Posted by malebolgia on 09 October 2003 - 19:15 · 42 comments & 5966 views
Apple Computer is expected next week to expand its online music service to Windows-based computers.

The Mac maker has scheduled an event for next Thursday at San Francisco's Moscone West convention hall. "The year's biggest music story is about to get even bigger," Apple said in an invitation to journalists. The company is expected to launch the long-awaited Windows version of the iTunes Music Store at the event, according to Wall Street brokerage Needham. Apple earlier said it would release the Windows service sometime before the end of the year.

Although Apple popularized the pay-per-song store idea when it launched the Macintosh version of the service in April, the market is quickly becoming crowded. Musicmatch has launched a similar service and is expected to partner with direct PC giant Dell. Roxio announced its Napster 2.0 service on Thursday, with PC seller Gateway among its partners. Others, such as Yahoo and Amazon.com, are seen as likely players, while more PC makers, including Hewlett-Packard, are expected to partner with one service or another.

News source: C|Net News.com


He likened Microsoft's Securing the Perimeter plan to installing a fence around a compound, or a gated community for homeowners. Stepped-up security measures can't eliminate break-ins, but they can reduce or thwart attempts by robbers--or, in the case of software, hackers--he explained.

"You need to have multiple levels of security in a corporation, multiple levels of defense. It's like a gated community. You need additional levels of security, doors locked and alarms turned on, and additional defenses, countermeasures such as putting up a fence, to be protected," said Muglia. "It doesn't always work, but it's additional protection," said Muglia.

Sources speculate that Microsoft is working with top firewall vendors and antivirus ISVs to allow them to hook into the Microsoft Update and Software Update Services -- and tap into .Net -- to coordinate an industrywide response to an attack across the internet.

Muglia would not comment on speculation about a possible .Net-based shield, and denied speculation that the company is poised to acquire a major firewall vendor.

In July, Microsoft moved into beta testing its more enterprise-oriented Internet Security & Acceleration (ISA) Server 2004 upgrade, code-named Stingray, a Windows server firewall solution. "Not to my knowledge," Muglia said when asked about a possible buy in the firewall space.

However, even as the company will evolve its ISA platform, Microsoft will need partnerships with ISVs and solution providers for Securing the Perimeter for heterogeneous networks. "We think every customer needs a firewall. But we're not going to do a Linux firewall."

Microsoft's forthcoming management stack is expected to help matters. He said the availability of SMS 2003 in November will help enterprises deploy security patches in a more efficient way while the Windows Update service for consumers and SUS upgrade will help both midsize companies and enterprises automate their infrastructure security.

"A year from now you'll see additional countermeasures in place, as well as better firewalls," said Muglia. " We'll have SMS 2003 out there so there's a better tool for deploying software and the next release of SUS for the Windows server for companies that don't require SMS. "

In addition, Microsoft plans to ship management packs for its forthcoming Microsoft Operations Manager (MOM) 2004 next summer. "The next generation of management packs for MOM 2004 will have a broad understanding of security events, as will the next management pack for the Windows server," Muglia said.

Observers said Securing the Perimeter is a step in the right direction -- if executed well.

"Microsoft appears to be working to improve patching on several fronts and will be working to create new and improved perimeter defenses," said Michael Cherry, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft, a newsletter. "Both are reasonable and good moves, if they can accomplish them in a timely manner, and provide perimeter defenses that people can reasonably install and configure."

Securing the Perimeter is just one of a number of security initiatives under way at Microsoft and across various divisions in the company.

Sources in the analyst community say they expect Microsoft will announce significant improvements to the Internet Connection Firewall in Windows XP and add behavior-blocking capability from the technology it acquired from Pelican early in 2003.

One systems integrator who asked not to be named said Microsoft is busy reducing the attack surface aspect of Windows, IE and DirectX components, and is "hardening" the defensive aspects of .Net technologies. But the Windows configuration plans and enhanced SUS are key parts of the countermeasures Microsoft plans, he said.

This week at Momentum, the company's annual partner confab in New Orleans, Microsoft is expected to rally partners to its security cause. The company is poised to detail an updated security solution accelerator for its forthcoming Systems Management Server 2003 and a new security solution accelerator for SUS, Muglia said.

"These are handbooks for the VAR channel," said Muglia, noting that the deployment guides help channel partners lock up customer infrastructures. "The channel is very important because it supports so many small and midsize businesses, and enterprises are doing more and more outsourcing."

Later this month, at its Professional Developer's Conference, Microsoft is expected to announce the availability of the first software development kit for Microsoft's Next Generation Secure Computing Base, formerly code-named Palladium.

The software, to be embedded in the Longhorn version of Windows due in 2005-06, will exploit security advances in Intel's next generation 32-bit and 64-bit processors.

Security executives confirmed for CRN recently that Microsoft is working on a series of enterprise-oriented security products/services but would not discuss details.

Possible products in the lineup include intrusion-detection, firewall and antivirus products, according to information available on Microsoft's website.

Sources predict Microsoft will debut intrusion-detection technology and possibly antivirus technology into Windows following its acquisition of Romanian antivirus vendor GeCAD, which closed 3 September.

However, no decision is final, said Amy Carrolle, director of product management for Microsoft's Security Business Unit. She did note, however, that a subscription-based service is likely.

"The deal just closed. We're in the alpha testing phase, and it's too early to speculate, " she said. "Our plan is not make antivirus free but in a model similar to a subscription model."

Observers said it remains unclear how well Microsoft can execute on its ambitious plans, but its security woes are as big a threat to its business as was the antitrust case.

Numerous viruses and worms this summer have exploited flaws in Windows and have infected hundreds of thousands of computers worldwide.

The problems cost businesses millions of dollars in lost productivity and service fees. One report recently issued by five security analysts claimed the government's sole reliance on Windows on the desktop constitutes a threat to national security.

Both Muglia and Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer admit it's a bigger worry than Linux.

"Microsoft has thrown a lot of resources at trying to be more secure," said John Pescatore, a vice president at Gartner. "We've seen progress on Windows Server 2003, but they haven't had a new desktop software product since they got security religion, and security problems on their desktop software is a bigger threat to Microsoft's dominance on the desktop than the antitrust [case] ever was. The lawsuit didn't cause enterprises to try out Mac and Linux desktops -- security problems in Windows have, though."



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Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by akuma-x on 09 Oct 2003 - 19:26
Yay! i just hope that it has shared playlists like the OS X version. So I can listen to all my music off my PC onto my iBook.


Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by Harsesis on 09 Oct 2003 - 19:35
Wanna see some screenshots, hope its like the osx version! Not another Quicktime
(14 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by StrangeTikiGod on 09 Oct 2003 - 19:36
Anyone have any idea if the software will be a free download, or if it's to be purchased? Free is always good, but if it's a high-quality port, and free of the persistent flicker that Quicktime for Windows is notorious for, I'd be willing to pay (within reason, of course...Apple better not try charging $49.95 for it, or else I'll...er...be really ticked off, or something)
Quote this comment #3.1 Posted by darksoul on 09 Oct 2003 - 19:42
pay for the ability to buy songs from them, the same songs that you can buy elsewhere? I doubt they will take that route but then again they charge for OS service packs. They are trying to break into the windows market so charging for the ability to buy seems far fetched
Quote this comment #3.2 Posted by vettimdorr on 09 Oct 2003 - 19:43
No, that would kill their audience. Their busniess model for iTMS calls for everything free up-front, and only requiring payment when the user wants to get the actual music. I doubt they would change that winning formula for the PC version.
Quote this comment #3.3 Posted by tRr on 09 Oct 2003 - 20:09
I guess you must be another one of those folks who think 10.3 is a service pack. If you want to know service packs that would be 10.2.1 to 10.2.8 which of course where all free. And then there is all the iApps, Safari, iTunes etc. that were given away over the year.

If you want to read some of the new features of Panther feel free to go here.
Quote this comment #3.4 Posted by MrCalifornia on 09 Oct 2003 - 22:03
wow, you can press F11 and shrink the windows and color your folders for only $149. What a steal!
Quote this comment #3.5 Posted by macboi on 09 Oct 2003 - 22:04
Riiiight, so do you think Windows XP is a Service Pack for Windows 2000 then? Because you are really looking at the same type of transition. Windows 2000 (NT 5.0) to Windows XP (NT 5.1) is a .1 upgrade, just like Panther (MacOS 10.3) is from Jaguar (MacOS 10.2).
And if we are looking at it like WinXP is a service pack and Panther is a service pack, Microsoft is really ripping PC users a new one. Panther is a complete install of the OS (not an upgrade) for $129.00 (from Apple). The complete install version of WinXP is $299.00 (from Microsoft).
Quote this comment #3.6 Posted by MrCalifornia on 09 Oct 2003 - 22:08
First off WinXP is not an upgrade of NT, the NT chain still goes on with .Net Server 2003, and XP continues on the consumer chain. You can't tell me the difference between Windows Millenium and XP is the same as these 5 new features they are adding to the Mac. I like Macs, but really, they aren't adding much.
Quote this comment #3.7 Posted by tRr on 09 Oct 2003 - 22:51
I don't know about you, but I see a lot more then 5 new features.
Quote this comment #3.8 Posted by Martog on 09 Oct 2003 - 23:25
Hrmmm, well the apple site says over 150 new features and innovations...seems a bit more than just 5 as well...

And yes, XP IS an upgrade over the NT line. WinME was the last 9x kernel based OS from Microsoft, and the first consumer NT based kernel is Windows XP.

Windows NT 3.x
Windows NT 4
Windows 2000 (NT 5)
Windows XP (NT 5.1)
Windows 2003 (NT 5.2)
Windows Codename Longhorn (NT 6)

On the other hand..
Windows 3.x
Windows 95 (4.0)
Windows 98/98SE (4.1)
Windows Millenium Edition (4.9)

If XP was an upgrade from the consumer line, it would be version 5.0, not 5.1. I mean, following all things that would be right anyhow in version numbering. It is in my opinion that WinME should not have had 4.9 version, but like maybe 4.2.5 Thus, XP is an uprade in the NT line, from Windows 2000 which is NT 5. Remember, there are two mainstream editions of XP, Home and Pro (tablet and MCE are more or less extensions of Pro I think, maybe Home...), and Pro is intended to replace Windows 2000 Professional, and Home was intended to replace Windows 98/98SE/ME from the consumer line. But the fact remains is that XP is NT 5.1, and there is no way really around that.

Besides, if 2003 was supposed to continue on the NT line, where is 2003 Pro/Workstation? Hrmmm? Oh wait, it is XP Pro...which is NT. MS wants to finally merge the consumer and workstation line into one, thus I believe Home and Pro editions maybe totally eliminated all together, and just have the client and server editions, which is far less confusing, and is what apple does. There are only two editions of Mac OS X, client and server. From there, server has licensing plans like Windows does. MS seems to be moving the way Apple has and keep just the client and server, which IMO is much simplier and less confusing to people. I remember people buying Windows 2000 because it was stuck in people that the next Windows version would be the highest year in the name, ie Windows 95, to 98, then 2000 came out before WinME did, which got the consumers. =P Then XP comes along and takes out numbering from the consumer/workstation. I just hope consumers are smart enough not to buy Windows 2003 by seeing that it is quite expensive.

Alright, back on the topic of Panther. I think it was fair for Apple to do this. I mean, OS 10.2 was a major update from 10.1, with Quartz Extreme being one of the items. 10.3 adds Fast User Switching, Expose, File Vault, Font Book, updated Finder, faster, changes in the UNIX structure with the inclusion of FreeBSD 5, 64bit application support for on the G5 CPU's, updated Safari, iChat AV (which will not be free to OS 10.2 owners), updated Mail, Previewer is much faster, new development tools called Xcode, iDisk is now also available offline, BlueTooth devices support, etc etc etc. Go to the new features page and take a look for yourself. This is more than a "service pack" this is an OS update. It is somewhat like 98 to 98SE, or even 98SE to WinME...MS charged the $200 or whatever for the full version =/ In a way they ripped off the users for the so called "service pack". MS could be evil and charge for the service packs for NT, 2000, XP, 2003...etc =P The point is Panther is a viable OS update that is more than just a service pack, and does deserve the .1 increment that it has. Besides, back in the day, MS was releasing an updated OS about every year...95, 95a, 95b, 95c, 98, 98SE, and WinME were basically back to back every year...I know 98 was in 1998, 98SE was in 1999, and WinME was in 2000. Then again, MS did a major knock and pulled out XP Home in 2001, what is that? MS seems to be doing somewhat of the same thing, though XP Home was a MAJOR update compared to the other 9X, with the exception of going to 95 to 98, which has actual USB support. But you get the picture though, MS did the same thing, did people gripe? No, then again MS didn't push the 95 revisions as much. They did push the 98SE more or less. But yeah, you get the picture, huh?

Well, I suppose that is my 2 cents.
Quote this comment #3.9 Posted by MrCalifornia on 10 Oct 2003 - 00:35
I guess if you include writing all the basic programs yourself "updates to the operating system" then it is quite a lot. But OS wise I only see like 5 updates. Most of the programs they list I'm running right now on 10.2.8
Quote this comment #3.10 Posted by dp123 on 10 Oct 2003 - 00:41
Then stick with 10.2.8, douchebag.
Quote this comment #3.11 Posted by aaron901 on 10 Oct 2003 - 00:42
nobody is pointing a gun at you and force you to buy it. just stick with jaguar if you want.
Quote this comment #3.12 Posted by Martog on 10 Oct 2003 - 01:39
Alright, I'm looking at X General under new features, which is in general about the OS:

Fast User Switching, Context Sensitive Help Icon, Desktop Picture Selection From iPhoto Library, Journalled File System, Keyboard Shortcut Preferences, Finer LCD Font Antialiasing With “Micro-pixel Positioning”, New Accounts Preference, Scanner Drivers, Heads-up Application Switcher, Higher Quality Text-to-Speech Voice, Refined Aqua Look, Smooth Scrolling, Windows-compatible DVD Burning.

Some of those are new, some are refinements. Still, that's more than 5...

Finder has several things and that is really an essential part of the OS...expose wasn't even listed in general X or file vault or font book, iChat AV is a $30 charge to Jaguar users, so that cannot be counted in what can be run on 10.2.8 for free...

Xcode is something new for Panther...they do not even say what all the UNIX changes were (samba 3 is one I believe).

I noticed from developer builds that Panther is faster at booting and working with applications than Jaguar which is always a big plus.

So I think there are more than just 5 or so improvments to the OS...
Quote this comment #3.13 Posted by MrCalifornia on 10 Oct 2003 - 16:42
I'm not against the update. I just think it's a lot to charge. If it was a little cheaper it would be more justifiable to me. I personally think it's different from the Microsoft situation because Apple is already making money by charging a lot more then anyone else is for the parts of the computer. I understand they have a small market, but I don't think it's going to grow if they try to take in as much profit as possible on everything they do. A little cheaper and they just might expand their market.
Quote this comment #3.14 Posted by Martog on 10 Oct 2003 - 16:56
Well I cannot complain about spending $70 for Panther.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by Xero on 09 Oct 2003 - 19:45
lets just hope its not gay like quicktime is
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by vetbangbang023 on 09 Oct 2003 - 19:49
peopel said in the forums that ir's just the music store and not the app. Don't know how true their info is.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by xStainDx on 09 Oct 2003 - 19:49
Finally!!!!!

/me makes preperations to irraticate musicmatch!!!
(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by nowimnothing on 09 Oct 2003 - 19:54
anyone know if the interface will just be for downloading the files, or if it'll be more comprehensive (the way i think MusicMatch's is) so that you could (if, for some reason, you wanted to) play the files in there and use it as a library as well?
Quote this comment #7.1 Posted by dp123 on 09 Oct 2003 - 21:15
Definitely the full player and jukebox. It would be pretty damn retarded if they were to port iTunes and not include any of its core functionality. Wouldn't it?

Quote this comment #7.2 Posted by nowimnothing on 09 Oct 2003 - 23:20
well, i've never used iTunes, nor paid much attention to it so i wasn't sure what was in it.

However, i was hoping someone would supply something where you could just download the songs without having to go through an interface meant for a whole lot of other things. I just want software or a web interface to download the stuff, i have my own players.

But i'll take what i can get.
Quote this comment #7.3 Posted by dp123 on 10 Oct 2003 - 00:43
Well, this ain't for you. iTunes is the best player, hands down. That is it's primary use. Otherwise, they would have called it iDownloader.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by kainashi on 09 Oct 2003 - 20:02
the music store is used through itunes, so i'd imagine there would be a windows version.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by pmh on 09 Oct 2003 - 20:17
PLEASE apple keep it exactly the same as on OS X!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by blackice912 on 09 Oct 2003 - 20:24
Please give me a reason to replace WMP as my default music player!

iTunes is the best thing since sliced apples. I love my iBook.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #11 Posted by ImOnTheGoodFoot on 09 Oct 2003 - 20:25
boo. ya.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #12 Posted by Panorama on 09 Oct 2003 - 20:41
Oh yeah! Can't wait for this!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #13 Posted by Coolme on 09 Oct 2003 - 21:42
Better be good... (I think it would)
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #14 Posted by Trade Wind on 09 Oct 2003 - 21:48
Microsoft Music is coming soon to a WMP near you!
(6 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #15 Posted by Glen on 09 Oct 2003 - 21:57
I hope Apple has beefed up their server farm for iTunes. Considering the number of Windows users to Mac users, this should increase their traffic (and sales) tremendously.
Quote this comment #15.1 Posted by macboi on 09 Oct 2003 - 22:09
Yeah, because it's not like Apple serves anything that computer users worldwide can download and view now.
Quote this comment #15.2 Posted by Harsesis on 09 Oct 2003 - 22:14
http://a772.g.akamai.net/5/772/51/b1b5ac35140151/1a1a1aaa2198c627970773d80669d84574a8d80d3cb12453c02589f25382f668c9329e0375e81787e85abb28970c7aee1d91f95ebd238cf35bcf38a60d6ce045b22296f76bd443b124/thefightingtemptations_240.mov

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Quote this comment #15.3 Posted by Skyfrog on 10 Oct 2003 - 19:11
That link is throwing the page way out of whack. Any chance you could edit it? I've made a link to it here.
Quote this comment #15.4 Posted by MrCalifornia on 10 Oct 2003 - 22:46
I think the whole point of the link is to show that the video files are hosted on akami.net and not apple.com, so just putting a link behind the word "here" doesn't really get the point across.
Quote this comment #15.5 Posted by dp123 on 10 Oct 2003 - 23:06
And again you prove yourself wrong, MrCali. Akamai caches yes, but caching ain't hosting. Apple has a number of server farms to handle large amounts of streaming and downloading.
Quote this comment #15.6 Posted by MrCalifornia on 11 Oct 2003 - 02:16
everytime i load a movie from that site it says it's loading off of the akamai.net servers.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #16 Posted by Ely on 09 Oct 2003 - 22:05
And Napster is also coming out very soon, So much competition ahhhhh! If you sign up for Napster ahead of time, like right now, you have the right to download 5 free songs too
Quote this comment #16.1 Posted by Skyfrog on 10 Oct 2003 - 19:08
I'm very much looking forward to iTunes, but there's no way I'm touching Napster. I try to stay away from festering corpses as much as possible; besides, Roxio has touched it. Who know's where they've been.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #17 Posted by j2000wall on 10 Oct 2003 - 12:57
I've been waiting for this for ages, I bought an ipod a few months ago and didn't want to use music match so am using Ehpod, which is ok but lacks functionality. Will the new itunes for windows support the ipod like it does in the mac version?
Quote this comment #17.1 Posted by dp123 on 10 Oct 2003 - 16:20
Jeez, where do you people come from? No, iTunes won't be a jukebox and it won't sync with the iPod. Ridiculous!... Of course it will sync with the iPod. The whole reason for creating a Windows iTunes is to offer iTMS and iPod support. Pretty f'in pointless to build a music player and music store for Windows and not let you play the same files on your own product, isn't it?
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