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File-swappers face the music

Tom Warren   on 06 June 2003 - 17:02 · 70 comments & 3071 views

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In a victory for the record industry, an American internet provider has handed over the names of four customers accused of illegally copying music over the net.

The Verizon internet service provider (ISP) was ordered to surrender the names to the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) by a court of Appeal in Washington.

On Wednesday the court rejected Verizon's request for a delay, pending a final decision in the case.

The ruling removes, at least for now, the anonymity of millions of people in the US who routinely download copyrighted music and films over the internet.

Verizon and the record industry have been involved in a protracted legal battle over the privacy of the ISP's subscribers.

Since last year, the RIAA has been trying to get Verizon to reveal the identity of customers who use peer-to-peer networks such as Kazaa.

The record industry body argued that the Digital Millennium Copyright Act allowed them to subpoena information about suspected pirates without first seeking a judge's blessing.

The RIAA has said it intends to sent out a significant number of subpeonas.

News source: BBC News




TCP breaks down large files into small packets of about 1500 bytes, each carrying the address of the sender and the recipient. The sending computer transmits a packet, waits for a signal from the recipient that acknowledges its safe arrival, and then sends the next packet.

If no receipt comes back, the sender transmits the same packet at half the speed of the previous one, and repeats the process, getting slower each time, until it succeeds.

This means that even minor glitches on the line can make a connection very sluggish. Because Fast TCP uses the same packet sizes as regular TCP, the hardware that carries messages around the net will still work. The difference is in software and hardware on the sending computer, which continually measures the time it takes for sent packets to arrive, and how long acknowledgements take to come back.

This reveals the delays on the line, giving early warnings of likely packet losses. The Fast TCP software uses this to predict the highest data rate the connection can support without losing data.

Since the packets are the same size as those used in TCP, none of the equipment along the internet itself will have to be modified, and no new hardware will be needed on computers receiving the data.

The first practical test of Fast TCP took place in November at a supercomputing conference. Researchers from Caltech, Stanford and CERN near Geneva in Switzerland, sent data 10,000 kilometres from Sunnyvale, California, to CERN at an average rate of 925 megabits per second. Ordinary TCP managed just 266 megabits per second on the same routes.

By ganging 10 Fast TCP systems together, the researchers have achieved transmission speeds of over 8.6 gigabits per second, which is more than 6000 times the capacity of ordinary broadband links.

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#1 kljs on 06 Jun 2003 - 17:13
Time to go back to Radio.....
#2 AndyD on 06 Jun 2003 - 17:15
oh lord...here we go again. Never trusted those P2P programs anyway.
(3 replies) #3 kemical on 06 Jun 2003 - 17:15
i hope riaa dies of a rare disease and they never get laid again
#3.1 sp0rk on 06 Jun 2003 - 17:19
I dont think the RIAA ever got laid to begin with...
#3.2 creamhackered on 06 Jun 2003 - 17:19
Nice :/ The "Nolaidium" rare disease
#3.3 Delsphynx on 06 Jun 2003 - 18:56
ha ha ha ha!
(5 replies) #4 Mr. Black on 06 Jun 2003 - 17:20
Someone needs to perform a terrorist attack on their headquarters...that will stop everything
#4.1 Stevie on 06 Jun 2003 - 17:29
What a stupid un-sensative thing to say.

If I done some work and people copied/ripped it I'd be pissed off too.
#4.2 wtmcgee on 06 Jun 2003 - 21:17
that's not funny.
#4.3 Quick Reply on 07 Jun 2003 - 03:07
blowing up the riaa headquarters has crossed my mind too, so if im not the only one to get that idea, then it's bound to happen sooner or later
#4.4 JaggedFlame on 07 Jun 2003 - 21:58
You're pathetic.
#4.5 FireRabbit on 08 Jun 2003 - 00:09
Ive thought of blowing it up but i thought it would be more rewarding to run each member over with a truck =)
(1 reply) #5 sp0rk on 06 Jun 2003 - 17:20
In other news:
http://riaa.org is down, I'm sure it is completely unrelated
#5.1 Samoa on 06 Jun 2003 - 21:48
LOL
#6 Fubar on 06 Jun 2003 - 17:45
ahh well there goes customer privacy down the pan.... nice to know that im not under american law cos its bloody daft and there justice system is daft for letting it happen riaa will never win and obviously never learn.............
#7 mopper on 06 Jun 2003 - 17:54
now the riaa is gonna go hustle kids and their parents and slap them with $50,000 dollar lawsuits! this is really retarded! argh im soo mad!!!!! riaa
#8 Dr.Dross on 06 Jun 2003 - 17:59
dammit this is really bad news, damn riaa they are so meant to drown..
i don't think they can fight against hackers and technology.

so riaa.org is down ? hahah *cough* *cough*
#9 AndyD on 06 Jun 2003 - 18:04
I'm sure they will be just going after major offenders. If you're that stupid to have a big download folder, then you shouldn't be surprised if they come knocking at your door.

#10 npX on 06 Jun 2003 - 18:14
I look at it this way... what happened when Napster went out? People got so pissed, wanted to do this same thing, hack the RIAA and all this sh**. Ok, fine.. but there will always be a way to swap files over the internet. It dosen't matter what happens, nothing can stop online piracy. I don't care how much the RIAA tries. We will ALWAYS win.
(1 reply) #11 Dr.Dross on 06 Jun 2003 - 18:14
but i was wondering about what's going to happen ?!

1- what if they formated their hd ?
2- what if they say "hey i bought all these albums so i legally have the right of the mp3s..but i lost all the albums"

anyway it makes me sad to see how privacy has been invaded :
#11.1 pagal on 07 Jun 2003 - 00:51
1. ever heard of "computer forensics"?
2. come on...that's just too lame to pass as an excuse.

die riaa!
#12 Dr.Dross on 06 Jun 2003 - 18:15
npX yeah you are right there
#13 aem4162 on 06 Jun 2003 - 18:23
I wish I knew how to hack so I could fix the riaa site to say "the riaa is a bunch of poopy heads"
(1 reply) #14 kljs on 06 Jun 2003 - 18:27
imagine the RIAA putting up lawsuits on everyone that uses kazaa and other p2p?

wow........they would be damn rich with all those lawsuits.......
#14.1 Axess1968 on 06 Jun 2003 - 18:36
Nahh.. Their LAWYERS would be getting rich OFF THEM.
#15 DrAwesome on 06 Jun 2003 - 18:29
I don't get it... Why was Verizon tracking P2P software usage in the first place? Or did the RIAA just notice that some people were using Verizon? How do they prove it?
#16 Axess1968 on 06 Jun 2003 - 18:35
COME ON now! VERIZON'S Spokesperson is DARTH VADER! Hilary Rosen is Bielzebub's girlfriend.

I saw this one coming a mile away!
(1 reply) #17 Glen on 06 Jun 2003 - 18:43
DrAwesome,

Verizon wasn't tracking P2P usage. P2P programs reveal your IP address, and ISPs log who get's what IP address when they login/dial-up. The RIAA just took the IP address, tracked down the owner (Verizon) and forced them to turn over the information from the logs to identify the individual.

It just sucks. Oh well, back to the alt.binary groups.
#17.1 elatedmedia on 06 Jun 2003 - 19:36
QUOTE (#17.0 by )
Oh well, back to the alt.binary groups.

Gotta love em.
#18 Mav Phoenix on 06 Jun 2003 - 19:30
What a drag...
#19 blackice912 on 06 Jun 2003 - 19:57
Well, there is always IRC.
(1 reply) #20 schwit on 06 Jun 2003 - 20:06
Why is Verizon keeping logs with this info? Don't they know that eventually, a DMCA ruling will require all ISPs to make connectivity logs available in real-time to the MPA and RIAA?
#20.1 GamblerFEXonlin on 07 Jun 2003 - 01:57
Here in norway its law they log, and keep them for 3 months.
#21 Mav Phoenix on 06 Jun 2003 - 20:11
So much for privacy.
#22 timbo3 on 06 Jun 2003 - 20:40
Thats crappy, I just got my cable modem - better download now!
(2 replies) #23 wtmcgee on 06 Jun 2003 - 21:18
i'm glad i don't steal software, movies, or music - i don't have to worry about this.
#23.1 X Statik Process on 06 Jun 2003 - 23:24
I'm glad that you don't steal software, movies or music too! More for bandwidth for me.
#23.2 GamblerFEXonlin on 07 Jun 2003 - 02:12
Id take it more as "borrowing," they get it back when you figure out it sucks (unreal2) and delete it. They cant require you to pay full amount for the programs/games if you get caught, theres no distribution, no support and no stores have lost any goods. Its only your potential to buy the wares they might have lost,

BSA figured since software sold only 51% of the "predicted demand," 49% of us are pirates. That was 1% less than last year, so BSA really works! really! please give them another $100 million so they can keep up their exellent statistic generator err i mean piracy fighting.

Internet is what books was for the old poem and story memorizers. And automobiles for horse-breeders. Let RIAA and physical distribution die, so can those people do something useful instead and most people can work only 5 hours a day just as if there was no crime.
#24 KiwiNZ on 06 Jun 2003 - 21:36
I am glad I dont live in the USA , DMA means diddly to me and the RIAA can suck on Rasberry's
(1 reply) #25 Tekmaven on 06 Jun 2003 - 21:45
I got a real test for Microsoft, and Windows Server 2003 w/ IIS6. If they say its *so* great; why don't they host the RIAA's website and see how long it lasts.

#25.1 Avenger on 07 Jun 2003 - 00:40
Hmm, interesting idea. Why don't you suggest it to the RIAA & Microsoft?
#26 Dr.Dross on 06 Jun 2003 - 21:49
hahahaha good one Tekmaven
#27 Krome on 06 Jun 2003 - 21:53
YAY! RIAA is down again!!!
#28 Homie on 06 Jun 2003 - 22:05
what are they gonna do now? they will lose millions of dollars (more than they have already), i bet mroe than they lose from piracy to hunting all these people down.
#29 Zeni on 06 Jun 2003 - 22:08
LoL, another exciting round of "How many 15 year old boys can you prosecute!"
(3 replies) #30 ceminess on 06 Jun 2003 - 22:23
good thing i use comcast

next thing you know they will be demanding them to give up some information.

well, i guess i will be back to irc again.
#30.1 Mav Phoenix on 06 Jun 2003 - 23:08
All the ISPs have their price. I wouldn't be surprised if Comcast starting doing the same thing.
#30.2 Trek234 on 07 Jun 2003 - 05:00
<<All the ISPs have their price>>

And all ISPs know when to follow a court order. There is no "price" involved.
#30.3 Mav Phoenix on 07 Jun 2003 - 19:28
And you really think they abide by all the "rules"? Give me a break.
(3 replies) #31 supernova_00 on 06 Jun 2003 - 23:20
They will never win in prosecuting a person over this because they have no way in hell of actually proving which person actually used the software to download the music unless they put camera's in our houses.
#31.1 SanGreal on 07 Jun 2003 - 03:58
um. Its easy. Search for a song, download it, and check the ip of who you are getting it from. Then force the ISPs to give you a name behind the ISP. Rinse and repeat.
#31.2 Trek234 on 07 Jun 2003 - 05:00
He is saying the actual PERSON using the IP address may not be identified.
#31.3 DaNIsH on 08 Jun 2003 - 11:50
The owner of the internet account would be the one getting sued right?
Concidering thats how it was tracked down.
Are you viable for everything done on an internet connection that you pay for?
Say a friend came over and downloaded a copyrighted song that he had a legal copy of at home, would this change anything?
#32 Dr.Dross on 06 Jun 2003 - 23:36
supernova yeah that is so right

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#33 DWZ on 07 Jun 2003 - 02:12
Well, at least the laws aren't in Australia yet
(1 reply) #34 Quick Reply on 07 Jun 2003 - 03:12
i hope that someone from verizon tipped off the file swappers that their Identity is going to be revieled to they have time to dispose of the evidence
#34.1 Trek234 on 07 Jun 2003 - 04:49
Oh good idea. Then they can get a federal felony charge of obstruction of justice.
(4 replies) #35 Ev1lg0at on 07 Jun 2003 - 03:48
WOOHOOO!!! go UK! always said London sucks balls but at the moment, i feel quite safe living here downloading F-R-E-E music

awww US people... shame you live under a goverment who literally knows when your wanking and then sues you for violation.
#35.1 ceminess on 07 Jun 2003 - 05:30
talk about steriotypical
#35.2 cidbit on 07 Jun 2003 - 12:32
Acctually, not only streotypical, that was down right hypocritical.....I mean, at least our government doesn't have a camara on just about every building in its major citys. You just enjoy the fact that you don't know how well they are watching.
#35.3 Jon on 07 Jun 2003 - 23:20
rofl, the cameras are there to protect us, we have a sensible government.

You should get yours to try it, maybe tens of thousands of people wouldnt get shot every year.....

I'm so thankful I dont live in the USA.
#35.4 X Statik Process on 08 Jun 2003 - 13:25
What an ignorant statement. I'm glad you don't live here either.
#36 SanGreal on 07 Jun 2003 - 04:02
I dont see why this is a bad thing at all? Surely its no more an invasion of privacy than forcing a thief to remove his mask after being caught.

My $.02
#37 Colonel_DiBugga on 07 Jun 2003 - 16:15
I was wondering if it is ok with the RIAA for us to lend our bought CDs to our friends. If it is, then surely it is also ok to borrow an mp3 from a friend, as long as they own the original copy of the CD it was ripped from, provided they do not use the mp3 or CD at the same time that you do. Surely kazaa is just a big network of friends?
#38 drewster2100 on 07 Jun 2003 - 19:50
at least verizon kept them private as long as possible...
#39 HackedHampster on 08 Jun 2003 - 04:44
I only use kazaa lite, which has no spyware. But i think the RIAA should just lay off. There is no way to stop the transmission of copyrighted materials online. If one way is blocked, another will be found.

Certain file sharing programs may disapear, but another will always come out.
#40 DaNIsH on 08 Jun 2003 - 11:45
Good old scare tactics..
#41 Valkyre on 08 Jun 2003 - 19:54
They don't scare me.
#42 Mrmart on 08 Jun 2003 - 23:22
All those people who say they've never "stolen" copyrighted stuff..all I can say is that its bullsh*t!! You've never borrowed a cassette tape from someone cos it has your favourite song on? You've never recorded a few songs for a friend or family member?, you've never recorded a film off the TV and lent it to someone, or got someone to tape a film for you so u can watch it later..sorry guys, thats just as much copyright theft as downloading from the ifile sharing progs, its just that the p2p progs a good tool for a witchhunt. Copyright theft has been going on since the record button was invented, WAY before the home internet user, and almost everyone in the world has broken some copyright law at some point so all you mr nice people who never do anything wrong..think again, your just as guilty as anyone who uses p2p file sharing apps. Even people who work for the RIAA who are looking for copyright thieves, are probably just as guilty of copyright theft too.

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#43 fdiaz2day on 09 Jun 2003 - 14:41
That outta learn them...

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