I just got a mail from MSN Groups informing me that the calendar feature will be removed for non-subscribers. Much like the limitation of the inbox storage when MSN Hotmail became a member service, non subscribers will still be able to view a calendar but not edit it. The mail is below:
This message is to inform you that the calendar feature of MSN Groups will no longer be available as a free service beginning August 7, 2003.

To provide better service and usability, MSN Groups will begin using a subscription-based MSN Calendar in place of the current one. We think your members will find the new Calendar much easier to understand and navigate. Non-subscribers will still be able to view the calendar and appointments, but only MSN subscribers will have the opportunity to add and change Calendar events.

To take advantage of all the great features of MSN 8 and to have complete access to the updated MSN Groups Calendar, you must sign up for MSN 8 at http://join.msn.com?pgmarket=en-us.

Sincerely,
The MSN Groups Team
News source: In-House

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Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by mr_da3m0n on 16 Jul 2003 - 11:19
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To provide better service and usability, MSN Groups will begin using a subscription-based MSN Calendar in place of the current one.


In order to suck more money from you, MSN Groups will restrict a feature to people who pay to give you the illusion that you don't have to pay.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by Quick Reply on 16 Jul 2003 - 12:12
eh neobond, you might want to check the neowin group calander before this is embedded into the calendar forever
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by startechstudios on 16 Jul 2003 - 12:28
why does everything have to be free?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by Rockett15 on 16 Jul 2003 - 12:44
See, the calendar feature in msn groups is much like that in Outlook: we can't have people not splashing out money on Micro$oft Office now can we?
(11 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by Nodiaque on 16 Jul 2003 - 13:17
hmmm... this news is quite very old...
Quote this comment #5.1 Posted by Neobond on 16 Jul 2003 - 13:57
hmmm... your comment is quite retarded...
Quote this comment #5.2 Posted by Mr. Black on 16 Jul 2003 - 13:59
He was just saying it's old news...lay off Neobond.
Quote this comment #5.3 Posted by Neobond on 16 Jul 2003 - 14:52
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So something that doesnt come into effect for 3 weeks is old? I think he saw my original post when Microsoft announced it in April, this however is as it reads. An announcement released today. so if anyone is being a retard here its Nodiaque's original post that is against our ruleset.

Seeing as you are confused at this I decided to explain in detail.

FYI because you brought this further to my attention the poster has now been warned so you can see your post wasn't in vain.

Thanks.
Quote this comment #5.4 Posted by mr_da3m0n on 16 Jul 2003 - 15:14
You have a point, but there's no need in calling him a retard, that's kinda harsh...

Just stating my opinion.
Quote this comment #5.5 Posted by Nickbee on 16 Jul 2003 - 15:38
Neobond need to calm down a lil, IMHO
Quote this comment #5.6 Posted by shockz on 16 Jul 2003 - 16:22
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You have a point, but there's no need in calling him a retard, that's kinda harsh...

Just stating my opinion.
I'm suprised he's not calling you a retard.

Its their site.. and I agree with him. If somebody acts a fool then he should get whats comming for him.
Quote this comment #5.7 Posted by mr_da3m0n on 16 Jul 2003 - 18:28
Well, raptorized.com is my website and I don't call my users retards...

If I do, it's only jokingly... I mean, we're still human beings right? I'm not saying I disagree with his point, I'm just not too fond of the way he expressed it, that's all.
Quote this comment #5.8 Posted by Neobond on 16 Jul 2003 - 18:33
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Well, raptorized.com is my website and I don't call my users retards...

If I do, it's only jokingly... I mean, we're still human beings right? I'm not saying I disagree with his point, I'm just not too fond of the way he expressed it, that's all.

well maybe thats the difference between you and me, I recognise sarcasm when I see it.
Quote this comment #5.9 Posted by Nodiaque on 18 Jul 2003 - 16:24
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hmmm... your comment is quite retarded...

hmmm... and this is not against the rules? sorry but it's in the same category of spam so your not better then me.
Quote this comment #5.10 Posted by Nodiaque on 18 Jul 2003 - 16:33
ya, but I received like 20 emails by hotmail from m$ stating that for about 6 months, since february or march, I don't really recall which one so this is a really old news and I don't see why you are saying that in pm:
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If you had read the article throughout you would see and understand that this announcement was made today


It's a shame that I didn't save those junk email from m$ since I don't really care about keeping them, but it seems that I will start to do it.
Quote this comment #5.11 Posted by mr_da3m0n on 18 Jul 2003 - 19:05
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well maybe thats the difference between you and me, I recognise sarcasm when I see it.

Maybe the difference between you and me is that i'm not being anal about it.


SEE! That was sarcasm!

But still offensive. That was my point. Look, I have nothing against you Neobond
I just think that was not really nice. You could just have PM-ed him about it or replied something among the lines of "That annoucement was made today, read the article carefully, it only makes sense to talk about it."

But then again, who am I to say this... it's your website after all, you decide how you manage stuffs, I was merely stating my opinion
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by TheDeputy on 16 Jul 2003 - 13:39
Well someone's gotta make money, although I highly doubt they are going to make HUGE profits from charging for this calendar. Like really!
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by cesardrgn on 16 Jul 2003 - 14:53
I don't use that feature anyways...
Quote this comment #7.1 Posted by TheDeputy on 16 Jul 2003 - 16:31
Good point how many people use that anyway? With programs such as outlook who really needs this?
Quote this comment #7.2 Posted by Nodiaque on 19 Jul 2003 - 04:28
I use it because it deliver the alert on my email, msn, sms to my cellular, catched by outlook and my server can use them
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by Mr. Black on 16 Jul 2003 - 17:06
I swear if they keep this up there will be no features left for someone who can't afford their "Premium" Service. It's Bullsh1t - they make enough money as it is. They can support what little free services they have left.

FUK YOU MICROSOFT!
Quote this comment #8.1 Posted by JaggedFlame on 16 Jul 2003 - 17:41
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they make enough money as it is.


No, they don't, genius. In fact, had you bothered to take two minutes to research, you might have found out that they're losing a lot of money on MSN and Hotmail. $97 million, as a matter of fact.

Swear at them all you want. It just makes you look even stupider.
Quote this comment #8.2 Posted by ddbweb on 16 Jul 2003 - 20:57
"stupider" eh?
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