and going back in a few weeks ), but from what I've heard and know from previous encounters, piracy is still a big epidemic in Ireland, both in the North and the South...

These days with broadband connections at home, work or at uni, in cities like Belfast, Dublin, Cork etc... , downloading software and burning it to CD is child's play for the pirates, it's freely available on the net. The only cost is the blank CD-R's and the time to have some 2nd cousin of paddy john twice removed sitting at a high speed connection to download the files and put them onto a fire wire hard drive (for later duplication) or just even burn them to CD for later duplication and circulation en-mass...

Oh yea, and remember, there's quite a large chunk of money to be made at piracy... not sure exactly how much is being made, but it sure is lining the pockets of certain groups that's for sure... I once "heard" of a CD software and music duplication factory getting raided by a joint RUC/Gardia operation, to combat piracy... only dented them for a short while...

Getting your hands on illegal software in Ireland is not that hard, someone always knows someone... It's that type of place...

Until software from the major suppliers (Microsoft take note...) gets cut in price quite a bit, piracy will always be with us, no matter where in the world you live!

It's cheaper for "Paddy's Food Market" to get the software for a small price from his cousin's friend, local pub or go to a certain weekend market, rather than get a the software from a software supplier in Ireland and pay 10 times the price. In these tough economic times, no-one will ever know that you got software that fell of a dodgy and speed internet connection... Who's going to tell... ?

Unless the BSA come knockin on your door, I'd say that there could even be more that 42% of businesses that are using pirated software, and this likely goes across the board in other countries, it's an educated guess... Somehow we'll never know just how bad the piracy is, we can only make rough estimates.
#2.5 Quick Reply on 04 Jun 2003 - 00:19
101, i think that you just wrote another article itself in the comments section
#3 uiop on 03 Jun 2003 - 19:41
I think seeing how it has stayed at a static 42% is pretty good in comparison to the US where i'm sure had an increase in piracy. I'm not saying 42% is good, but keeping it static is good with the fact that you would expect it to only climb higher with such a high percentage ... just think of the numbers a bit more people. Watch, next yaer it will drop
#4 darkmatter on 03 Jun 2003 - 20:07
sad about how much piracy goes on in the world
#5 Thekk on 03 Jun 2003 - 21:03
1 in every 2 copies of software within businesses is not licenced in Ireland, and 1 in every 4 in Denmark? I don't know about you, but that seems a tad high to me... But then again: it is the BSA that is bringing out the news.
#6 Xamos on 03 Jun 2003 - 23:21
um... How do they get these ****ing statistics? Do they just happean to go around to every person they see and ask them if they have been useing pirated software And do you really think they would tell the truth?
#7 Fubar on 04 Jun 2003 - 01:05
96% of statistics are made up on the spot anyway... end of the day means feck all.. but on a serious note pricay WILL fall if prices come down.. you gotta remember england and irlands prices for software is ****ing ludicrous..... so the Lower the PRices less priracy still sticks with me IMO i know for one i only have one Origanle thing that ive bought n thios pc software wise.. adn thats enter the matrix the rest i wouldnt pay for becuase its just not worth the money......
#8 Flip_Kid on 04 Jun 2003 - 02:40
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a certain amount of apathy. But whatever the excuse, a piracy rate of 42% is appalling.


Ehhh. That's right, the apathy over there is appalling. The piracy rate should be higher!

:p I'm sure that's not the impression the BSA is exactly going for, but its the way I see it ;D
(1 reply) #9 roadwarrior on 04 Jun 2003 - 02:49
The BSA gets their numbers like this. First they look at the number of new PC shipments in a given area. Then they look at the number of software sales of specific applications (mainly business suites, graphics apps, ect.) that they believe should be sold to match those PC's in the same area. They compare these two numbers, and if the number of applications sold does not match the number that they believe should be sold for the number of PC's in that area, then they claim that the rest of the PC's are running pirated software. The problem is that their numbers do not take into account people replacing an old PC with a new one, people using free software alternatives to the applications they survey, or users who simply do not use those applications. Sometimes in their figures, the software sales actually exceed the PC sales, in which case they "borrow" some of the numbers from neighboring areas to make up the difference. It's all explained on their web site. BSA's supposed "formula" for piracy!
#9.1 bilston on 04 Jun 2003 - 06:08
WTF!?

Im so dumbfounded I can't think of anything worthwhile to type in reply.

ho hum.

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