Kazaa traffic falls due to RIAA announcement
Posted by Michael Stanclift on 01 July 2003 - 17:46 · 25 comments & 2942 views
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#1 Posted by Quick Reply on 01 Jul 2003 - 17:50
- People are just moving to better networks like thedonkeynetwork

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#1.1 Posted by nacs on 01 Jul 2003 - 17:59
QUOTE But traffic bounced back within 24 hours.
No not really.
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#1.2 Posted by SHoTTa35 on 01 Jul 2003 - 18:06
- haha, ... not moving nowhere... Kazaa is just another napster and everyone got off then later picked it up again with somewhere else when the threat calms down. That's how kazaa got so big cuz after the napster shut down everyone didn't know wha to do so they chilled but then later moved back after the need came back for more music again
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#2 Posted by Mr. Black on 01 Jul 2003 - 18:03
- Is this regarding the announcement that they will be pursuing anyone who offers large volumes of Music for download?
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#2.1 Posted by Quick Reply on 01 Jul 2003 - 18:07
QUOTE following last Wednesday's announcement by the RIAA
I believe so
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#3 Posted by DsnBehind on 01 Jul 2003 - 18:10
QUOTE It hurts artists, songwriters and everyone else who brings music to the public...
Translation: Our CEO needs a payraise and an extra bonus.
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#4 Posted by grafXguru on 01 Jul 2003 - 18:19
- So let me get this straight... will the RIAA have any legal punch anywhere but the US? Can they target international users with lawsuits? How would that work?
I hope they end up getting in some heated legal battles over this and the rights of international users online.
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#5 Posted by rocks1985 on 01 Jul 2003 - 18:29
- Lets say someone was file sharing the "Fizzy Fuzzy Big and Buzzy" CD recorded by The Refreshments. Would that be considered illegal? The CD was released over six years ago, and the band (The Refreshments) does not exist any longer.
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#5.1 Posted by ike on 01 Jul 2003 - 18:39
- i could probably record myself singing "mary had a little lamb" and it'd be illegal.
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#5.2 Posted by Sawyer12 on 01 Jul 2003 - 18:46
- yeah because the cd will have been copyrighted and the copyright lasts for ages.
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#6 Posted by puredeath on 01 Jul 2003 - 19:20
- kazaa needs to protect the identities of its users. encrypt the damn protocol!
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#6.1 Posted by bluebsh on 01 Jul 2003 - 20:51
- that woudln't do much, since they can still get your host name and ip address by useing a simple netstat command to see who they're recieveing a file from, encrypt all you want, it wont help, you need to use a proxy type system to cover up a host name
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#6.2 Posted by idbuythatforadollar on 01 Jul 2003 - 23:24
- yes, but then they couldnt see which files you were transferring / sharing and cant prove you are violating CR law
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#7 Posted by babula on 01 Jul 2003 - 19:52
- It is the BMA, ASCAP and SESACs of the world that are making the money, not the artists.
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#8 Posted by Shad0wcat on 01 Jul 2003 - 19:54
- RIAA = Ratty, Idiotic, Arrogant, Assholes
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#9 Posted by KevinRGood on 01 Jul 2003 - 20:19
- No wonder I have problems downloading files
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#10 Posted by zivan56 on 01 Jul 2003 - 21:43
- IP spoofing would protect you

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#11 Posted by CoLdFuSi0n on 01 Jul 2003 - 23:33
- Amy Weiss needs to get laid, and to stfu
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#12 Posted by Bookworm on 02 Jul 2003 - 01:25
- Giving money and power to governments is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke
This quote sums up the RIAA.
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#13 Posted by J0ely on 02 Jul 2003 - 02:36
- EFF have started a campaign against the RIAA's campaign. Let the music play!
"Today, more U.S. citizens use file-sharing software than voted for President Bush," said EFF Senior Staff Attorney Fred von Lohmann. "Congress needs to spend less time listening to record industry lobbyists and more time listening to the more than 60 million Americans who use file-sharing software today."
we have rights
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#14 Posted by hardgiant on 02 Jul 2003 - 08:35
- Ip spoofing was an idea I read about in the paper today.
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#15 Posted by cub-x on 02 Jul 2003 - 11:20
QUOTE It hurts artists, songwriters and everyone else who brings music to the public
yeah they forget to tell that their wallets hurt the most of all..
Picture this:
- enormous videoclips with alot of flashing gold
- expensive copy-protections which fail every time
- lawsuits against businesses and people
where do they pay it from?? ofcourse! the artists income... bunch o thiefs
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"The numbers have been consistent-to-normal fluctuation," said Richard Chernela, a spokesman for Kazaa parent Sharman Networks. Grokster saw downloads increase Thursday between 5 percent and 10 percent, said company president Wayne Rosso. Recording industry officials said Friday they don't expect their campaign to produce change overnight.
"This is a long-term effort," said RIAA spokeswoman Amy Weiss. "We are committed to communicating the message that offering copyrighted music online is illegal. It hurts artists, songwriters and everyone else who brings music to the public, and we will hold those who engage in this activity accountable."
"The evidence that we have summarized does not exclude the possibility of substantial noninfringing uses of the Aimster system, but the evidence is sufficient ... to shift the burden of production to Aimster to demonstrate that its service has substantial noninfringing uses," Posner wrote for the three-judge panel that heard the appeal.
Aimster would do better if it could prove that users traded music that was not copyrighted, or used the service to access copies of music they already own, he wrote.
Aimster founder Johnny Deep said that the ruling would make it easier for him to prove that his service had substantial legitimate uses when a full trial takes place. The courts so far have only ruled on the question of whether Aimster should be shut down during the trial.
"I'm shut down, fine, whatever," Deep said. "I want to get to trial. They can't drag this on forever."
A recording-industry trade group said the ruling would help its case against Grokster and Morpheus, which is currently on appeal, as well as its planned lawsuits against individuals who trade copyrighted songs online.
"A peer-to-peer service is not off the hook simply because it claims there may be legitimate users of its network," said Cary Sherman, president of the Recording Industry Association of America. "When these types of services exist primarily as a vehicle for copyright infringement, they have an obligation to try and reduce the illegal activity occurring on their networks."
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