Thanks xStainDx. As we said in another story earlier, Bill Gates was sat in a chair in a museum in Berlin tonight, and gave a whole series of remarkable sound bites to the assembled audience of CEOs, CTOs, venture capitalists, and one lone hack.
But surely one of his more remarkable claims here at the Etre conference in Old Berlin was the following bite.
Bill said that developing its next generation of Windows operating system software will cost as much as it cost the United States government to put a man on the Moon. That’d be Neil Armstrong.
What’s not remarkable are the amount of dollars – it’s fully forty years in five years time when the USA had that man step down on Planet Green Cheese saying it was one great step for mankind.
News source: The Inquirer - Microsoft Longhorn to cost as much as man on moon project, Gates says
But surely one of his more remarkable claims here at the Etre conference in Old Berlin was the following bite.
Bill said that developing its next generation of Windows operating system software will cost as much as it cost the United States government to put a man on the Moon. That’d be Neil Armstrong.
What’s not remarkable are the amount of dollars – it’s fully forty years in five years time when the USA had that man step down on Planet Green Cheese saying it was one great step for mankind.
News source: The Inquirer - Microsoft Longhorn to cost as much as man on moon project, Gates says
No, there’s been a heap of inflation between then and now, and the dollars in themselves aren’t important – what’s important is that Bill thinks that the two events are somehow congruent.
He admitted to the audience of people at the Etre conference that it would take Microsoft a little longer than it expected to produce the operating system, given that it would have to take advantage of the fantastic hardware developments that were happening.
We checked our notes again. Bill definitely said that the next version of Windows costs as much as the US spent putting a man on the Moon.
Next story. Bill says hardware drives the industry, not software. Oh, and some pictures.
After spending huge ammounts on building NT you don't rebuild from scratch again you take the code you have as a starting point and work from there..
There are elements of the earliest versions of Windows in the very latest versions of Windows.
I bet that bloody CLOCK.AVI file is STILL in the Windows folder on Longhorn. Its been there since at least the Windows NT4 days, and possibly earlier!
Stuff like pre-TTF fonts, etc...
I wonder when they'll get their Apollo I fire...
Well, it'll be fully 100 years in 98 years time since Windows XP was released. Damn! that's a long time. I wonder what the hold up is on that new OS!?
haven't we already known all the CEOs are very good at talking crap in public? esp. that steve jobs, totally unimaginable.
"What cost $1 {billion} in 1965 would cost $5.58 {billion} in 2002"
(fromThe Inflation Calculator)
that'll be 550% increase.
in the end, it'll have drm out the arse and look and act like osx. except osx is here now. and it doesn't have any drm built into the os, not even activation.
what a shame.
But the fact still remains theres alot we don't know about Longhorn. ALOT. So saying its just gonna be OSX 3 years late is a little ignorant.
then enlighten me, mr. wiggles.
the biggest things i have heard people talk about longhorn for was drm (eww), and the ability to send all the things that need to be drawn to the gpu, not the cpu.
oh, and this new interface, yea, that's great. it has a little sidebar.
and the windows can wave around like a flag when you move it.
yea, both of THOSE are important. haha.
and the only thing in osx that windows has is the fast user switching. but even apple one-ups ms on that, as apple does it with a rotating cube.
Isus your post screamed typicaly kiddy-home user. All you care about or notice are changes to the GUI, and anything that may stop your little warez monkey activities.
Ssssh,
It doesn't matter what childish crap you write Isus, Longhorn is going to be a geat OS and a big improvement to NT5 / 5.1 weather you believe it or not.
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that's my point, neither do you.
its just plain ignorant to assume that you know everything that's going to be in it at this point, and that microsoft is going to spend 3 years and billions of dollars to come up with something that already exists. - hey, there's a business strategy!
Go use your pretty and cute "OSX".
oh, and there's also the point that windows keeps pushing the release date back. so you intend to be running windows xp until the year 2006, or even later?
great idea.
by then it might actually be secure after the 39 billionth attack/worm/hole etc.
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but since he mentioned Neil Armstrong... im like "ohh"..........
bill gates is a genius!
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and that has what exactly to do with the features of the filesystems in the two OSs?
beos dont have much hardware support to load either... but i do know xp is bloat, registry, dll hell, M$ slogan "we make hardware go forward by bloating up our OS"
do we reall ynead the "scroll here scroll there" right-click menu on the scroll bar? systrem restore and windows file protection is workarounds that is defining bloat themselves.
Micros~1 better do longhorn good, and please tidy up that clock.avi and the other useless .bmp and random desktop as web page marketing feature.
i had never seen a use for it, until i tried it and it worked beautifully. since then, i've used it a couple times, and its been flawless every time.
WFPs reason is to keep the system files in their original state, a functionality which is actually useful regarding that every **** application wants to overwrite files here and there in system32 with assold ****. But you probably knew this, right?
Of course he didn't. True to the moron style, he ripped on WFP and said it was useless, then actually said "wtf does Windows File Protection DO anyway?"
Also while they are at it they could really organize all the folders better and quit spewing OS crap all over the drive. Look at how OS X does it, its a little cleaner and they don't have to hide folders from you to protect you from yourself.
And uh, #14, they do. If you look at all the hidden folders, there are lots of them with periods in front of them, to signal it should be a hidden file. I mean, most of those things don't have much to do with how OS X operates, but it's there.
I think you read it wrong. He was talking about Windows and the way they hide everything in a complicate series of sub-directories strung all over the disk.
If the start using managed code, maybe they can use .NET to innovate (copy) the idea of a package (.app bundle in OSX speak) to store your .NET application assembly in a special type of directory giving your drag and drop installation support. Couldn't they use those package things they store parts of an OS install in. I cannot remember the name off the top of my head and I don't have windows anymore at home.
Anyway, windows already has support to right click open to browse those package things... All they would have to do is change the model so that this package would have the application icon on it and clicking on it would launch the program stored inside, just like an OS X .app bundle.
MS should rename program files to programs instead. It's shorter and easier to get to via the command line.
Emon, I am in no way trolling against Windows with my last post. I'm just stating my beliefs on the subject. Microsoft is spending way more than they have to to get the same results. Longhorn looks/sounds impressive now, and I'll probably buy it for my PC just to keep current, but I just don't think it'll be that impressive in a matter of two/three years, when it does come out.
(this is sorta rhetorical, i don't really expect an answer
3DWM is a 3D window manager for Linux, I'm not sure if it does much yet, I haven't tried it, but it looks good.
Now an opengl accelerated desktop - just to make things look prettier, as is the case with Mac OS X would still be a good idea - and I belive that is almost certainly in the pipeline for Linux.
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what i dont see is people with counter arguements, all i see is hate
Give me Linux any day....
Doesnt really surprize me now that I think about it. Think of all the people who are gettings 6 figure salaries that are going to be working on this for 5 years...plus all the coke theyre going through
On another note, its still Windows, so you already know what to expect.
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No, fool, the solution is to buy reputed hardware that isn't some no-name brand off the street.
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