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iTunes for Windows due next month

malebolgia   on 15 September 2003 - 18:28 · 61 comments & 2361 views

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Newsweek reports that Apple expects to release iTunes for Windows next month: "Apple has quietly informed some music insiders that it’s moved up the date for expanding its current Mac-only iTunes for the vast universe of Windows-based PCs to mid-October," as it discusses the recent lawsuits by the record companies against individuals and the future of music: "Technology is creating new markets for music as well. The music giants are banking on an exploding U.S. market for dialing up music on cell phones—in effect, you would use your phone as a portable player. It’s already a multibillion-dollar business in Europe and Japan."

News source: MacNN


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#1 Coolme on 15 Sep 2003 - 18:30
I hope it has the Apple interface for the windows verison...
#2 mAcOdIn on 15 Sep 2003 - 18:31
Yay.

Hopefully now I won't have to pay 15 bucks just to get
Go west - King of Wishful Thinking.
#3 xStainDx on 15 Sep 2003 - 18:35
Goodbye Musicmatch!
(2 replies) #4 jmc777 on 15 Sep 2003 - 18:40

Will iTunes for Windows be freeware?
#4.1 danbalsh on 15 Sep 2003 - 18:43
Yeah it will
#4.2 Justin Hancock on 16 Sep 2003 - 01:14
I don't recall Apple stating anything about the pricing of iTMS for Windows.
#5 Harsesis on 15 Sep 2003 - 18:42
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm full iPod support ?
#6 yudi_lks on 15 Sep 2003 - 18:48
Wow.. What a good news...
(3 replies) #7 yudi_lks on 15 Sep 2003 - 18:49
Hopefully it is not crappy like Quicktime.. Please.. Please..
#7.1 Harsesis on 15 Sep 2003 - 18:50
Pwwweaaasseeeee
#7.2 g33kb0y on 15 Sep 2003 - 19:27
Ditto.
#7.3 Danrarbc641 on 15 Sep 2003 - 21:44
If it's anything like Quicktime I say we storm Apple headquarters with pitchforks.
#8 leo154 on 15 Sep 2003 - 18:59
oh my buddah! thats wicked!
#9 KeR on 15 Sep 2003 - 19:03
I can't wait I hate Musicmatch crap or software.........
(3 replies) #10 b1kshad0w on 15 Sep 2003 - 19:05
http://www.boycott-riaa.com/

Most of us are boycotting the music industry. I do think Itunes is a step in the right direction though. I still think $1 is too much though. I forgot the exact figures, but Itunes makes 50 cents on the sale and I believe the artist gets like 2 cents.
One more thing I have to wonder, they use the AAC/MP4 formats, but what program burns them? I know if I bought them my minidisc player's software doesn't use such files. Are they planning on using mp3? I would check into some reviews on the net.
I want the new A Perfect Circle album, but I guess I'll have to wait till the riaa get their head out of the a%$.
#10.1 aaron901 on 15 Sep 2003 - 19:11
last time i checked, Apple gets like 12% or so.. definitely not 50%.
#10.2 Bling3k12 on 15 Sep 2003 - 19:44
Most likely AAC, and iTunes will burn CD's also, if that's what you were asking. Don't think they'll be compatible with your MiniDisc player. I hated my MiniDisc so much I sold it for half it's worth, I just wanted to get rid of it. Slow downloads to it, 60 or so songs, bleh... i'll take my iPod with 2059 songs anyday.
#10.3 dp123 on 15 Sep 2003 - 20:23
Yes, Apple only gets 30 cents to the dollar, but this is revenue... They are experiencing the bulk of the cost and could possibly be taking in less than the artist or losing money at the early stages.

There is nothing new or unfair about Apple's policies. Recording artists have usually gotten 2 to 5 points (cents on the dollar) after all is said and done -- no matter what the medium.

Last edited by 9953 on 15 Sep 2003 - 20:40
(7 replies) #11 Savagearth on 15 Sep 2003 - 19:14
When 4 Linux
#11.1 Bling3k12 on 15 Sep 2003 - 19:41
Probably never, but that's what Wine is for
#11.2 divertom15 on 15 Sep 2003 - 19:53
yep good ol' wine
#11.3 timbo3 on 15 Sep 2003 - 20:50
You'd think it would be easy to port it too, since OSX is based on BSD and all. only they have the source code.
#11.4 dp123 on 15 Sep 2003 - 21:32
Let's see: QuickTime is an extremely low-level API in OS X... It is also growing very multi-threaded... The design of this threading is very specific to the OS X kernel.

This would not be simple.

There is also the issue of proprietary codecs being used... After all, what would be the point of porting QT if you couldn't connect to it and use it in other apps.

GPL is good for somethings, but it will also lock out the possibility of many good things as well.
#11.5 antareus on 16 Sep 2003 - 01:09
QUOTE (#11.4)
Let's see: QuickTime is an extremely low-level API in OS X... It is also growing very multi-threaded... The design of this threading is very specific to the OS X kernel.

As a senior undegrad CS student I call bull****.

Extremely low-level? Do you even know what you're saying? Developers can use Quicktime in their apps easily. That hardly qualifies as low-level.

Nor does anything about Quicktime imply a threading architecture. It is a set of codecs designed to compress and uncompress video. I don't see how that is at all threaded in nature.
#11.6 dp123 on 16 Sep 2003 - 17:03
Since when does ease of use determine how low-level an API is? Threads can be implemented relatively easily as well in apps--are they NOT low-level?

Doesn't sound like you know much about QT. QT is much more than simply codecs and is in fact becoming more and more threaded so that it performs seemlessly and instantly throughout the OS, apps, etc...
#11.7 antareus on 16 Sep 2003 - 19:47
So tell me how its becoming more and more threaded. I'd like to hear about that.
#12 Groovedude on 15 Sep 2003 - 19:19
hehe *yay* should be fun to play with for a bit. looking forward to it.. same there is no OS X for Normal Pc'S lol
(1 reply) #13 extreme_madness on 15 Sep 2003 - 19:28
I hope the music files are of good quality, I'm not paying for a 128Kbps quality-shaved sounding music track
#13.1 Bling3k12 on 15 Sep 2003 - 19:39
It's most likely a 128kbps AAC file... and they sound pretty good... I've bought 18 of them I don't think they'd re-encode all those tracks for the Windows version only.

And I can't wait for it... finally I can use it on my PC when at work... I got so used to it, I can't use anything but it for organizing my music.
#14 Hummer on 15 Sep 2003 - 19:40
hehe i can't wait
#15 phen!x on 15 Sep 2003 - 19:57
Bye bye musicmatch
(5 replies) #16 vettimdorr on 15 Sep 2003 - 20:15
God, I hope Apple can pull this off, but I have a *bad* feeling about it based on what I know about it's current alpha status internally. Then again, amazing things can happen at the last moment with stuff...
#16.1 wtmcgee on 15 Sep 2003 - 20:24
right on.
they really have one chance to hit a home run here, if they release a buggy version of iTunes, the media and consumers may write off the iTMS as a failure. they need to make sure all the bugs are hammered out, and this puppy will really get everyone's attention. if it's as good as iTunes 4, windows users will be in heaven.
#16.2 Mav Phoenix on 15 Sep 2003 - 20:42
As people have said, I just hope it isn't as horrible as QT for Windows.
#16.3 aStRaLgOd on 15 Sep 2003 - 20:45
/me thinks of iTunes on his PC
/me laughs evilly and enjoys
#16.4 net-cruizer on 15 Sep 2003 - 20:51
Yeah no doubt. Sometimes I wonder what the hell Apple was thinkin when they made that Quicktime for Windows.
It's got to be the worst player by far.
Quicktime files are great, it's just that the player is just pure crap.
#16.5 Zerosignull on 15 Sep 2003 - 21:51
to be far to apple the situation on the mac is the same with windows media player. again you ahve a good codec but the player sux majour balls
(1 reply) #17 Zaph47 on 15 Sep 2003 - 20:52
Will it support iPod use?
#17.1 dp123 on 15 Sep 2003 - 21:33
Yes.
#18 timbo3 on 15 Sep 2003 - 20:52
If they are AAC, can I re-encode to mp3 for my car and my walkman, or do I have to burn a disc, and rip that and re-burn it again with mp3s
(3 replies) #19 ~~NeYo~~ on 15 Sep 2003 - 20:59
I wonder if iTunes will still be based upon Quicktime core, and if it will require Quicktime player 2 be installed, etc etc... especially as everyone ses Quicktime for Windows is so crap (i can't remember how crap it was ... it can't be no worse than WMP for OS X )
#19.1 dp123 on 15 Sep 2003 - 21:34
Umm, they're up to QT 6 on the PC as well. And, yes, it will require QT. And, yes, it will be updated again along with the installation of iTunes.
#19.2 Danrarbc641 on 15 Sep 2003 - 21:48
QUOTE
And, yes, it will require QT. And, yes, it will be updated again along with the installation of iTunes.

That's not encouraging
#19.3 Zerosignull on 15 Sep 2003 - 21:53
itunesd on the mac uses quicktime to acutally play the sound etc. Quicktime is a API as much as a player
#20 bogd on 15 Sep 2003 - 21:05
Awesome. iTunes is such a cool MP3 player. It's one of the most used programs on my iBook, and I can't wait to have it for my PC. I guess they have been working on the Windows version since they came up with the idea for the iTMS, so I hope this is not a rushed product.

The stand alone Quicktime is a bit shotty, and I don't mind the internet plug in, but it is a great format. Also QT for Mac rocks, but I don't know why Apple won't work on a quality version for Win.
(3 replies) #21 Squibbles on 15 Sep 2003 - 21:07
Have you guys tried out Media Center 9?
Yes, it costs money, but it is by far the best iPod Synchronizer/Music Manager.
The interface is exactly like iTunes, and upload goes at about 10 MB/Sec through FireWire.
It also supports Ratings and # Played. Smartlists allow real-time updating of playlists.
Great Stuff! Check out the 30 Day Trial Version!

Btw, make sure you download the latest Beta. It's much better than the other versions.
#21.1 praseodymium on 15 Sep 2003 - 22:10
I can't think of using anything other then MediaCenter to work with my iPod. I switched from EphPod shortly after the iPod was supported in MediaCenter and have never turned back. Hopefully AAC will be supported by MediaCenter once Apple release iTunes for Windows. That's about the only thing missing.
#21.2 bogd on 15 Sep 2003 - 23:34
Media Center is pretty nifty
#21.3 Galley_SimRacer on 16 Sep 2003 - 06:14
I have seen reports that you can easily add AAC support to Media Center 9. Just visit the forums.
(2 replies) #22 hobsgrg on 15 Sep 2003 - 21:37
nice one, when will they add uk support though so brits can buy tunes too.
#22.1 Chicane-UK on 15 Sep 2003 - 21:48
I wondered this too.. I am willing to shovel money into their pockets.. all they gotta do is start selling to UK customers!
#22.2 danbalsh on 15 Sep 2003 - 21:56
I'm hoping they activated iTMS for Europe tommorow at the ParisExpo, it would be a great setting to do so.
#23 Nautica on 15 Sep 2003 - 22:16
bout time eh
#24 Apollo on 15 Sep 2003 - 22:48
wicked
#25 harryleung on 16 Sep 2003 - 03:45
YAY!!!
i can't wait for that ^^
#26 aaron901 on 16 Sep 2003 - 07:38
hope Apple won't screw this up. about time to show PC users how neat iTunes is.
#27 Gary_Player on 16 Sep 2003 - 09:10
Good, WMP is getting on my GD nerves
(2 replies) #28 aleni on 16 Sep 2003 - 12:32
does itunes have something like wow effect just like in wmp? if not, then ill stick with wmp.
#28.1 dp123 on 16 Sep 2003 - 17:05
WOW effects suck, and I never want them on the Mac or in iTunes. WOW effects might bump up that really quite crappy song to something sounding half decent, but it's effects from track to track are unpredictable and 60% of songs sound WORSE.
#28.2 Bling3k12 on 16 Sep 2003 - 19:42
WOW Effects make me go, "WOW! This sounds like ****!" *turns it off* "Phew!"
#29 newsgeek on 21 Sep 2003 - 23:56
Nice! Can't wait!

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