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Tibco sues Apple over trademark

configure   on 30 August 2003 - 02:52 · 10 comments & 939 views

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Tibco Software on Thursday filed a trademark infringement suit against Apple Computer.

Tibco alleges that Apple's Rendezvous networking software, used in Apple products such as the iTunes music service, infringes on Tibco's Rendezvous name. Tibco's Rendezvous product allows software applications to share data across networks, but came out before Apple's similar Rendezvous product, Tibco alleges. Tibco trademarked the Rendezvous name in 1994, the Palo Alto, Calif., company said in a statement.

The suit, filed Thursday in the District Court for the Northern District of California, alleges that Apple infringed on Tibco's trademarks with the intent to harm the company. Tibco said it is seeking unspecified damages for competitive and economic harm caused by Apple.

"Rendezvous has been a Tibco mark for many years and is one of our flagship products," George Ahn, Tibco's chief marketing officer, said in a statement. "For quite some time we have tried to reach an amicable agreement but, given Apple's continual refusal to honor our trademark, we have been forced to take action."

An Apple representative said the company does not comment on pending litigation.

News source: CNET News - Tibco sues Apple over trademark


According to Microsoft spokesman Jim Desler, the company has yet to make any firm decision on how it may alter IE in reaction to the court decision. He said Microsoft is waiting to see what occurs during the ongoing post-trial process, during which a judge will decide what sort of injunction could be imposed on the company, based on the ruling. Desler said Microsoft is preparing to appeal a court injunction, if necessary.

"We still feel there's a chance the judge may recognize Microsoft's claim that Eolas involved itself in inequitable conduct, as we believe Eolas had knowledge of...existing Microsoft technology before submitting its patent application," he said. "This discussion was excluded from the jury trial, and we think it's a powerful argument."

Desler confirmed that Microsoft is considering taking some precautionary steps with IE to bring it into accord with any potential injunction from the courts. At this point, the company is "reaching out to the industry and standards bodies to inform people what our thinking is and to get feedback regarding any possible changes," he said.

Desler said Microsoft is already considering potential workarounds for IE if the company is indeed served with an injunction that it cannot appeal.

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(4 replies) #1 macrosslover on 30 Aug 2003 - 08:49
this is just stupid. how are you going to trademark the name rendezvous, that's just so generic it's unbelieveable. i guess thinking about it's like Windows, or Apple lol, or Sun even, there are some very generic names out there.
#1.1 Palverone on 30 Aug 2003 - 14:29
you have to read the entire article.

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Tibco's Rendezvous product allows software applications to share data across networks, but came out before Apple's similar Rendezvous product, Tibco alleges. Tibco trademarked the Rendezvous name in 1994, the Palo Alto, Calif., company said in a statement.


Apple's Rendezvous product sounds a lot like Tibco's Rendezvous product... I hope Apple gets smacked on this one-they have sued or threatened to sue enough people it's time they need to get it.
#1.2 macrosslover on 30 Aug 2003 - 17:09
i did read that part, and saw that the probem was similar but it's still a generic name to me, i can see their case having merits but it still just seems stupid. you have to wonder if Apple hasn't tried to trademark the name rendezvous have they ever heard of this program? because i know i've never heard of this company let alone their product.
#1.3 JHAres on 30 Aug 2003 - 18:11
Sorry, but "apple" or "windows" are not generic names...??? Geez...
#1.4 the evn show on 30 Aug 2003 - 20:16
Rendezvous from Apple has been around since what...1999 - earlier in some os X betas, that's about 4 or 5 years now. IIRC one of the requirements to maintain a name like rendezvous is to actively defend it, Apple may be able to make a case that the name is not protected any more as Tibco hasn't defended it.

From the looks of it they aren't similar technologies though
Tibco's looks like some sort of a file transfer protocol (like SMB or FTP) - the article isn't too forthcoming with the details. Apple's in an implimentation of ZeroConf which will automatically configure your network and discover services running on it (ie: if you plug your ibook into my lan it will automatically find the shared iTunes playlists and let your stream from them, access the internet through the gateway, and find anyone with iChat running locally so you can chat with them - all you have to do is plug into the network).

Worst case: Apple loses, changes the name of rendezvous and pays these guys a few million for their trouble.
(1 reply) #2 roadwarrior on 30 Aug 2003 - 16:20
Generic names CAN be trademarked within a certain field. That's why you won't find another operating system for PC called Windows, or another comptuter called an Apple.
#2.1 JHAres on 30 Aug 2003 - 18:15
Oooops... you said it before me...
(1 reply) #3 Fipher on 31 Aug 2003 - 13:10
Why hasn't this company come forward earlyer? why does it all-of-a-sudden care that Apple is using the word Rendezvous? Now, if they(Tibco) had come forward to defend it(Rendezvous) alot earlyer, they would not only have a good case, but even I would have to send an angry letter to Apple. But, as it stands, I don't beleve Tibco has any right(yes I mean leagally not just my personaly veiw) to claim the name against Apple so late.


Fipher-Mac User For Life

Last edited by 29367 on 31 Aug 2003 - 13:16
#3.1 macrosslover on 31 Aug 2003 - 20:56
yeah i thought about that to. because if Apple has never heard of this company you know damn well this company heard of Apple's software when it was first announced.

but for all we know, this company could have been in negotations with Apple since the beginning or filed court papers, and the story is just now leaving the RDF and getting reported. who knows.
#4 phen!x on 31 Aug 2003 - 23:14
wow, nice

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