Apple pulls 10.2.8 update

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A day after it was released, Apple quietly pulled its Mac OS X v10.2.8 update from circulation Tuesday afternoon, both from its Web site and through the Software Update system preferences pane. Some Mac users complained that their Ethernet networking connectivity was deactivated following the software update's installation. The problem seems mainly isolated to certain Power Mac G4 models (MacCentral observed the problem directly on a Power Mac G4/500MHz configuration, for example). MacCentral received a statement from Apple late this afternoon confirming the news.

"We have temporarily removed the Mac OS X v10.2.8 software update while we resolve an issue affecting Ethernet networking on small number of Power Mac G4 desktop systems. We anticipate that the issue will be resolved soon," said the statement in its entirety. Further details about when a new update would be posted were unavailable as MacCentral posted this article, and Apple stopped short of offering a specific remedy to correct the issue on Power Mac G4s already stricken by this problem.

News source: MacCentral

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(1 reply) #1 superfula on 24 Sep 2003 - 03:23

Doh! You'd think they would have indentified this problem BEFORE they released the update. Ah well, it happens.

#1.1 roadwarrior on 24 Sep 2003 - 10:31

From discussions in some Mac newsgroups, it seems to be a VERY limited problem, maybe even limited to one particular model or even a particular production run of that model. It could simply be a flaky ethernet controller chip on these machines. FWIW, my G3 PowerBook is running just fine with 10.2.8

#2 Mav Phoenix on 24 Sep 2003 - 03:33

See it can happen to anyone, not just MS.

#3 Justin Hancock on 24 Sep 2003 - 03:38

That's one of the first times I've seen Apple pull an OS update after releasing it. They always thoroughly test it

(2 replies) #4 Yvo on 24 Sep 2003 - 03:43

oh wow... considering Apple develops the freaking system you would think they know what they are doing. Microsoft can always use the there are thousands of different pc configurations excuse.

#4.1 superfula on 24 Sep 2003 - 05:24

Considering the part in question is the ethernet "card", it's something Apple doesn't develop. It's a third party piece of hardware, just like the harddrives, video cards, sound "card", etc. No different than what M$ has to do. It's just on a different scale.

#4.2 g33kb0y on 24 Sep 2003 - 13:19

I wasn't going to comment in this thread until I saw your comment, superfula.

While it is true that the hardware they use is considered third party as it's not made by Apple, they select which hardware to use and which hardware to support in the Operating System. They have a limited number of cards of which their systems fully support.

I'm afraid, it's all quite different from what Microsoft or any other *nix distro must do. Apple has the luxury of building the OS around the hardware they choose. Sure, there are drivers you can download from third party manufacturers, but the driver database of a MacOS is much more limited when compared to a *nix/Windows system. The more you add, the more than can go wrong.

#5 xStainDx on 24 Sep 2003 - 04:28

Here comes 10.2.8.1

#6 Astral on 24 Sep 2003 - 05:39

Install went painlessly on my machine. One thing I do notice, however, is my mouse acceleration speed during the boot process; goes WAY too fast to use. Thankfully, though, this is back to normal within in the OS itself.

(5 replies) #7 kairon on 24 Sep 2003 - 10:13

Oh shut up you MS fanboys, anyone can make mistakes. Apple just makes less!

#7.1 kingius on 24 Sep 2003 - 11:08

Thats because there were only ten apple macs sold ever, worldwide

#7.2 Justin Hancock on 24 Sep 2003 - 14:43

I feel sorry for you

#7.3 lexor on 24 Sep 2003 - 15:50

yeah kairon I feel sorry for you too

#7.4 kairon on 24 Sep 2003 - 19:46

well im sure Justin was talking about kingius since he owns a G5

I feel sorry for you lexor

#7.5 lexor on 24 Sep 2003 - 21:48

kingius owns a G5?

no Justin owns one!

man you look old... could that be why your point gets carried away

(1 reply) #8 Xe|oN on 24 Sep 2003 - 10:30

Reminds me when they stuffed up Mac OS 7.5.4

Apple just skipped it and went straight to 7.5.5

#8.1 dp123 on 24 Sep 2003 - 16:40

Jesus Christ, what was that... like 1993? I remember when... Windows 3.1 just plain sucked!

#9 mr_da3m0n on 24 Sep 2003 - 11:30

Actually, the update first made boot time really slow. Until I rebooted my iBook yesterday to find out that it was amazingly fast o.o

My touchpad seems to have more acceleration which is good, I could never quite get it the way I wanted.

However is it me or the meter shows less battery life remaining after the update...?

(2 replies) #10 MadDog on 24 Sep 2003 - 13:10

*GASP* You mean Apple has bug in their OS?! Say it ain't so!!!

Notice the people who slam MS each time an bug is patched are running to Apple's defense. I wonder why?

#10.1 timdorr on 24 Sep 2003 - 14:09

Because at least Apple's bugs don't cause THE INTERNET TO SHUT DOWN

#10.2 Emon on 24 Sep 2003 - 14:25

Apple bugs will never cause the Internet to shut down .. you know why

.. How many ppl use Macs anyway ??

(2 replies) #11 kwyjibo on 24 Sep 2003 - 15:38

Everytime Apple makes a mistake, all the Wintel morons scream, 'AHAHAH! Apple isn't perfect after all!"

Someone is jealous.

#11.1 lexor on 24 Sep 2003 - 15:51

righ back at ya buddy

#11.2 JaggedFlame on 24 Sep 2003 - 21:08

Who's screaming? Use some friggin perspective.

(2 replies) #12 Cara on 24 Sep 2003 - 15:40

To all the MS Fanboys and Anti-Mac People chiming in here...

'People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.'

#12.1 g33kb0y on 24 Sep 2003 - 16:27

Very good quote.
It's also highly applicable to all Mac Zealots and Anti-MS/*NIX folks. In that regard, it's applicable to all humans.

#12.2 Wickedkitten on 24 Sep 2003 - 18:28

Amen, no point in singling people out when there is enough zealotry on both sides of the argument

(3 replies) #13 kairon on 24 Sep 2003 - 19:49

Is that all you people ever say about Apple?

"How many people use macs?"

You guys need to get off Bill Gates. LOADS of people have macs, ok?They are used for digital video editing in Pixar, and Trent Reznor made his own video or something on a Mac. Macs are used daily by a load of companies.

Seriously, Neowin is a WINDOWS site. Your not gonna see the vast amount of mac users here. There is forums beyond NW!

Cara's quote is very fitting...

'People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.'

#13.1 spingk on 24 Sep 2003 - 21:35

I agree Mac is alot better than windows although i am a Wintel user. (i want to get the powerbook g5 when it comes out thought) But the reason Pixar uses Macs is bc Steve Jobs is the C.E.O. If you want a good macishwindowsish OS go to Knoppix STD(a bootable linux distro)

#13.2 dp123 on 24 Sep 2003 - 22:00

Uh, no, Pixar doesn't use Macs. And when they do it will be because of cost and power. They are currently using Linux and are leasing Intel blade servers. But a transition to Macs will not be because of the other company Steve works with ... He has real and financial obligations to Pixar.

That being said, that doesn't negate the fatc that Macs are heavily used. A recent report estiamted that over 80% of all creative content was produced on Macs.

#13.3 WS togermano on 25 Sep 2003 - 00:44

is that why you told me your sellnig your mac because there was'nt alot of apps for it

(2 replies) #14 Astral on 24 Sep 2003 - 23:13

Sigh, who else saw this thread turning into this?

Why can't people just agree to disagree? ALL, and I do mean ALL OS's have their weaknesses and strengths, and saying an OS is better just because you like it and use it shows just how simple you are. No sense is this agrument anymore, its only been almost 20 years; time to let go.

#14.1 aaron901 on 24 Sep 2003 - 23:32

give it another 20 years.

#14.2 nummi on 26 Sep 2003 - 23:38

HA! 20 years. This will never end.

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