main

UK councils dump Windows for Linux

danbalsh   on 08 June 2003 - 22:49 · 16 comments & 544 views

Advertisement (Why?)
Local authorities in Newham and Nottingham are expected to migrate more than 10,000 desktop computers from Windows to Linux

Open source software is set to dramatically increase its foothold in the public sector. Two councils, Newham in London and Nottingham City Council, are examining the feasibility of shifting all their 11,500 staff desktop computers from Windows to Linux with open source desktop applications by the end of the year, according to E-Government Bulletin.

To date, open source has made slow progress onto public sector desktops, with only Penwith District Council in Cornwall and Scottish Central Police moving all their PCs to Star Office desktop software over a year ago.

An expected second wave of pioneers had so far failed to materialise, but now Newham has commissioned a feasibility study paving the way for the migration of its 5,000 workstations to open source later this year.

News source: ZDNet UK


Bouyant sales

Apple's music store has proven to be a major commercial success, overshadowing the online subscription services offered by the major record labels.

The iTunes store has more than 200,000 songs from artists such as U2, Eminem and Sting for sale at 99 cents (62 pence) each.

The service got off to a flying start, selling a million tracks in its first week.

I didn't realise yesterday's presentation was supposed to be confidential. When I found out, I pulled the details. Honest mistake

CD Baby website

The initial buoyant sales have continued. The leaked notes from the meeting last week show that Apple has sold 3.5 million songs in the six weeks the store has been open.

Worries in the record industry that customers would cherry-pick hits have not come true, with 45% of all songs downloaded as part of a full album.

The store offers an opportunity to sample 30 seconds of a track before you buy. The notes say that people tend to listen to 10 previews for every song they buy.

And most people seem happy to store their credit card details on the iTunes store. Some 90% of sales are one-click downloads, which means a credit card is automatically charged when a track is bought.

Private meeting

About 150 representatives were invited to the meeting with Steve Jobs to discuss making their music available on the iTunes store.

The meeting was supposed to be private, but notes taken by one of the people at the meeting have leaked onto the net.

CD Baby took the notes off its website shortly after posting them. A note on the site says: "Sorry, there used to be more details here. I didn't realise yesterday's presentation was supposed to be confidential.

"When I found out, I pulled the details. Honest mistake."

However, the information has found its way onto other sites.

One deal for all

The notes also provide an insight into how Apple deals with record industry.

It treats everyone the same way, rather than giving preferential treatment to the major labels with the big stars.

The independent music representatives were told they would be offered the same terms as bigger labels and have the same team looking after their tracks.

According to the notes, Mr Jobs said: "We have to be more efficient, though. We're not going to deal with 200 lawyers.

"Everyone is going to get the exact same deal. It's not negotiable. It's take it or leave it."

So far the iTunes service is accessible to fewer than 5% of the world's computer users - those owning an Apple Macintosh and living in the United States.

A Windows version of iTunes is planned for later this year, and an overseas expansion is also on the cards.

Post a comment · Send to friend Comments · There are 16 additional comments
#1 Chicane-UK on 08 Jun 2003 - 22:56
Worth pointing out (as did loaaads of Slashdotters on the same story) that the councils are only evaluating the idea - it hasn't been decided on yet.

Though it certainly would kick ass if they did
#2 Jon on 08 Jun 2003 - 23:34
ROFL

Local councils have SO many in-house coded applications, the migration would be *hell on earth*.
(2 replies) #3 timbo3 on 08 Jun 2003 - 23:46
Linux is nice and all, I use it a lot, but I dont think everyday workers are ready to handle something like that. It takes people WEEKS to learn microsoft word. whatabout the linux programs? with interfaces designed by programmers - there's settings everywhere. Its great for me, but some people get overwhelmed by stuff like that.
#3.1 Dj Open Source on 09 Jun 2003 - 00:17
I agree Linux is still in the growing stages, but in time it should only get better and become more user friend so more consumers can use it. I just installed Mandrake 9.1 recently and I've noticed a huge improvement in ease of use from previous versions that I used(i think 8.1 or something in the 7.x range). Just signs that Linux is heading in the right direction, or KDE is I should say.
#3.2 timbo3 on 09 Jun 2003 - 04:13
Yeah, man I installed mandrake 9.1 yesterday - I just hit next, next... all the way through, and EVERYTHING worked, but it's not that, its the complicated interface and the slow browsers that I'm worried about
(1 reply) #4 LiGhTfast on 09 Jun 2003 - 00:21
i dont think its a good idea tbh you queue in those places for hours already... now there gonna be using linux, the staff are never going to able to use it
#4.1 Rambo2000 on 09 Jun 2003 - 21:26
Don't be silly, once you get used to using it, it's just has easy to use as windows, the only hard part is getting used to it at first but once thats out of the way, things will be normal, but this time they are getting the OS and office programs for next to nothing.
#5 netstarman on 09 Jun 2003 - 00:33
Its hard for people who are still getting used to Windows, then now doing the transition over to Linux its going to frustrate them. Some are barely getting around there home computer less around the computer at work. Thats alot of training for them to use Linux.
(1 reply) #6 Jon on 09 Jun 2003 - 00:46
The operating system hardly matters to the average user. The applications are the part that make the difference.

They just log in, and click the icons they need. Thats pretty much all the OS interaction they have directly.
#6.1 razar on 09 Jun 2003 - 04:18
Your right, most of the uses will have everything preinstalled by network admins anyway. So all they need to learn are the applications. Then call help desk (I forget what its really called) if they need anything fixed. So it will work out just fine, it's the network admins that are going to loose hair working with idiots.
#7 Krome on 09 Jun 2003 - 03:09
My prediction on the time capsule topic has now start to take it's peek...
#8 widgysoft on 09 Jun 2003 - 07:41
well i would'nt want to be working with tech support at those councils.
#9 Lock on 09 Jun 2003 - 08:14
Sorry sir if i could just ask you to be patient, I just have to recompile the kernel then i can bring up your details
#10 Wickedkitten on 09 Jun 2003 - 08:53
i just started using redhat and its a piece of pish to me cos I have no problem learning new operating systems. My fiance's sister accidentally booted into mandrake 8 once and had no problems using it until I told her she was using linux. She's almost entirely non-tech literate as well
#11 devilotX on 09 Jun 2003 - 21:04
I agree, My wife has no real PC experiance or knowledge, she just likes to chat and check her email, She is running a *nix PC and has been for some time, no problems there at all
#12 pctuk on 10 Jun 2003 - 09:14
I think that after the server room, it's in the office that MS has the biggest potential threat from linux. Whereas most home consumers desire sophistocated software for media-rich applications, the office still uses mostly word processing, perhaps a little spreadsheet work and then bespoke applications. Sure, Word and Excel have some nice little features but probably 90% only use the core features that exist in any linux office package. A government department or business with hundreds of machines could save thousands by switching to linux, with little inconvenience to employees. If you can work one word-processing or spreadsheet application, you can work pretty much them all.

Also, most bespoke applications could also quite easily run on Linux. For example I recently visited my doctor's, and noticed that the bespoke application he was using was running on Windows 9x. The application was very simple - a database-type application - yet it did its job. People who use software like this don't care whether the software is particularly brilliant design-wise they just want to get the job done. IMHO I have yet to find an interface in Linux that meets the standards of WinXP, yet for people such as my doctor who probably turn on the machine each day and double click doctorprog.exe and keep that running until they close down - why spend all that money of Windows licenses? Linux is a cheap alternative.

Just for the record, I think Linux has a long way to go for the home desktop, and have removed all versions after a week or two and reverted back to WinXP. However, I think the prospects for Linux in the office are frightening to Microsoft.

Commenting has either been disabled on this article or you are not logged in. Click here to login or register, its free!

Note: Anonymous commenting is disabled in order to keep the quality of responses to a high standard.

Advertisement (Why?)