Windows Messenger 5 Build 5.0.0292 Released
Posted by Tom Warren on 29 June 2003 - 17:01 · 37 comments & 3469 views
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#1 Posted by OPaul on 29 Jun 2003 - 17:15
- Isn't this "Software News" material?
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#1.1 Posted by creamhackered on 29 Jun 2003 - 17:22
- That's for us to decide, not you

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#1.4 Posted by
Mr magoo on 29 Jun 2003 - 20:33
- Its based upon a relative system of pleasure pain. You see, we get amazing amounts of pleasure at your discomfort. As such, his decision to post it on the main page was probably incredibally pleasurable to him; clearly it gave you a large amount of pain.
In retrospect, you should probably thank him for doing this; imagine all the other things you wouldn't have been doing had this exciting (and contraversial) decision of his not arisen.
...its a pretty boring world to live in that you care what category a news post is stuck in. -
#1.5 Posted by OPaul on 29 Jun 2003 - 21:39
- I was just pointing out his error that's all. No need to get all defense. It causes me no pain, just confusion.
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#1.7 Posted by JaggedFlame on 30 Jun 2003 - 01:28
QUOTE I was just pointing out his error that's all.
Like he's stated just about every time you ask this stupid question, it's not an error. He decides. Period. Get over it.-
#1.8 Posted by OPaul on 30 Jun 2003 - 01:57
- I only asked this "stupid" question once and Truman kindly answered it with out all the negative attitude everyone else portrayed.
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#1.9 Posted by outofcoffee on 30 Jun 2003 - 18:48
- ..are we gonna give the guy a break or what?
he didn't mean to be pedantic!
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#2 Posted by madcat05 on 29 Jun 2003 - 17:20
- I wonder if this build will be leaked.
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#2.1 Posted by LonghornXP2006 on 29 Jun 2003 - 17:49
- MSN Messenger 6.0 is better
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#2.2 Posted by epple on 29 Jun 2003 - 18:49
QUOTE (#2.1) MSN Messenger 6.0 is better
sure, if you like bloated ****.
4.7 ownz~
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#3 Posted by Groovedude on 29 Jun 2003 - 17:45
- leak in the pipe hehe
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#4 Posted by nero1765 on 29 Jun 2003 - 17:50
- Who's going to be the fist to think this is MSN Messenger?
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#5 Posted by theBangtheWordthePower on 29 Jun 2003 - 18:00
- I was a beta tester for an earlier version, dont bother downloading unless you want to seriusly downgrade. this is for corporate use ONLY and as suck has no fun features like msn 6!!
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#6 Posted by Barisko on 29 Jun 2003 - 18:34
- just a question... i know that msn messenger is NOT the same as windows messenger... but WHY?
what is the point of making an msn AND a windows messenger?
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#7 Posted by KO on 29 Jun 2003 - 18:34
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#7.1 Posted by Unforgiven on 29 Jun 2003 - 19:08
- OMG
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#8 Posted by Sawyer12 on 29 Jun 2003 - 18:34
- 8.9 MB, How bloated is that. the 4.7 Messanger was a lot less than that.
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#9 Posted by Electronic Punk on 29 Jun 2003 - 18:46
- Link doesn't work here... and all I see on betaplace is build 250

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#9.1 Posted by FuhrerDarqueSyde on 30 Jun 2003 - 01:55
- If you're not a Greenwich RTC Beta tester you'll probably only see 0250(i.e. Windows Messenger 5 Beta testers see 0250)
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#10 Posted by ShoeHornOPlenty on 29 Jun 2003 - 18:53
- Why arent Windows Messenger 5.0 beta testers seeing this new build for download on Betaplace??
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#11 Posted by netizen on 29 Jun 2003 - 18:54
- I fail to see why this has become so buggy and bloated when there appear to be so few changes? Unless it's the whole RTC Server integration, they seem to mucked the whole thing up. There are much better corporate solutions.
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#12 Posted by Electronic Punk on 29 Jun 2003 - 19:14
QUOTE RTC server (codename Greenwich) the latest addition to the Office system has reached Release Candidate status and made available to beta testers. RTC Beta Team also released Windows Messenger 5.0.0292, WM5 beta testers are currently testing WM 5.0.0250 which is incompatible with the previous beta of RTC.
Arg, I am testing Messenger now RTC, so I get to test an older version ... :s
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#13 Posted by tangoman444 on 29 Jun 2003 - 20:51
- When's the final?
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#14 Posted by Hills420 on 29 Jun 2003 - 20:58
- What is the difference between windows mesenger and msn messenger?
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#14.1 Posted by dismuter on 29 Jun 2003 - 22:12
- Damn, isn't the answer in the dictionnary or the Bible by now?
MSN Messenger is for the consumers, it's meant to appeal to the general public (new emoticons, games, nice UI, stupid ads...)
Windows Messenger is now aimed at professionals and has support for digital ink (tablet PC stuff), as well as other things I have no awareness of. It's meant to be less bloated so as not to distract from work.
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#15 Posted by IntelliMoo on 29 Jun 2003 - 21:15
- So is this still crap or what??
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#15.1 Posted by LonghornXP2006 on 29 Jun 2003 - 21:29
- yes.. this is still crap.
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#16 Posted by avifear on 30 Jun 2003 - 01:53
- Thanks for the news. Just finished downloading it from WinBeta, hehe.

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#17 Posted by bangbang023 on 30 Jun 2003 - 03:04
- ughh I wanna be a good official tester but download 8mb on dialup is such a pain.
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#18 Posted by Quick Reply on 30 Jun 2003 - 04:14
- im a wm5 tester, but not grenwich
it's ridiculous that the two bugs that i submitted are still active when they release a new build, a new build which isn't even availible to regular wm5 testers
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#19 Posted by lj300 on 01 Jul 2003 - 03:13
- windows messenger rocks, it uses up much less resources
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A new build of Windows Messenger 5 has been released to Betaplace for Greenwich RTC (Real-Time Communications) beta testers.
Along with this build Microsoft released the Release Candidate for their re-branded "Microsoft Office Real-Time Communications Server 2003".
The release notes state known issues for this current build such as:
The installer is 8.4 Megabytes in size.
"Per-user CALs bring Exchange licensing in line with practice and the rest of Microsoft's products. It is what the market wants," said Mark Levitt, vice president for collaborative computing at research company IDC, in Framingham, Mass.
Per-user licensing "makes total sense," said Peter Pawlak, a lead analyst with independent research firm Directions on Microsoft, in Kirkland, Wash.
"It is a very important thing to make sure companies are getting plain license compliance. I think there was quite a bit of violation. Now once you get a user license for a particular user it does not matter how they get their mail," Pawlak said.
Another new licensing option for Exchange Server 2003 is the $50,000 External Connector license which allows access to the Exchange Server by an unlimited number of nonemployees, Stern said.
Besides adding licensing options, Exchange Server 2003 also allows companies to reduce the number of Exchange servers and save some money. Scalability and remote connectivity have been improved so more mailboxes can be hosted on a single server and remote locations no longer need their own servers, the analysts said.
Also, Microsoft's Mobile Information Server (MIS) has been rolled into Exchange Server 2003. It was previously sold as an add-on to Exchange 2000 Server. MIS allows users to access Exchange via a cell phone, or Pocket PC handheld computer.
For the user of an Exchange-based mailbox, probably the most noticeable enhancement will be the revamped Outlook Web Access client. Accessing e-mail via the Web is almost the same as accessing it from a desktop Outlook client, the analysts said.
Microsoft has finished work on the code of Exchange Server 2003 and the product is on track to be released to volume licensing customers in the third quarter, while retail availability is planned for the fourth quarter, Stern said. Microsoft is planning to announce release to manufacturing (RTM) of Exchange 2003 on Monday, the company said.
"This is the culmination of three years of planning, designing, building and testing," Stern said. "We had the most stringent criteria to date to ensure a great experience for the IT pro all the way to the end user who is accessing Exchange."
Microsoft, of Redmond, Washington, is keen on getting Exchange 5.5 users to upgrade. A host of upgrade tools are included with Exchange Server 2003 to help customers move up, Stern said. Microsoft estimates that between 40 percent and 60 percent of its Exchange customers still runs Exchange 5.5 on the Windows NT 4.0 platform.
Support for Exchange 5.5 will be available through the end of the year; after that a customer will have to buy extended support if needed, Stern said.
Exchange Server 2003 runs on Windows 2000 Server or Windows Server 2003, so customers running NT 4.0 also have to upgrade their operating environment when moving to a newer e-mail server. Some of the features of Exchange Server 2003, such as eight-node clustering and volume shadow copy services, are not supported when used with Windows 2000.
It makes sense for Exchange 5.5 users to upgrade soon after Exchange Server 2003 comes out, IDC's Levitt said.
"It is a no-brainer to do that within six to nine months. Now is the time that Exchange 5.5 is beginning to show its age and it will eventually no longer be supported," he said.
Exchange 2000 Server was released in October 2000. Around 130 million client licenses have been sold so far, Stern said. Exchange competes with products including Lotus Notes from IBM.