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Microsoft's Raikes Touts Office 2003; Takes Swing at Linux

malebolgia   on 11 October 2003 - 21:16 · 115 comments & 3676 views

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Information worker productivity is at a tipping point, becoming a workspace for innovation, integration and teams, with Microsoft itself making a major transition and working with its partners to make this happen, Jeff Raikes, Microsoft's group vice president on productivity and business solutions, said Friday. Addressing several thousand attendees at the Worldwide Partner Conference, he took a swipe at Linux, open source and StarOffice, saying, "they simply accept the view that what they have is good enough. That view does not foster innovation. Being where we were with Office 1997 is not good enough for us," he said. Microsoft Office 2003 shows the new potential of information worker productivity, where services come together to dramatically enhance what people can do together, said Raikes.

Microsoft will release more products around information worker productivity this year than it has ever released before, with nearly 50,000 Microsoft employees already using Office 2003 internally, Raikes said. Randy Schilling, president of Microsoft partner Quilogy Inc., took the stage to share his experience with Office System so far, saying it has fundamentally changed his business and the way it went to market. Quilogy's customers wanted a simpler solution, and Office System offered them that, he said. The company is already implementing solutions on top of Office System; for example, at Seattle's Children's Hospital it has simplified and reduced the number of applications used by nurses, doctors and staff from 60 to 10, Schilling said.

News source: eWeek


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(13 replies) #1 Goalie_CA on 11 Oct 2003 - 22:08
That's why there were drastic changes between office 2k and office XP.
And common, how many usefull changes have there been since office 97. 99% of people probably can't tell. Maybe it's just made with .NET and "integrates better with NEW Microsoft Windows XX and NEW MS server XXX"

In fact, its monopolies who stop innovation simply because they have no real incentive. Competition is a good thing(tm) and hopefully OO can force MS to do something worthwhile with office.
#1.1 Rambo2000 on 12 Oct 2003 - 00:01
Linux is the key to innovation, thats whats getting Microsoft moving more now, what Microsoft wants to do is be a monopoly in everything so we have little to no choose but to buy from them, that kills innovation, Linux can never really be a monopoly as it's open, but say that Linux gets like 95% of the market, it wont matter, because Linux competes with it's self just like the PC does.

It's Linux that will help create innovation by letting small companies into the market to try there stuff out, all Microsoft wants to do is kill up starters which in the long run kills innovation.
#1.2 SomeDork on 12 Oct 2003 - 00:20
QUOTE (#1.1)
Linux is the key to innovation

No single OS is the key. Ideas are the key, the OS is the enabling mechanism. Innovation can be an idea, an action, a reaction, a process, or an entire software suite. But please, don't be so arrogant as to believe that innovation solely rests in the hands of a single operating system. Innovation is everywhere; it happens long before your hands ever touch the keyboards.

However, on the other slightly less arrogant element of your post, I'd like to ask how a startup, "innovating on Linux" can get off the ground to be killed off by anyone if their software is totally in the public domain?
#1.3 JaggedFlame on 12 Oct 2003 - 03:21
And don't be so naive as to think that just because you derive nothing new from new versions of Office, no one does.

Office is meant for just that: offices. And offices have much to gain with the beefed up integration and SharePoint/Exchange services.

Rambo2000, it figures that you, ignorant of this, would just use it as an excuse to start your anti-MS bull again. Get a clue.
#1.4 werejag on 12 Oct 2003 - 03:55
question jaggedflame what is this clue?

you seem to say this alot with out telling anyone!!!
#1.5 CheeseCow on 12 Oct 2003 - 07:34
I agree with #1, the changes these days are mostly cosmetic, except for the task pane and hi-color icons, Word '97 looks almost the same as the latest version.

For most office workers, they use their word processor to write a couple of letters, perhaps a note or two and a poster once a month. If it was my business and I paid for their software, I wouldn't upgrade their machines with the latest office versions. In fact, I would rather install openoffice.org. As a business owner, I don't care if my emplyees have to wait three more secs for the word processor to load, or if it is ugly. I save a lot of money.

The only reason I can see to get the latest office version, is Visio. That is a most useful application, but is not targetted at the average letter-writing office worker.
#1.6 Zatko55 on 12 Oct 2003 - 15:06
The fact that people get so excited about any office suite is kinda gay. It's a word processing suite... woopedy doo! Most people who aren't computer geeks never want to upgrade these programs anyway. They like to stick with what they got because it works and they are comfortable.
#1.7 Rambo2000 on 12 Oct 2003 - 17:28
Yeah your right SomeDork, what I was meant to say is that Linux in the OS market is the key to create innovation where Microsoft are trying to lock us in and kill up starters, which in the long run helps kill innovation, a lot of innovation doesn't see the light of day because they can't get in the market, Linux to me will let anyone get into the market and the best product wins.

Jagged, the new Office programs are for really advance users, I'm willing to bet that around 90% or 95% of offices places and businesses don't even need the features it as got, something that Open Office is good enough and free, but the problem there, most people don't know about Open Office and are none the wiser and will just buy Office from Microsoft, but over time people catch on and thats when people start shifting to the cheaper product which will force Microsoft to lower there price or to make there product much better.
#1.8 JaggedFlame on 12 Oct 2003 - 17:48
What? No. If people are satisfied with Office 97, why the hell would they just randomly switch to OpenOffice?

They're just not gonna buy any more office suites. Or download them. It's not rocket science, fellas.
#1.9 Rambo2000 on 13 Oct 2003 - 18:25
They would move over to Open Office over time if they have Office 97 and was unwilling to pay up for the new ones, in the end, they want to keep up with the times, Open Office even thought it's free will keep up with the times.

Also, theres one reason why many wont move over just yet, thats because Microsoft wont open up there doc standards, so for companies that have loads of doc files, in the end they find it cheaper to buy Office from Microsoft as they can't read the doc files in Open Office, if the standard was open, a lot more would move, which is why I say the EU should force Microsoft to open up the doc standards to compaction, make it a more level playing field, and like I said before, all Microsoft is trying to do is lock people in so people don't have much of a choice but to keep going to them, we all lose because of that in the long run.
#1.10 SomeDork on 13 Oct 2003 - 21:47
QUOTE (#1.9)
Open Office even thought it's free will keep up with the times.

That's mighty subjective and presumptive of you sir, given that it's had only one major release and one service release ... ever.
#1.11 Rambo2000 on 14 Oct 2003 - 17:26
Not quite, it's just thinking logicaly, because Open Office is open and theres intrest in it, it can never really die, also, the bigger the market gets for Linux, the more development on things like Open Office, in other words, it will keep up with the times.
#1.12 SomeDork on 15 Oct 2003 - 02:03
Historically speaking, that's not always true.
#1.13 Rambo2000 on 15 Oct 2003 - 15:32
Historically speaking, theres only been one other thing I can recall that works in a way like Linux works and thats the PC computer, open, thats the main reason why it keeps up with the times and never dies.

Also, think of it as a business, Microsoft can lock people in with there doc formats, thats not a good thing for big businesses that have loads of doc files as it locks them in and forces them to buy Microsoft even if they don't want too, as well as it locking them in on the Windows platform, Open Office on the other hand can never do that, people will be able to use the same file format in 20 years without a problem on any platforms, Microsoft could easier change file formats simple to force people to upgrade when they don't really need too.

The PC computer succeed for a reason, thats because it's open to all, no one can control it, it never dies and gives up and just like the PC that was a slow starter, Linux is doing the same thing, Linux will succeed for the same reasons.
(1 reply) #2 dougkinzinger on 11 Oct 2003 - 22:10
Office 2003 rocks. Gets better every two years or so.
#2.1 eXplosive on 11 Oct 2003 - 23:28
Yep Yep
(7 replies) #3 slapnuts_ox on 12 Oct 2003 - 00:00
proud user of open office 1.1 here.
#3.1 kal-ky on 12 Oct 2003 - 00:04
Yep here's another one
#3.2 SomeDork on 12 Oct 2003 - 00:07
I'm a proud user of Notepad.
#3.3 FuhrerDarqueSyde on 12 Oct 2003 - 00:14
Proud user of vi and notepad
#3.4 Goalie_CA on 12 Oct 2003 - 01:01
vi? eww. Use vim
Now... to learn latex.
#3.5 MegaManXcalibur on 12 Oct 2003 - 05:18
Proud user of DOS EDIT.
#3.6 RedHook on 12 Oct 2003 - 12:04
Proud user of pencils and paper
#3.7 danlu on 12 Oct 2003 - 21:36
Tried OOo yesterday. I uninstalled after discovering that it inserts blank pages when you use different page styles and page numbering. That makes it unusable to me.
#4 xp1ode on 12 Oct 2003 - 00:09
Office 2k3 does it for me, never used OO so i cant say is better but so far i'm having such an easy and relaxing time with MS Office products that i dont want to install OO. Anyways i think office 2k3 is a good product, lets see how MS does with this one.
(3 replies) #5 Ev1lg0at on 12 Oct 2003 - 00:45
Goalie_CA [QUOTE]how many usefull changes have there been since office 97. 99% of people probably can't tell
what are you on about mate? office 2003 is redicilously easy to use. I use it for school purposes and experiencing such great time with it. It is so easy to use, to edit, to make, to integrate and so on... maybe the only thing you use it is for writing a little note but please check your facts before you write something... yeah maybe Microsofts are a bounch of dick ***** trying to be a huge monopoly, but then again, they did it, give them the credit. Okay so maybe their products are not as secure as others and bugged, but then again, the market is theirs.
#5.1 Quick Reply on 12 Oct 2003 - 00:54
Office 2003 is redicilously easy to use, but Office '97 is just as easy though, that's Goalie_CA's point, not only Office 2003 is user friendly
#5.2 JaggedFlame on 12 Oct 2003 - 03:22
I find Office 2003 much easier to use than Office 97. But hey, it's not as if you guys even use it for much more than typing a paper, right?
#5.3 nowimnothing on 13 Oct 2003 - 16:31
productivity-wise, office 97 and office 2003 aren't even in the same ballpark, imo.
simple things, added in 2000, XP and 2003 have made my life a whole lot easier at doing the common tasks that took alot more time/effort/buttonclicks/whatever (smart tags anyone?).
There are alot of things that 97 didn't have that makes 2003 better. I'd be willing to bet that if you sat down and used 97 for an extended period of time after using 2003, you'd get really annoyed with "well, i know i could just click over here for it in 2003, but i gotta do all this stuff to make it work" type things.
And JaggedFlame was right, alot of office is geared towards productivity in an office which is an area that Office 2003 truly excels at.
(9 replies) #6 MR_Candyman on 12 Oct 2003 - 01:12
*yawn* another time microsoft touts that it's new and innovative...

Grow up MS, you praising yourself is getting really tiring
#6.1 SomeDork on 12 Oct 2003 - 01:39
You're welcome to change the channel, if you don't like the show that's on.
#6.2 MR_Candyman on 12 Oct 2003 - 01:43
already have. Believe it or not I used to deal heavily with microsoft, but they just get annoying with a lot of heir business practices and their crappy marketing.
#6.3 SomeDork on 12 Oct 2003 - 02:21
Now, don't call their marketing crappy -- in fact it's the one thing that many people, other than you of course, admit they do well. Next thing you'll do is complain they (gasp) don't actually deliver.

I mean, car companies have been doing it for years, and they actually have a yearly model. It's ok in that market, because you grew up with it, but not ok for other markets?
#6.4 werejag on 12 Oct 2003 - 04:01
New and Improved better since the last one, since the last one, since the last one, since the last one, since the last one, since the last one, since the last one, since the last one,
#6.5 SomeDork on 12 Oct 2003 - 04:17
Werejag: And your statement means....?
Office has had new and improved ideas and implementations with every version.
#6.6 werejag on 12 Oct 2003 - 05:02
keep telling yourself that they improved enough it to justify the price tag!!!
#6.7 SomeDork on 12 Oct 2003 - 05:15
That's not the point. Whether or not I buy it isn't relevant. If I can justify it for my environment, it still means that there are in fact new features in the new version that do improve upon the last version, and new elements of the product that didn't exist in the old versions.

Who cares if it's justifyable for you or me? Do you go out and buy every single year's model of your car just because they have a new one? No. Why? More than likely, the old one works fine. Software works a bit differently but basically the underlying "I need to justify this purchase" is true for every product everywhere.

Every single time a new version of an existing product comes out there are basically ignorant people trying to imply that the cost of a new product has got to somehow miraculously justify the few features that aren't important to them. Well, if they're not important to you, by all means, don't buy the product; and believe it or not there are people using Office 98 or so who are in fact looking to upgrade now, and are choosing between the features and supportability of the products out there.

And by all means, werejag, contribute something other than pure FUD.
#6.8 markjensen on 13 Oct 2003 - 00:24
You are saying that people upgrade their MS Office suite becuase they want the new features??? To be exact, you stated:
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believe it or not there are people using Office 98 or so who are in fact looking to upgrade now, and are choosing between the features and supportability of the products out there.

I tend to think that most of these people are being gently PUSHED this wy by Microsoft. The so-called "new and improved" versions of office save in "new and improved" formats that generally are not readable by these older "Office 97" versions. (I assume you meant Office 97 in your quote, as there never was an Office 9. For example, I used to run Windows and Office at home, and exchanged files from work and home. When my work kept upgrading, I found that I had to 'special save' my files backwards to be able to open them at home. And if it were someone else's file that I wanted to use, I was out of luck, unless I opened it at work, saved as old version and brought it home.

For this, among other reasons, I switched to Linux, and have been happy. (Not that Linux is everyone's perfect answer, but it works well for me).

If I mis-understood your point, I am sorry for this unneeded reply.

One last point on an EARLIER comment. It was mentioned that "Linux is the key to innovation". While it is true that competition will help improve products across the board, and I personally believe that Linux is an amazing and innovative product. You must also remember to be HUMBLE about Linux in this matter. Linux was born to be a COPY of Minix. The innovation is doing it from scratch, and coding it independant of existing *nixes out there.

I'll get off my soapbox now....
#6.9 SomeDork on 13 Oct 2003 - 02:58
I don't care about office versions, I picked a year out of the air. I think there was a 98 version but maybe only for the mac. So what, really...

You outlined your fix along with your problem, in your example. If you're doing so much WORK work at home, then why not get the same version you have at work, or have them pay for it? That's not too much of a stretch.

Now, you mentioned you switched to Linux, how exactly did that help you in situations where people at work are still using Office? I don't think it helped at all; it only helped your personal interaction between files at home and at the office.

I'm sorry, I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who blame a product for a bad workspace/workplace design. If I were your mgr I would never condone the extra work required to keep everything in sync; I'd just have everyone on the same version -- and if you were working from home I'd damn well pay for your home tools.

But that's neither here nor there on the product. You could and can save files in retro-versions or even plain text. Yes, of course you lose the new elements. Noone forced you to upgrade either. Again, not a reason to blame the vendor.
(4 replies) #7 dougkinzinger on 12 Oct 2003 - 01:38
Dude, it's not called "praising oneself", it's called MARKETING genius......
#7.1 MR_Candyman on 12 Oct 2003 - 01:45
oh sorry, didn't realise there was a difference...one is to try to sell things, one is just to reassure yourself you made a good product....I still say they're praising themselves....
#7.2 SomeDork on 12 Oct 2003 - 02:18
Everyone does that. It's called marketing. Show me a single one-sheet of any product that doesn't do it's own fair share of "Hi, we're cool."
#7.3 MR_Candyman on 12 Oct 2003 - 10:32
I meant it as they try to reassure THEMSELVES they have a good product
#7.4 SomeDork on 12 Oct 2003 - 18:55
You can have that view ... but I don't think that's the real intention of their marketing ...
(8 replies) #8 warr on 12 Oct 2003 - 03:19
since office 2000, there are no dramatic useful changes.
xp can be said on the GUI change, justlike the the windows xp over win2000.

office 03 has more change on the outlook, because of MS' strategy of breaking into the enterprise server market and boost their win03 server sale.
#8.1 SomeDork on 12 Oct 2003 - 04:23
Just because the new stuff isn't useful to you, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, or that the whole product should be faulted for your ignorance.

If you don't need it, by all means noone is forcing you to like it or buy it. But basic ignorance of the features in a new version is not the fault of the vendor.
#8.2 gameguy on 12 Oct 2003 - 04:43
Key new features in Microsoft Excel
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Importing data

Querying data from Web pages Now it's even easier to get refreshable data from the Web into Excel for viewing and analysis. Use the new browser-like interface to visually select tables on Web pages for import into Excel, or copy data from a Web page and create a refreshable query. Web queries included with Excel provide fast, accurate information such as stock quotes for your spreadsheets. You can also create Web queries to Extensible Markup Language (XML) files.

Importing data Getting data where you need it and when you need it is as easy as choosing an option and finding your data source in the Select Data Source dialog box. If you want to import data from a remote data source, use the Data Connection Wizard to locate and import data from sources as varied as Microsoft SQL Server, Open Database Connectivity (ODBC), and Online Analytical Processing (OLAP) data sources. Microsoft Office data connection (.odc) files are shareable.


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Formulas and functions

ScreenTips for function arguments Type a function in a cell and a convenient screen tip appears showing all of the arguments for the function, along with a link to the Help topic for the function.

Recommended functions in the Function Wizard Type a natural language query, such as "How do I determine the monthly payment for a car loan", and the Function Wizard returns a list of recommended functions you can use to accomplish your task.

Cut-and-paste function reference examples If you've wondered how to translate Help examples into meaningful worksheet data, you'll find the cut-and-paste function examples in Excel Help useful and time saving.

Task-based formula help Real-life examples for real-life numeric problems make powerful additions to the Help you've come to count on.

Watch window Keep track of cells and their formulas on the Watch Window toolbar, even when the cells are out of view. This moveable toolbar tracks cell properties including workbook, worksheet, name, cell, value, and formula.

Expanded AutoSum functionality The practical functionality of AutoSum has expanded to include a drop-down list of the most common functions. For example, you can click Average from the list to calculate the average of a selected range, or connect to the Function Wizard for more options.

Formula evaluator You can see the various parts of a nested formula evaluated in the order the formula is calculated by using a simple dialog box on the Formula Auditing toolbar.

Trace precedent and dependent cells with Formula Auditing Use the Formula Auditing toolbar to graphically display, or trace, the relationships between cells and formulas with blue arrows. You can trace the precedent cells or the dependent cells.

Formula error checking Like a grammar checker, Excel uses certain rules to check for problems in formulas. These rules can help find common mistakes. You can turn these rules on or off individually.


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Worksheet and workbook formatting

Color-coded worksheet tabs Organize your work by adding color to your worksheet tabs.

Control automatic changes with smart tags Buttons that appear automatically on your worksheet can help you with tasks such as automatic correction options, paste options, automatic fill options, insert options, and formula error checking. With a click of a button you can choose from options related to your task without leaving the worksheet or the cells you're working on.

Unmerge on the toolbar No more searching for a way to unmerge cells. Now unmerge is conveniently located on the Format toolbar.

Retain column widths If you have worksheets with specified column widths, now you can paste information from another worksheet without losing that formatting by clicking the Paste Options button, and then clicking Keep Source Column Widths.

Border drawing A new border drawing tool allows you to outline complex borders with little effort.


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Everyday tasks

Find and replace Finding and replacing data in Excel includes great new options to match formats and search an entire workbook or worksheets.

Links management Changes to the Edit Links dialog box allow you to check the status of the links in your worksheet and make changes. A new workbook option allows you to control whether to update links in your workbook automatically.

Hyperlink navigation Selecting a cell with a hyperlink is improved. Click the hyperlink once to follow it. Click and hold to select the cell.

Sending a range Sending out mid-month reports and summaries just got easier. Select a range on your worksheet, click E-mail on the Standard toolbar, type an introduction to the report, and then send it without spending extra time on the task.

Insert and delete columns while filtering You can insert and delete columns with AutoFilter turned on in Excel. You can even undo the action and preserve any applied filtering.

Speech playback An option to have a computer voice play back data after every cell entry or after a range of cells has been entered makes verifying data entry convenient and practical. You can even choose the voice the computer uses to read back your data. This feature is available in Chinese, Japanese, and English (U.S.) only.

Printing You've asked for the ability to insert graphics and file names in headers and footers, and with Excel you can. You'll also find a handy A4 paper resizing option on the International tab under Tools menu, Options command, which will scale the worksheet you formatted for A4 paper if you have letter-size paper in your printer.

Smart tags By turning on smart tags, you can type a U.S. financial symbol and use Smart Tag Actions to insert a stock quote in your worksheet, find out more about the company you're doing business with, and more. You can also type the name of someone you've recently sent an e-mail message to into a cell, and then use smart tag options to schedule a meeting or add the name to your contacts list, all without leaving your worksheet.

Item properties in PivotTables Online Analytical Processing (OLAP) is a powerful tool for aggregating numeric information, and now you can annotate your data with item properties to make your data warehouse even more valuable.

AutoRepublish Anyone who frequently publishes Excel data to the Web will appreciate additional Web publishing features that allow you to automatically republish items to Web pages whenever you save a workbook with previously published items.

Open and save XML With Excel, you can open and save Extensible Markup Language (XML) files, save entire workbooks in the XML Spreadsheet format, and create queries to XML source data.

Digital Dashboard and Web Parts Use Excel to create Web Parts to include on your company's new Digital Dashboard. For example, you might create an updateable sales chart to highlight your division's contributions to the company's bottom line.

Worksheet protection Excel adds power and flexibility to protect your data from changes to worksheets and cells. You can protect cell values and formulas, and allow the cell to be formatted. You can also ensure that only specific users are allowed to change cells.


New Microsoft Office features
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Everyday tasks

Office task panes The most common tasks in Office are now organized in panes that display in place with your Office document. Continue working while you search for a file using the Search task pane, pick from a gallery of items to paste in the Office Clipboard task pane, and quickly create new documents or open files using the New File task pane that appears when you start an Office program. Other task panes vary in each Office program.

New look Microsoft Office XP has a cleaner, simpler look to its interface. Softer colors also contribute to this updated feel.

More convenient access to Help Get the full power of the Answer Wizard in an unobtrusive package. When you enter a question about an Office program in the Ask a Question box on the menu bar, you can see a list of choices and read a Help topic whether you are running the Office Assistant or not.

Control paste options and automatic changes with smart tags New in-place buttons called "smart tags" let you immediately adjust how information is pasted or how automatic changes occur in your Office programs. For example, when you paste text from Microsoft Word into Microsoft PowerPoint, a button appears next to the text. Click the button to see a list of choices for fine-tuning the formatting of the pasted text. Smart tags and their associated choices vary in each Office program.

Updated Clip Organizer Hundreds of new clips, an easy task pane interface, as well as the same abilities to organize clips and find new digital art on the Web are part of the updated Clip Organizer (formerly Clip Gallery).

Conceptual diagrams Word, Excel, and PowerPoint include a new gallery of conceptual diagrams. Choose from diagrams such as Pyramid for showing the building blocks of a relationship, Radial for showing items in relation to a core element, and more.

Voice commands and dictation In addition to mouse and keyboard methods, you can now select menu, toolbar, and dialog box items by speaking. You can also dictate text. This feature is available in the Simplified Chinese, English (U.S.), and Japanese language versions of Office, and has some special hardware requirements.

Support for handwriting You can use handwriting recognition to enter text into an Office document. You can write by using a handwriting input device — such as a graphics tablet or a tablet-PC — or you can write using your mouse. Your natural handwriting is converted to typed characters. In Word and Microsoft Outlook, you can also choose to leave text in handwritten form.

Improved fidelity of pictures and drawings In Office XP, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Microsoft FrontPage, and Microsoft Publisher are using an improved graphics system (GDI+). With this new graphics system, shapes and WordArt have smoother outlines and adjustable levels of transparency with true blending. Digital pictures stay sharper and clearer when you resize them.

Accessibility Office XP programs support Microsoft Active Accessibility 2.0. This technology makes accessibility aids, such as screen readers or screen enlargers, more effective.

Find printers If your organization uses Microsoft Windows 2000 and the Active Directory directory service, you can search for printers across your network from the Print dialog box in Office XP programs.

Storing documents with Microsoft Exchange Server 2000 You can store Microsoft Office documents on Exchange Server 2000 and access them through the File Open, File New, and File Save dialog boxes, as you would any other Office document.


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Error prevention and recovery

Document recovery and safer shutdown Documents you are working on can be recovered if the Office program encounters an error or stops responding. The documents are displayed in the Document Recovery task pane the next time you open the program.

Office Safe Mode Microsoft Office XP programs can detect and isolate startup problems. You can bypass the problem, run your Office program in safe mode, and keep doing your work.

Office crash reporting tool Diagnostic information about program crashes can be collected and sent to your company's information technology department or to Microsoft, allowing Product Support Services (PSS) experts to correct these problems so they don't interrupt you again.


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Security

Digital signatures You can apply a digital signature to Microsoft Word, Excel, and Microsoft PowerPoint files to confirm that the file has not been altered.

Increased protection against macro viruses Network administrators can remove Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications, the programming language of Microsoft Office, when deploying Office. This can decrease the possibility of viruses spreading via Office documents.


the first part of this is a (shrinked) list of "what's new" from excel 2002 (xp) alone. the last part is from office xp as a whole. there is plenty of new things in the new versions of office. office 2003 has even more that's new. would you like a list of what's new in all of office 2003?

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#8.3 warr on 12 Oct 2003 - 04:48
continue to trust the vendors.

list is long. just hope the list is not contentless.
#8.4 gameguy on 12 Oct 2003 - 04:49
did you read any of it?
#8.5 SomeDork on 12 Oct 2003 - 05:24
Probably the only argument that you'll hear is "But all that stuff sucks"...
#8.6 JaggedFlame on 12 Oct 2003 - 05:24
Oh my gosh, warr, you're completely right. I've been using handwriting in Office for months, but it clearly doesn't exist! I think I'll uninstall it and switch to OpenOffice, which has a better, nonexistent system!
#8.7 nookadum on 12 Oct 2003 - 08:36
And OO still has bad compatibility with old (and NEW) WordPerfect, Lotus, and MS Office-made .docs and .mdb files! Woo!
#8.8 nowimnothing on 13 Oct 2003 - 16:39
QUOTE (#8.6)
Oh my gosh, warr, you're completely right. I've been using handwriting in Office for months, but it clearly doesn't exist! I think I'll uninstall it and switch to OpenOffice, which has a better, nonexistent system!

HAHA
(12 replies) #9 jedimasterk on 12 Oct 2003 - 04:03
Of course Jeff fails to mention that small businesses are looking at Open Office, not only because it is good enough. But because it is FREE. Meaning cost reductions for businesses. Office 2003 will be great, but unfortunately MS will ask alot of money for it. And considering only one copy can be used on one PC, that really raises the costs for companies wanting to cut costs. Sorry Jeff but you got it all wrong!!!. Maybe if MS wouldn't be so paranoid about piracy, and allow an owner of Office 2003 to install one store bought copy on the 3 computers he or she has in their home, we wouldn't be talking about this right now. The computer world is going to hell in a handbaskit really quick. Piracy, Worms, Patents, SCO, etc...... Stop being so damm greedy!!. Pretty soon they will call it computer business, not computer science!!.
#9.1 memodude on 12 Oct 2003 - 04:10
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And don't be so naive as to think that just because you derive nothing new from new versions of Office, no one does.

Office is meant for just that: offices. And offices have much to gain with the beefed up integration and SharePoint/Exchange services.

jedimasterk, it figures that you, ignorant of this, would just use it as an excuse to start your anti-MS bull again. Get a clue.
#9.2 JaggedFlame on 12 Oct 2003 - 04:41
Hey, that looks familiar.

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allow an owner of Office 2003 to install one store bought copy on the 3 computers he or she has in their home


Gee. Maybe that's because Office 2003 isn't meant for home users. Ever think of that? I guess you've never heard of volume licensing, either.
#9.3 CooCooCaChoo on 13 Oct 2003 - 09:05
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Gee. Maybe that's because Office 2003 isn't meant for home users. Ever think of that? I guess you've never heard of volume licensing, either.

Well, I'd love to meet a person who has *THREE* computers in their home. They must have a lot of time on their hands to fiddle aimlessly with three computers all day.

I own an Mac, programme in Java and use Office X. Why on gods green earth would I need another 2? what is the point of owning three?
#9.4 Zatko55 on 13 Oct 2003 - 12:12
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I own an Mac, programme in Java and use Office X.


Thats awesome. I've been debating getting a Mac for Java dev for a while. Money ain't no problem its just that my favorite IDE doesn't support it yet. Oh and by the way, they are in development of java packages that interface with Open/Star Office which could be cool if done right.

I have 2 pcs. One I dual boot with linux and windows and I use it for all my work stuff. The other one is just games and nothing else. My one pc gets pretty bogged down when you have everything installed on it... application server, messaging server, ide's, db2, mysql, tomcat, ect and so forth. So, 2 was the way to go.
#9.5 JaggedFlame on 13 Oct 2003 - 12:43
Well, I know people who have large networks in their home. My neighbor has like 9 computers in his house.

I have three, too, so that my family can use the computer without waiting for whoever's on. The only thing is I don't somehow feel compelled to buy Office 2003 on all of them like he says.
#9.6 CooCooCaChoo on 13 Oct 2003 - 16:52
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Thats awesome. I've been debating getting a Mac for Java dev for a while. Money ain't no problem its just that my favorite IDE doesn't support it yet. Oh and by the way, they are in development of java packages that interface with Open/Star Office which could be cool if done right.

I have 2 pcs. One I dual boot with linux and windows and I use it for all my work stuff. The other one is just games and nothing else. My one pc gets pretty bogged down when you have everything installed on it... application server, messaging server, ide's, db2, mysql, tomcat, ect and so forth. So, 2 was the way to go.

I assume you use Borland JBuilder? IMHO, I put up with its bugginess for long enough. I tried out Eclipse, however, I found it lacking. Netbeans 3.5.1 is rock solid. The only thing I would suggest is making sure you have at the bare minimum 512MB RAM installed.
#9.7 Zatko55 on 13 Oct 2003 - 17:38
I use WebSphere Studio Application Developer 5.1. It's based on eclipse and supports Suse, Redhat and Windows. And it kicks ass too. I just got 5.1 two days ago and I must tell you IBM has done good. Real good. I used to use Jbuilder and Sun's ide's but at the discounts we get at my work from IBM, they aren't really an option anymore.
#9.8 nowimnothing on 13 Oct 2003 - 17:43
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Well, I'd love to meet a person who has *THREE* computers in their home.


I've got 4. I seriously doubt its that uncommon to have 3 or 4 computers in a home these days.
#9.9 SomeDork on 13 Oct 2003 - 18:31
And I've got 6. So what. Only one is usable to me at a time, and only one is the one I'd like to work/play with... I think that was the original point.

Noone has six machines all over their house simply for the convenience of being able to do the exact same thing in another room. Honestly, that's about as stupid as blaming Microsoft for multiple licenses. You paid for multiple computers. Deal with it.

Honestly I don't know what the fascination is with having computers all over the place at home. Unless you're building a poor-mans cluster, you're more than likely just wasting electricity or creating a fire hazard.

Having said all this, I think it's reasonable still to have one machine per person, and that still equates to one license per person.
#9.10 nowimnothing on 13 Oct 2003 - 19:10
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Honestly I don't know what the fascination is with having computers all over the place at home

A computer in both bedrooms (not like my apartment-mate and i couldn't share a computer, but i think we'd all agree that wouldn't work), a server in the closet and a laptop that roams around the apartment. So, when we're both at home, there's usually about 3 of the 4 computers being used at any given time (i am counting the server even though its not interactive, its still being used), and at least the two in the bedroom are kept pretty up-to-date on hardware and software (in other words, they're not just junk machines sitting around).

I don't see why that's a problem. Maybe i'm missing your point or something, sorry.