Chinese V-Dragon chip now on sale
Posted by malebolgia on 30 July 2003 - 00:39 · 22 comments & 1310 views
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#1 Posted by blackice912 on 30 Jul 2003 - 00:46
- So, what can I do with it exactly? Nothing?
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#1.1 Posted by Neobond on 30 Jul 2003 - 10:35
- Did you think this was an American site with only American technology news? If you did I'm sorry I burst your little bubble. Neowin is actually a Euro site hosted in America. (thats why we occasionally post UK and Asia related news as well as American)
Me and Redmak live in Holland and our 3rd Admin lives in England, as do many of our mods who also live in Asia as well as America.
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#2 Posted by kainashi on 30 Jul 2003 - 01:04
- the chinese are chip noobs.
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#3 Posted by IP™ on 30 Jul 2003 - 02:09
- *points up* RACIST COMMENT!
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#4 Posted by lexor on 30 Jul 2003 - 02:32
- oh wow everything is made in china nowadays. even when it's not, it's still made in china. so what does it matter that there is another product made
P.S. the man who thought of the china smily is a genious
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#5 Posted by Gary_Player on 30 Jul 2003 - 03:29
- Alrite, this is horse-****.
First, they claim Microsoft is putting things into windows that will allow them to spy on china and so Microsoft goes and lets them look at the windows code.
Now, simply because they dont want to be so reliant on US processors theyre making their own (even if they sound crappy).
Anyone remember when they couldnt get their 747 off the ground so Nixon lent them Air Force One?
Sounds a hella lot like North Korean tactics if you ask me...
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#6 Posted by Xenobane on 30 Jul 2003 - 03:52
- You guys are a bunch of retards. I had never knew how narrow minded people can be.
Asian had been making chip for as long as I can remember.
"The Chinese are keen to develop their own chip and operating systems to avoid reliance on US technology", sounds like bs to me.
I dont think Intel, or AMD chip is made in US anyway, well, maybe the prototype.
Plus, it's a Hong Kong firm, although Hong Kong had been returned to China already, those Hong Kong peeps are still kinda anti-china. Paul Hales seriously needs to becareful when posting personal comments. -
#6.1 Posted by dismuter on 30 Jul 2003 - 22:33
- It still is US technology, the patents are owned by AMD and Intel, both of which are US companies. Where the processors are made is of no importance, because if AMD and Intel still have full control over where and how they want them done. The chinese are only used as labour, and get or give practically nothing in terms of knowledge on processor-making.
So if Intel, AMD, IBM and Motorola and so on decided to rellocate their plants and not sell their chips in China anymore, China wouldn't be able to do anything about it, because they don't own anything.
Of course this would never happen and there are always agreements and all, but you get the point.
Also, I know that these companies don't all have operations in China.
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#7 Posted by dangman on 30 Jul 2003 - 05:06
- You go xenobane!
I second that!
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#8 Posted by Quick Reply on 30 Jul 2003 - 08:01
- It sounds to me that you americans don't like this chip competing with amd/intel, your not afraid of a little competition are we? The Chinese have every right to do whatever the hell they want, and keep the profits/jobs in their country, If they don't like the Americans dictating what brand chips they have to buy, then so be it, American chip manufacturers will just have to win the consumer fair and square.
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#8.1 Posted by Gary_Player on 30 Jul 2003 - 08:43
- Since they need to worry about competition from a group who A. Couldnt get their own processor to work without outside help and B. Made what looks like a 4 year old processor?
No, not really worried about competition at all. Competition does the market good, brings the prices down and all that. But theres PLENTY of other chip makers out there who have been trying for years to do what AMD did. No fledgling little IBM lapdog is going to come anywhere near that...So says Confucious -
#8.3 Posted by jb10fan on 30 Jul 2003 - 13:47
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#8.4 Posted by Gary_Player on 31 Jul 2003 - 05:58
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Less idiot, More paranoid 
FREAKIN OUT MAN!!! 
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#9 Posted by corrosive23 on 30 Jul 2003 - 09:12
- this chip only runs at like 133Mhz. so its nothing in the scheme of things. And for the records amd makes their chips in dresden germany.
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#10 Posted by corrosive23 on 30 Jul 2003 - 09:15
- Not to mention its real competition would be IBM's own imbedded power 4 series.
here are the specs from thier page, I mean hell one dimm slot, compact flash onboard....
Specification of V-Dragon CPU
CPU 32-bit RISC processor
Chinese Character Generator 32,000 Simplified & Traditional ChineseCharacter Including Ming, Black and RoundTypeface
Controller High Speed Memory Controller
4-Channel DMA Controller
External Bus Controller
Ethernet Media Access Controller
USB1.1 Full Speed Host Controller
Module 32-Input Universal Interrupt Controller2
Analog Digital Convertor2
General Purpose Input / Output2
Two UARTs
Package Dimensions 35 x 35 x 1.27 (mm)
Ambient Temperature
(with no air flow) 63.1 deg C
Power Management Yes
Specification of Board
BIOS Flash Memory 256KB Flash ROM on board
SO-DIMM Socket
(66 / 100 / 133 DIMM Module) 1 SO-DIMM Slot
External Memory Use PC133 SO-DIMM card
Memory Card Slot CF slot on board
Storage Device PCI base IDE controller and 44pinIDE interface on board
VGA Controller ISA bus slot or PCI slot
V.90 56K Hardware Modem PCI slot or RS-232 port
10 / 100Mbps Fast
Ethernet Transmission PHY and RJ-45 port on board
ADSL Networking PCI slot or RJ-45 port
USB 4 USB ports on board
Audio (Microphone / Audio out) PCI slot
Printer Port PCI slot or ISA slot
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#11 Posted by fekimoki on 30 Jul 2003 - 12:33
- y ppl always commentaring the dark side...
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#12 Posted by kainashi on 30 Jul 2003 - 14:19
- learn how to take a joke, lol.
The Chinese are keen to develop their own chip and operating systems to avoid reliance on US technology, which could have security implications for the People's Republic. Intel will feel the squeeze from the force of the Chinese push to develop its own chips and, since a copy of Windows XP would take the average paddy field worker six months to earn,* Microsoft will have an uphill struggle in the territory too, we feel.
The V-Dragon has a 32-bit RISC core and claims 64-bit read and write data buses for Processor Local Bus (PLB). The Memory Management Unit runs 16KB instruction and 16KB data caches, while the chip's High Speed Memory Controller is capable of supporting up to 4 SDRAM banks and a maximum total of 1GB SDRAM, the company says.
Please note that this Beta Release expires 30 days after product was installed.
System Requirements
--Pentium level CPU
--IE 5.01 SP2
--Windows 98, 98SE
--Windows ME
--Windows 2000 Professional, SP1 and up
--Windows XP Home and Professional Edition, SP1
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